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Interview with Adrian Pasdar of "The Lying Game" on ABC
Family 2/28/12
ABC Family’s Q&A Session with Adrian Pasdar – The Lying
Game
Moderator The wedding proposal seemed to happen so quickly. Is Alec
suspicious of Rebecca’s motives, or has he completely fallen in love
with her?
A. Pasdar I think it’s an excellent question. The way these things are
written, we service an ongoing flat line. But before all that happens, I
had … with Chuck Pratt and the writers. One of the things we can always
be assured of is that whenever I think a fellow like Alec makes a move,
it seems to be without motive. Nothing altruistic about his intentions.
I think there is something behind his accepting it so quickly that we
will come to find out in the follow-up to the finale.
Moderator Alec may possibly be responsible for the death of Derek, the
attack on Sutton and then Eduardo’s car accident. Is Alec as evil as we
have been led to believe, or could he be trying to cover up for someone?
A. Pasdar I think it’s always a little more interesting when it’s not
just good or bad; when there is liquidity to the morality. I think Walt
Disney said it best, when he said a show is only as good as the bad guy
is bad. This is a different show so it makes it work perfectly for us.
When it suits the show, he’s reprehensible in his behavior at times. But
I think ultimately we’re going to find out that it’s not all as bad as
you think. There is a great deal of protecting going on. Although, for
who, I can’t say. I’m not at liberty.
Moderator Could you tell us about some of your most interesting fan
interactions?
A. Pasdar I don’t know if I can say some of the most interesting ones,
but some of the most print-worthy ones. People, generally when I run
into them, they know I’m not a bad guy. They generally know I’m playing
one on TV, but they always seem to keep a good distance between myself
and them. Even when we’re coming in for a picture. They’re always
looking over their left shoulder, if they’re hugging me, making sure I’m
not going to strangle them or something.
I think there is a good deal of believability in the nastiness of Alec.
But there is also a vulnerability that we haven’t gotten into yet, but I
can assure it’s there. My relationship with the fans on this one, and
other roles, has always been positive. It’s great. I haven’t had really
weird altercations or anything.
Moderator When you were in high school, what series were you a big fan
of?
A. Pasdar Rockford Files. Gosh, when I was in high school, Rockford
Files—that was probably the The Six Million Dollar Man, and then by
extension, The Bionic Woman—Jamie Summers. Those were the shows that
were big. There were only a couple channels back then, so it’s easy to
recall.
Moderator Alec seems to be at the center of almost all of the show’s
juiciest moments and juicy stories. Is it challenging playing a
character that’s really involved at the center and core of the show like
that?
A. Pasdar No. Challenging? I mean, yes, it’s challenging in the extent
that you have to be consistent with your intention, and with your work,
and stay on top of your game. For shows like this they pay you really to
wait between setups. The acting I do for free. This stuff—the juicier
the better. I just happened to watch two shows. I’ve never seen the show
before because every time I’m working late Monday nights or I’m at the
hotel and they don’t have the ABC Family Channel where we film.
I just saw the show for the first time last night, two of them in a row,
the last two episodes. I got to say, man, the cast I’m working with are
remarkable. To be at the center of anything that the writers write, I
feel an immense comfort because the talent of these actors really
supersedes a lot of the stuff that is on TV. It’s really—I feel very
fortunate to be amongst this caliber of people.
To be in the center of it, I know I’m going to be able to have a really
good round robin with whoever I’m working with. I’m charged about it.
Moderator Speaking of the cast, Charisma Carpenter’s character, Rebecca,
showed us a new side of Alec this season. You two have really great
onscreen chemistry. What has it been like working with her, and how do
you think that’s changed your character on the show?
A. Pasdar It’s a tough question to come up against a character like
Alec. Charisma, she’s got a lot of moxie. She got stones, as my father
would say. It’s fun to work with her because she can—I tend to be
somewhat unpredictable and she can roll with it. She makes me better,
which I think probably is the best thing that I can say about anybody. I
feel confident that when we get done with our scene, it’s going to be
better than it was before we started it. We lifted off the page and
she’s wonderful to work with.
Moderator In your career you played a lot of villain-type characters
from Nathan Petrelli in Heroes to now Alec Rybak in The Lying Game. Do
you feel like you’re being typecast into these roles now, or are you
actively seeking them out to play?
A. Pasdar Oh, no, sir. I’m looking for them. The real fun in theater,
film, or television, I think is playing the bad guy. There is just a lot
of weight put on trying to be that super good looking heartthrob,
leading man. I just don’t find it very rewarding. I think the reward for
me—I’m not saying that those roles aren’t rewarding, but for me, the
reward best comes when you can challenge somebody’s concept of what’s
right and what’s wrong because it shifts for everybody, depending on
what they need. To be the guy that can service that part, that’s
exciting for me. I’m interested in that. I have actively sought them
out, to answer your question.
Moderator Would you ever seek out a hero type role?
A. Pasdar I think in the end of every show I’ve done, there has been an
element of redemption. Nathan Petrelli, I think was a perfect example of
somebody who could be misconstrued as a bad guy. Then in the end you
reveal that he’s doing it to protect some people and ultimately the
world. He sacrifices himself. At the very end of that show, that series,
if you remember, that’s what happens. Yes. I like the idea of sending a
good, positive message, especially to my children. But the sole value of
entertainment, it’s fun to be the bad guy.
Moderator Alec has a great ability to avert questions on the show. He’s
able to get out of having to answer for any of his actions. Would you
consider him to be a chameleon?
A. Pasdar Yes, good question. Chameleon? A guy like him stands out in an
arena. I don’t think he thinks of himself—or when I’m playing him, I
don’t think of not so much blending in as so much—I guess more blending
out is what he tries to do. To remove himself from a situation that
could be compromising by not placing himself in it to begin with, having
other people do the work for him, is probably one of the things he does
best.
Moderator He seems to be the reason that a lot of lies are exposed, or a
lot of lies are told. How do you think that he gets himself involved in
everyone else’s business, why do you think he does that?
A. Pasdar Why, as opposed to how? At the root of what we’re dealing
with, a story that is much bigger in its enormity that’ll be revealed as
to how Alec and everyone else fit into Mayberry, in their little world.
Without—obviously I can’t say too much, but I think it’ll be surprising
to some. Some may see it coming, although nobody has yet. In all the
questions and all the press I’ve done, and all the fan responses, and
the blog time I’ve spent, nobody gets quite what they’re after yet, the
writers.
I can’t finally comment on your question ultimately because it hasn’t
been portrayed. It hasn’t been played out. But, he does find himself—I
think there is a certain joy in the activity of being a part of other
people’s lives to the extent which maybe they don’t want, but need. I
think he sees himself as a medicine man for his tribe. Sometimes the
medicine is a tough pill to swallow, but it does the job.
Moderator You do the suave, sinister role so well. Do you have
inspiration, because you really don’t seem like that’s how you are in
real life? Do you have any particular actors that are inspirations that
help you tap into that?
A. Pasdar It’s funny, as you go on in this business, you end up slowly
carving away at the totem poles that informed you earlier about how
behavior is disseminated, and how it’s interpreted and digested. There
are a lot of great actors and more importantly, I think, a lot of great
individuals at the center of a lot of political storms, whether it’s
environmental, or ecological, or financial, that you can draw from to
create a character like Alec Rybak.
Because you find these guys on Wall Street and on Main Street. You find
these guys in every town. It’s just a degree—if you dress them up in
overalls or you put them in a suit and tie. Very often they can be the
same guy. It’s not to make a blank anonymous statement about who these
character people are I draw from, but they’re out there. They’re not
hard to find. They’re sitting in the restaurant, or on the bus, or in
the bar, or on the boat with you.
Wherever you are, you’ll find somebody with that sensibility. The other
thing is, the great part is, I get to play it out in a scripted format.
I know what the result is going to be with my action before I do it,
which gives me the power to play it as strongly as I do. In real life,
it’s a little more tricky.
Moderator Do you have anything lined up for the hiatus? Or are you just
kicking back with the kids?
A. Pasdar Yes, I’ve got my family lined up. This has been a tough job on
them because I’ve had to commute so much. Then there were two movies
that I did in the interim. I did a pilot for HBO and a movie in New York
as well that the folks from The Lying Game were very wonderful to
accommodate. It’s a feature film that shot in 3D called Run with William
Moseley, the boy from Narnia.
It’s about Parkour, which is a whole, brand new concept to American
audiences. We saw a taste of it in the beginning of Casino Royale. David
Bell and those guys from France came across and did all this stuff for
the beginning of that movie. If you’ll remember what Daniel Craig was
doing, all the jumping and stuff like that. That is what Parkour is, the
very beginning of it.
I’m going to take some time off because the three projects I’ve been
juggling for the last four months—my family now looks at me going, Dad,
we need you. We want you home, buddy. We love you. I’m like, I’m exactly
the same. I’m going to take some time and just be at home until we go
back in May.
Moderator It seems so far Alec has really been able to orchestrate lots
of shady dealings without consequence because of his position of power.
But it seems like things are starting to finally catch up with him. Is
he going to have to face the music soon?
A. Pasdar I think the music that Alec listens to is the string section
that nobody else can hear. I really think he’s got so many dogs in the
hunt right now that we don’t realize. What’s really cool is that they’ve
laid out a lot of clues. One of the best clues that I’ve seen that
nobody’s commented on—like I said earlier in one of the questions, I
haven’t watched a lot of the shows because I haven’t been able to. I’ve
been working or otherwise engaged. But, one of the best clues that
nobody has said anything about was two episodes ago when—do you
remember—the car broke down by the side of the road?
Moderator Yes.
A. Pasdar Okay. Thayer asked Emma to hand him the lug wrench, and she
says, I wouldn’t even know what that is. It’s the thing right there. The
tire iron. You remember that scene? Anyways, it’s kind of interesting.
There are so many clues laid out in this show so beautifully that just
go by quiet and unnoticed about who may be involved in what. I’m just
saying. That picture of me swinging a tire iron, like I said. What I
love about the show is the way that they’ve laid out the clues. To be a
part of it, that’s about as fun as it gets.
Moderator As far as his engagement to Rebecca goes, does he really love
her? Or is this another calculated move in his game?
A. Pasdar I think for a guy in his position it may be a combination of
both. Somebody who’s relied so heavily on Machiavellian tendencies to
remove him, or to extricate himself or his loved ones from situations,
to actually be confronted with somebody who he admires, not only for
their ability to make him feel loved, but to make him feel challenged by
their own ability to be duplicitous. I think they’re a really healthy
combination. I don’t think it’s one or the other. I think it’s both. I
think he really admires/loves her/needs her. Slash.
Moderator Can you tell us a little bit about Alec’s first marriage, and
maybe where Thayer and Mads’ mother is?
A. Pasdar I can. We haven’t really decided exactly, but I can tell you
one of the avenues that we’ve considered. Because you know these things
are retooled, and retooled over and over again, until they’re finally
unloaded. I think one of the great things is that—her name was
Christina, let’s say. She may have been a dancer and wanted to pursue a
life in the theater.
She may or may not have—how much can I tell you? She may or may not have
betrayed Alec’s trust in some fashion. Yet, when confronted with her
actions, he still realized that she was the only one that was ever going
to have his heart. He was prepared to forgive her. She was not prepared
to ask for that forgiveness. Maybe she went away. Perhaps, I’m just
speculating—I’m spit balling here—but maybe she was the one that got
away and Alec vowed that nobody would ever get close again. Nobody would
ever have his heart.
She actually left, and left him with his children, who he obviously
loves. That’s been part of the motivation for why he’s been so
protective of Mads and Thayer from the beginning of the show. He’s
afraid she’s going to try and come back and reclaim—I wouldn’t say
afraid. He’s just protecting them from who he knows she really is.
That’s kind of the back-story.
Moderator Will Alec and Rebecca in the finale actually go through with
the wedding? Or will someone try and stop it?
A. Pasdar I can’t say. Gosh!
Moderator Just thought I’d try.
A. Pasdar All I can say is, yes, to everything.
Moderator Okay.
A. Pasdar I’m sure they’ll try and go through with it. I’m sure somebody
is going to try and stop it. I’m sure that it’s not going to go off as
planned. It’s not going to end like a normal wedding, let’s say.
Moderator When you’re acting, especially with a role like this, are you
drawing upon any personal experiences to try to get the feelings, or
people you know, or you just go with the lines? How do you go about it?
A. Pasdar It’s not science. It’s just you’re up there; you got the words
in your head. You’re looking at the people that are standing opposite.
You’re both wearing makeup and you’re dressed in other people’s clothes.
Once you get all those three things sorted out, the best you can do is
reinterpret what you thought you understood in your head sometimes.
Acting is such a beautiful lying game in its own. I love the title of
the show for many reasons.
But acting with a—I’m wrapped up in right now, has never been more
rewarding. This is just great. It’s not based on people in my personal
life. But, of course, it is at the same time. How could I extricate
anybody? Ultimately, I’m just trying to create something like Nabokov
might have for one of his novels. I’m just trying to make something real
and interesting and to have something that means something. If it’s
lost, it’d be a detriment to that character.
Something has to be at stake, especially in TV. Less so in movies, but
every scene in TV, something has to be at stake for an actor. Otherwise,
it’s boring. I do believe at the end of the day, if you’re boring, you
get punished. I don’t know if that answers your question or not, but
it’s how I feel about it.
Moderator You’re married to one of the Dixie Chicks, Natalie Maines,
correct?
A. Pasdar Yes, sir.
Moderator Is there any chance that they might be having a musical
performance with the Dixie Chicks in future episodes?
A. Pasdar I don’t think that’s likely. But what is interesting is that
when we first started the show, before it aired, Charles Pratt, the
Executive Producer and developer of the show, asked me if Natalie would
be interested in writing a theme song for the show. I was on a highway
out here in Los Angeles and we were headed to the airport or something
and I said it to her. She said, yes, well, yes I would. When does it
have to be in? He said by the end of the day, or something like that.
We missed that opportunity. Not her so much, she doesn’t need it. But I
think the show would have—I love what the theme song is, don’t get me
wrong—her tongue is a gun and all that. That’s great. But Natalie, they
did offer her the opportunity to come up with the theme song for the
show, and I thought that would have been fun. But, no, she’s highly
musical so there is no real telling where she’s going to turn up. But I
don’t think that the Dixie Chicks are going to be doing a performance in
the show.
Moderator Who would you like to see as a guest performer, or a guest
star?
A. Pasdar Musically?
Moderator Either a guest star or musically.
A. Pasdar I’d like to see Tom Waits. You go ahead and write that script.
Who would I like to see? Gosh. Man, the casting directors, they’ve done
such a great job. I’m just thrilled with whoever they bring down the
pike because the actors I’ve had a chance to work with—Tyler, Chris,
these guys are just unbelievable. Every single one of them. Whoever the
casting people bring to us I’m happy with.
Moderator Alec’s approach to parenting is different than Dr. Mercer.
Then there’s Dan, Ethan’s older brother, who’s pretty much a father
figure as well. They have different ways of approaching being a dad. Who
do you think is doing the best job?
A. Pasdar That’s subjective, but I know who’s doing the hardest job. I
can’t tell you the answer to that. But, I also know who’s doing the
worst job and who’s just getting by. But, I can’t tell you who those
people are. You have to infer from what I’m about to say. I think that
there is a good deal of paternal involvement in the lives of these young
folks.
The path that the individual fathers have chosen early on, I think was
decided by mistakes that they made, not successes, which is interesting
in this show. These men are dealing with results from actions that they
made as boys. I think it’ll come out probably by the middle to the end
of the second season. You’ll see who’s a champ and who’s a chump.
Moderator That’s actually very interesting. Do you actually ever draw on
your experience as a father when you’re playing this role?
A. Pasdar I want to give you an interesting answer. I just don’t have
one at the tip of my tongue. It’s hard to—my personal and professional
lives are so separate that I’m sure I do. I just don’t have an example
to give you. I’m trying to give you some good stuff to type up and put
in your thing, but it’s such a—working on a show like this with writers
like this, there is a solid consistency to my day-to-day on The Lying
Game.
But, in real life there is an even better, bigger, consistency that I
deal with, which is the love of my family and my children, and the life
I live with my friends. I just utterly can’t cross-pollinate there. I’m
sure I do. But when asked if I do, I’ll probably say no.
Moderator Do you already know the secret history behind what was done to
Rebecca by Alec and Ted?
A. Pasdar Yes.
Moderator Is there any way that you can give a clue?
A. Pasdar That wouldn’t serve anybody, really, for me to say what I
think that—yes, I can give you a clue. I have to make it really good
though. One you’ll never get. Then it’s not really a clue, is it? Let’s
see. I would watch the show, as a viewer, with an eye toward the
seemingly irreverent details that very often are thrown in an off-hand
manner by actors, as they’re instructed to do and as it’s written.
The clues in The Lying Game are buried, but they’re not buried deep.
They’re buried at the end of scenes. Very often somebody off-camera will
say something, or an actor in a nonchalant way will deliver a line that
seems inconsequential. It seems meaningless. It just seems like a
wrap-up to a conversation. But it’s there and the writers have very
diligently put these clues in every single episode.
It’s amazing actually, because like I said to one of the earlier
interviewers, I just watched a couple of the episodes last night for the
first time and I was stunned at how much information was actually
revealed that nobody probably picked up on because it’s so—the foliage
around it is so green that you don’t see the bare stem of truth that’s
growing behind it. It’s kind of amazing. It’s Shakespearian in a way.
Actually, it’s beyond Shakespearian because Shakespeare always put that
stuff out there blatantly, and then let you back-off and gasp at the
fact that no way he could have told the truth in that moment. This
series has such a collective team of writers that they’ve really let it
go. The secret is already out there. It’s been told three times. I can’t
tell you which episode, but the truth has come out three times in the
last ten episodes about who is responsible for what. That’s all I can
say.
Moderator What is it about Alec that you admire?
A. Pasdar He’s loyal. That’s it. If you’ve got him as a friend, you have
him as a friend.
Moderator I think we’ve seen a lot of that with Ted.
A. Pasdar Yes. There is a lot more that you haven’t—a lot more that you
actually have seen, but haven’t digested, I think. I wish I could say
more, I really do. I’d love to be able to sit and talk with you about
what’s happening. But at the same time I’m trying—I’ve got these velvet
handcuffs on. Yes, there is a lot of loyalty going on.
Moderator Do you have a background in comedy?
A. Pasdar No. I might have a foreground in it.
Moderator You think you might do some comedy sometime in the future?
A. Pasdar Oh, man. I’d love to. I tell you what, we crack up on this
show like it’s nobody’s business. The funniest thing on this show is the
outtakes, because there are moments of me being super serious with all
this, and then all of a sudden I’ll just do a spit take. It’s not
because I’m trying to do something funny, it’s just because the weight
of the ridiculousness that we’re dealing with—basically a soap opera.
It’s funny, but we have really good actors, super high-end people. The
funniness that you’re talking about is something I’ve learned from
just—oh should I say it—decades of doing what I do.
Moderator There are many fans that see you as a villainous heartthrob
from Heroes, and now in Alec in The Lying Game. Who happens to be your
celebrity crush at the moment?
A. Pasdar My celebrity crush would be my wife, darling.
Moderator What kind of acting role would you love to try that would be
opposite of what you’re used to?
A. Pasdar I just did it for a pilot for HBO. Doug Ellin, the creator of
Entourage, he had a new pilot that was working for HBO that was called
40. It was myself, and Michael Imperioli, and Michael Rapaport. A great
show—way out of what I would think most people would think is my kind of
role. It was a lot of fun. We had a good time.
I learned that you got to trust your comfort zone. At a certain point
you got to go with the trust that you know, and the things that you know
are funny, that are serious and dramatic. I’m a grown man. I’m a big
boy. At this point in my life, I know what works for me. What puts the
beef on the table, as it were. Playing something outside of your comfort
zone is fun. I’m not saying play it safe. Comfort zones can be
interesting. Most people never go outside of them.
I guess that’s why it’s interesting to actors. I think some of the best
performances that actors have given are perceived as steps outside of a
comfort zone, but really it’s as close to that person as you can get.
That’s when they win an Academy Award, or something like that. Comfort
zone—it’s an interesting topic, but I don’t have a clear vision of what
it is.
Moderator Has Season 2 been officially picked up?
Moderator Officially, no, they haven’t said anything to us. But it would
be—they haven’t said anything to us at all. But I can’t imagine it not
coming back. Can you? It’s a good show.
Moderator Has there been any mention of when you would return to start
filming again?
A. Pasdar We’ve talked about the end of May, beginning of June. Right
when it starts to hit its hottest months in Texas, we’ll go back. We
were there last year—this is brutal. I think we had 79 or 89 days over a
hundred degrees in a row. We were all saying as we wrapped the last
episode, we were all saying, why don’t we just keep working until it
gets hot and then take those three months off? But the infinite wisdom
of the powers that be, they know far better than us about why. I don’t
know. To answer you, we have not been officially picked up.
Moderator Can you describe the finale in just three words?
A. Pasdar Buckle up.
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* ABOUT ADRIAN PASDAR
Alec Rybak on ABC Family's "The Lying Game"
Adrian Pasdar portrays Alec Rybak, a divorced, single father whose
personal demons leave him emotionally unavailable to his children,
Madeline and Thayer.
Best known for his leading role on NBC's hit show
"Heroes," Pasdar's extensive television credits include "Judging Amy,"
"Desperate Housewives," "Law & Order: Criminal Intent," "Castle" and the
upcoming made-for-television movies "Chasing Leprechauns" and "Garden of
Evil."
He has appeared in several feature films, among them
"Near Dark," "Carlito's Way," "Secondhand Lions" and the independent
film "Home Movie." Pasdar also performed on stage in "On the Waterfront"
and the Obie Award-winning "Aven' U Boys."
Pasdar's many talents are not limited to acting. He
wrote and directed "Cement," the 2000 winner of Houston Worldfest's
Grand Jury Prize for Best Feature Film, and co-wrote and co-directed
"Atlanta," a musical set against the backdrop of the Civil War.
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