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Interview with David Frei and John
O’Hurley of the National Dog Show on NBC 11/18/14
Moderator: Erica Lewis
November 18, 2014
12:00 pm CT
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen thank you for standing by.
Welcome to the National Dog Show presented by Purina Press
and Media Conference call. During the presentation all
participants will be in a listen only mode.
Afterwards we will conduct a question and answer session. At
that time if you have a question please press the 1 followed
by the 4 on your telephone. If at any time during the
conference you need to reach an Operator please press star
As a reminder this conference is being recorded Tuesday,
November 18, 2014. I would now like to turn the conference
over to Erica Lewis, please go ahead.
Erica Lewis: Hi good afternoon everyone and thank you for
joining today's conference call for the National Dog Show
presented by Purina. This year marks its 13th broadcast on
NBC and it will air on Thanksgiving Day from noon until 2:00
pm in all time zones.
Joining us today are co-host David Frei and John O’Hurley,
we thank you guys for joining us.
David Frei: Sure.
John O’Hurley: Nice to be here.
David Frei: Happy to be here.
Erica Lewis: When you register for a call, for a question
please feel free to ask a question and one follow-up and if
you have any further questions you can re-register. Thank
you very much and we're ready to get started (Edison)
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen if you would like to register
a question please press the 1 followed by the 4 on your
telephone. You'll hear a three-tone prompt to acknowledge
If your question has been answered and you would like to
withdraw your registration please press the 1 followed by
the 3. If you are using a speakerphone please lift your
handset before entering your request.
Once again to register a question please press 1, 4 on your
telephone. Our first question comes from the line of
Stephanie Peushvid, mingomediatv.com, please proceed.
Stephanie Peushvid: Hi, thank you. I have to tell you that
your - this show is an institution at our house on
John O’Hurley: Thank you.
David Frei: Great.
Stephanie Peushvid: We're - not only are we dog lovers but
our dogs like to watch, they get a little frisky watching.
John O’Hurley: You're not the first person to say that.
David Frei: I get pictures all the time from people sending
me a picture of their dog, their Cavalier barking at the
Cavalier or bark, or any dog barking at - well I better not
say the particular breed but sometimes they'll bark at a
particular breed that's not a big favorite, but anyway we
have a great time with it.
Stephanie Peushvid: Well it's not just humans that enjoy
John O’Hurley: Do they count in (unintelligible).
Stephanie Peushvid: I think maybe, maybe in another space
and time. So what are some of the insider tips you'd like to
share with home viewers that maybe we don't see or we need
to look for during the show?
John O’Hurley: Well I'll start, I think...
Stephanie Peushvid: Okay.
John O’Hurley: ...and it's something that we kind of pointed
out, we are going to point out a little bit more on this
years show is how the handlers handle the dog. And this is
something I've become more akin to because how - the handler
has to know how that dog moves.
And the speed of the way that it presents it around the ring
it can take the animal off its stride, off its gait and so
that it doesn't look as good as it should. There are a lot
of little things that go into handling the dog that you
don't, that you just, you know, many people at home think
that they're just escorting the dog around the ring but
that's not true.
David Frei: I think that's well said John, we talk about the
good handlers really are kind of invisible in there if
they're doing their job properly you don't really notice
And we think that's important and we think we're going to
have some fun with that in this show. I also think, I always
say to people I want you to watch and listen to our stories
about these different breeds.
If you know what they were bred originally to do you have
some idea about their temperament and their personality and
their condition needs and things like that too
So I want you to think about it in those terms, in addition
to just smiling and being entertained by 175 or so different
breeds and varieties.
Stephanie Peushvid: And I have another follow-up question
on the addition of the new breed, it's interesting to see
more breeds being included into AKC. Does that change the
field of play if you will for the other breeds that have
been long established out there as far as competition?
David Frei: Well there's - we always welcome more
competition. I think that sometimes it takes the new breeds
a while to get sort of into the mix at full speed so to
speak, but as the judges in particular begin to educate
themselves about those new breeds.
I don't know some of those breeds have been around for a
long time. We say new breeds we always say it's kind of a
misnomer because some of them have been around for hundreds
of years, they just are newly recognized by the AKC, which
makes them eligible for our show.
Stephanie Peushvid: Right okay great, thank you.
David Frei: You bet.
Operator: The next question comes from the line of (Mallory
Hart) with nbc.com please proceed.
Mallory Hart: Hi, I wanted to know if there's something
you look forward to the most each year or the least?
John O’Hurley: Well for me it's walking my wife and I and
this year my son as well walking up and down the aisles
before the show and seeing all the dogs. It is so much fun
to see so many different breeds and they're all in various
stages of being poofed up for the show.
And it's just it's wonderful to see the attention that they
get and the interaction that they have with their owners and
their handlers. And just to see the whole feel of it
backstage, there's an electricity to it when you have, you
know, nearly 2000 dogs back there.
And then you have the public going back and forth and they,
everybody has a smile on their face. I always say that the
dog show is always the happiest place on earth because you
have that many dogs and all that wonderful energy in the
room and everybody is having the best day of their lives.
David Frei: That's well said, I'll second those remarks.
John O’Hurley: Well you can't you've got to come up with
something infinitely more creative.
David Frei: You're the creative guy, you’re the wit and I'm
John O’Hurley: Let's not get into this, let's not have this
team implode on the phone here.
David Frei: I have, actually I have a great time with John
every year and we do have fun. You know, for a while the
image was that he was indeed the wit and I was supposed to
be the wisdom.
But I think through the years we've come to find that John
has a great wisdom about the dogs and their role in our
lives and I think it's fun for us to hear him share that on
Thanksgiving Day and for us to chip in when - with our
feelings about it too.
And I think that's the most important thing is that...
John O’Hurley: Well that's nice of you to say David but I
still live in your shadow.
David Frei: ...I say all the time - well I'm glad you
pointed that out but we do have great fun with it because we
both love our dogs, we both love dogs. We each have a
Cavalier in our lives so we sometimes compare notes on does
your dog do this.
And you don't need to talk to the breeder let's go talk,
let's call her up right now and find out why our dog is
doing these things. We have a great time with it and we're
just happy to be a part of this great show that gets it into
so many living rooms and so many turkey tables on
Mallory Hart: And have your dogs ever been show dogs?
John O’Hurley: You know, I have a Cavalier King Charles that
does come from championship lineage but it does - she has a
little bit of an overbite. So we love her dearly but
apparently she's not show material but she certainly looks
it though she's gorgeous.
And it happens to be just coincidentally the cousin to the
Cavalier that David has, they came from the same breeder.
David Frei: Both of my dogs were show dogs and (Grace) is a
retired show champion. I showed her and finished her myself.
And (Angel) won a few points and then came in season and
blew all her coat and it never came back so she got to
retire early, but they are both very active as therapy dogs.
But of course I had Afghan Hounds for 30 years and finished
a lot of dogs, was in the ring a lot. And in fact we have
the top Afghan Hound, (Zumi) retired as the top winning
female in the history of the breed a number of years ago.
So we've been in the ring and we appreciate what it takes
for these people to get in there and show their dogs.
Mallory Hart: Thank you.
Operator: The next question comes from the line of Marty van
Duyne with News Net News please proceed.
Marty van Duyne: Hi David, hi John.
David Frei: Hi.
John O’Hurley: How are you?
Marty van Duyne: I’m fine, listen the thing I'm curious
about, when the show actually airs I know there's always
some behind the scene stuff that Mary Carillo does, but will
they be showing anything this year of the (Sharina's) dock
diving dogs for the agility?
John O’Hurley: We...
David Frei: I don't think so, probably...
John O’Hurley: We had it there at the show, I don't know
that it's going to make it into the show.
Marty van Duyne: Okay. The reason I asked is because my
readers are always interested in what else goes on besides
the benching area. Given that you don't know if that's going
to be in the show, is there anything special behind the
scenes that will be shown this year that my readers might be
David Frei: Well we think so.
Marty van Duyne: Come on now, give me an example of
David Frei: Well Marty you get to see, you get to hang out
with John back stage. He does a book, he's doing a reading
of his newest children's book with his son (Will) I think
helping him with the big words.
John O’Hurley: The big words, yes.
David Frei: And of course we get to see the new breeds again
as part of the dog show of course but we get to see them up
close and personal with Mary Carillo back there visiting
So we think there's more than enough for everybody but we
try to get our variety of dogs into the show so that’s tough
to do in two hours because we can't, there's no way we can
get 175 different breeds and varieties in our two hour show.
John O’Hurley: Purina also has a couple of interstitials
that they're adding into the show, which deal on the subject
of senior nutrition for cognitive health, which I think is
actually very fascinating.
I had an opportunity to go out to St. Louis to the
headquarters and see what they're doing now as food
additives, these natural ingredients that have had
remarkable success in aiding senior mental health on the
It really is a - as dogs get older they have a tendency to
lose their ability to process glucose in the brain and so
that they end up showing signs of what they refer to as
And they've had some wonderful examples of it being reversed
with some of these natural additives.
Marty van Duyne: That's great that they'll be showing and so
hopefully maybe we'll see you reading your book also on air?
John O’Hurley: Yes, yes and actually I have some news for
you, the book was, is becoming a children's musical now.
Marty van Duyne: Terrific.
John O’Hurley: And it's so there is - yes and we're actually
in talks with the possibility that it will move on and also
become an animated show. But it's still, its', you know, it
will be like - the reason that we do the book reading there
is because really it kind of underscores what we believe in
the show is really the ending of the book, which is the dog
that is perfect is the one next you and it really is kind of
the whole statement of why we do this show.
Marty van Duyne: Terrific thank you so much both of you.
David Frei: Okay Marty.
John O’Hurley: You bet.
Operator: The next question comes from the line of (Courtney
Ridroli) with (Oh So Great) please proceed.
(Courtney Ridroli): Hi, good morning thanks for talking with
John O’Hurley: Sure.
(Courtney Ridroli): My question for you is, I mean I'm sure
a lot of people have seen best in show. Do you have any
stories of I guess intense pet owners that you've had
interactions with over the years at these events?
David Frei: Well, you know, when the movie came out we were
all a little bit leery of what it was going to do but it
did, and it's a great movie believe me I carry it around in
my bag virtually.
But it did not make fun of the dogs, it did not make fun of
the sport it only made fun of the people and we readily
admit to being kind of a target rich audience or target rich
environment in that respect that we do have those characters
I remember my wife yelling at me that I didn't bring the
right squeaky toy for the dog one time. So it's kind of we
all looked at it and laughed, we had a great time with it.
And we take it as a compliment actually to be the object of
satire of a group like that.
John O’Hurley: It is, certainly it's a sign of success that
you're subject to parity. Listen there's a lot of people
that parity need, which I take as a compliment and a badge
Operator: As a reminder to register for a question please
press 1, 4, the next question comes from the line of Krista
Chain with The TV MegaSite, please proceed.
Krista Chain: Hi John.
John O’Hurley: Hello.
Krista Chain: I saw that you were back for your 13th year.
What originally drew you to being a host on the National Dog
John O’Hurley: When the head of NBC Sports called me up in
Los Angeles and I answered the phone and I heard woof, woof.
That's exactly what he said to me, this was put together
Once the head of NBC Sports saw best in show over the
weekend he came in Monday morning and he says I have a great
idea for that two hour slot between the Macy's parade and
football that we normally who our reruns of It's a Wonderful
And lo and behold this was in the space of about 48 hours
this entire project was put together and I was the call on
Tuesday morning. So it was really, you know, it was an - I
always have believed in just the message of opportunity and
I've rarely said no to anything.
And so as a consequence my career rather eclectic and it
takes me in a lot of different directions but, you know, I
always feel that somehow that there's something to be spoken
through the, just the nature of opportunity.
Say yes and it will take you in a different world and this
certainly has and I've enjoyed every day of it.
Krista Chain: Great.
David Frei: And I’m glad you did John it's been great fun
for all of us.
Krista Chain: Well how has it changed since you started 13
John O’Hurley: Well I've - I ask (unintelligible), I don't
ask the silly questions that I did in the beginning, like
which end of the dog are they judging. The, you know, I've
learned so much it's been such a learning curve for me to
learn so much about the breeds and also to develop an eye
for the dog.
David of course has, you know, a whole history with this and
his whole lifetime is spent being, you know, one of the
great voices and one of the great databases for dogs.
So it's been - I've had to a lot of catch up baseball so,
but it's been a lot of fun for me to do, to kind of sharpen
my wits and so that I can actually recognize a good dog in
the ring now.
Krista Chain: Great, well I'll be watching along with my
John O’Hurley: Good, hug him or her tight.
Krista Chain: I will.
Operator: The next question comes from the line of Paris
Permenter with dogtipper.com please proceed.
Paris Permenter: Hi, you know, I wondered I'm sure you all
must have gotten a lot of feedback through the years from
families. And I just wondered what you've heard from
families about what the National Dog Show broadcast means to
their Thanksgiving Holiday?
John O’Hurley: Well we've heard on the plus side, we've
heard so many people say that this is just, you know, such a
welcome thing because it's something that everybody can
And you think of how, you know, regional football has become
they'll only show, you know, the football game in your area
and so that's not for everybody.
And the Macy's Thanksgiving, you know, the Thanksgiving Day
parade is not for everybody but the dog show somehow crosses
a lot of demographic paths. If you're 2 or you're 92 there's
Everybody loves their dogs and they love to have a couple of
hours at something that is just so widespread in its
demographic appeal. On the other side we do get a lot of
complaints that we can't show every dog and that disappoints
us because we really wish we were able to.
You know, we have to compress this into a two hour, from
seven hours into two hours. So it's with regret that we, you
know, can't show every dog. But we do - we have been able to
assuage a little bit of that by putting it on the Internet
so that it's interactive as well and you get the
descriptions of all the dogs that are showing in each group.
Paris Permenter: Great and, you know, from those viewers is
there any one thing that you would like for those viewers to
take from the broadcast in terms of dog care or dog
selection or just the joy of dogs?
John O’Hurley: Well I'll - David I'm sure can add in his
comments but, you know, for me the thing that I walk away
with and what I like people to walk away with is to see
examples of responsible dog ownership.
That dogs are lifetime commitments, that they are - and it's
to be treated that way. That our, sadly our shelters are
full of too many examples of people that took it as just a
trial run and that saddens me.
But I think we've done - we've gone a long way in educating
people about the nature of responsible ownership. The other
thing would be the many things that dogs do for us and I'll
let David fill in a little more, but the whole concept of
dogs being used for therapeutic purposes.
David Frei: I think one of the important things that we tell
people is the history of a breed and what it was originally
bred to do. You know, all dogs basically were developed to
do a particular job according to their breed for us.
And over time whether it's the industrial revolution or
computers or whatever suddenly dogs don't have as much work
to do for us. So they've become more a member of our family
rather than a working tool for us that sleeps out in the
So I think if people know that and they listen to that part
they have an understanding of why dogs act certain ways. Why
they're wired certain ways and might herd your children
around in the living room if they're a herding dog for
But I hope that we can share that knowledge with people and
have them look at their dog and say, now that explains why
you do that so now I understand that a little better.
Or maybe they're thinking about getting a dog and they'll
think about those things and how they fit their lifestyle
and family. So I hope they take that away too.
Paris Permenter: Great thank you.
David Frei: But (John's) right about the therapy dog work
and things like that and being valuable members of our
Paris Permenter: Thank you.
David Frei: Sure.
Operator: And there are no further questions, I'll turn the
call back over to you, Erica Lewis.
Erica Lewis: Hi yes, before I let you go guys I just wanted
to have you talk a little bit about the new breeds that are
competing this year. Could you just give a quick explanation
of what they are?
John O’Hurley: Well David I'll let you handle that.
David Frei: Okay thank you, there's two new breeds this
John O’Hurley: But I do want to begin by just pronouncing it
Coton de Tulear.
David Frei: ...very nice, John. You've been doing your work,
John O’Hurley: I know I have it spelled right in front of me
David Frei: Two new breeds this year and again with the up
front disclaimer that we say new breeds but they aren't
really new breeds they're just newly recognized by the AKC,
which determines what dogs, what breeds are eligible for the
So this year we have two of them. One is, is the
aforementioned Coton de Tulear, which is a little white
cotton swab of a dog that is in the non-sporting group.
It's kind of a lap dog and there's a lot of question about
why it didn't come in as a toy dog. But they're cute little
dogs I know John you were hanging out with one backstage.
John O’Hurley: Adorable, this dog is just magic, absolutely
David Frei: It is funny and they are fun dogs too, they all
name their dogs after some fashion, you know, some fashion
company like Burberry or Chanel or things like that.
But they're fun little dogs, cute dogs, long hair, long
white cottony sort of - Coton means cotton and Tulear is the
area of Madagascar where they came from. They are the royal
dog of Madagascar that the renegade traders in Madagascar
started trading them off to the European traders, which is
how they eventually came to come to this country is landing
in Europe first.
So the Coton is the first one, then we have a new sporting
breed the Wirehaird Vizsla, which is very similar of course
to the Smooth Coated Vizsla that we all know and love.
And this dog has a little more substance to it but it also
has this wire coat like you might see in a wirehaired, short
hair or wirehaired, German short haired wirehair, German
Wirehaired Pointer, there it is that we've seen too.
It has some of that behind it but it has this wire coat, it
has a wonderful personality the ones that we've seen, we've
only seen two of them and they're great dogs as well.
So two this year we're going to have a bunch more next year
I think, the word is we might have as many as seven new
breeds next year. So we'll see what happens but we hope you
enjoy these two for this year.
Erica Lewis: Well great, thank you very much. We are out of
questions so I want to thank John and David for joining us.
And behalf of all of us I hope everyone has a great holiday.
David Frei: Okay thank you Erica, thanks everybody.
John O’Hurley: Best to you all, thank you.
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