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Suzanne
Interview with Breckin Meyer of "Franklin & Bash"
on TNT 5/10/11.
TURNER ENTERTAINMENT
Moderator: Chrissie Eckhardt
May 10, 2011
2:40 pm CT
Operator: Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Turner Entertainment
Hosted Breckin Meyer, Franklin & Bash conference call. Today’s
conference is being recorded. At this time, I’ll turn the conference
over to your host, Chrissie Eckhardt. Please go ahead, ma’am.
Chrissie Eckhardt: Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining the
Breckin Meyer, Franklin & Bash conference call.
Franklin & Bash premieres Wednesday, June 1, at 9:00 pm Eastern on TNT.
The conference call is now open for questions. Please press star 1 to
ask a question.
Thank you.
Operator: And just a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, star 1 if you’d
like to ask a question. And if you are using a speakerphone, please make
sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our
equipment.
We’ll take our first question from Jamie Steinberg with Starry
Constellation Magazine.
Jamie Steinberg: Hi. It’s such a pleasure to speak with you.
Breckin Meyer: Hello, darling.
Jamie Steinberg: Oh, you’re English for the day.
Breckin Meyer: Just for today.
Jamie Steinberg: Well, I was wondering how you got involved with
Franklin & Bash.
Breckin Meyer: I was - got this script by Jamie Tarses who is a friend
of mine and the producer of the show, and I hadn’t done a show - I
haven’t done a series, I think, in six years, and she send me, with the
subject line, “I think I found your next gig.”
And I always told her, I said, “If I was going to do TV, it had to be
something different than what I did last time,” and I hadn’t done an
hour long, and I definitely hadn’t done a legal drama, or dramedy, as
we’ve been calling it. And so, I sat down with Bill Chais and Kevin
Falls, the creators of the show, and talked about where they see the
characters going.
And they said they had Mark-Paul Gosselaar, as Bash - as Peter Bash, and
I had met Mark-Paul for about ten minutes ten years ago in an airport,
so I really didn’t know him. And we did a screen test together for Sony
and Turner and right from the gitgo I just thought, “Oh, well, this guy
and I seem to work well together. This’ll be fun.”
And we have similar backgrounds, similar work ethic, and take everything
- and we take the work seriously, but not each other. And, as he can
tell you, because of the numerous Saved by the Bell references I made on
set. It went - and it seemed to go well. I like Jared. I mean, I think
in the pilot they said it best. (They said this is F. Lee Bailey and)
Barnum & Bailey, which is really how I’ve been described my whole life.
Jamie Steinberg: Okay, thank you so much.
Breckin Meyer: You’re very welcome.
Operator: And we’ll take our next question from Patrick Douglas with
Great Falls Tribune.
Patrick Douglas: How are you doing, Breckin.
Breckin Meyer: Hey, (Bubba). How’s it going?
Patrick Douglas: Actually, I’ve got a friend, he’s a District Attorney
and, you know, he’s got to prosecute some pretty heavy cases, and
obviously law in the real world, you know, it’s not something that’s
usually associated with comedy of this nature, but you guys make it work
with both the humor and the serious outcomes to the cases.
I mean, if you talk about having that balance that has to come in
pulling off a show like this where it could be - it can just be just be
out-of-control humor, but also has to have a little respect for the
legal system.
Breckin Meyer: Yes, I mean it has to dance the line. Bill Chais, one of
our co-creators of the show was a public defender for many years, and we
lean to Bill often when I say, “Look, I understand that this is fun and
this is good for the show and it moves the story along, but can this
happen?” There’s a lot of, “Can this happen?”
And - for example, in the pilot, the girl taking off her shirt and
revealing her bra. I said, “Bill, can it happen,” and he says, “Yes,
absolutely.” And I said, “Well, what would happen to me,” and he goes,
“Exactly what’s happening. You’d be thrown in jail.” So, as long there
are consequences, repercussions to our actions, I’m happy to have us
take the unorthodox approach to the legal system.
And I think that Mark-Paul’s character, Peter Bash, is fantastic with a
jury. They love to swim in his baby blues and he’ll take them down
whatever path he wants them to, and Jared tends to be a little more
unorthodoxed and unleashed in the court.
Patrick Douglas: Well, yes, when you talk about that you definitely
bring this kind of jockular comedy to the role of Jared that makes it so
enjoyable. I mean, how much of that role is adlibbed where you - or, you
know, where you at a 100% of your personality to it?
Breckin Meyer: No, it’s definitely not me. I mean Jared’s definitely -
he’s got more, oh, I’ll just say, moxy than I do. But, Kevin and Bill,
the creators, have been very, very cool about letting me, whether you
want to call it, adlibbing, riffing, improving a little bit. Once they
knew that Mark-Paul and I really got the characters and were looking to
enhance anything, not change it, but just enhance it or find a more fun
way of saying things, they’ve been really cool.
And they’ve also been great about reining me in when I get a little too
wild, but I think it’s what makes it for a funny show is that you have
that freedom, you have that - (you still have that) freedom to kind of
try anything and fail.
Patrick Douglas: Thanks.
Breckin Meyer: Yes.
Operator: We’ll go next to Amy Harrington with Pop Culture Passionistas.
Breckin Meyer: (Pop Culture)...
Amy Harrington: Hi, Breckin. Thanks for your time today.
Breckin Meyer: What is it? Pop Culture, what, Amy?
Amy Harrington: Passionistas. Like fashionista, but with a P.
Breckin Meyer: Sure. I’m with you. Okay.
Amy Harrington: Because we’re passionate about pop culture.
Breckin Meyer: Yes, ((inaudible)).
Amy Harrington: So, you can you tell us about working with Malcolm
McDowell and your other co-stars?
Breckin Meyer: Yes. No, I had never worked with - I think I was one of
the only people who had never worked with Malcolm McDowell, because he’s
done 400 (titles) and movies, but I’d never worked with Malcolm and
didn’t know what to expect.
You know, he’s - he is absolutely a living legend and if anyone has the
- has earned the right to be a diva, it’s Malcolm. And so, I was - not
knowing what to expect and he came on the set and he was just
unbelievable. I mean he was just awesome. He showed up knowing his lines
and ready to play, which is really everything you want in an actor and a
co-star.
He was riffing with me, he was, pardon my French, he would fuck with me
during takes and he - just to keep it fresh and to keep it exciting. And
he is such a - I mean, he really is, he’s just a renegade. He has been
in this business so long and he’s seen every jackass thing you can see,
and he stayed on top and he stayed busy and he stayed great.
So, we’ve had such a good time playing with Malcolm, he’s just - I
cannot say enough good things about him. I’m - it sounds so hokey, but
I’m legitimately proud to say he’s friend of mine because
((inaudible))...
Amy Harrington: That’s awesome. And...
Breckin Meyer: ...Malcolm McDowell.
Amy Harrington: That’s so great. And...
Breckin Meyer: I don’t think he’d know my name if you put a gun to his
head, but still I like him very much.
Amy Harrington: Maybe he’ll learn it over time. And obviously, the
series relies on your friendship - the friendship between Jared and
Peter, so how’s your chemistry with Mark-Paul off-screen?
Breckin Meyer: With the guy from that show with the bell?
Amy Harrington: Yes, that dude.
Breckin Meyer: We didn’t really know each other beforehand. And when we
were shooting the pilot in Atlanta we were kind of locked in confinement
and we would basically go to work, come home, eat dinner in one of our
rooms, and work. And we got to know each other real well and we felt
really good when we finished the pilot, and we ended up taking a trip to
Hawaii together, (kind of) solidifying more of the romantic getaway
there.
And we get along real well and we both show up the same way, which is
knowing our lines, ready to play, we take the job seriously (about) each
other, and it’s fun.
Amy Harrington: That’s great. Well, thank you for your time and best of
luck with the show.
Breckin Meyer: Absolutely.
Operator: Our next question will go to Jay Jacobs with
PopEntertainment.com.
Jay Jacobs: Hey, Breckin. It’s nice talking with you again. I
interviewed you when you were doing Blue State.
Breckin Meyer: Oh, really? I like that movie.
Jay Jacobs: Yes, that was a good movie. Now, (New Insider) touched on
this before, but the show’s really funny, but some of your characters
acts in court could clearly get you guys in trouble...
Breckin Meyer: Yes.
Jay Jacobs: ...how far do you guys think that you’ll be able to push
that boundary?
Breckin Meyer: I think it’s - you know - I mean, other than getting
disbarred, I think, would be too far.
Jay Jacobs: Yes.
Breckin Meyer: You know, I will - I think Jared and Peter’s philosophy
is they will do anything possible to get their client off, and it means
getting sent to jail, so be it. It’s also (the good of the)
((inaudible)) to say about the TV show Mash that everything’s funny but
the war...
Jay Jacobs: Right.
Breckin Meyer: ...and with Jared and Peter, I think everything’s funny
and fair game, except the case, and everything has a reason to it. It’s
not just being silly in court because it’s fun, it’s...
Jay Jacobs: Right.
Breckin Meyer: ...everything leads to - everything has a reason behind
it, everything leads to getting our client exonerated.
Jay Jacobs: Okay, and in what ways is Jared like you, in what ways is he
sort of difficult for you to relate to?
Breckin Meyer: Jared, I think, has more - Jared’s ballsier that I am.
Jared has more moxy than I do, but I think we have similar sense of
humors. He’s a little sillier than I am...
Jay Jacobs: Okay.
Breckin Meyer: ...(he’s) just wanting to play and - something to play
with, but I’ve know guys like Jared growing up and...
Jay Jacobs: Okay, well, great. Best of luck with the show.
Breckin Meyer: I appreciate it.
Operator: We’ll go next to Lena Lamoray with LenaLamoray.com.
Breckin Meyer: Hi, ((inaudible))...
Lena Lamoray: Hey, Breckin. It’s a pleasure to speak with you.
Breckin Meyer: ...oh the Web site.
Lena Lamoray: Okay, thanks.
Breckin Meyer: ((Inaudible)) sort of have a name for it, it’s your name.
That’s awesome.
Lena Lamoray: Yes. Franklin has some of the best lines in the show. A
couple of my favorites from the pilot were about him loving the law and
the lumberjack comments. So, can you talk about your favorite scene or
lines from the pilot and what we can expect.
Breckin Meyer: Loving the law, I’m actually pretty proud of that one. I
think we came up with that on the day. I really had a good time making
the pilot. It really just felt like when it was done the first think
Mark-Paul and I said to each other was we want to see what else these
guys are going to do. We want to do more.
I think Jared has a really nice freedom with his words and he doesn’t
worry about what people are going to say. Maybe sometimes he should, but
he doesn’t. And I’ve been describing Mark-Paul’s character as very suave
and you swim in his blue eyes and he’ll take the jury where he needs
them to go. And Jared’s more like a dog going after a tennis ball in a
bush, which is he’ll go head first and deal with the thorns later.
And I think - and my favorite scenes are always the scenes with
Mark-Paul. Anytime he and I get to dual and dance with each other, it’s
fun (somewhat).
Lena Lamoray: Okay. Now, the promo for the show (is brilliant) who
doesn’t enjoy the lawyer as on TV, and you took them one step further.
So, would hire them to represent you?
Breckin Meyer: Would I hire Franklin and Bash to represent me? It really
depends on what I was arrested for, but I guess I absolutely would only
- probably mostly out of curiosity just to see how they’re going to get
me off. And also, what I was arrested for, (I’m curious too). But...
Lena Lamoray: Thank...
Breckin Meyer: ...but yes, sure why not. I’d hire them.
Lena Lamoray: Thank you so much.
Breckin Meyer: You’re very welcome.
Operator: Next we’ll go to Laura Simons with Abnormal Use, Legal Blog.
Breckin Meyer: Abnormal Use, Legal Blog, ((inaudible)).
Laura Simons: Yes. Hi, Breckin.
Breckin Meyer: Hey, how’s it going?
Laura Simons: Good. Our readership is made up primarily of lawyers...
Breckin Meyer: Okay.
Laura Simons: ...and you sort of touched on this a minute ago, but I
wonder if I were a client of Franklin & Bash, why would I want your
character, Jared, to represent me?
Breckin Meyer: Well, the good thing is with Franklin and Bash, you get
both Franklin and Bash. But, I think Jared, who is a - you know, Jared’s
a kid who grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth. His father was a -
still is a high powered litigator, and he rebelled against that by not
wanting to be a lawyer, but eventually had to accept that it was his
calling, but if he’s going to do it he’s going to do it on his own
terms. And I think you’d definitely - you’d get lawyering like you
hadn’t seen before. How about that?
Laura Simons: Okay. And your character’s been described as quick-witted
and scrappy. Do you have anything to add to that description?
Breckin Meyer: Really kind of almost off the chart remarkably good
looking. That - I mean that’s not me, that what - I mean, that’s what
I’ve heard. ((inaudible))...
Laura Simons: Right.
Breckin Meyer: ...I’ve heard.
Laura Simons: That’s obvious.
Breckin Meyer: Yes, so that’s how I’d describe it.
Laura Simons: Well, thank you.
Breckin Meyer: You’re very welcome. Thank you.
Operator: We’ll take our next question from Fred Topel with Screen
Junkies.
Fred Topel: Hi, Breckin. I want to...
Breckin Meyer: Hey, Fred. How’s it going, good?
Fred Topel: Good, thank you. I want to first follow-up on one of the
first things you said in the first answer to your question, what were
your burning Saved by the Bell questions that you finally got answered
after all these years?
Breckin Meyer: There were so many. Many of them revolved around Dustin
Diamond. I think the one question I had was, “What really was in the jar
of pep pills that Jessie was taking that made her miss the audition?”
(Seeing the audition), I recommend that episode. It’s a really good
episode.
Fred Topel: And - I know the episode, were...
Breckin Meyer: Yes.
Fred Topel: ...you satisfied with the answer?
Breckin Meyer: Yes. I was definitely satisfied with the answer. I think
what the answer was is Mark-Paul pushed me really hard.
Fred Topel: Well, I’ve seen the first two episodes and really into the
show, so I was wondering, what are some of the other upcoming cases that
are some your favorites Franklin and Bash get to try?
Breckin Meyer: One of my - there’s - I think there’s three that come to
mind. One is that we represent a Madoff-like character, which is a
challenge for Franklin and Bash, in the sense that they’re used to
fighting for the little man, fighting for the underdog and here they are
representing, The Man, so speak. You know, what would ((inaudible)).
We represent two strippers, ((inaudible)) just a matter of time, and one
of my favorites is an episode called Franklin versus Bash where we
actually have to go up against each other.
Fred Topel: Wow. Didn’t take long to get to that in the first season.
Breckin Meyer: No, I think we had to get that out of the way real quick.
We didn’t - it was a Roth and (Rachel) thing. We didn’t want to keep it
going.
Fred Topel: Wow. Well, thank you very much. Good luck with the show
Breckin Meyer: Thank you very much.
Operator: And just a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you’d like to
ask a question, press the star key followed by the digit 1 on your
telephone keypad.
We’ll take our next question from Jamie Steinberg with Starry
Constellation Magazine.
Jamie Steinberg: Well, I wanted to ask you, and I asked Mark this, both
of you have become a big fan and participant on Twitter, and I’m glad to
see that you had fun with Seth Green and his wife over the weekend. Why
is being a part of Twitter so important to the promotion of the show?
Breckin Meyer: I don’t - I actually don’t think I’ve ever mentioned the
show on Twitter, so I - it appears that I suck at it.
Jamie Steinberg: So much for the boot camp.
Breckin Meyer: Yes, so much for the boot camp. But, I mean I learned a
lot of things at the boot camp. I learned what a hash mark was, because
I thought a hash mark was a totally different thing until then, but I
don’t know.
I mean, I guess the publicity department could help you out better as
far as why it’s important. But, I’m sure in the way it is know there’s
so many different social media networks and Web sites and Twitter, and
all these things that are just different avenues to reach out and tell
people about something you’re proud of, and I’m absolutely proud of this
show, I mean.
Jamie Steinberg: Why will people want to tune in to watch?
Breckin Meyer: I think it’s good. I think it really is good. I mean, I
think it’s exactly what I was hoping it would be, which is I believe - I
grew up loving, you know, dramedies. My favorite actors were guys who
did both, whether it’s Dreyfuss or Michael Keaton and Tom Hanks. I like
the guys who have always done drama and comedy. These are dramedies in a
sense. It’s Broadcast News, it was Jerry Maquire, you know, called
romantic comedies or romantic...
Jamie Steinberg: Great...
Breckin Meyer: ...but I think it’s pretty fun. I think it should be fun
and I think the cases they get are interesting. They’re from the
headline cases on their ((inaudible)), and the ((inaudible)), hopefully
people like it.
Jamie Steinberg: Great. Thank you, again.
Breckin Meyer: I guess I’ve got to mention, Franklin & Bash on that
Twitter account, huh?
Jamie Steinberg: I guess you do, otherwise TNT will take it away from
you.
Breckin Meyer: Well, it’s mine. They can’t. It’s my name.
Jamie Steinberg: It’s...
Breckin Meyer: It’s not Jared Franklin, it’s Breckin Meyer.
Operator: We’ll take our next question from Patrick Douglas with Great
Falls Tribune.
Patrick Douglas: All right, Breckin, now what’s the biggest challenge
for you developing a TV character like this, as opposed to, you know,
working on a film and, you know, having a shorter window to really get
the character out?
Breckin Meyer: I think the biggest challenge with me with Jared is to
keep him real, is to make it not just a wacky silly guy. You know,
Mark-Paul and I talked with the creators real early on about we didn’t
want it just to be the odd couple. We didn’t want funny guy, straight
guy. And we didn’t want - you know, it was very - it’s very easy to fall
into that rut of, “Okay, well, he’s a funny one, he’s a serious one, he
gets the ladies, he’s always whining about not getting the ladies.”
And so, we wanted to - these guys are life-long friends, they have to
get along. It’s not like they were just thrown together. These guys have
to be - these guys have to complement each other, they have to get
along, they have to finish each other’s sentences, they have to be funny
in their own right, but also funny together.
So for me, the challenge is to keep Jared fresh and keep him real so
it’s not just uber wacky.
Patrick Douglas: Thanks.
Operator: And ladies and gentlemen, once again we’ll remind you, star 1
if you’d like t ask a question.
We’ll go now to Jay Jacobs with PopEntertainment.com.
Jay Jacobs: I’ve always been a really big fan of Reed Diamond’s work,
ever since Homicide. Obviously, he’s (playing this funny) - he’s sort of
plays the uptight enemy-type to your character, but what’s he like to
work with and what’s he like in real life?
Breckin Meyer: Reed’s great. I mean, Reed has to take so much shit from
Mark-Paul and I. It was based on who is character is.
Jay Jacobs: Yes.
Breckin Meyer: I’d never - I hadn’t seen - I’d never met Reed Diamond
before and everyone kept saying, “Well, you know, he was on 24, and I
expected this very serious guy. And Reed is like the coolest - he was
like this cool, suave hippie. He’s always got his guitar with him and
he’s just cool and he’s all organic and doesn’t anything that casts a
shadow, and things like that.
And - but his character - I mean, when we’re on set, not that we’re in
character, so to speak, all the time, but we do dance around a lot and
we do mess around with messing with his character Karp. And a lot of
things that we like to mess with is stuff off camera before we start
filming. We’ll just be kind of shadowboxing with Reed, so he has to take
a lot of crap from us, just in order to ramp up to what we do on camera.
Jay Jacobs: Sure.
Breckin Meyer: But, he’s a lovely individual.
Jay Jacobs: Okay, great. Thank you.
Operator: And we’ll go next to Patrick Douglas with Great Falls Tribune.
Patrick Douglas: All right, a third question.
Breckin Meyer: ((inaudible)), you said that ((inaudible)).
Patrick Douglas: All right, so you know the courtroom drama shows have
been around for quite a while, and obviously they usually revolve around
the cases with the characters kind of holding up that premise. But, the
show seems to revolve around you guys, with the cases kind of coming in
second, which makes it kind of fresh and unique.
I mean, how big of a draw was it to see a show that’s so common, yet is
so unique?
Breckin Meyer: Yes, I mean, I hadn’t - I don’t watch a ton of
procedurals, but when I read this script, what I liked is that we went
home with the characters. I don’t believe that happens all the time on
other shows, but the ones I’ve seen it - what I hadn’t seen before was
going home with these characters who, first of all they live together,
and really get to know them.
And half of their time they’re spent a home because that’s where their
team is, that’s where Carmen and Pindar or where the guys who were doing
things that you can’t necessarily get away with at the office. So, I
liked that we followed them. I liked that we followed ((inaudible)) two
single street lawyers who have lives outside of the courtroom and have
lives outside of their suits, and I like that we get to see that. (It
was fun though.
Patrick Douglas: Thanks.
Breckin Meyer: Yes, man.
Operator: And we have a question from Jim Halterman with
JimHalterman.com.
Jim Halterman: Hey, Breckin, thanks for your time today.
Breckin Meyer: How’s it going, man.
Jim Halterman: Hey, good. I was just talking to Mark-Paul, so sorry if I
joined the call a little bit late.
Breckin Meyer: ((inaudible)).
Jim Halterman: Yes, he held me up.
Breckin Meyer: He’s just an asshole.
Jim Halterman: So, I’ll ask you the same question I asked him. You know,
I asked if you would want to see your characters kind of get in a
serious relationship, and he wants to keep the characters single, but
what’s your thought?
Breckin Meyer: Yes, I think for right now it’s - I like keeping them
single. He - well, his character is just out of a relationship and he’s
still ((inaudible)) from the ass whipping that his ex gave him. But, I
would like Jared to stay single for a while just because I think it’s
fun. I think it’s fun when him crossing the line with his clients or
walking that fine line, (because) he’s a nut.
But, yes, I’d like to see him single for a while, and Hanna, they’ve got
Garcelle’s character, I like that they’re having kind of on and off
again thing.
Jim Halterman: Yes. That’s fun. All right, great. Thanks so much.
Breckin Meyer: (You’re welcome).
Operator: And we have a call from Jay Jacobs with PopEntertainment.com.
Jay Jacobs: When you were talking about fun things, do you have like
sort of a dream scenario that you’d love to play out for Jared?
Breckin Meyer: No, I want them to branch out a little bit. I want them
to - I’m curious where it’s going to go from here in the, knock on wood,
the second season. I’d like some - when they - I like when they get to
stick it to authority. I enjoy that. Now that they’re at the highfalutin
law firm, I think they’re going to get more chances to do that.
So yes, I mean, I leave the stories to Kevin and Bill, but I would love
to see them take on bigger and bigger corporate guys. I’d love to see
them take on a whole corporation, whether it’s Enron or something like
that. It would be fun. I like when they get to mess with the zombie
culture, so to speak.
Jay Jacobs: Okay, great. Thank you.
Operator: And that’s the last question we have in our queue this
afternoon. I’ll turn the call back to Ms. Eckhardt.
Chrissie Eckhardt: Thank you so much everyone for joining today’s call.
As a reminder, Franklin & Bash premiers Wednesday, June 1 at 9:00 pm
Eastern on TNT.
A transcript of this call will be available within 24 hours.
Thank you, Breckin, and thank you everyone for participating. Have a
good day.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude our conference. We
appreciate your participation.
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