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By Suzanne

Geoff Stults, star of "The Finder"Hart Hanson, creator of "The Finder" and "Bones"

Interview with Geoff Stults & Hart Hanson of "The Finder" on FOX 1/6/12

I didn't get to ask any questions during this call - they ran short of time. However, Geoff Stults was kind enough to answer my question via Twitter instead.
I asked: I was wondering if this is the most messed-up character you've ever played?
And he replied: "Hmm. The most fun for sure. Probably the most fucked up."
LOL! It was fun listening to this call. I've spoken with Hart Hanson before, both on Twitter and on conference call. Both he and Geoff Stults were funny and great to listen to.

FBC PUBLICITY: The Finder Conference Call with Geoff Stults & Hart Hanson
January 6, 2012/10:00 a.m. PST

Kim Kurland
Geoff Stults
Hart Hanson


Moderator Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for standing by. Welcome to todayís The Finder conference call with Geoff Stults and Hart Hanson. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. Soon we will conduct a question and answer session with instructions given at that time. As a reminder todayís conference is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over our host today, Ms. Kim Kurland. Please go ahead, maíam.

K. Kurland Hello, everyone, I just wanted to thank you for taking part in this call today with Geoff and Hart. Weíre all very excited about the premiere of The Finder next Thursday night at 9 oíclock. Hopefully you all have had a chance to take a look at the episode that is available on our Fox screening room site. If anybody has any follow-up questions after the call, feel free to email me at And, Dave, I think we can start with questions.

Moderator Thank you very much. For our first question we are going to go to the line of Alice Chapman-Nugent with Times Courier. Go ahead, please.

A. Chapman-Nugent Hello, good talking to you guys.

H. Hanson Hello, Alice.

A. Chapman-Nugent Hello.

G. Stults Good morning.

A. Chapman-Nugent Well, itís afternoon where I am.

H. Hanson Where are you?

A. Chapman-Nugent Iím in Georgia.

H. Hanson Okay, thatís afternoon.

A. Chapman-Nugent Yes.

G. Stults I can hear it now, too.

A. Chapman-Nugent I guess my question would be for both of you, the first one anyway. What is it about The Finder that you think will attract viewers?

G. Stults Iím going to tell you what I can. Itís fun. My favorite thing about the character in the show when I first became aware that it was the kind of show that didnít take itself seriously, at least the character doesnít take himself seriously and it allows you, the viewer, just to enjoy the ride. Itís just fun and entertaining and thatís I think what our goal is. Weíre just trying to have a nice 43 minute enjoyable show that people can tune in at any point and any part of the series and any part of the episodes and enjoy themselves and understand whatís going on. Hart?
H. Hanson At the beginning of this season, everyone is trying to figure out the most economic way to make TV. And the head of production at 20th Century Fox TV told all the line producers in order to prioritize what made it to the screen that they should ask their show runner what was first and foremost. And without a doubt I didnít even have to think about it; it was entertainment; we just want to entertain an audience for an hour once a week.

A. Chapman-Nugent Okay. And my final question is, Geoff, in your words tell me a little bit about your characterís background and what do you think is what makes him tick?

G. Stults Well, at the root of Walter, heís a former military policeman who suffered a little brain trauma when he was serving in Iraq, so thatís what allows us the entry point into the series and also into Walter. We certainly think itís very important to hardenize it and in no way are we trying to make light of PTSD and those people that actually suffer from it because itís a very real disease and a very real problem for our troops and other people for many other reasons. But it allows us this really interesting dramatic license too, itís like the focal point for all these different things that Walter does.

And his PTSD, it manifests itself into a little bit of a, he lacks social grace. Heís a little paranoid. Heís not very trusting of people. And he isnít the perfect dinner guest, but heís fun. If heís thinking in terms of what he may say, he never intends to be insulting, but itís just matter of fact to him. And those kind of behaviors will get you in trouble, but theyíre also really fun to watch if we do it in a way that weíve done it, that Hart has done it and the rest of the writers, which is in a way that is light-hearted and entertaining and fun.

A. Chapman-Nugent Thank you, best to both of you.

G. Stults I appreciate it, thank you for having that adorable accent.

Moderator Thank you. Next weíll hear from the line of Vlada Gelman with TV Line. Your line is open.

V. Gelman Hello, guys. How are you today?

H. Hanson Hello, good, how are you?

V. Gelman Iím good, how are you?
H. Hanson Oh, great, thanks.

V. Gelman So I know you have some Bones people coming over to the The Finder, but Iím wondering if maybe weíll see some Finder people back on Bones when it comes back from the hiatus.

H. Hanson Oh, man that would a high class idea for that to happen. Oh, you mean during this season or next season?

V. Gelman Either one.

H. Hanson Definitely this season we havenít considered it yet. We just donít know how The Finder is going to do, so it hasnít been in our wheelhouse of things to think of, but thatís a good idea now that youíve said it. Geoff, do you want to go be on the Bones show again?

G. Stults Hey, buddy, anything I can do to get to work with you. That was a politically correct answer, ladies and gentlemen.

V. Gelman Well, the show also affords you a great opportunity to have a lot of fun guest stars. Can you talk about some of the names weíll be seeing?
H. Hanson Yes, Bones we never had a chance to have really great guest stars because the way itís structured is thereís a dead body and then we try and figure out who killed that person and everybody is a suspect. The Finder is a little different. A client comes through the door. Itís a bit of a throw-back, so we have opportunities for guest stars then. And then, Geoff, help me, weíve had John Fogerty is in the first episode, the great singer/songwriter from Credence and Eric Roberts.

G. Stults 50 Cent.

H. Hanson Yes, we have opportunities to have all these great guest stars come onto the show and weíve been really glad of whoís come to be on the show.

G. Stults Yes, itís been great. Gosh, it escapes me who is playing Ice Pick?

H. Hanson Oh, 50 Cent, no, not Ice Pick. Ice Pick is Michael Des Barres.

G. Stults Thatís right.

H. Hanson And then we had 50 Cent, Curtis Jackson came to play a hip hop mogul. Who else have we had?
G. Stults Yes, now itís starting to escape me.

H. Hanson Thatís why everything drops out of my head immediately.

G. Stults Itís just like studying for finals.

H. Hanson Yes. Iím going to have this list in front of me from now on, but weíve had some really good guest stars that weíve, Amy Aquino plays Willaís probation officer.

G. Stults Thatís right.

H. Hanson Who played the serial killer, Geoff?

G. Stults Oh, Jodi Lyn OíKeefe.

H. Hanson Yes, Jodi Lyn OíKeefe.

G. Stults Jamie Murray, yes, thereís been some great guest stars.

H. Hanson Oh, good, yes, yes, there you go, Jamie Murray, just a lot of fun with guest stars, oh, two of my favorites I think.

G. Stults Oh, yes, of course.

H. Hanson Greg Evigan and Mario Van Peebles are playing a version of the well-known Miami cop duo from the Ď80s. Those are two very funny, thereís a reason those guys are stars and that was a lot of fun. Have I missed anyone, do you think, Geoff?

G. Stults Gosh, I think thatís pretty much it.

H. Hanson Yes.

V. Gelman That sounds fun, thanks, guys.

H. Hanson Thank you.

G. Stults Thank you, Vlada.

Moderator Thank you. Weíll hear next from the line of Amy Amatangelo with the Boston Herald. Go ahead, please.

A. Amatangelo Hello, thanks so much for talking to us. I wanted to ask Geoff a little bit of the back story about getting this part. Was it just a straight audition or how did it come about for you?

G. Stults It turns out that Hart has had this long-time man crush on me that none of us knew about. And itís just like the weirdest thing when I finally went in the room, he threw himself at me, and it was awkward, so I felt bad and I was like all right, Iíll do this.

The way it really happened wasó

H. Hanson I like that version. I think we should go with that.

G. Stults It was a great version. I had met with Hart. The long story short is that I was a little apprehensive after coming off of a couple of dramas that itís just an interesting lifestyle. Itís definitely, you live there when youíre the lead of the show. And I made a decision that I was only going to do a half hour. So when this got sent my way, I didnít read it and it got sent my way again and the casting director had been a fan of mine and had been helpful to me in my career and asked me to read it as a favor to him. He just said, ďIf you like this at all, just do me the favor and sit down with Hart Hanson.Ē I was like. ďWho the F is Hart Hanson?Ē

So I read it and I was like, ah, man, I like this. All right Iíll at least meet with him. I purposely grew out a beard. I didnít shave. I tried to look as rough as I could because my goal was to walk in there and have Hart be like ďthis isnít the guy.Ē And everything I did backfired on me.

I need to probably take that technique into more of my career, just like that episode in Seinfeld when George Castanza realizes that every decision he makes is wrong, so he has to start going with the exact opposite of his gut reactions, so thatís kind of what happened. And the next thing you know weíre doing a show together.

A. Amatangelo Thatís great, thank you. My other question was youíve acted with your brother before and I know you guys are close. Any chance weíll see your brother on this show or any chance you guys will be on screen together any time soon?

G. Stults You crystal ball reader, itís possible.

H. Hanson A very, very, very good chance.

A. Amatangelo Oh, weíll find out Ö brother.

G. Stults Thatís right. Thatís always been very fun and Iím very lucky to have a brother who happens to be actor and who, as a codependent adult, we sometimes live together. So, yes, we get along and to work together would be, again, would be a blast.

A. Amatangelo Great, thank you both so much.

H. Hanson Thank you.

G. Stults Thank you.

Moderator Thank you, weíll hear next from Soo Youn with The Daily. Go ahead, please.

S. Youn Hello, I was wondering what happened, what you guys did with the Saffron Burrows character and how you phased her out after the pilot.

H. Hanson Well, we really didnít. If it was a normal pilot, if weíd done the show as a normal pilot, then what we would have done is looked at it and decided what changes we were going to make and do a bunch of re-shoots; and the world would never have known or it would have been a byline that weíve made casting changes. Youíve seen that many times. In our case everything we did was out in public and we had no time because our, Iím hooking my fingersÖ, ďpilot,Ē was a special episode of Bones. So there was just no chance of that happening, and the decisions were made after the pilot aired, the spin-off crossover pilot aired.

So poor Saffron was in the unenviable position of everyone seeing her and then now weíre going to wonder where she was and itís a good question. The reasons decisions are made are spread over a studio and network, lots of arguing and lots of fighting that Iím not really too interested in getting into.

But in the end the decision was made to go in a different direction to expand the show with two characters instead of the one character, Ike, and we made the change. We never explained the change in our series. We never say what ever happened to that woman who used to be here. We just move on, so itís just one of the costs of doing the show the way we did it. Did that answer your question?

S. Youn I think so. And also just because it was in the news yesterday, I was wondering 50 Cent had been Tweeting a lot about foreseeing his death. I was just wondering how he was when you guys shot with him.

H. Hanson Oh my goodness.

G. Stults 50 Cent has been Tweeting about foreseeing his death?

S. Youn Heís saying I feel like Iím going to die soon and it was accompanied about a lot of stuff about him being disenchanted with his label and thatís why heís working on his new drink to have a legacy.

H. Hanson Oh, I missed all that. I can tell you that when he was on our show, and Geoff can tell you more, he was delightful, upbeat, delightful, very serious about acting. Geoff?

G. Stults Oh, God, of all the people that Iíve worked with, he wasóI was the most apprehensive just because you donít know, again, you expect an entourage and heís got, well, let me tell you the mogul, it cost him money to do our show.

H. Hanson Yes, it cost him money to come to work on our show.

G. Stults Yes, and he literally was fantastic. He was maybe my favorite. He never left the set. He was there. He made his lines. He was a pleasure to work with. He was entertaining. Heís one of the most charismatic men Iíve ever met in my life, people, thereís a reason he is as successful as he is. So I also think that heís smarter than everybody, so if heís Tweeting about foreshadowing his death, then he is a marketing genius, and you fell for it.

S. Youn I did, I did, we all did.

H. Hanson That episode was directed by David Boreanaz.

G. Stults Oh, thatís right.

H. Hanson I spent New Years with David and he had an absolutely wonderful time with the guy and one thing that David is really good at is mimicking people. Itís a sign of fondness with him, so I hope Geoff is right. I hope Geoff is right and heís a marketing genius.

S. Youn That he is.

G. Stults Have I ever been wrong? Never.

S. Youn Great, thanks a lot.

Moderator Thank you, next weíll hear from the line of Jennifer Gillis with the Voice of TV. Go ahead, please.

J. Gillis Hello, guys, how are you doing today?

H. Hanson Hello, good morning. Geoff, this is where I usually I say, ďThere it is, the voice of TV.Ē

J. Gillis Weíre here in Boston alive and well.

G. Stults Holy ..., thatís what it sounds like? This is amazing.

H. Hanson Thatís what it sounds like.

J. Gillis Itís what Boston sounds like, yes, a quick question for you guys. Itís clear through casting and promotion that Fox is relying on the Bones audience to tune in. How does The Finder stand on its own?

H. Hanson I think itís important to make a distinction between the creative and the marketing. And I know, believe me I know, that they are counting on the Bones audience beingóitís a measured decision to go after the Bones audience to try and get them to come over. Thereís a big experiment in this way of making a pilot.

Creatively this show stands on its own in my opinion. It lives in the same universe as Bones, meaning that itís a heightened reality. I hope largely humorous for people, weíll make you cry; weíll make you think a little bit of philosophy, a little bit of laughs. Unlike Bones we wonít try and make you throw up, but it lives totally on its own, but youíre dead right. We are all trying to get the loyal kind of audience that Bones has, a nice chunk of people who followed Bones from time slot to time slot. If we can get a part of that audience on The Finder, then it benefits everyone.

G. Stults I can tell you from my perspective as just a cast member of The Finder, I guess Iíll also say that of Bones and our own little spin-off way, weíre aware of that. Weíre aware that weíll be mixing, hopefully, obviously weíre going to be counting on some people coming over. We realize that there are some die-hard Bones fans. We realize that thereíll be criticism because we are not the same thing. Like Hart said, we were born in the same world.

I guess we come from the same world, but the way that I look at it is, and I actually called Bones the varsity team and The Finder is the JV team. Weíre born from Bones. We exist, The Finder and the 200 crew members of The Finder, exist because of the success of Bones and David and Emily and the rest of the cast, John Francis Daley and T. J. were both on our show. But even before that T.J. and Michaela they were all part of the spin-off, so we really exist because of them and weíre grateful to that and we understand that without Bones, The Finder doesnít exist, but yet we are different.

Itís a little quirkier I would say. The actors on Bones are smarter than the actors on The Finder. We couldnít even say the words that the actors on Bones do, so we have to have a lot more action to fill in for the lack of intelligence .... So thereís one difference there and it only begins there.

J. Gillis The Bones vocabulary helps my job, too. I sound smarter, too.

G. Stults Oh, yes, itís unbelievable. I have to have a thesaurus with me.

J. Gillis One other question, whose brilliant idea was it to cast Michael Clarke Duncan because I think I love him?

H. Hanson Michael Clarke Duncan was, the original character of Leo Knox was Sam Sheppard, an elderly, skinny white cowboy. I believe that the person who first said to me ďis there a role for Michael Clarke Duncan on the show?Ē was the head of casting, Sharon Klein, at the studio. I believe thatís where it came from. Whoever it was, I donít think she got through Clarke before I said, ďYes, thereís a role for himĒ and I just totally rewrote Leo.

If you have a chance to get someone like Michael Clarke Duncan, you donít stop and say ďdoes that really match the character?Ē You write a character to match him. He has his aura and charisma and his whole being that you want to go running at, so thatís what we did. So you can thank the studio.

J. Gillis Thank you, studio.

H. Hanson They donít hear that a lot.

J. Gillis Thank you, guys, have a great day.

H. Hanson Thank you.

G. Stults You, too, thank you.

Moderator Thank you, next weíll hear from the line of Sean Plummer with MSN Canada. Go ahead, please.

S. Plummer Hello, hello. Hey, youíre from Canada.

H. Hanson I am from Canada.

S. Plummer Hart, actually can you describe the origins of this series creatively and why did you cast Geoff?

G. Stults Itís a great question.

H. Hanson I have an overall deal with 20th Century Fox TV. I owe them a pilot each year. I was actually thinking this year of trying to weasel out of it; Iím busy on Bones and everything. One of the executives at 20th Century Fox, Lisa Katz, brought me a novel called The Locator by Richard Greener and they sucked me in. First she said, ďDo you think this would make a good series? How do you think it would make a good series? Why donít you just write the pilot? How about you just produce the pilot? How about you just get the series up and running?Ē I thought it was a very, very clean way into a network series that a guy who can find anything. Everyone is always looking for a way to do a PI series and no one wants to do a PI series, and I just jumped at the chance to do that.

Casting Geoff was in a way very much like casting Michael Clarke Duncan. I had a darker, quieter more internal character in mind when I first wrote the piece, just someone not as voluble, not someone who was as accessible. Geoff came in for his meeting and I donít know if youíve seen Geoff Stults in person, but heís very tall and ridiculously good looking. And he came through the dooró

G. Stults Go on, go on.

H. Hanson He came in to meet with us. He wasnít going to read. He was going to meet with us and he had his beard. He looked like Mountain Man. And the first thing I thought was, oh, man, I already cast Leo. This guy would have been perfect. About 30 seconds inóthis just sounds like Iím kissing Geoffís butt, you know when youíre with a leading man. Iím an old fart in this business and there are actors and there are leading men and there are leading men who are actors. If you get that number three, you know what, you jump at number two. You get a leading man who canít act, you jump at that guy. You get a leading man who can act and youíd do anything to get them.

And then the third element was that Geoff, heís a very good looking guy, he could just get along on that. Heís self-deprecating. Heís funny and heís goofy when he wants to be. And all of a sudden I started right in that meeting five minutes in I think I grabbed Dan Sackheim, our directing producer on the show, was sitting next to me. I think I grabbed his knee and started squeezing because weíd been casting for a long time and itís a very difficult process. And I just thought this guy is a TV star. He will be funny. I honestly thought he was a mix between Tom Selleck and Timothy Olyphant and what TV guy would not run at him.

So Geoff is right, hearts came out of my eyes and I really wanted him to come and be Walter. And if The Finder doesnít work and Geoff is out of work, I heartily recommend that someone else immediately make him a star. Heís a big TV star.

S. Plummer Nice. And Iíll finish off, Geoff; I know you worked with Michael Clarke Duncan before in D.E.B.S. Can you describe briefly the chemistry between you guys?

G. Stults You mean my twin brother? Iíve known Mike for a long time. We did D.E.B.S. together. He was coming off of a giant thing and I was at that point D.E.B.S. was my biggest job yet. I had no idea what was going on. I didnít even know of really like where to stand or what a DP, I didnít know what a grip was. I didnít know what a DP was. I just knew that there were four hot girls in that movie and I wanted to do it.

So Mike showed me the ropes a little bit. All we did the whole time was laugh like junior high kids; we got separated by the director. We got yelled at for not being able to stop laughing. And once I figured out that I could get him laughing, because he is a Ö, he is a giant kid. He has a giant sense of humor and he likes to laugh. Heís a goof ball and itís the easiest thing in the world to just get him going. And he likes to tease people and I mess with him like he is my big brother. I like to annoy him. Itís like we grew up together and he gets mad and he laughs, so we have a lot of fun.

In a network drama, the days get long and you have to be able to get along with people you work with. And for me, itís just very important for me to laugh and have fun and I want it to be an enjoyable experience from the lowliest day Ö crew member on up to our senior Hart Hanson, and we all have fun and I try to set that tone and heís right there with me. He Ö.

S. Plummer Great, thank you very much.

Moderator Thank you, next weíll hear from the line of Sheldon Wiebe with Go ahead, please.

S. Wiebe Hello, guys, thanks for doing this. Iím one of the people who thoroughly enjoyed the backdoor pilot on Bones and was a bit sad when I heard that Saffron Burrows wasnít being carried over to the series. I liked the characters that you have in her place, the Deputy U.S. Marshal and the probationary juvenile delinquent. I think they have a lot of potential. But it seems like they donít quite have the same zing, and Iím thinking that theyíre going to be developed a little bit differently than anything weíve probably seen before. Iím wondering, this is kind of a nit pick, but how is a probationary juvenile delinquent working in a bar? Wouldnít that be kind of a no-no?

H. Hanson It comes up quite often in the series, youíll be glad to know, is like what she is and is not allowed to do in a drinking establishment that serves food.

S. Wiebe That was actually what I was going to ask.

H. Hanson Yes, she canít serve drinks, but she can serve food and she canít go behind the bar and we actually make a huge deal of the fact that she canít go behind the bar for two reasons. This is boring already. Iím being boring, but two reasons. One is legally she canít be back where the alcohol is poured and the other is Leo doesnít want her anywhere near the cash register. And her probation officer is quite vigilant about making sure that sheóher probation officer would love to see her back in juvie and so poor Willa has toówell, poor Willa, she lies a lot, she deserves what she gets, but she has to watch her Ps and Qs very carefully, so we are trying very hard to be within the realm.

I worked on Judging Amy, so that would be a whole arc in the story, Judging Amy. Iím not sure itís as interesting to the audience of The Finder.

S. Wiebe Oh, cool, that was exactly what I was getting at. Also something that really struck me and that I really liked is the way that Walter makes no bones about the fact that if youíre going to look for something that may lead to learning stuff that the client would rather not have ever known and we get to see how that happens in the premiere in a very dramatic way. Which leads me to ask how do you balance, like this is a fun show in the tradition of itís not exactly like Bones. How do you find the right mix of light and dark to make the show fun, but at the same time keep the stakes seeming real?

H. Hanson You just put your thumb on the gaping open wound of our everyday existence on The Finder. Itís a juggling. Itís a tough go and we have tons of debate about almost every scene at every level. Is this working? If you raise the stakes too much, does it make this scene not funny anymore? How much lightheartedness can you get away with before the story becomes too light to sustain over 43 minutes? All I can tell you is itís what we wrestle with on The Finder.

We always had the equivalent on Bones, too. For example, we found out in the first season of Bones, that if the remains were of a child, you werenít going to have a very funny episode and in The Finder there are certain moments.

And youíll tell us at the end of 13 episodes if we were successful in juggling a sentimental and melancholy or dramatic scenes with the lightheartedness of our characters trying to find things. But if we do this right, and I hope we are in every episode, people find things they donít want to find, and thatís the world Walter lives in. And thatís why heís a bit callous about it. People think they want something, but they donít. They want something else and heís always blundering into that. Heís very literal.

K. Kurland Unfortunately we only have time for one more question.

Moderator Thank you and that will come from the line of Stephanie Holland with Inscaped. Go ahead, please.

S. Holland Hello, thanks for talking to us this morning.

H. Hanson Hi, Stephanie.

S. Holland Iím wondering one of thing fans love so much about Bones is the creative way that you always have people end up dead. And Iím wondering if that creativity has carried over to The Finder in some of the cases that you guys are working on.

H. Hanson Well, I hope so. An ongoing discussion with the network has often been ďwhat starts the case?Ē Iím a big fan of having a guy come into the bar carrying Cinderellaís shoe and saying, ďI have to find Cinderella,Ē and it leading somewhere else.

Another of our stories starts with a magician coming in and saying, ďIíve lost my lovely assistant. My lovely assistant actually disappeared during my trick. You have to find my lovely assistant,Ē and it taking a fast left turn into some other world. I think thatís the equivalent, if there is such a thing, between The Finder and Bones.

G. Stults Thatís a whole new show itself. I like that.

H. Hanson I hope so is the answer, I hope we do.

S. Wiebe Okay, great thank you.

G. Stults Thank you.

K. Kurland Dave, I think we can wrap it up there.

Moderator Okay, thank you, any closing comments, gentlemen?

G. Stults Hart, youíre doing a great job, close. I would just want to say on behalf of Finder and Bones, that we appreciate you guys writing about it and weíre excited for six days from now, I guess, to the premiere that will change television as we know it.

H. Hanson Thatís a very good statement. Thanks for being interested, everyone.

G. Stults Yes, thanks a lot.

Moderator Thank you very much. And ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our conference for today. We appreciate your participation and your using AT&T Executive TeleConference.

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