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By
Suzanne
Interview with Matthew Rhys of "The
Americans" on
FX 1/26/15
This is another good one I missed from being sick. Sounds
like it was a great and interesting conference call. You
should definitely read it because it has a lot of humor.
I've spoken with him before, and he has a wonderful Welsh
accent that you're not expecting if you've only heard him on
his shows.
Final Transcript
FX NETWORK: The Americans
January 26, 2015/11:00 a.m. PST
SPEAKERS
Allyson Barkan
Matthew Rhys
PRESENTATION
Moderator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by
and welcome to The Americans conference call. At this time,
all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will
conduct a question and answer session. Instructions will be
given at that time. (Operator instructions.) As a reminder,
this conference is being recorded.
I would now like to turn the conference over to our host,
Ms. Allyson Barkan. Please go ahead.
Allyson: Hello and welcome to The Americans conference call
with series star Matthew Rhys. I’d like to thank everyone
for joining us today and remind you that this call is for
print purposes only. No audio may be used.
The Americans third season premiere is this Wednesday,
January 28th at 10:00 p.m. EST only on FX. As always, we
respectfully request that you do not post spoilers pre-air
to help protect the viewing experience for our audience.
With that said, let’s go ahead and take our first question.
Moderator: (Operator instructions.) We’ll go to the line of
Earl Dittman. Please go ahead.
Earl: Good morning, Matthew. How are you doing?
Matthew: Very well, thank you. How are you?
Earl: Doing fantastic. I have to say, I’m blown away by this
season already. Just when I think you all couldn’t get any
more exciting, incredibly, you all do it.
Matthew: Good.
Earl: Really brilliant. So for you now being in season three,
what has still been the most challenging part? Since you
have to play several characters, actually, being the spy,
what has been the most challenging part and which is really
maybe the easier part of playing him?
Matthew: I’m still figuring out if there is indeed an easy
part to playing him. I suppose the more enjoyable is that he
continues to be as layered and rich and complex as he has
been from the beginning.
The harder part for me is to land him in a place of reality,
somewhere that’s real for me and hopefully real for an
audience in that someone who has to juggle, in its
reference, and keep as many sort of plates in the air as
Philip does, but sort of the pressure that that would bring,
it’s landing that in a real place. For me, it’s the sort of
hardest balancing act.
Earl: Yes. Yes. Well, again, it’s brilliant already. I can’t
wait until the rest of the season. Thank you so much.
Matthew: Thank you.
Moderator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Andrea
Morabito with New York Post. Please go ahead.
Andrea: Hello, Matthew.
Matthew: Hello.
Andrea: At the end of last season we got the big news that
the center is going to be trying to recruit Elizabeth and
Philip’s daughter Paige and we see that this is going to set
up a conflict between the two parents as Elizabeth seems to
be more open to this idea of their daughter becoming a spy
than Philip is. Can you talk about how that conflict is
going to affect their marriage and affect the family in
season three?
Matthew: Yes, it’s sort of the predominant and overriding arc
for Philip and Elizabeth during this season, which is this
enormous conflict between them that sets them poles apart,
really, as they come from two opposing sides as to what
should be done about Paige. Really, the entire season is
that grapple and that wrestle between the two as they thrash
it out.
Andrea: I mean, what do you think is Philip’s sort of
driving, what’s driving his belief that he really wants to
keep his daughter out of this business?
Matthew: I think a number of things. I think, ultimately, as
we’ve seen a flashback in one and two, Philip and Elizabeth
were children when they were picked, you know? They were in
late teenage years and I think heavily indoctrinated.
Really, you look back at your own age, you’re not very sure
who you are at that time. He’s found himself in a vocation
that he really didn’t choose in a way; I think it was kind
of chosen for him in a way, thrust upon him, and he’s
evolving at a time and bursting out at a time when he
realized it probably isn’t the life that he would have
chosen nor is it the life he wants, and the same applies
heavily for his daughter.
He doesn’t want her pushed into something at such a young,
vulnerable, impressionable age whereby in a few years she’s
in up over her head because it’s not something you just –
it’s not a job you can quit overnight or walk away from and
he doesn’t want her to have to do the many awful things that
he has to do in order to stay alive and, therefore, keep the
family alive.
Andrea: Great. Thank you.
Moderator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Kara
Howland with TV Goodness. Please go ahead.
Kara: Hello, Matthew. How are you?
Matthew: Very well. How are you?
Kara: I’m good. We meet Gabriel in the season three premiere.
Can you talk a little bit about working with Frank Langella
and what’s coming up with him?
Matthew: Yes. It’s sort of like having a silverback gorilla
come onto the set in the best way possible. He’s this
dominant, physical, mental, emotional, presence that kind of
stiffens and straightens everyone’s back and lifts
everyone’s game, certainly. He comes with this – the premise
in which they set him, him being influential and
instrumental in the training of Philip and Elizabeth is sort
of great because it gives you instant history that he just
does effortlessly. He has this commanding presence that
builds a great conflict between them all.
Working with him has been fantastic as he turned up with
this natural presence and he is ready to listen, he’s ready
to play, and he plays at a very high standard, which makes
it exciting for us.
Kara: Great. Can you talk a little bit about what’s coming up
with him this season?
Matthew: Yes. In the same way I think Philip feels a little
isolated in the fact that Frank and Elizabeth, Gabriel and
Elizabeth are obviously the more staunch diehards of the
party and the mission and the party come before anything
else, and he’s very onboard for bringing Paige into the fold
whereas Philip isn’t and feels a great sense of betrayal. I
think Philip – well, I don’t think, what happens is Philip
is isolated from the two of them and feels betrayed, and
that is sort of the bigger arc for him and Gabriel, that
sort of sense of betrayal and conflict in the fact that he
doesn’t want his daughter to follow his footsteps.
Kara: Okay, great. Thank you so much.
Moderator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line
of Cicely Dyson with Speak Easy for Wall Street Journal.
Please go ahead.
Cicely: Hello, Matthew. How are you?
Matthew: Very well. How are you?
Cicely: I’m good. I have kind of a couple questions following
up on what you said about not wanting Paige to go into the
life, basically, at such a young and impressionable age.
What do you think it would take to change Philip’s mind, or
do you think that he’s staunch in his belief that Paige
should not follow in her parents’ footsteps?
Matthew: I think he’s absolutely immovable in that respect.
There’s nothing on God’s green earth that could make him
acquiesce to the fact that she should join the KGB or,
indeed, the intelligence world.
Cicely: What do you think changed Philip’s mind about being
an officer and how it would affect – I mean, you say you
don’t want her, you say Paige is young and impressionable,
but she’s going into the church and she’s becoming, she’s
following that religious life and how that’s her at a young
and impressionable age. What do you think makes the
difference for Philip in between those two lives?
Matthew: Well, if you look at the lives, really, when they’re
killing people and having sex with them for intelligence as
opposed to a sort of – yes, it’s secular in one way, but
ultimately it’s a communal, supportive group that has a
strong belief, which is the same, but there’s no risk of
being killed or hurt or imprisoned as a direct result of
your job. I think there’s great responsibility, there’s
great guilt, I think, on Philip and Elizabeth’s part as she
joined the church group because if you notice – well you
don’t even notice – is blatantly obvious. They’ve been
absent parents in their children’s lives up until this
point, and it’s a very real reason why she’s sort of sought
that support and that comfort from a group elsewhere. I
think children tend to find the rebellion of the opposition
of what their parents want. For them, it was the church.
Given the choice, this could be anything like any teenage
had. In a couple years’ time she might say, “That wasn’t for
me,” and then you know, no harm done whereas I’m sure to
join the KGB or anything related in that sense, that’s it.
Once you’re in, that’s it. There’s no turning back.
Cicely: Thank you.
Moderator: Thank you. (Operator instructions.) We will go to
the line of Brandon Rowe with Spoiler TV. Please go ahead.
Brandon: Hello, Matthew.
Matthew: Hello.
Brandon: I have a question from one of my readers that I
thought was particularly interesting. We’ve seen a pretty
major difference between who Philip is as a spy and also who
he wants to be as a person. Do you think it’s possible that
the character of Clark is actually closer to who Philip sees
himself as outside of the spy world?
Matthew: That’s a very good question. I would agree. Yes, I
think he’s arrived at a place in his life where it’s exactly
what he does want. He does want a sort of domestic
contentment. He wants a simpler life within a healthy
working relationship where there’s sort of mutual respect.
And yes, there’s a large element of Clark and Martha that
serves that.
Brandon: As a follow-up, I want to touch on something we see
in the first set of episodes here where Philip is forced to
approach a girl practically the same age as Paige. I wanted
to know how you thought that affected his ongoing argument
with Elizabeth and the KGB about age.
Matthew: Well, I think it serves a point [indiscernible]. As
conflicted as he is, because he’s deeply, deeply upset by
the mandates of this particular operation, I think he finds
it incredibly disturbing for the simple reason that he does
have a child the same age, but it reiterates the fact that
this girl is, just purely by association being the daughter
of a CIA, she’s put in harm’s way by people like him and I
think he hopes it reiterates to Elizabeth the sort of danger
she would be placed under if she were to come into this mad
world.
Brandon: Fantastic. Thank you.
Matthew: Thank you.
Moderator: Thank you. We will now go to the line of Renee
Macek with Voiceoftv.com. Please go ahead.
Renee: Hello, Matthew. Thank you so much for speaking with us
today.
Matthew: No problem.
Renee: We’ve seen Philip and Elizabeth do some pretty
excruciating things, some horrible things for their country.
At this point do you think that there’s anywhere that they
would draw the line, that there’s something that they just
wouldn’t do?
Matthew: I mean, it was pretty tough for Philip to agree to
sort of follow-on with the operation and the seduction of
this 15-year-old and I think that would have got
[indiscernible]. I think if for some reason there was an
order to come through to sort of harm or terminate a minor,
then I would imagine that would be something that he
probably wouldn’t carry out.
Renee: Right, right. Well, thanks very much.
Matthew: You’re welcome.
Moderator: Thank you. We will now go to the line of Justine
Browning with Latino Review. Please go ahead.
Justine: Hello, there. I was thinking, really, in the first
episode this season we see that Philip actually has a more
pragmatic approach to the deaths that are around him. Last
season we saw how he sort of derailed emotionally because of
that, so I was wondering if you could talk a little bit
about that shift.
Matthew: I think it was a combination of things that came to
a head last year with a number of – you know, Philip has
kind of sat on so many enormous emotions for so long that it
basically built and built and built and it erupted in that
moment with Paige. Paige has been on the receiving end of
it. It’s all about Paige but nothing to do with Paige, you
know what I mean, but she received the wrath of it.
I think in a sense, in some ways it was a minor breakdown on
Philip’s behalf that he’s now recovered from and he has some
distance and some perspective on it and realizes that it’s
just now something he has to accept. It affected him
enormously up until that point. Since then, he’s begun to
kind of, you know, he viciously disagrees with it but he
accepts it now as a part, as a bigger picture. It’s
basically to keep himself, his wife and his family alive and
then it’s a necessary, an enormous necessary evil in that
greater picture.
Justine: Great. Thank you.
Matthew: You’re welcome.
Moderator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line
of AJ Grillo with Scifivision.com. Please go ahead.
AJ: Hello, Matthew. Thanks for joining us today.
Matthew: No problem.
AJ: You and Elizabeth have played a lot of different
characters, different disguises. What was your favorite one
to play?
Matthew: My favorite one is a guy that I nicknamed Fernando.
He has long shoulder-length hair and a moustache and
sometimes a little goatee and usually works as a sort of
janitor figure or whatever, whatever’s needed. He was my
sort of, he’s been my favorite I think just because of the
elaborate backstory I’ve given him as a flamenco dancing
assassin.
AJ: Also, Paige was joining that church and Philip and
Elizabeth weren’t crazy about it and ultimately it was a bit
of a sham, but do you think Philip saw any connection
between what he went through with the KGB and could see the
similarities in this church, which is why they were so
against it?
Matthew: Yes. I think Philip and Elizabeth both suffered from
absent parents in one respect or the other and Russia being
what it was at that time and they’re sort of having
doctrination of what communism was and it being the only way
and the right way at a very young, impressionable age, then
yes, all those types [ph] align and make for a sort of
perfect party member. I think the same has happened for
Paige. She’s suffered enormously from two very absent
parents and has sought the sort of comfort and light and
guidance from elsewhere.
AJ: Thank you.
Matthew: No worries.
Moderator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line
of Laura Dengrove with Pop-Break.com. Please go ahead.
Laura: Hello, Matthew. How are you doing today?
Matthew: Very well, thank you. How are you?
Laura: I’m pretty good. I was wondering, out of either a two
series – the two-year run that your series has had, what is
your favorite episode you’ve played so far?
Matthew: I think possibly the favorite was that one where – I
can’t remember what it’s called – but it’s where Philip,
where you referenced earlier, kind of erupts in a way at
Paige and tears up a Bible. To me, it was one of the most
human moments for someone who’s had to deal with all of this
throughout his entire life and we watched for two seasons
the buildup and the culmination of so, so much. What I loved
was the fact that for once, we see it released, we see it
come out and we see it have its effect.
For that reason, it is rare because I think in the series we
do tend to – emotions do have to be bottled for various
reasons and it was just so good to finally air something so
deeply entrenched in Philip’s psyche.
Laura: Alright, thank you.
Matthew: No worries.
Moderator: Thank you. We’ll go to the line of Kara Howland
with TV Goodness. Please go ahead.
Kara: Hey, Matthew. It’s me again. I wanted to follow-up on
an earlier question about how Philip is dealing with kind of
death this season. When Annelise gets killed in the premiere
episode we see him recover or maybe even use that
opportunity to his advantage. What are we going to see going
forward with the Yousaf storyline?
Moderator: Matthew’s back on the line.
Matthew: Hello.
Allyson: Hello.
Matthew: Hello.
Moderator: Hello. One moment, let me get everyone back.
Matthew: Help us.
Moderator: We are all connected to the conference.
Matthew: Hello. There’s a terrible blizzard in New York. I’m
sorry. I’m dropping calls left, right and center.
Moderator: What we’ll do is we’ll go back to the line of
Laura Dengrove with Pop-Break.com.
Matthew: Fabulous.
Moderator: Ms. Dengrove, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Laura: Hello, Matthew.
Matthew: Laura. We are truly falling apart.
Laura: I’m experiencing the blizzard as well. What are you
most excited about for season three? Anything upcoming that
you can kind of talk about that you’re really excited about?
Matthew: Yes. To me, what was always exciting was when I
first read the first pilot of this, at its heart, the most
alluring for me was this incredibly complex relationship, at
its heart, and how that would resolve and manifest itself,
and that’s what’s always of interest to me. I think this
year, the scene, the conflict between Philip and Elizabeth
about Paige, it’s sort of the more extreme version of what
so many marriages and relationships go through in the
raising of children. It’s the absolute conflict that
interests me, like how it will resolve itself and the very
rocky journey of getting there.
Laura: Thank you.
Moderator: Thank you. (Operator instructions.) We will go to
the line of Kara Howland with TV Goodness. Please go ahead.
Kara: Hello, Matthew. We got cut off earlier, so I’m sorry if
you have answered this already. It was my question about how
Philip is dealing with death and his storyline with Yousaf.
Matthew: Yes, yes, yes, yes. Sorry, what was your question?
We were cruelly torn apart by this blizzard.
Kara: Okay. I’m basically wondering, now that Annelise is out
of the picture, you seem to very quickly go with the flow
and use that to your advantage. I was just wondering what’s
going to happen with your storyline with Yousaf this season.
Matthew: To be perfectly honest, I don’t know where it’s
going because it’s resolved in the last three episodes,
which we haven’t received yet. It’s as much of a surprise –
you know he kind of gets in and out of the season but
nothing of substance in kind of – he checks in with Philip
and Philip keeps pushing him for information.
The true resolve of what will happen, is to happen is in the
last three, which we haven’t received yet, so time will
tell. I’m sorry I can’t be any more specific than that.
Kara: Okay. How does your character deal with her death and
how do we see that kind of play out over the next few
episodes?
Matthew: I’m afraid to say. There’s so much other stuff going
on that the resolve isn’t on camera. I mean, it’s like all
deaths and it affects him deeply and you like, the eruption
of – leading to it, it kind of tends to seed and plant
itself deeply with Philip and then usually the effect takes
hold much later.
Kara: Okay. Okay, great. Thank you so much.
Matthew: No worries.
Moderator: Thank you. We’ll go to the line of Cicely Dyson
with Speak Easy for Wall Street Journal. Please go ahead.
Cicely: Hello. It’s me again.
Matthew: Hello.
Cicely: This season Philip and Elizabeth are extremely
focused on Paige now that the center has kind of zoned in on
her as being a recruit, but do you think that all this
attention that they’re focusing on Paige is affecting Henry
in some kind of way? Like, there was his breaking and
entering last season and this season he’s hoarding bikini
photos of his neighbor and there’s no telling what else he’s
going to do. Do you think that all this attention on Paige
is just going to kind of come back to them with Henry?
Matthew: I do, I do. There’s this kind of deliberate sort of
silent watching and listening from Henry throughout the
season, I’m very interested as to how that will manifest
itself in him. It’s clearly that kind of absence he feels
and the sort of dysfunction and the distance, I’m sure he
feels will have to sort of come out in some way, form or
another. I look forward to seeing that.
Cicely: Has that affected the season just yet?
Matthew: Not yet. It’s still kind of bubbling along.
Cicely: Okay. Thank you.
Matthew: No worries.
Moderator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line
of Benjamin Lindsay with Rotten Tomatoes. Please go ahead.
Benjamin Hello there, Matthew. I was watching the Screen
Actors Guild Awards last night and something that I couldn’t
help but notice is that each time the television actors got
up to accept an award and started speaking, they thank the
writers of the show. Just listening to you speaking this
afternoon, it’s obvious that you are passionate about this
character, passionate about this series. Could you speak at
all on your affinity for this script and kind of what your
relationship is like and this new plot going on with Paige
and everything?
Matthew: Yes. You know, I’ve always said television is the
absolute writers medium and there’s a reason we’re in the
golden age of television. It’s because the writing in this
day and age is so incredibly good and never more so than in
our show, where as I’ve said time and time again, the
layering, the complexity of what they give us to play is so
enormously interesting and difficult and challenging and
dynamic. We thank them a lot as well. Sadly, we didn’t have
the platform at the SAG Awards.
Benjamin: Specifically in terms of this plot with Paige, I
couldn’t help but think of a series like Homeland where it
seems like they kind of falter in focusing too much on the
children, so what do you think this season does right in
kind of giving your children on the series such pests when
it comes to the actual part of the show?
Matthew: I think there’s sort of the focus of children taken
in any family situation or dynamic is enormous and so much
of people’s lives are geared towards being good parents and
doing the right thing. I think it’s those universal themes
that help us and really ground it in a way and make it that
much more real, I hope.
Benjamin: Excellent. Well, thank you so much.
Matthew: No worries.
Moderator: Thank you. (Operator instructions.) We will go to
the line of Justine Browning with Latino Review. Please go
ahead.
Justine: I was wondering, when we see the flashback
sequences, their lives before they joined the KGB, which
they’re not supposed to really acknowledge, but over the
last few seasons we’ve seen that there’s been a shift in
that. We don’t really get a glimpse of Philip’s early life.
He’s touched on it a bit and I was just wondering, is that
something we’re going to see more of or do you personally
have a backstory as an actor for that?
Matthew: I do have a backstory for it which sort of helps me
in the way I kind of create my world for Philip. I don’t
think it is, not this season, because this season is very
much Elizabeth’s and the relationship with her mother, which
you know, obviously parallels and mirrors that with Paige
and the way it informs the relationship with Paige. That’s a
great focused moment.
God willing, if we do get a fourth season then maybe we’ll
see some of Philip’s more miss-spent psychedelic days.
Justine: Thank you.
Moderator: Thank you. (Operator instructions.) We will go to
the line of Earl Dittman with Digital Journal. Please go
ahead.
Earl: Hello, Matthew. It’s me again.
Matthew: Hello.
Earl: In what ways would you say that Philip is very much
like you as a person and in what ways is he just not like –
or are you just not like him at all? I mean, do you embody
some of the same things?
Matthew: Absolutely, absolutely. I’ve always appraised any
character I approach with – basically, the characteristics
should be built up of myself. I’m always interested in the
truth of the character and the way I bring a truth to the
character to make him, I hate to say, but it’s your own make
up that you bring to the character. It’s rare that you see
anyone play a great extremity [ph] in this day and age
because actors really haven’t given the opportunity to be –
only the big stars get to have the chameleon stretches that
they want, but more often than not you’re kind of cast in
the way that you are. More often than not, I think with
television writing, as the first season unfolds, writers
will tend to start writing to your own characteristics.
I think in that respect, when things evolve, naturally they
see the family orientation and the rest of it, the more
humanity of Philip. I like to think that those are
characteristics that I share heavily with him, the same kind
of hatred of the deaths that happen. There’s a lot of me in
Philip, even though I’m watching now.
Earl: Yes. Well, also, I have to say, Philip gets laid more
than any television character I’ve ever seen.
Matthew: That’s based on my life as well.
Earl: As an actor, though, does it get any easier doing sex
scenes or those types of scenes?
Matthew: No. It never gets comfortable.
Earl: Really?
Matthew: It never gets to a point where – no – you go, “Oh,
this is normal, this is natural,” you’re simulating sex with
40 of your closest friends. It’s bizarre, the random
bizarreness of it. Then it’s magnified when you have to do
the gymnastics of the Kama Sutra as well.
It’s never – I’d answer with never. It’s not close to a
place where I can go, “Oh, great, another sex scene. That
will be normal.” It’s the opposite for me.
Earl: The Kama Sutra thing was pretty good, though. Did you
have to practice a lot for it?
Matthew: Well, we didn’t. We didn’t. However, we did suffer
for it. There was a lot of pulled tendons and cramping
because you’re on one foot trying to balance basically.
Earl: Yikes. Well, thank you so much. Again, thanks for –
it’s already a fantastic season. I can’t wait to see more.
Thank you so much for being so great in it.
Matthew: Thank you. Thanks for saying so.
Earl: I appreciate it.
Moderator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Cicely
Dyson, Speak Easy for Wall Street Journal. Please go ahead.
Cicely: Hello. The character of Martha is determined to have
a future with Clark despite all the warning signs of him not
being available and they’re keeping their marriage a secret
and they don’t live together. He’s obviously pumping her for
information. Do you think that – how much longer do you
think that this ruse can last, this fake marriage with
Martha constantly questioning their future together, wanting
to foster a child and eventually have one of their own?
Matthew: I think Philip is very aware that it can’t sustain
itself. He can’t keep at arm’s length and fobbing [ph] her
off and leading her down a certain garden path about having
children and the rest of it when really, I think it affects
him enormously, the sort of playing with her emotions, but I
think he knows full well that it’s like his life in a way.
It can’t sustain itself and ultimately, something will have
to give, and more often than not, undoubtedly, it will be
with relatively disastrous consequences.
Cicely: That’s unfortunate. I like Martha.
Matthew: I know. I think I, as has Philip, have enormous
compassion and empathy for Martha. It manifests itself in
the great guilt as to the puppeting of someone’s feelings
and journey in life.
Cicely: Thank you.
Matthew: Thank you.
Moderator: Thank you. We will now go to the line of AJ Grillo
with Scifivision.com. Please go ahead.
AJ: Hello again, Matthew. Nobody knows where the show’s
ultimately going to go, but since in your personal opinion
the way things have gone and knowing the character of Philip
and Elizabeth, do you think towards the show’s end, which is
hopefully many years from now, do you think it’s more likely
that they’ll get captured and possibly killed or do you
think there’s a chance that they could actually defect?
Matthew: My hope is that they do defect. Philip mentioned
that in the first episode of the first season. I think
that’s something that remained with him very closely until
now and that’s really the absolute only way he could
guarantee the safe future of his children. To me, I would
love to see them defect.
AJ: Do you think Elizabeth would go for that, though? She
seems to be closer to Mother Russia than Philip.
Matthew: There would have to be sort of unmitigated sets of
circumstances whereby it would be a deal that if they didn’t
they would go to prison for the rest of their lives, the
kids would be put in a foster home, or that they could
become double agents. Then it begs the question, does
Elizabeth then become a triple agent?
Story-wise dramaturgically, I think it offers an enormous
amount.
AJ: Thank you.
Matthew: Thank you.
Moderator: Thank you. We’ll go to the line of Earl Dittman,
Digital Journal. Please go ahead.
Earl: Excuse my ignorance, but do you sometimes Twitter
during television, during the show sometimes, live Twitter?
Matthew: I don’t, never. I never have done it. I’m not a big
Twitterer.
Earl: Not a big social media guy?
Matthew: I’m not. I’m a little bit of a Luddite. I still use
pen and paper as often as possible.
Earl: What do you think of that phenomenon, though? A lot of
shows do it.
Matthew: They do, and I understand it and can see the beast
it’s become. It’s now the beast no one can do without. I
have to admit, I’m not a fan of it. I don’t, it doesn’t push
my buttons, but it’s a necessary evil in this day and age.
Earl: I think it takes away from the show while you’re
watching the show. I can’t do it because I’m trying to watch
the show and see what’s going on.
Matthew: Yes. No, the live tweeting I totally disagree with
because I think in that sense the way sometimes they ask
actors to do TV spots with it kind of not being the
character and it more being themselves, I think it’s a sort
of ludicrous notion to me because I think especially with
our show, you ask the audience to go on quite a fantastical
journey. It’s a big ask of them, of their imaginations to go
with you. I think things like live Tweeting and things like
that, what you’re doing is you’re sort of popping yourself
out of that fantasy back into reality and telling the
audience that you’re an actor playing a part. The suspension
of that belief I think becomes harder or the chasm becomes a
greater jump. I don’t think it aids you in any way.
Also, I’m just a bit more old school. I just want to watch
it uninterrupted.
Earl: Did you work on anything else during your hiatus? Do
you have anything else coming out this year?
Matthew: I did. I did a movie in France with a great director
called Christian Carion. It was a Second World War movie. He
was Oscar nominated for a First World War movie he did, and
that’s being scored by [indiscernible] as we speak. It’ll be
out in the summer.
Then I did a little movie for Harvey – not a little movie.
I’m sorry, I played a small part in a Harvey Weinstein movie
with Bradley Cooper where we play rival chefs.
Earl: What’s the name of that?
Matthew: It has a working title at the moment of Adam Jones,
which is the main character, but I’m not sure if it’s going
to be the final title.
Earl: Yes. Well, that sounds fantastic. So we have more of
you coming up this year.
Matthew: I’m sorry to say you have.
Earl: Well, don’t get frozen in in New York because it’s
looking nasty on television. I hope you don’t get too cold
or too frozen up.
Matthew: No. Yes, I’m looking out the window now. It’s really
bad out there.
Earl: Really bad. Well, take care. Be careful.
Matthew: Thank you very much.
Moderator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line
of Darwyn Carson of Leonardmaltin.com. Please go ahead.
Darwyn: Hello. I have a question for you that involves
falling in love with Elizabeth. I always felt from the first
season when it shows Philip initially ripping the picture in
two of the young girl right before he meets Elizabeth, I
always felt that there was something about that that
connected him to her emotionally from the very beginning.
Would you say that Philip fell in love with her from the
moment he saw her or was he just more open to it because he
was obviously more open to it being real than she was?
Matthew: No, I’m a romantic in that sense. I do think that he
fell in love with her in the beginning. Yes, so yes is the
short answer.
I think he is emotionally a lot more available and open, and
that doesn’t serve him well in this business at times.
Darwyn: Is it harder for him to shut that down than when he
has to go into the field?
Matthew: It is, it is. I think it takes its toll sort of deep
down with Philip. I think it does affect him and as we’ve
seen, it’s a problem that comes back. It’s sort of the
return of the repressed. It comes back to haunt him.
Darwyn: Just one more question. Because you get to play so
many variety of character roles and you do so many different
sort of choice [audio disruption] in this job would you
consider this your dream role? If not, what has been your
dream role?
Matthew: No, I’d say this was my dream role. As a sort of box
ticker for actors, I don’t think you could get better than
this. It’s been a real dream. As I said, the layering, the
complexity of it keeps getting deeper and more varied.
There’s no danger at all of it ever becoming dull or
repetitive. It’s incredibly challenging and dynamic. It’s
everything you want or ever wanted to do in one part.
Darwyn: Thank you so much.
Matthew: Thank you.
Moderator: Thank you. We will now go to the line of Virginia
Rohan with The Record Newspaper. Please go ahead.
Virginia: Hello, Matthew. Thanks so much for doing this.
Holly Taylor lives in our readership area and I was just
wanting to ask you, we know how pivotal a role Paige has now
and working with Holly, can you talk a little bit about
that?
Matthew: First off, and I always hate it when actors do this,
but with regard to her I can say with absolute sincerity
she’s one of the sweetest, nicest, most sincere people I’ve
ever had the fortune to meet, but it’s true. I think it
serves her incredibly well because what it brings to her
part, and especially with these storylines, is an incredible
sense of truth.
Virginia: Right.
Matthew: She has sort of enormous sincerity and truth and
virtue in her performances and that was sort of influenced
by who she is as a person. I think it lends itself amazingly
well to her performances and she’s incredible all around.
There isn’t anything she really can’t do in many
[indiscernible] of this crazy business. If you have the
opportunity to talk to her you should ask her to rap for
you.
Virginia: Rap? R-A-P?
Matthew: Yes.
Virginia: Is she good at that?
Matthew: Incredible.
Virginia: That’s good to know. We’ll have to ask her to do
that. I heard a story that she had a little trouble in one
scene where she had to use a 1980s telephone and she was
using both thumbs, so that was one of the only ways in which
she needed some instruction as to how to dial an old-time
telephone.
Matthew: The one element of this show that depresses the hell
out of me is when the kids sometimes will bring something up
and go, “What is this?” and you go, “Oh, my god.” I was a
child of the ‘80s and you know, they ask what the VCR or the
telephone is. They go, “My god, these things – look at this
remote control, it’s like, oh, gosh.” And you’re like, “Oh,
shut up, kid.”
Virginia: That’s wonderful. Thank you so much, Matthew.
Matthew: Thank you.
Moderator: Thank you. We will now go to the line of Justine
Browning, Latino Review. Please go ahead.
Justine: I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about
the complexity between Philip and Elizabeth? It seems that
they have so far this season, early on, are really
interesting because there’s a lot of, there’s an
antagonistic element to it, but then episode three about
there’s a way that it kind of comes to the surface, this
sensuality, within a very gruesome scene. I don’t want to
give anything away, but I was wondering if you could talk a
little bit about playing that.
Matthew: Yes, in episode – I’m trying to think. Did you say
in episode three it comes to a head?
Justine: Yes.
Matthew: In a gruesome – yes, yes, of course. Yes. It’s this
dance that they have perennially. Their relationship and
life together is so complex that it’s gymnastic in a way
that it can leap from something incredibly domestic as to do
with the kids’ school and then to do with a mission and then
the killing or disposing of a body. They jump these huge
caverns, these leaps, varied and often and that’s true of
their emotional life. Also, they only have each other in
this situation. There’s no one else they could turn to.
There’s no one else who can empathize or sympathize like the
other one can. Therefore, in that respect, they’re sort of
beholden and dependent on each other.
It makes for this amazing relationship whereby they need
each other, but they antagonize each other enormously and
they fight and they’re poles apart at times, but ultimately,
knowing that they absolutely will always need each other, so
it makes for incredibly interesting play. What happens in
those moments whereby their life is so extreme, whereby they
have to do these things like the scene you’ve referenced,
it’s only, I think in their relationship, and only their
relationship that can happen when it becomes something else.
It almost becomes this gruesome thing, becomes almost an act
of love, and therefore, something incredibly sensual to the
two of them, if that makes sense.
Justine: Great. Thank you. Great scene. Really
[indiscernible], of course.
Matthew: Yes.
Moderator: Thank you. Our final question comes from the line
of Earl Dittman, Digital Journal. Please go ahead.
Earl: The final one, okay.
Matthew: Make it a good one, Earl.
Earl: Make it good. Now the pressure’s on me.
Matthew: No pressure.
Earl: Okay, a real quick one. What do you watch on
television? What are you watching right now? What are your
favorite shows?
Matthew: I have to be honest. When we shoot the season I
rarely watch anything. In fact, I’ll kind of watch the Oscar
movies and documentaries and that’s about it. Then when the
season comes down I will then binge-watch whatever’s been
the hype of the time we’ve been shooting. I did Breaking Bad
and Homeland and all that and The Wire, all the big ones. I
do want to see The Affair when we finish. I’m interested in
seeing that. I have to catch up on Boardwalk Empire. There’s
a lot ahead of me, but sadly, nothing at the moment. At the
moment I think it’s because I deal so much with TV and
fiction, I have a real thing – I love to watch documentaries
during the season while we shoot, so I’ve been pouring
through those.
Earl: The real stuff.
Matthew: I know, the real life. You kind of go oh, yes, this.
Earl: That’s how it works.
Matthew: Yes, I’ve heard of this.
Earl: One last thing, finally. I just forgot the question
then. The pressure was on. Now I know what you go through.
There are a lot of unfortunate people who don’t watch.
They’re unfortunate because they don’t watch this. Why
should people watch The Americans? What sets it apart
besides the actual story line?
Matthew: To me, I think it’s just an extreme version of life
and I think whenever you watch something, that you’re
reassured that other people are as fallible as you. I think
we take comfort in it and I think that’s why we kind of
sustained ourselves for three seasons. That we’re universal.
It’s an extreme version of human life, which makes it
dramaturgically more interesting I think to watch. That’s
why I’d watch it. I know I appreciate that’s not much of a
sound bite. It can be very difficult to put as a
sub-heading, but that’s my take.
Earl: It works for me. Thanks again. I appreciate you taking
the time today. I think we all do. Thanks so much.
Matthew: Not at all. Thank you all.
Moderator: Thank you. Speaker, please go ahead.
Allyson: Thank you so much to everyone for joining us today,
and especially Matthew Rhys. We greatly appreciate your
time. As a reminder, the third season of The Americans
premieres this Wednesday, January 28th at 10:00 p.m. only on
FX. You may now disconnect.
Moderator: Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our
conference for today. Thank you for your participation and
for using AT&T Executive Teleconference.
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