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Interview with Lindsay Wagner of "Warehouse 13" on
Syfy
7/20/11.
Lindsay Wagner seemed very sweet and down-to-earth on
the phone, just as I imagined she'd be. She has been around a long
time, and the biggest thing in her career was The Bionic Woman, as well
as many TV movies. Now she has a recurring role on "Warehouse 13".
She does a great job on it, of course. I really enjoyed the interview
with her. As I told her, she was a great role model to myself and many
girls who grew up in the 1970's. She was one of the few strong women on
TV then that were not big-breasted "jiggly" women like the ones on
Charlie's Angels or Wonder Woman. Angie Dickinson of "Police
Woman" and Adrienne Barbeau of "Maude" are some of the few that come to
mind, along with Lindsay Wagner.
Syfy Conference Call
Lindsay Wagner -
Warehouse 13
July 20, 2011
12:00 pm CT
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to
the Warehouse 13 conference call.
During the presentation all participants will be in a listen only mode.
Afterwards we will conduct a question and answer session. At that time
if you have a question, please press the 1 followed by the 4 on your
telephone.
If at any time during the conference you need to reach an operator,
please press star 0. As a reminder this conference is being recorded
Wednesday, July 20, 2011. I would now like to turn the conference over
to Gary Morgenstein. Please go ahead sir.
Gary Morgenstein: Thank you very much. And welcome everyone on Monday,
July 25, Lindsay Wagner returns to Warehouse 13 as Dr. Vanessa Calder.
And I'm delighted to introduce Lindsay and answer all your questions. Hi
Lindsay.
Lindsay Wagner: Hi, hi, hi everybody.
Gary Morgenstein: (Suzy) feel free to start putting the questions
forward.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen if you would like to register
a question, please press the 1 followed by the 4 on your telephone. You
will hear a three tone prompt to acknowledge your request.
If your question has been answered and you would like to withdraw your
registration, please press the 1 followed by the 3. If you're using a
speakerphone please lift your handset before entering your request.
Our first question coming from the line of Pattye Grippo from Pazsaz
Entertainment Network. Please proceed with your question.
Pattye Grippo: Hi. Good morning Lindsay.
Lindsay Wagner: Morning.
Pattye Grippo: Hi. So let me ask you, "What was your most memorable
moment from working on the show?"
Lindsay Wagner: Wow, you know moments can be memorable for various
reasons.
Pattye Grippo: That's true.
Lindsay Wagner: It was freezing. First thing that came to my mind, I
must admit, was working outside very late at night with the snow and the
whole thing. Another moment that stood out, they have a wonderful crew.
Pattye Grippo: Right.
Lindsay Wagner: And the people are just so nice and fun. And you work
really long hours. And it sometimes, of course, in a series gets very
grueling. But the crew and the attitude that they maintained really
makes it helpful for everybody to kind of get through that kind of
grueling...
And our camera man came to work one day, he's Scottish and he came in
full garb. He was in a kilt. And he walked in and I was like, "Excuse
me?" It just looked so out of context with him carrying a kilt and - I
mean a big giant camera on his shoulder, a walk-around camera, rather
than a sword or a bagpipe or something.
And it's just fun. They're just fun. So I don't know that I could
isolate one particular moment.
Pattye Grippo: Okay. Well is there anything that you were surprised to
learn about yourself from doing this show?
Lindsay Wagner: Myself?
Pattye Grippo: Mm-hmm.
Lindsay Wagner: I don't miss the hours; not working as much as I used
to.
Pattye Grippo: I'd say that's a good answer.
Lindsay Wagner: Yes.
Pattye Grippo: Okay well, let me end with this then, "What would you say
is the most important thing that you learned from your time spend on
this show -- not about yourself but in general?"
Lindsay Wagner: Yes, I think it was more of a remembering than an actual
learning.
Pattye Grippo: Okay.
Lindsay Wagner: And it's seeing the group really working on their kind
of being a family. It's interesting; we were very much a family on
Bionic, doing that series.
Pattye Grippo: Right.
Lindsay Wagner: And whenever I did a show, that always kind of carried
over with me, doing the movies or whatever, was kind of trying to set
that tone. And I really feel that on there. And I think that's
important, because community is building community wherever you go is
very important. And I think they do a wonderful job and work very hard
at that on that show.
And it's part of what they do, of course, in the story. The Warehouse
team is kind of develop themselves like a family. And they deal with
those issues in the course of the stories -- they touch on it when they
can. And I think that's wonderful. And I think it's gone over.
So it was really nice to be a part of an atmosphere like that, that was
very reminiscent for me of when I was doing a lot of work -- and
especially doing the series where you're together a long time and have a
chance to develop those kind of deeper relationships.
Pattye Grippo: Okay well, thank you very much for talking with me today.
Lindsay Wagner: Okay thanks. Bye.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question coming from the line of (Katie
Krieger) from scifivision.com. Please proceed with your question.
Katie Krieger: Hi Miss Wagner. Thanks a lot for being with us this
morning.
Lindsay Wagner: Hi.
Katie Krieger: My first question is, and I'm sure a lot of the fans
are interested, do we know this season -- if it's not giving away any
spoilers -- if there's going to be any more - anything more in depth
about the connection between you and Artie?
Lindsay Wagner: Yes, I think it'd be - it's going to be very interesting
for people who are interested in that to watch this episode. And that's
all I can say.
Katie Krieger: All right. Another question; now I read online that
your character of Dr. Calder might actually be doing a little bit of
show hopping over to Alphas for an episode -- if you could talk on that,
if that's true, or if there's any other shows on SyFy you might want to
do that with?
Lindsay Wagner: Okay, so yes, Dr. Calder has gone to visit the Alpha
team. And I don't know that I can say much more about it. It's kind of a
cameo visit, like I did before early on in the Warehouse show.
And I don't know which episode it is though. But I'm sure that they can
fill you in with that. But yes, she went to see the Alphas. And I don't
know of any other shows at the moment that that's going to happen with.
But you never know, Syfy's pretty creative like that.
Katie Krieger: All right. And just one last one, "Has the holistic
lifestyle from Quiet the Mind & Open the Heart, that you're a part of,
crossed over with your acting career at all?
Lindsay Wagner: Actually they're pretty inseparable. The Quiet the Mind
work that I do is very much an outcropping of my own personal growth,
which started even before I began acting.
And the studying that I did and the healing that I went through with
some physical ailment that I had, that I - where I was able to avoid
surgery by working with a couple of people -- one was an MD and one was
a minister who works with not only prayer, but visualization and
meditation.
And the doctor, who helped me physically and emotionally learn to
identify patterns that were in my life or in my thinking - my ways of
thinking that were a part of causing this disruption in the body, which
expresses as illness, how much they are all connected.
And so I actually was able to not go through a surgery that I was
scheduled for by working with these people. And it only took me six
weeks. And I was astounded. I was on a severe fast as well.
And so that began for me when I was 19, a whole lifetime journey of what
all it means, the holistic lifestyle, what it means in reference to the
integration of body, mind and spirit, and how we cannot separate them.
We separate them in our culture so that we can study them, but we've
actually kind of forgotten that they're all kind of one thing.
It's like if you only study a carburetor in your car and you get so
obsessed with the carburetor you forget that it's no good without, you
know, the battery and all the other things that make it work. And so I
think in today's world, in our culture today, we're finally starting to
get back to that understanding.
And so that's been throughout my career and I've used it in many
different ways. I've done movies about it. My very first film,
television movie, doctor - The Incredible Journey of Dr. Meg Laurel was
my first experience with taking an eight-page treatment and turning it
into a full length hour feature - I mean a three-hour feature for -
movie for television. And it was about that very thing.
I wanted to do a story that represented the battle, if you will, between
the allopathic world and the naturopathic world, and how they negate
each other instead of working together, and looking to see what's really
best for the person rather than their belief system and perhaps their
pocket.
And so those things have been integrated for me for a very long time.
And when I pulled back from acting so much, I just continued on because
I had continued to study also throughout the entirety of my career,
different ways of working, and of course my own personal healing
journey.
And in doing that I found things that were very helpful to me, extremely
helpful to me. And things that not a lot of people knew about; some
techniques that are very quick in helping to heal old emotional wounds
and even physical pain.
And so I found myself just being inspired to share it with people and
started doing programs in my house with friends who were interested in
what I was doing. And then that just started going elsewhere and it
became viral. And here I find myself going all over the world now doing
it and holding retreats. And it's just been this interesting
outcropping.
So I don't know if that answers your question, but that's the only way I
can answer it.
Katie Krieger: All right, that's great. Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question coming from the line of Suzanne
Lanoue with TV MegaSite. Please proceed with your question.
Suzanne Lanoue: Hi, nice to speak with you today.
Lindsay Wagner: Hi there.
Suzanne Lanoue: I was wondering, is there anything else you can tell us
about your guest starring role on Warehouse 13 and what it was like to
work with Rene Auberjonois.
Lindsay Wagner: It was really fun to work with him again. He's just
delightful. He's wonderful to work with. He's extremely creative. And of
course so is Saul.
And Rene and I, you know he came and did an episode of The Bionic Woman.
And we just had a blast. It was a very funny one; he played a French
artist/conman. And I had to go undercover as a lady of the night with
him to crack the case. And so it was kind of a fun in funny episode.
But he's so creative and inventive. It's just so fun to watch him work.
And Artie is - I mean Saul is also extremely creative and fun so it was
a wonderful chemistry. And that was really enjoyable.
Suzanne Lanoue: Was there a bit of a triangle there between your
character?
Lindsay Wagner: Now I'm not supposed to talk about the episode.
Suzanne Lanoue: Sorry. I'm...
Lindsay Wagner: It's as frustrating for me as it is for you, because of
my business of course; I'm trained to answer your questions. But...
Suzanne Lanoue: We try.
Lindsay Wagner: I always want to talk about it, but I kind of have to
talk to my mother about it and then give her a gag order, you know?
Suzanne Lanoue: All right. Let me ask you then, were you - did you get
to work with the new guy on the show, um...
Lindsay Wagner: Right I know, yes.
Suzanne Lanoue: I'm blanking on his name but...
((Crosstalk))
Suzanne Lanoue: Ashmore; Aaron Ashmore.
Lindsay Wagner: Yes. They were off solving something else at the time.
Suzanne Lanoue: Okay.
Lindsay Wagner: They kind of (unintelligible) bifurcate it and you've
got two storylines going at the same time and...
Suzanne Lanoue: Oh right, right. He was out of town.
Lindsay Wagner: ...you don't always link up, as far as characters go.
Suzanne Lanoue: Sure, sure. And has Bionic Woman coming out - it came
out on DVD; has that affected your life in any way?
Lindsay Wagner: Well I'm signing a lot of DVD covers, that's for sure.
Suzanne Lanoue: That's good.
Lindsay Wagner: Yes, it's been interesting to watch the resurgence. It's
been fun. When I make public appearances or do autograph shows I've
started seeing much younger people who were not familiar with the show
when they were kids but are becoming familiar with it because of the DVD
release.
And of course the people who were the fans, their children are now - the
moms and dads are now being able to say, "Yes, I finally got to show
them what I've been talking about all these years."
Suzanne Lanoue: That's great.
Lindsay Wagner: So the kids are coming up and saying, "Can I have your
autograph?" It's like, "What do you know about it?" "Well my mom, blah,
blah. She got me the DVDs." So it's kind of fun.
Suzanne Lanoue: That's great that you've got like a whole new generation
exposed to it.
Lindsay Wagner: Yes, right.
Suzanne Lanoue: Cool. Well you inspired a lot of us when we were growing
up back then. So I just wanted to tell you that.
Lindsay Wagner: Thank you. Thank you.
Suzanne Lanoue: Thanks a lot.
Lindsay Wagner: It's nice to hear from you.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question coming from the line of Ian
Cullen from Sci Fi Pulse. Please proceed with your question.
Ian Cullen: Hi Lindsay, how you doing?
Lindsay Wagner: Hi, hi. Good morning - or it's morning for me. I don't
know where you are but.
Ian Cullen: It's 6:00 pm in the evening here in the U.K.
Lindsay Wagner: You're in the U.K.? Wow. This technical world...
Ian Cullen: Yes, I'm in Manchester.
Lindsay Wagner: Okay.
Ian Cullen: How are you? I was just going to ask you about Alphas, but
somebody else has kind of more or less asked.
One thing I would like to know, if you could divulge without giving it
away, is you know, "How different is Dr. Calder's interaction on Alphas
versus her interactions on Warehouse 13? Because Alphas to me, from what
I've heard, it seems to be, you know have a little bit more of a serious
tone to it."
Lindsay Wagner: Right, it does.
((Crosstalk))
Lindsay Wagner: Well I think thus far the part that I've played on
Warehouse, the fun kind of banter that dominates the dialogue on
Warehouse really kind of only takes place between Artie and myself, but
not when she's - not - thus far, not when Dr. Vanessa has been focused
on something very serious.
It didn't seem odd or out of character for her to be serious the whole
time on Alphas. It didn't seem out of character at all. You'll see when
you see it.
It is a more serious show and our scenes were pretty straight forward
and serious because we were dealing with a real crisis that Dr. Calder
comes to - is involved in helping with this odd situation before they
figure it out.
Ian Cullen: Well I'm actually a fan of yours from the, you know late 70s
and early 80s. I watched you in The Bionic Woman. And I found what you
said about...
Lindsay Wagner: Huh?
Ian Cullen: I watched you in Bionic Woman back in 70s and 80s when it
(unintelligible) out here...
Lindsay Wagner: Great.
Ian Cullen: ...in U.K. And I found what you said about the families deal
of Warehouse 13 quite interesting. What would you - you know, how would
you feel if (you was offered), you know, a little bit more of a
(unintelligible) hero in that. Can you actually see yourself, you know,
ever becoming a little bit more connected with Warehouse 13?
Lindsay Wagner: Yes I could, it's fun.
And if you remember The Bionic Woman much more so than The Six Million
Dollar Man, we had a lot of humor in that show. And that was one of the
reasons that I actually enjoy the Warehouse show and what kind of
attracted me to it in the first place was that they were dealing with
serious things but they were also - have a wonderful humor.
And their writers are very talented I think in coming up with the banter
and balancing it with the adventure or the action or whatever you would
call that, the drama part of it. And I enjoy that. I - Dr. Calder, quite
frankly, hasn't gotten to do much of that.
And it also is a matter of finding her personality. When you have a
character ongoing, it takes sometimes a little while to find that
character that's being expressed through a particular actor.
It sometimes takes a little while to find their form of humor as opposed
to trying to squeeze an actor into the humor that's kind of typically
written for another actor. And so I think it would be fun and it would
be interesting to see how it would unfold if they felt that would be
helpful for the show.
But I think Dr. Calder's position, I'm not sure exactly how that
character would or could be more involved because of the fact she's a
doctor. Do you know what I'm saying; yes but, thus far it's - I mean it
is a much more substantial role that I have this time. And I am involved
in the caper the whole way through the show.
Ian Cullen: Cool.
Lindsay Wagner: But again, you know it would take some creativity to
justify having a doctor there all the time, I think, the way the show is
structured at this point.
Ian Cullen: One more question. Is - in last year's series you had a
really nice scene, you know with Claudia, where it was looking for a
while like she was going to become the next Caretaker at the Warehouse,
and you saw the (unintelligible). Do you have any more scenes with
Claudia this year, you know as kind of like a mentor figure for her?
Lindsay Wagner: Actually no, not yet. She's absolutely fabulous. I think
she is so talented. And I really enjoyed having the chance to work with
her in that scene -- it was wonderful. But hopefully someday I'll have
another one. But pretty much my character's involved with Artie, you
know at this point. She's in them, but she's kind of back there rooting
on our relationship.
Ian Cullen: Okay. Well thanks so much for taking the time out to speak
to us. It's been really nice speaking to you again.
Lindsay Wagner: Thank you, all the best to you.
Ian Cullen: Okay, best to you too.
Lindsay Wagner: Bye.
Ian Cullen: Bye.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question coming from the line of Brandon
Sites from Big Daddy Horror Reviews. Please proceed with your question.
Brandon Sites: Hi Lindsay.
Lindsay Wagner: Hi.
Brandon Sites: Hi. Now that you've been in semi-retirement from acting
gigs, what was it that drew you to wanting to go - get back into
television with this appearance on Warehouse 13?
Lindsay Wagner: You know I'm not entirely sure, other than you know, it
was an opera. And quite frankly I hadn't even seen it; I didn't know
what it was when they called and inquired about doing an episode. And
then I watched it and I thought, "What a fun premise that is. It's very
clever."
And I also liked the essence of it, that it is - that it was a - that
it's a private organization that is trying to keep these power objects,
not only from individuals but keeping them out of the hands of, kind of
self-serving larger corporations or governments that could use them to
hurt others. You know, I like the premise of that, it's...
Brandon Sites: Okay.
Lindsay Wagner: Plus I think Saul is so talented and I thought it would
really be fun to work with him. And it's just - it's fun. It's a fun
idea and it's well carried out.
Brandon Sites: Okay. For a while you've been - after Bionic Woman, for a
while you did a lot of dramatic TV work and everything. What was it like
returning back to the sci-fi realm with Warehouse 13 and Alphas?
Lindsay Wagner: You know as an actor, for me, I don't experience it as
sci-fi -- at least not the part that I've been playing because if you
look at the nature of it, of my character and what she's had to do so
far - this episode is the first time that she's had to encounter
something that's kind of off the charts, so to speak, of reality.
And so it's been pretty much, just the dramatic with a few fun, you know
humorous things involved. In the scenes it's been the same thing, I may
as well have been doing a drama. So didn't like get to meet a monster or
a robot or, you know, or seeing - I wasn't the one who was standing
there supposedly watching a body spontaneously combust into a bonfire,
you know?
I didn't play those parts and I wasn't doing anything bionic or you
know, out of the ordinary. This episode is the first time I really kind
of had to interface with that at all. And it's still pretty tame.
So I don't have - I don't think I have a very exciting answer for you
because when you go in there it's like comedy, if you aren't really
serious about the goofus that you're playing, if you aren't playing them
seriously, if it's not real in your heart, it isn't funny.
You know what's funny about humor and what makes sci-fi good is when you
really believe what you're doing. So you don't think, "I'm doing
sci-fi," you think, "Me, this human being, is standing here looking at
this bizarre happening," and you know, "how do I react to that?" So it
is - it's not all that different. Does that make sense? Do you know what
I'm saying?
Brandon Sites: Yes.
Lindsay Wagner: From an actor's standpoint. You just have to kind of
stretch your imagination to see that happening when it happens. And then
say, "Wow, how would I respond to that," in character of course, "How
would I respond to that?"
I think you know, those kind of things happen with post production and
your creativity gets to run wild in a bigger than life circumstance when
you're creating the special effects and the - it may be more - that
question may be more applicable to someone in that area, or the writers
when they're trying to see that whole picture, than the actors who are
carrying it out, because they have to carry it out for real.
Brandon Sites: Okay. Speaking about the character; what characteristics
do you see in yourself that your character inhibits?
Lindsay Wagner: Well one of the things that was really fun for me is
that - or is fun for me is that the production company and the writers,
when they - if you remember on the first episode, Dr. Calder was trying
to get Artie to tap on his meridians. Remember that -- as a treatment
for his - for himself, when I was tapping on his face, different points
on his face? Hello?
Brandon Sites: Yes.
Lindsay Wagner: Yes, that's actually a real technique. And it's one of
the techniques that I teach in my workshop. And it's something that
diffuse physical pain, it's something that releases fear and negative
emotions and kind of old emotional wounds, and things like that. It's an
extraordinary process.
It's one of the things that kind of got me into doing programs because I
really wanted people to know this existed. It's something that helped me
so much. And so the fact that they wanted me to play this doctor coming
in to treat something really odd, and that they had already researched
my Web site and learned a little bit about what I was teaching, and
incorporated it right in the story. And so, I mean how could I say no to
that, right?
Brandon Sites: Yes.
Lindsay Wagner: In talking with them, if Dr. Calder was going to
continue beyond the first episode, I realized that they were into
letting me kind of do things that would of course harmonize with the
story, but express much more of a holistic or a - and some people would
consider it to be futuristic, but it's not, it's here and now. It's
energy medicine; that we are energy.
And I know that all these shows in the sci-fi are starting to deal with
what quantum physics and nanophysics are all about today, is
understanding that we are energy -- everything is energy. And it's
either in balance or out of balance, so it's expressing you know, a
human or an animal or even the health of a tree or something, you know
either going in a healthy direction or in a life diminishing direction.
And the techniques that I teach are energy techniques, to treat the body
so we don't have to take so many drugs, and you know types of things to
help us out emotionally as well as physically, and go right for the
imbalance in the energy field.
And that just then causes the body to demonstrate balance and return to
its healthy state, because the body does know how to heal itself if we
kind of get out of its way.
And so as we can - you know you will see Dr. Calder, you know doing
certain things like that. and I think in general, I must have been in a
last life a doctor or something because I'm kind of a hopeless - I see
something and it's like, "Oh hell, let me help you fix it," you know or,
it's just a natural part of my being. So I think that was perfect for
Dr. Calder as well.
Brandon Sites: And I have just one more question; you said, with The
Bionic Woman coming to DVD and everything, and I'm sure have gotten to
meet some of your older sci-fi fans from when it came out. What has been
like meeting like, some of your newer, younger fans? How have they been
like?
Lindsay Wagner: Oh they've been great. They're just - well some of the
younger fans, it's funny because obviously I'm not 25 anymore.
And so I've seen some of the kids where the parents will say, "There she
is," -- I'm at the autograph show or something like that. And they'll
come up and they'll say, "Who's this?" "Jaime Sommers," and they'll look
at me and they'll get a little funny look on their face and they'll go,
"Oh yes."
So it's like, "Yes I know, I'm not that age anymore." And they're shy.
They're kind of shy in general, I would say. And I don't know if they're
more shy - not that kids - that are now the parents, not that when they
were younger they weren't shy, but they were more bold I think.
And I think it's because they saw me standing in front of them the way
they got to know me. So they feel they know me better, whereas they
compute that this older woman is the Jaime that they got to know on - I
mean the young generation now, that they got to know on the tape. It
computes, but they're looking at me and they see, you know someone very
much an adult.
And so I think they don't respond quite as openly as the original
generation when I was the same age as the series. Does that make sense?
You understand?
Brandon Sites: Yes, I understand. Well I wanted to thank you so much for
speaking to me. It was a real pleasure.
Lindsay Wagner: Thank you.
Brandon Sites: Thank you.
Lindsay Wagner: You too.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question coming from the line of (Janel
Spiegel) with realityshack.com. Please proceed with your question.
Janel Spiegel: Hi Lindsay, thank you so much for speaking with us today.
Lindsay Wagner: Hi.
Janel Spiegel: I was just wondering, how do you feel about how the
sci-fi generation has kind of gotten so big, and you were part of one of
the most legendary shows that was considered a great science fiction
show, Bionic Woman.
And now there are so many different sci-fi shows. And they're so
accepted and so loved; how do you feel about that, being such a
wonderful influence?
Lindsay Wagner: Well I'm certainly grateful to have been a part of that,
of initiating kind of a whole new view of the world. And you know,
science fiction is an interesting category. And it was even to me then,
because I used to call The Bionic Woman science (unintelligible) or a
science, like just trying to remember how I used to refer to it, because
it wasn't strictly science fiction.
Janel Spiegel: Right.
Lindsay Wagner: It wasn't someone from another planet, it wasn't - it
was a human being dealing with something that was new to the reality of
us human beings, and that was electronics; that they were able to help
and enhance someone who had a physical difficulty.
Janel Spiegel: Right.
Lindsay Wagner: So it wasn't - and that was the - that was at a time
when that science was beginning. So it wasn't totally science fiction,
but most people didn't even know that there was an artificial limb that
somebody could put on and that they were working with you being able to
open it and close it with your mind, even then.
Janel Spiegel: Right.
Lindsay Wagner: It certainly wasn't what we were showing, so we were
kind of embellishing the reality -- present day reality -- that was not
commonplace, but nonetheless a present day reality.
And I kind of see the same thing today. I think - well back then it gave
us - being - having that show be a science fiction - considered to be a
science fiction show gave us room to talk about things that to me were
very real, and to a lot of people, still would consider it science
fiction.
For example, the story Biofeedback; at that time biofeedback was brand
new. Acupuncture was just being looked at in the West, in our culture;
understanding that our body is an electrical system. And dealing with
the electrical system, to bring it back to health, is what acupuncture
is, by...
Janel Spiegel: Right.
Lindsay Wagner: ...you know, working with needles at the intersections
of where these meridians run -- same thing with the tapping process that
I was doing with Artie. And - but acupuncture was very real to me; I had
had acupuncture, I had experienced the benefit of it.
Like I said, "I'd gone through a profound healing with using
visualization and meditation and prayer even, which you know, Time
Magazine has even put on the front cover of it in the last several years
you know, "Science proves why prayer works."
Janel Spiegel: Right.
Lindsay Wagner: It's all of these intangibles that we're starting to
learn about in our culture, this new paradigm of living and
understanding ourselves as far more amazing, we human beings, than we
ever dreamed we were.
And so science fiction, the genre of science fiction, gives permission
to talk about the things that to many of us are real, even if they are
elaborated on, exaggerated on - or exaggerated. And for people who just
can't handle it, they can't stand it say...
Janel Spiegel: Yes.
Lindsay Wagner: ..."Well it's just science fiction, right?"
Janel Spiegel: Yes.
Lindsay Wagner: But to other people they go, "Oh," you know and they
start thinking about the reality of that, "Is that really me? Am I kind
of like that?" It gives people permission to go deeper in the
understanding of themselves. So I think science fiction - and I was
never a science fiction fan before The Bionic Woman, at all.
Janel Spiegel: Really?
Lindsay Wagner: Except for Star Trek, there was - yes I mean it's kind
of funny isn't it, that I ended up there. But when a friend of mine when
I was - I was actually turning down the role, about to turn down the
role, and a dear - my dearest friend said to me, she said, "But don't
you understand that you can talk about whatever you want to talk about?
Because being into meditation and self-healing and you know Chinese
medicine and acupuncture, and all these things that other people were
just like, "What are you talking about," that's what the culture was
like then. I was a real weirdo, so to speak.
And so it was easy for me to relate to Jaime, feeling that way and bring
that to her. But for me it was so real. And she said, "You can say and
do anything you want on this show because people just write it off if
it's too much for them. But you'll be able to express your thoughts,
your ideas." And so we did a show, for example, called Biofeedback. I
don't know if you remember that episode.
Janel Spiegel: Yes.
Lindsay Wagner: But it was - yes? Where one of the scientists, for those
who don't remember it and are listening to this...
Janel Spiegel: Yes.
Lindsay Wagner: ...one of the OSI Scientists went to India and Tibet and
learned to control his body with his mind, as the Yogis do, and was able
to keep himself from bleeding to death when he was shot until they could
get to him by controlling his body with his mind -- which we have the
capacity to do, but we haven't...
Janel Spiegel: Yes.
Lindsay Wagner: ...in our culture, learned to harness that yet. And so
we still hold limited ideas of who we are. And so once she got that
through my head I went, "Wow, I never thought about it that way," and I
never saw science fiction that way.
Because what I saw as a kid, the only science fiction ones that I really
ever saw were you know, with big gory monsters and things like that. It
was so far beyond that I - that star trek is what - seeing some of the
early Star Trek episodes, there was an intelligence that they infused in
it -- they used it the same way.
And I got to thinking, "You know that's true." They talk about things -
as a matter of fact, there's even a Star Trek episode where somebody is
afraid, and he's afraid to get in the transporter, and he starts - the
doctor teaches him to tap on the side of his neck.
Janel Spiegel: (Unintelligible).
Lindsay Wagner: I don't know if anybody remembers that episode.
But anyway, lately when my friend, who's a real Trekkie, she said
something about, she said, "You know there was an old episode," she told
me about it recently, and I just cracked up when I saw it. I mean they
weren't doing the points that I'm familiar with working on, but somebody
knew something about it and they wrote it into the story.
So dropping seeds like that in stories, like we did with Artie, and
teaching him like that. Or overtly talking about what we can do with our
mind in The Bionic Woman in the 70s was...
Janel Spiegel: Definitely.
Lindsay Wagner: ...huge, a huge step. And yet we could do it because we
were in a genre that - where people would look at it and take it or
leave it. But when we see truth, I believe when human beings hear
something that's true, whether our belief system accepts it or not,
something starts to resonate inside.
Janel Spiegel: Wow.
Lindsay Wagner: And I think awakening begins. And so...
Janel Spiegel: Definitely.
Lindsay Wagner: ...that's one of the things that I really appreciate
about the genre of sci-fi.
Janel Spiegel: Definitely makes sense. I have one more question; I do
know that you're on Twitter -- I see Open Heart is on Twitter. I was
wondering, what are your thoughts on the social networks?
Lindsay Wagner: Well I think like anything else, man, humanity comes up
with, I think it's brilliant in so many ways, I think it's very helpful
in a lot of ways. And like anything else it can be used to enhance our
life or to really mess us up.
Janel Spiegel: Right.
Lindsay Wagner: And if we stop relating as human beings to each other,
since we are still in the body, I think it's a - it can be a really - it
can be just as much of a drug as the things we relate to as drugs, to
keep us...
Janel Spiegel: Right.
Lindsay Wagner: ...learning to grow - or to grow as human beings with
each other, to enhance our lives; it can keep us from that if we're not
careful and watch that we don't become addicted to the safe environment
of not having to be in your presence or work it out because I can click
you off at any time.
Janel Spiegel: Yes.
Lindsay Wagner: But the same thing was true with television. Television
can be an incredible tool for social change, for - I mean television was
really the beginning of the social network, if you will, mass - you
know, your influencing masses, is what the television is about.
Janel Spiegel: Right.
Lindsay Wagner: It's not interactive. But now what we've done is just
simply taken it to an interactive state. And it allows everybody to
participate. So it can really be extraordinary if it's used right. It's
obviously a very good marketing tool.
Janel Spiegel: Right.
Lindsay Wagner: To bring people together from all cultures who are
motivated to connect and learn about each other without all the
political agenda that goes on on a culture - on a national - on our
national levels. I mean I'm talking about everybody, not just us.
Janel Spiegel: Yes.
Lindsay Wagner: It's an easy way to - you know, to really connect with
other human beings and find out what is beautiful and very much alike
about us, instead of you know, being taught what is helpful for
somebody's political agenda, about who they are and, "Them, the others,"
you know, kind of thing.
Janel Spiegel: Yes, (unintelligible).
Lindsay Wagner: So I think there's a lot of value that can come from it.
But again, it can be used against us, just like anything else.
Janel Spiegel: Right. Well I want to thank you so much. And thank you
for being an inspiration. And good luck with everything.
Lindsay Wagner: Yes.
Janel Spiegel: And thank you for your time today.
Lindsay Wagner: You're welcome. Thank you.
Janel Spiegel: Thank you.
Lindsay Wagner: Bye.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen as a reminder, to register for
a question press the 1 followed by the 4. Our next question coming from
the line of Kathie Huddleston from blastr.com. Please proceed with your
question.
Kathie Huddleston: Hi. Thanks so much for talking to us today.
Lindsay Wagner: Hi there. You're welcome.
Kathie Huddleston: So what kind of a journey would you - do you see Dr.
Vanessa Calder on, in Warehouse 13?
Lindsay Wagner: I have no idea. I don't - they are so secretive, even
with the cast. We don't know where we're going until they tell us.
Kathie Huddleston: What are your hopes for her?
Lindsay Wagner: Well I guess if I had to express a hope, I would hope
that I would get to do a little bit more doctoring so that I can utilize
and maybe, you know, use the character to express - to help show people
some things that really exist, like the tapping process or for example
to use it as edutainment (sic), but certainly never to the exclusion of
entertainment.
There's no reason you can't do certain things in shows that will allow
people to learn something new, especially in a sci-fi or a futuristic
kind of environment.
Kathie Huddleston: What kind of...
Lindsay Wagner: So that's (unintelligible)...
Kathie Huddleston: I'm sorry.
Lindsay Wagner: I'd like to see more of that.
Kathie Huddleston: And what kind of a journey do you see yourself on?
What kind of a path?
Lindsay Wagner: Come to the workshop and you'll find out all about it.
Kathie Huddleston: Thank you so much.
Lindsay Wagner: Oh gosh, just constantly staying open to, I think the
shift that we're going through on a planetary level actually. I think
humanity and - we're going through a big escalation time, I think
escalation in consciousness, waking up.
And I don't think it's arbitrary that at this point there's a lot of
shows on sci-fi channels, or even mainstream channels, not even just
sci-fi channels, where you're seeing people recognizing that they have
certain powers. Again, it's an exaggeration in most cases, but I relate
to those things as actually true at their - at the basis of it.
We human beings - and these are the things that I have been learning
about myself. And the more I've traveled and worked with people and done
these workshops, I learn more and more about people more directly
because I'm out there with the people directly, I'm not in a studio all
the time. And people share things with me.
There's a lot of amazing things going on; there are more people becoming
intuitive; there are more people who are learning how to open up to the
flow of transformative energies for healing; there's a lot of
extraordinary stuff going on today.
And it's a big subject, and so I feel like I'm on a constant learning
journey about myself and my own abilities. And one of the ways I relate
to that is constantly being open to looking at how I carry limitations
in my mind. Because our limitations are really all about what's
registered in our mind. And they can be changed. They can be transformed
or transmuted if you will. And that's the work that we do in the
workshop.
I've had the real pleasure and grace in my life to have met some
extraordinary teachers that have taught me ways of working with the
limitations or the old wounds or the things that get in our way from
living as full of a life, expressive and joyful and non-fearful life as
possible. And that takes us into all kinds of potential.
So the journey for me is staying open to how powerful and naturally
peaceful and joyful and we are at our core. And that equates to physical
health. And that equates to affecting others in a positive way instead
of triggering the negativity in others. So I guess it's a constant, more
and more awakening, more and more unfolding the true self.
Kathie Huddleston: Wow, well thank you so much.
Lindsay Wagner: Okay.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question coming from the line of April
deShane from Blog Critics. Please proceed with your question.
April deShane: Hi Jaime.
Lindsay Wagner: Hi.
April deShane: Hi. I - how does working on a series now, 2011, compare
to working on a series, what was it, 30 years ago, Bionic Woman?
Lindsay Wagner: Yes, probably more than that.
April deShane: Yes. I remember it.
Lindsay Wagner: How does it compare? Well they don't tend to have
singular as much today -- actually very little. Used to be that there
was kind of a sole star of a show; today they do more ensemble pieces.
It kind of saves actors' lives to not have to have the entire show on
your shoulders.
Also, it wasn't - you know the type of special effects and stunts and
all of that were just - that we experience today of course didn't exist
then, and so we - one of the things was we only had one unit. We didn't
really have two units.
They have today, First Unit, Second Unit. Second Unit's out doing the,
you know all of the stunts and that type of stuff, while First Unit's
filming the acting parts. And sometimes they work together.
But we had to do everything because we were just at the beginning of
this whole technological and heavy action oriented series work. And so
that made it far more laborious.
And having an ensemble cast, where you can give somebody a break today
every - the hours always get long, no matter whether you have an
ensemble cast or not. But you may only have to work four days a week, or
sometimes three days a week, as opposed to five days a week, with those
kinds of hours. So it's easier on the person.
Those are the biggest things that I notice. And of course the technology
and all of that. I don't think it's as pretty, quite frankly. I think
the high def has come in and it's made everything gritty and real. But I
miss some of the beauty of film and film lighting and I kind of miss
that.
April deShane: Okay. Most of my questions were asked. What - I see - or
I've read that Lee Majors has done some comedy. I think he was on
sci-fi. Is that anything that you're interested in doing?
Lindsay Wagner: I would love to do comedy -- absolutely. I would
definitely like to do that. Of course, knowing that the writers would
have to find your personal - you know your way of being funny, which is
unique to the actor.
But that's what you do when you have somebody starring in a show or
you've got a character you develop around a particular actor if you find
their natural bent and elaborate on that. I did a lot of that in The
Bionic Woman. You know, we made that a lot more funny than...
April deShane: Yes, I remember you being funny.
Lindsay Wagner: Yes, I know. And it's funny, I did - after that I did
several dramas in a row and the industry themselves just kind of got
locked into me as a dramatic actress. It was, "That was fast," you know?
I just spent...
April deShane: Right.
Lindsay Wagner: ...three years and all these reruns as, you know playing
fun and funny. And then I did two or three dramas in a row and it's like
they forgot. And so I don't know, maybe someday.
April deShane: Okay. And then you might have answered this; how did you
get the role? Did you go after it? Did someone - did they just come to
you?
Lindsay Wagner: No I was under contract to Universal and...
April deShane: Okay.
Lindsay Wagner: ...I had been doing several things for them. And I had
made a couple of movies that I'd been hired by outside people to do two
people in The Paper Chase in - while I was still under contract with
Universal. And they were casting this part of The Bionic Woman.
And they just called and said, "Do you want to do it?" And that's - I
was talking about it earlier where - because I almost didn't do it. It
was a sci-fi and I just - all I did was read the script, and here's this
guy jumping up on the building and the - you know, and running faster
than the car.
And I'm thinking, "Oh God, you kidding me?" And I must admit, that was
my first response. But I had told my mother, my sister was 14 years
younger than me, so at that age I was what, I was 25 I think when I did
The Six Million Dollar Man episode that was just supposed to be an
episode, before we even knew it was going to become a series.
And I was talking to my mom and said, "You're not going to believe the
script they sent me, blah, blah, blah." And she said, "Oh you mean The
Six Million Dollar Man?" She said, "They want you to be The Bionic
Woman?"
And I went - and I said, "How do you know all that?" And she said, "Well
Lindsay, it's your sister's favorite show." I said, "Really?" I had
never seen it. And she said, "Oh yes."
So I said, "Okay, I'm going to have to watch this." And then I looked at
my - at the cover letter that came with the script, and I saw that the
start date was my sister's birthday. And I thought - so I actually did
the first episode for my sister as a birthday present.
April deShane: That's great.
Lindsay Wagner: That's talking about, yes.
April deShane: I think that's it. I think everything else was pretty
much covered. Just one - do you do - for your workshops and retreats, I
know you're on Twitter; do you have a Facebook page?
Lindsay Wagner: Oh yes.
April deShane: Okay.
Lindsay Wagner: It's Lindsay Wagner, Quiet the Mind, Open the Heart. And
you can go to lindsaywagnerinternational.com is the Web site, and it
talks all about the workshops and where they're going to be and what we
do and the basic philosophy of it and all that.
April deShane: Okay.
Lindsay Wagner: lindsaywagnerinternational.com.
April deShane: I got it up, cool.
Lindsay Wagner: Cool.
April deShane: Thank you.
Lindsay Wagner: You're welcome. Have one coming up in Toronto - I mean
in Bancroft outside of Toronto, this next week actually...
April deShane: I would love it.
Lindsay Wagner: Where are you?
April deShane: I'm in Minnesota.
Lindsay Wagner: Minnesota. I also have one in...
April deShane: Minnesota, yah.
Lindsay Wagner: Minnesota, yah. And I have one in Palm Springs in
August.
April deShane: Nice.
Lindsay Wagner: That's three and four days. And then I'll be in -
actually maybe closer to you, I don't know, Calgary. I'm going to be in
Calgary in September. So I've got - those are the three workshops that I
have coming up right now.
April deShane: Great. I love everything about it and everything you're
saying. It's great.
Lindsay Wagner: Well hopefully I'll see you one day.
April deShane: Great.
Lindsay Wagner: Come join us.
April deShane: Thank you.
Lindsay Wagner: All right. Bye.
April deShane: Bye.
Gary Morgenstein: We have time for one more question for Lindsay please.
Operator: Thank you. We have a follow-up question coming from the line
of Brandon Sites. Please proceed with your question.
Brandon Sites: Hi again Lindsay.
Lindsay Wagner: Hi.
Brandon Sites: I have a fan question; they were wondering what you took
from working with John Houseman, or how was it like working with him?
Lindsay Wagner: Well he was really something. He had such a presence, it
was just palpable. He was pretty much playing himself, only not mean.
Although I've never studied with him and I've heard some people say,
"Yes, he could be kind of tough," but just his presence and his
groundedness.
It's nothing that - it's very hard to explain intellectually because it
was an experience. So I think I got more experiential learning from him,
if you will, than anything that he would have said to me or you know. It
was just, being in his energy and feeling his groundedness while he was
working; I kind of learned from just experiencing that.
Brandon Sites: Okay. And then I have another fan question; they want to
know what advice do you have for the new generation of actors coming up
these days.
Lindsay Wagner: Well I can't give much advice on the business itself
because I'm kind of out of the loop for the most part. And I think a lot
of things are different. I know my sons are involved in it in their own
way. And just hearing them talk about certain things, a lot of it sounds
kind of different.
But I would say to them these days and any days is to, "Don't forget to
pay attention to who you are and your values and your personal growth.
Don't let the desire to succeed in that outweigh the desire to succeed
as a human being because it can be very intoxicating and tantalizing.
When you lose yourself, you're in it even if you become successful, you
won't be happy with it."
Brandon Sites: That's very sound advice.
Lindsay Wagner: Yes.
Brandon Sites: And I just have one more question, "What would be - what
would people, your fans, be surprised to learn about you that they
wouldn't know already?"
Lindsay Wagner: You know, when you're in the public eye this long, I
don't know if there's anything that they - it's like, what would that
be? Half the time I find myself calling (Kathy Bartels) who runs my fan
club, when I can't remember certain things. "Oh yes, well that..." or
she'll put out a thing, "Does anybody remember..." and they've got the
answer for me.
I don't know. That's a good question though, isn't it? I may have to
think about that and answer it next time.
Brandon Sites: Okay. I'm sorry can I ask you one more question?
Lindsay Wagner: Yes.
Brandon Sites: Since you've worked on TV movies, feature films and TV
shows, what is - which one do you prefer yourself and why?
Lindsay Wagner: I think - well there's - you know, it's hard to say
because there's different reasons that I like the different mediums. On
a feature film you have more time and money to really work and develop
your character and work on it to make it as good as you can possibly
make it -- usually, unless you're doing a low budget film.
But - and you don't have the time to do that necessarily on a series.
But on a series you have the ability to do it over-time. So it wasn't so
great this week, but you start developing that character and you can get
into various - you have time to talk about maybe many different things,
like we did in The Bionic Woman, where we were able to cover, you know
the potential, human potential in the biofeedback story, or you know
discussing social issues like - it wasn't heavy, but racism in that - or
the difference of religions like we had - hello?
Brandon Sites: Yes I can hear you.
Lindsay Wagner: Are you there? I have a feeling my phone's about to die.
Let me switch phones; hold on. Can you hear me?
Brandon Sites: Yes Lindsay. I can hear you.
Lindsay Wagner: Okay. So we were able to cover different aspects of
life, as far as content goes, in the breadth of a series over time. When
Charlie Hill came on and Jaime was, you know dating him, it was the
first time that a star of a series, male or female, had ever gone out
with - you know had been seen in a romantic light with someone from a
different race.
We broke a lot of ground with that series in so many different ways; not
just technologically and you know, a woman first staring for the first
time in a serious role without having to make excuses for herself being
in the lead by, you know, joking all the time. I mean though we used
humor, you know Jaime was as - she was completely validated in being her
own person.
And so that over time, you can cover a lot of the different issues. And
I like that.
In a TV movie you can - you don't have the time or the resources that
you do in a feature, but still there is the opportunity in a one-off
like that, as opposed to a series where you have to just bang them out
constantly so you don't get to refine it and you don't get to really,
you know hone in as much as you would like to, or perfect it as much as
you'd like to. You've just got to keep moving and hope that episode came
out okay.
And - but in the TV movies, when I got into that, because I liked
socially poignant things, stories, I found that that journey, though we
didn't have the money and as much time as I would have liked, still
there was time to focus very intensely on a particular issue.
So with the various movies that I did for television, we covered many
different socially relevant issues. And could hone that story right
around that particular thing and go much more deeply into it than we
could in an episode.
So I guess I - that's a big long answer to say, "I don't know that I
just have one favorite." It's certainly more fun if you've got more
money and more time to do it. That's no - that's a given. And that's
what you have in a feature.
Brandon Sites: (Unintelligible) just think about socially relevant
issues, is there any issues you think that haven't been covered enough
that you would like to see covered more these days on TV or in a movie?
Lindsay Wagner: I think anything having to do with inclusion rather than
exclusion. I think we focus - even when we focus, a lot of times when
things are, films or whatever are done with a socially poignant point to
them or something, they're often covering the problem but don't often
offer certain solutions.
To see people growing out of their prejudice or their having an
experience -- which does happen to people you know, we just don't see -
we'll do it, you know do a story - let's say it's racism. We'll do a
story and you'll see a story about what happened to this person, with
that person. And by the end of it, you know, they finally got caught
having done something horrible to someone of a different race or sexual
preference or whatever.
But what is - you know, what came out of that? What - I like to see the
stories that include - and they are there, it's just taking the time to
find them and not settling for just drama in a story, to find stories of
transcention (sic), if you will, somebody transcending their present
state of mind.
For example, when we did the story on domestic violence, Shattered
Dreams, it was (unintelligible) that we could have done. We picked the
one that - of a woman who through her journey started learning about
herself. And learning to - you know, what she needed to do to grow
through her being kind of stuck in that life pattern.
It was becoming more and more dangerous for her and her children. But
she, unlike - which was a fantastic movie. They did a beautiful job.
Farrah did an amazing job with The Burning Bed.
I wouldn't have chosen that story myself because the answer isn't to
kill the perpetrator -- that doesn't get us anywhere as a society, you
know; it doesn't get us anywhere as an individual. And there are other
answers. But it's not as easy because those kinds of stories that - you
don't find them as easily. And they're harder to write and still keep it
interesting. But it absolutely can be done.
So I guess that's kind of a big broad answer. It's not picking an issue
that I'd like to see more done about this or that, because with any
issue it's how they handle it. That's what I feel I would like to see
more of; stories of people really - more internally - internal workings.
And that's harder to write, I grant you. But that's what I'd like to
see.
Gary Morgenstein: We've got to let Lindsay go.
((Crosstalk))
Gary Morgenstein: Thank you so much Lindsay for taking the time...
Lindsay Wagner: You're welcome.
Gary Morgenstein: ...to talk to everyone. That - your guest appearance
on Warehouse 13, July 25 at 9:00 pm.
Lindsay Wagner: Okay. Thank you everybody who joined us and for helping
us get the word out about Warehouse too. Thank you.
Gary Morgenstein: Thank you. Have a great day everyone.
Lindsay Wagner: All right.
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