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Interview with Chris Harrison of "The
TRANSCRIPT FROM THE FEBRUARY 19 “THE BACHELOR”
TELECONFERENCE WITH CHRIS HARRISON
“The Bachelor” airs MONDAYS (8:00 p.m. – 10:01 p.m., ET) on
the ABC Television Network.
Operator: Welcome to ABC’s “The Bachelor” call
with Cathy Rehl as the leader. This call is being
recorded. By staying on this call you are confirming that
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recorded, please disconnect from the call at this time.
Miss Rehl, you may begin your
Cathy Rehl: Thanks, and thank you to everybody on
the line for joining us today. We usually, once a season,
have Chris Harrison come on and let us know what’s up. And
this is the perfect time. We are headed into two of the
biggest blockbuster episodes we have this season.
Monday will be the hometown
dates. Tues will be the overnights, in a special two-night
event. So let’s get started with the questions. We’ll have
one question and a follow-up as we normally do. Thanks.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, to ask a
question, please press star, one on your telephone keypad.
Again, star, one to ask a question.
And your first question comes
from Beth Kwiatkowski from "Reality TV World.”
Beth Kwiatkowski: Hi, Chris. How are you doing?
Chris Harrison: Good, Beth. How are you?
Beth Kwiatkowski: Good. So you wrote on your blog this
week, “The hometown dates will be unlike any the show has
had before and the overnight dates will make for the most
intense and exotic episode ever.” So could you elaborate a
little more on those statements and can you tease at all why
these dates will be so different from seasons past?
Chris Harrison: (Inaudible) I think that, as far as the
hometown dates go, you see, like, a Shawn or any of these
guys kind of roll in and it’s really smooth sailing. And
this season isn’t such smooth sailing for him when he goes
into these homes and is really vying for the favor and
permission from these parents to possibly marry their
Then, you know, the exotic
dates is probably the most pivotal episode that we’ve had
this season. And it just, it really is a shakeup of, kind
of, the foundation of everything that’s going on. And
again, it’s usually kind of the bachelor figuring things
out. But this season it’s really been – it seems like it’s
been – the ladies questioning and figuring things out, as of
late. And that will continue through the exotic and the
Beth Kwiatkowski: OK. And you told TV Guide late last
month, “Juan Pablo sends mixed messages to the girls and
often changes up the rules, which was confusing for them.”
You also said that wasn’t a language barrier but rather a
quote/unquote “Juan Pablo barrier.”
Could you talk about what you
meant by that and what do you think Juan Pablo’s deal was, I
guess? Like why did he find it so difficult to stay
consistent in his decisions and actions?
Chris Harrison: Well, because I think it’s a confusing,
tough thing. I mean, I can imagine (inaudible) in this
situation. Being a single dad myself now and trying to do
the right thing in your children’s eyes and in the eyes of
your friends and family and all that. And then at the other
end of the spectrum, your also trying to date and you want
to be yourself and you want to let go and you – because
that’s how you have to do this show.
You have to really embrace it
and really kind of let go and take your hands off the
wheel. (Inaudible). And so he’s trying to do both and I
think, in trying to serve both masters, he is having
trouble, you know, kind of justifying it and living with
it. And so what that has done is kind of move the goalpost
in the middle of the game from time to time. Whether it was
the situation with Clare or any of the other women that
he’ll kiss and then regret or whatever it is.
And it’s just tough for these
women to try and figure out, “Where do we stand and what are
the rules?” And it puts a little bit of his guilt on them,
which isn’t necessarily fair. And it’s not like he’s doing
this to be mean. There’s no malice. It’s actually out of
genuine respect for trying to serve everybody. It’s just
(inaudible) thing to do.
And that’s, you know, and
again, I could see why that would be a problem myself,
trying to do this.
Beth Kwiatkowski: OK. Thanks, Chris.
Operator: Your next question comes from (Evan
Reel) from “In Touch.”
Evan Reel: Hey, Chris, how’s it going?
Chris Harrison: Hey, man, what’s up?
Evan Reel: So without giving away, like, any
spoilers, how difficult was this decision for Juan Pablo in
the end. Like when you compare it to past seasons, where
does Juan Pablo’s deliberating fall on "The Bachelor" scale?
Chris Harrison: The last three weeks were as difficult
as we’ve ever had on this show. Maybe the most difficult.
And I don’t just mean his final choice or the final, you
know, how it ends up. I just mean the way we kind of sailed
into this final episode. You know, at this point it’s
really – "The Bachelor", "The Bachelorette" – narrowing it
down to two or three amazing people and then it’s, “OK, who
fits best in my lifestyle? What direction do I want to take
This was a rockier road, you
know, to that final episode for Juan Pablo than I think
we’ve ever had.
Evan Reel: Yes. Now it has been kind of rocky
for Juan Pablo. Sharleen, she walked on her own accord and
that was someone who Juan Pablo seemed to really have a
connection with. So how jarring is that to the bachelor, in
general? And, like, is it strange for girls to walk out?
Like, is it – how does it affect the bachelor when that
Chris Harrison: It is jarring. You know, because, you
know, something that you really can’t show on TV but we’ve
all been there – and that’s why this show is so great and I
think it does so well is we can all empathize and we can all
understand and relate – is, you know, essentially he was
dumped and he got broken up with. And that hurts your ego
and it hurts your confidence.
I mean, it hurts, you know,
all those things and all those insecurities that we all have
– whether we show them and talk about them or not – all of a
sudden comes to the surface. And it makes you question
everything. And he is in the middle of all these other
great relationships but, of course, you know, he’s only
human to then think, “Wait, you know, could all these women
be leaving?” and “Do they really love me and do I love them
and where is this going?”
And so it does rock the
foundation of everything he has right now. Again, that’s –
I think what makes the show so relatable is we’ve all kind
of fallen for that person that didn’t fall for us.
Evan Reel: Right. Great. Thank you so much.
Operator: Your next question comes from Alli
Rosenbloom from “Us Weekly.”
Alli Rosenbloom: Hi, Chris.
Chris Harrison: Hello, Alli.
Alli Rosenbloom: Hi. So Sharleen left on Monday’s
episode and we report in our new issue that another woman
leaves during the (fantasy-suite) episode. Why do you think
women are leaving so late in the process? Were they just
not compatible with Juan Pablo?
Chris Harrison: Well, I mean, I can speak to, you know,
to Sharleen. And, you know, how she feels. And one – I
think the great thing about the show – and I say that a lot,
“one of the great things about this show” – but one of the
things that always has stood out to me is the show’s not
predicated on the fact that life is perfect, relationships
are perfect, and it’s one big happy fairytale. Because
that’s not how it works.
And it’s not just the bachelor
or the bachelorette that holds the power. And I’ve paid
that lip service before where I say it’s a two way street
or, you know, so on. But it’s true that, you know, while
Juan Pablo does hold the roses, so to speak, that doesn’t
mean that these women are just, you know, doe-eyed followers
that are going to do as he says.
I mean, Sharleen’s an
amazingly smart, articulate woman and she expects a lot out
of a man. She wasn’t getting that, in her opinion, and she
wants more – or at least different. And she decided to
leave. I love the fact that a) we showed that from night
one – that she was not sure about him or this process – and
then b) we showed at the end, “Hey, I’m outta here. This
isn’t for me.”
And so I’m kind of glad we
show these relationships. And we’ve done it in the past as
well but this season in particular you’ve been able to see
it more. And you will see, next week – the Tuesday night
show and the overnight dates – that, you know, it happens
again where one of these women will question, you know,
whether this is right for her and whether Juan Pablo is the
guy for her. Is she getting what she needs out of this
Alli Rosenbloom: Do you think that he is pleased with the
outcome of the series? Do you think that he’s happy now?
Chris Harrison: You know, I think that he’ll be – I
think, at the end of the day, he did a great job for him.
And I think he’ll be satisfied with (inaudible) and where he
is in his life. I do.
Alli Rosenbloom: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from
(Laurie Peters) from “New York Splash.”
Laurie Peters: Hi, Chris. How are you?
Chris Harrison: Good, (Laurie).
Laurie Peters: So you seem to have a feeling for Renee
– how she was very sweet. Could you tell me more about how
she fits in with Juan Pablo?
Chris Harrison: You know, one of the things, obviously,
Juan Pablo has is this love of family. And we’ve shown, I
think a little bit of that this season but I don’t think you
quite have felt as much as I saw the way he is around his
parents. I spent a lot of time with them because they were
in Los Angeles. I would go over to the house and Camila was
running around. And they were living there for quite some
And then we saw them again
when we were in Miami and then later on in St. Lucia. We
spent a lot of time together. And so he is – he’s a family
guy and I know he says that but I’ve seen it and felt it.
And so Renee has that as well. She has this love for, you
know, her son Ben.
And so I think when Juan Pablo
looks at Renee, he sees a lot of himself and he sees what he
wants out of a woman and wants out of a family. And so I
think he has a lot of respect for her and then, obviously,
she’s beautiful and as far as all the other attributes and
emotions go. But I think she really just has a lot of those
things that he is looking for, eventually, in a wife.
Laurie Peters: And do you think Juan Pablo sort of has
two sides to him? Because I know before he used to, like,
look for women in the clubs when he was out dancing. And
this is a lot more serious.
Chris Harrison: I think he has a tough time letting go
and really opening up and giving himself to this process.
And, you know, one thing – if you go back and ask any of our
bachelors or bachelorettes, especially the successful one,
whether it’s, you know, Shawn or Ashley or (inaudible) – is
you have to really let go. And it doesn’t mean you’re going
to (inaudible) and say, “I’m finding a wife. I’m finding a
husband,” because that’s not real. That’s not realistic.
But you can realistically say,
“I am honestly open to this and I’m going to give myself up
to what you guys do because this works.” And, you know,
that’s why Shawn came back. That’s why Emily came back and
all those people do come back because, yes it’s a television
show. We’re creating an entertainment show. But it works.
And – but you really do have
to believe and give up to the process. And I think Juan
Pablo’s had a really tough time with that. And I don’t know
exactly what that is – if it’s a cultural difference, if it
was, you know, there is a language barrier. And I know, you
know, a little bit’s been made of that. But there really
was a large language and cultural barrier because he didn’t
know the show as well as people that had been watching it
for 10 or 12 years and could just kind of slide into that
He had a tough time fitting
into it and really giving it up to the process. And I think
the women have seen a little bit of that reluctance. They
felt it and it’s made some of them question, you know, his
motives. His real sincerity of, “Is he here for true
love.” Because they’re not hearing and seeing it as much as
they’ve seen it in the past.
Laurie Peters: OK, great. Thank you so much.
Operator: Your next question comes from Lesley
Messer from “ABC News.”
Lesley Messer: Hi, Chris. How are you?
Chris Harrison: I’m good, Lesley, thanks.
Lesley Messer: I was just wondering. Juan Pablo has
found himself in hot water about the Clare issue and,
obviously, with the comments he made about there one day
being a gay bachelor and I was wondering if it’s changed
your opinion of whether or not he is the right kind of
person to be the bachelor and how you feel about him being
the star of the show.
Chris Harrison: No, it really hasn’t changed my
opinion. I mean, when we got into this with Juan Pablo, I
knew, you know, it was going to be a different show because,
you know, of a little bit of what I alluded to in that – the
fact that it was kind of like going back 12 years and
grabbing somebody who had never seen the show …
Lesley Messer: Right.
Chris Harrison: … you know, it was, when it back when it
was so new. It was like back with Trista and all that, when
we were really making things up on the fly. But when you
add to the fact that there is that innocence and naiveté to
him, there’s also the cultural difference. But I really
embrace the fact that we were doing something very different
and it was going to be a very different show. And I like
that it’s different.
I like that it feels
different. And I like that it’s played out different. And
it’s not going to be the same "Bachelor" you saw with Shawn
and the same one you saw with Jake or whoever. I like that
every season these people bring their own history, their own
And again, the show, you know,
it’s not really set upon the fact that this guy is perfect.
He isn’t. And nobody is. And I’m glad that we show that.
And these people are flawed. Relationships are flawed.
And I just think it makes the
show more relatable, more watchable and more enjoyable to
watch. Because it isn’t fake and I think you feel that.
And I think our audience and our fans feel that.
Lesley Messer: Definitely. And also, with the women
leaving – you mentioned before, obviously, it shook his
confidence as it would with anybody. I was wondering if in
your conversations with him, any that weren’t shown, if he
doubted whether this is going to work at all – after
Chris Harrison: You know, he would – yes, one thing you
notice about Juan Pablo, and I probably do this myself, when
somebody starts to get hurt or show emotion, he goes full on
Lesley Messer: Mm-hm.
Chris Harrison: You know, all of a sudden you kind of,
you can almost literally see this wall come up and he’s
like, “Look into my eyes. Look at me, look at me,” and
“It’s OK. It is OK. It is –” he really tries to just –
make everybody OK. And that’s, again, that’s a very dad
thing to do because I’m sure he does it with Camila, just
like I do with my kids is you want to fix everything and
make everybody OK.
So you can see it’s also very
much a defense mechanism – how he takes his emotions out of
it and takes his own heart out of it. Later, he does get
upset. Later, you see him cry after rose ceremonies and
stuff like that – when he allows himself to realize what
just happened. And I think in some of our talks you saw,
after Sharleen left and after some of these rose ceremonies,
he was like, yes, it did hurt. And it did shake his
confidence a little bit.
Lesley Messer: Mm-hm. Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from
Valerie Nome from “OK! Magazine.”
Valerie Nome: Hi, Chris. Do have (inaudible) – can
you clear up any misconceptions about Juan Pablo?
Chris Harrison: What are they?
Valerie Nome: Are there any out there that, you know,
that you could clear up?
Chris Harrison: I don’t know. I mean, you’d have to
ask me something specific and I’ll tell you. (Inaudible) I
guess if there’s anything in particular you think. I mean,
I’m not sure what the perception would be.
Valerie Nome: Mm-hm. Mm-hm. OK. What about, what
bachelor or bachelorette couple are you most surprised made
it to the altar or didn’t make it to the altar and why?
Chris Harrison: I’m not surprised that any of them made
it. I mean, you look at, like, Shawn and Catherine, Ashley
and J.P. You know, even back to go Trista and Ryan. And,
you know, I guess I’m hoping Des and Chris, after seeing
them, are headed that direction. None of that surprises me.
The one – I think, I get
surprised by the ones that just don’t work. Even, you look
at, like, Ally and Roberto. Just because I know how – at
the time – how in love they were because I know them both
very well. And they were a lovely couple and they really
genuinely tried to make it work. And then, you know, life
happened and for one reason or another it just didn’t happen
I remember back to like Andrew
Firestone and Jen Schefft, even, to go old school. You
know, I really saw the two of them just fantastic and I just
was sure and would have bet anything that they would’ve made
it. But again, you know, once you start dating, once you
start living together, once you really go through all this –
you know, like real couples, it doesn’t always work. So I’m
probably more surprised by the ones that don’t make it than
the ones that, you know, that do.
Because I just kind of assume
– I’m still, sadly, a hopeless romantic and I believe in
this and I believe in these couples. And it’s only because
I’m there and I see it and I know these people and I know
how much they do love each other when it’s over. And I know
it’s a TV show and it’s easy to say, from the sidelines if
you have a blog or an article or, you know, you’re writing
and say, “These people aren’t going to make it. There’s no
way. They’ll be broken up,” or – that’s easy.
That’s the easy bet. That’s
an easy bet in life. You can go to any house and say, “I
bet you’re going to get divorced,” because guess what? 50,
60 percent of the time – you’re right. It’s not going to
work. Because it’s hard and these relationships are tough
and life is tough. And – but that’s why I think the show,
again, is so popular is because it’s not an easy thing.
Valerie Nome: Why do you think singles have trouble
finding lasting love on the show?
Chris Harrison: I don’t think it’s lasting love on the
show. I think – why do singles have trouble finding lasting
love period? Why are these people on the show in the first
It’s because the dating scene
and dating and all this stuff – it’s hard and it sucks and
it’s exhausting. And I can tell you because I’m there
myself. And it’s brutal.
And so, you know, in every
season, you know, I’ll talk to some of these men or some of
these women. They’re gorgeous and they have perfect bodies
and they have great jobs and I’m like, “Why are you here?
You know, how can you not be getting dates?” And they said,
you know, “The quantity is not the problem. You can get
dates. It’s the quality.”
And when you have, you know,
this environment set up by the producers of "The Bachelor"
and we’re really good at what we do. And, you know,
especially our casting department. Then it is a great, safe,
fantastic place to meet somebody. And it’s worked.
And so these people are, you
know, have tried everything. And so they’ve come to us.
And so I think it’s more indicative of what’s out there and
how our dating world is that they are, you know, still
coming to us in droves. Because it’s tough out there.
Valerie Nome: And finally, what celebrity would you
most like to have as the bachelor or bachelorette and why?
Chris Harrison: Well, I’ll start with the bachelor. I
still think, you know, Clooney would be phenomenal.
Although, I guess, now that Derek Jeter just retired, I
mean, having Jeter come one would be a pretty good
“Bachelor.” But I’m still holding out for Clooney.
Valerie Nome: Mm-hm.
Chris Harrison: Only because I’m selfish and I would
like to hang out with Clooney for a couple months and drink
scotch and swap stories.
And then as far as a
bachelorette – who’d be good bachelorette? I always thought
Jennifer Aniston – I don’t know – she’s in a relationship,
Valerie Nome: Mm-hm.
Chris Harrison: But I always thought that she would be
a good bachelorette, for some reason.
Valerie Nome: What is it about her?
Chris Harrison: What is it not about her? She’s
gorgeous and (inaudible) I remember she was like having
trouble with relationships all the time and finding the
right guy. And I just – and I think we could do good for
her. And I would probably give up my hosting role and then
be on the show.
Valerie Nome: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from Carrie
Bell from “People Magazine.”
Carrie Bell: I was wondering if you think –
because there is kind of a lot of tension, especially within
that last episode, between the women themselves. You know,
it seems like there’s a good chunk of them who think that
Nikki is negative and not ready for this and bitchy and all
of these other, you know, wonderful adjectives. And then …
Chris Harrison: Right.
Carrie Bell: … it seems like Nikki and a few other people
have thought Clare is insane and so, you know, since you
spent time with them, since you saw them, do you think that
any of those sort of judgments are valid and, maybe, that
means he’s sort of making a mistake in keeping either one of
Chris Harrison: You know, it’s funny that, obviously,
it just so happens that those two women are the frontrunners
and have that. And they’re getting the most attention from
Juan Pablo and the most affection from Juan Pablo. So, you
know, it’s only human nature to go after those two and find
something wrong and, “Why does he like her?” you know.
And, again, you can add in the
adjective of he’s a jerk, she’s a bitch or, you know, she’s
not mother material. But the funny thing is, knowing Nikki
and Clare, they’re actually more similar than they would
ever care to admit to. You know, because what those girls
don’t see is when Nikki talks to him about being a pediatric
nurse and how she feels about kids and how she’s given her
life to be with children and caring.
And, like, those girls don’t
get to see that side. He has. And then the other girls
haven’t seen that side of Clare either and that, kind of,
maternal instinct and how sweet she is and how caring she is
for Juan Pablo. And so it’s interesting. If they got to
see that side of each other, which they will when they watch
the show back, they’ll probably come to the “Women Tell All”
or the “After the Final Rose” show and say, “You know what?
They,” you know, “We’re probably more similar than we
Carrie Bell: Right. And then, you know, do you
tease a little more about what happens in the hometown
dates? I mean, are they all an issue or just, you know,
some – I mean, obviously we saw that, like, Clare has an
issue with what (inaudible) her sister. And it seems like
Andi has an issue with her dad.
Are they all sort of
contentious or do some of them actually go well?
Chris Harrison: No, they aren’t contentious.
(Inaudible). No, they aren’t all contentious but there are,
you know, contentious parts of at least a couple of them for
sure. And so it’s just something, obviously, he has to deal
with of going in.
Again, there’s a cultural
difference and it always happens, you know, it’s not just
with Juan Pablo, that these women come in and they have
lived through this experience. And then these families are
like, “Well, we don’t know this guy and you are suddenly in
love with him and you suddenly are ready to give up your
life.” And they’re just not so quick to give up their
And it’s not just a Juan Pablo
thing. It happens quite a bit. But then by the end of the
date, or the end of the episode, you know, you’ll see – if
they indeed, you know, kind of fall for him and give their
Carrie Bell: And then, also, the Chelsie thing.
He seemed so upset about it that it made me think, “Why did
you get rid of her?” Do you think it was still the best
decision for him that she was the least suited to him of the
Chris Harrison: That – was it the right choice to let
Carrie Bell: Yes. Because he seemed so upset
that it made me think, like, “Well, wait, maybe you
shouldn’t have let her go if you’re this upset.” But …
Chris Harrison: You know, I think a lot of it was not
just being upset about Chelsie in particular as much as the
whole thing. It’s just, you know, it’s hard. He’s an
emotional guy and it’s hard for him. And, you know, I don’t
think he had that connection with Chelsie and it wasn’t, you
know, I – when you compare Renee, Clare, Nikki and Andi.
Like, you know, Chelsie’s relationship didn’t compare.
They were good friends
almost. And it was great having her around. It was fun.
But it’s – even though you know it’s right, it’s still never
easy and it’s still never fun to say goodbye to somebody.
And he just takes it really personal when he has to let
these people go. And he also knows that Chelsie was really
popular in the house and so you’re kind of kicking these
girls’ friend off.
And it’s just a tough
situation. And so, you know, he gets emotional and, you
know, he wears his heart on his sleeve. And you see that.
And you kind of saw him pull the half Mesnick, as we like to
say, with the railing.
Carrie Bell: All right. Great. Thanks Chris.
Operator: Your next question comes from
(Deborah Yo) from “Toronto Star.”
(Deborah Yo): Hi, Chris. Thanks very much for taking
the call today.
Just to steer the conversation
back to Sharleen. If she had decided to stay, do you think
there was a chance she might’ve ended up in the final two?
Chris Harrison: Wow. Good question. I mean, you’d
have to ask Juan Pablo but I think she was heading in that
direction, from my perspective.
I mean, a lot had to happen,
you know. She would’ve gone to the hometown dates. Who
knows what would have happened? And then the exotic – you
know, the overnight date. So there was a lot of variables
and a lot of other hurdles to clear.
But, you know, she was easily
atop the list and she was always a top – you know, his
favorite – from the night she got out of the limo. So, you
know, it’s interesting what would’ve happened and how fate
and things would’ve changed.
But I, you know, I can’t
imagine that it wouldn’t have happened that way. But,
again, it was a lot had to occur before we got to the final
(Deborah Yo): Yes, yes. Obviously.
And I realize it’s a little
early to be talking about the next bachelorette but there’ve
been sort of rumblings online about people saying that
Sharleen great for it. What do you think?
Chris Harrison: Yes, it’s funny. Each week, you know,
you get people telling, you know, ever – you know, when – as
soon as someone gets voted off I think it’s natural because
we know that typically we’ll bring somebody in from this
season. And so people start rooting for or people are
already rooting for people on the show, like, Andi and Nikki
and Clare. Or don’t do it for Clare, or don’t do it for
It’s funny that they just
immediately start either cheering or jeering for these
people. Which is fun, it’s – I mean, we listen to it. And
we take them into account. And, you know, as producers and,
you know, we want the fans for the show to essentially tell
us who they want.
That’s how Juan Pablo became
the bachelor, really – was the overwhelming response to a
guy who was barely seen on "The Bachelorette.” And, you
know, that he jumped off the page and became our bachelor.
So we definitely take it into account and listen to it.
And Sharleen would be
interesting. She’s a smart girl and, you know, I don’t know
if this ordeal and this process is right for her though
because she has a tough time with it.
(Deborah Yo): Yes, yes. Absolutely. OK. Thanks very
Operator: Your next question is a follow-up
from Beth Kwiatkowski from "Reality TV World.”
Beth Kwiatkowski: Hi, Chris.
Chris Harrison: Hello. Hey, Beth.
Beth Kwiatkowski: So Juan Pablo keeps talking a lot
about how he’s in the entertainment and music business and
he has been getting photographs out in public with other
women recently. So a lot of viewers are skeptical he’s not
going to end up with the woman who gets his final rose and
maybe he wasn’t sincere about wanting to get married – as
much as, say, a Shawn Lowe when he did the show.
Some people are saying he did
it for the publicity and money and whatnot. So I just want
to get your thoughts on that.
Chris Harrison: Well, first of all, I don’t think he
really – you can do it for making money because we’re never,
like, making people rich of this show. But, you know, he
can’t, you know, if and when you end up with somebody at the
end of the show, you can’t be with that person. Like Shawn
can’t go out and take pictures with Catherine. So you go
out with your friends. You go out and you kind of continue
living your life and working until, you know, you can be
with that person that you chose – if you indeed end up with
So, no, I think, you know, I
think he’s kind of doing typically what everybody else does
on a show. And, you know, in this day and age of social
media, you’re going to be out. People are going to take
pictures with you. And, you know, women are going to come
up because they love the guy.
I mean, he’s really popular.
When you go out with this guy it’s, you know, you can
quickly see why, you know, he was the bachelor. Everybody
wants to take pictures and talk to him.
So, you know, you can – people
are going to derive whatever they want from that and make
stories up from a couple pictures. But I, honestly, haven’t
seen any but that typically happens every season.
Beth Kwiatkowski: OK. And you told TV Guide earlier
this month that Renee is a normal woman, a mom, and she has
perspective. And at the end of the day, that’s what Juan
Pablo says he wants but you asked the question, “Is that
something Juan Pablo really wants?”
So I guess, although the
bachelor’s been insisting those qualities are things he
wants in a woman, what makes you question he might be
looking for other things?
Chris Harrison: Well, you know, I think what – when you
go through this as the host, and I’ve been through this 27
times and I watch and – a great example was, like, Shawn.
And I can use him as an example because of how – what he was
looking for and then what he ended up with. And you look at
a guy like Shawn who used his parents as a role model and
idols and rightfully so. They’re amazing people.
And so he though, you know, I
want this kind of woman and this (inaudible) strong-willed,
kind of, maybe even a little older. But you look at like
maybe a Selma or an Ashley from the show. And, you know,
but that’s not what Shawn needed and wanted at the time.
He’s a younger guy. He’s
young at heart. Kind of carefree. That’s where he is in
his life right now. And then he smartly chose Catherine and
Lindsay. Girls that are kind of – were where he is right
now. And he ended up obviously with Catherine, which was a
great choice, because they are very much alike and very much
in the same station in life.
And Juan Pablo was kind of the
same way. You know, you look at a Renee and she does have
all the attributes and all the qualities that he eventually
wants. But is that what he wants right now? And so, you
know, that’s – again it gets down to not whether she’s a
great woman, not whether she’s beautiful. It’s a lifestyle
and is this the person that will fit into my life and me
into her life right now?
And that’s kind of the
beautiful thing about this show and the process is you’re
going to get quality. Now it’s a matter of who is better
fit for you?
Beth Kwiatkowski: OK. Thanks, Chris.
Operator: Your next question is a follow-up
from Lesley Messer from “ABC News.”
Lesley Messer: Hi, so you’ve mentioned now, obviously,
that you are a single dad who is – has been in the dating
world. Would you ever consider being the bachelor yourself?
Chris Harrison: I’ve gotten that question a ton. And,
obviously, so – I mean, it makes sense. I’m single now and
I host "The Bachelor.”
But, that’s my job. It’s what
I do. I’m a TV host and I love TV and I love hosting "The
Bachelor” and I’ve done it for 12 years. To turn around and
be on the show, doesn’t make much sense for me because a) I
love hosting it and it’s profession. And I love that people
come on the show and I believe in it obviously. Because
I’ve sat up and not only been to these but officiated a
wedding from people that have been on the show.
So I believe in it and I
believe the people. But for me, it’s my job. And I created
and I’ve worked hard on it behind the scenes and I still do
it and make it work. And so to all of a sudden be the
person, it honestly just wouldn’t make much sense. And I
don’t think it would be very good because I would be more
You know, when I talk about
Juan Pablo and Shawn and what makes a good bachelor, it’s
someone who will give up to this process and really let
themselves go. I can tell you I wouldn’t. Because I would
be producing television, worried about, you know – is this
good camera, is this? You know, and I – it would just be a
Because I would be more
worried about directing and producing than I would trying to
Lesley Messer: Right. And I was also wondering, you
know, there’s been talk of, you know what if these girls
aren’t right for him? What if it doesn’t end in a proposal
or a marriage? If it doesn’t end in a proposal or if they
get engaged and don’t end up getting married, is that a
failure or is that just the way it goes?
Chris Harrison: no, it’s the show. And it’s life. And
I love that. I love that our show doesn’t always end with a
proposal or marriage or anything. I mean, it could be a
complete disastrous meltdown and we’re going to show that.
I mean, the odd and scary thing about producing this show is
it’s not a game show.
At the end of “Idol,”
“Survivor,” “Dancing with the Stars,” whatever it is, it’s a
game show. There’s winners and there’s losers. And, you
know, there’s money or there’s a prize. Our show is really,
at the end, left up to, you know, hopefully two people and
then a choice.
And as producers, we have no
say and no choice as to how our show ends. And you have to
– and it’s scary as hell because in television the last
thing you want to do is not have control. But at the end of
our show, you have no control. And you’ve got to let it
go. And so we’re going to show you the good, the bad, the
And – but that’s what our fans
demand and that’s why our show has been on 12 years and
it’ll probably be on another hundred years. Because it’s
not predicated on the fact that all of a sudden there’s a
proposal and a priest pops up and, “Hey, there’s a wedding
and everything’s perfect. That’s the way life goes,”
because it’s not.
You know, everybody’s not cut
out to end up with the perfect fairytale and we’re going to
show, no matter what happens, you’re going to see it. And I
love that. I love that about our show. It’s scary, believe
me, it’s scary. Because we sit in the control room just
like, you know, you sit at home on the couch and we’re
watching. And we think there might be a proposal and – but
you don’t know if Shawn’s going to get down on one knee and
you don’t know if Catherine’s going to say yes.
Lesley Messer: Right.
Chris Harrison: I mean, you really don’t know. You
have a good idea but you really don’t know. And so we’re
sitting in there crying or high-fiving and yelling just like
you are at home. And that’s when I look around and I say,
if the people that are as jaded as they can be in this
business – and we’ve done this since day one – are crying
and high-fiving and hugging, then to people at home this is
a good show.
Like, this is phenomenal TV
because I still care each and every time and I’m glued to it
when it’s happening in real life.
Lesley Messer: Right. Well, and I know – just to
(inaudible) what everyone’s been talking about, you
obviously mentioned and it showed on the previews that the
hometown dates look a little contentious and there’s
certainly drama between the women. Are there more ugly – as
you would say – TV moments to come?
Chris Harrison: There’s some ugly cries ahead. I think
one thing I would say, if you’re ever coming on the show,
like, work on your crying. You don’t want to be an ugly
crier. I don’t know how you can be an attractive crier but
I would work on that. It’s like, I would watch movies. How
do you, like, look cute and sob.
But, you know, there are some
emotional moments. I think the people that are left are,
you know, they’re into this. They’re 100 percent into
this. And they’ve kind of given up to this process and
really going for it. And so there’s a lot of emotions on
the line at this point.
I mean, it’s not, you know,
the fun – you know, like, Chelsie’s really the last one that
will say goodbye where, you know, he got a little emotional
but it wasn’t really about Chelsie as it was about the whole
just, you know, the whole process of having to say goodbye.
But from here on out, it gets
very personal because families are involved, love and
emotion and feelings. And life is really on the line now.
So, you know, from here on out it’s huge. And it’s, you
know, is – I hate to use the word dramatic but it is.
Lesley Messer: Thank you.
Cathy Rehl: We’ll take one more question, if
there is one.
Operator: Your final question comes from
(Laurie Peters) from “New York Splash.”
Laurie Peters: Hi, Chris.
Chris Harrison: Hello.
Laurie Peters: Glad to talk to you.
So how do you think – Lucy was
like a total odd-ball on the show. How do you think she’d
be on “The Bachelor Pad?”
Chris Harrison: Who’s that?
Laurie Peters: Lucy.
Chris Harrison: Oh, Lucy. She’d be awesome. I love
Lucy. I loved her spirit. I loved her having her around
the house. I mean, yes, she wasn’t right for Juan Pablo
but, if we do a “Bachelor Pad” or whatever, I would have
Lucy on anything. I just …
She was – I know some people
were taken by her, and. But what you see was not fake. And
that’s what I love. I mean, whoever you are, embrace it and
own it. And that woman knows who she is and, man, does she
And I love that. I love that
about her and I love having her around. She was a good
spirit to have around the house.
Laurie Peters: And you created a dating app and
(inaudible) and Patty Stanger are giving dating advice. So
what do you have to say about that and how’s that going?
Chris Harrison: I think I should call Patty and (get)
advice on my own life. But, yes, we did do an article, I
guess, together. We didn’t talk but, separately, we were
interviewed for that. And I read her advice and I’m like,
“Gosh. She’s good.”
And, you know, I just take
stuff that I’ve learned over the last 12 years and try to
apply it and all that good stuff. But, you know, it’s – I
just have been doing this for so long and I’ve heard so many
stories. And I listen and I watch, day in and day out. And
you can’t help but pick up on things that are happening in
people’s lives and learning about what people are looking
for and how it all works.
Laurie Peters: Would you go on “The Millionaire
Chris Harrison: I’ve never seen that. Is that – that’s
her show. I don’t think I would ever want to be on
television dating because I’m not that open. I know what I
do for a living but it really is, like I said, a
profession. I like what I do – hosting and producing – and
that’s my job and my life. But being on television isn’t
really my life.
And, like, opening my life
like that is not my life. But if Patty wants to help me
privately, I’m sure I could us the help.
Laurie Peters: OK. Great. Thank you.
Chris Harrison: Bye, guys.
Cathy Rehl: Thank you very much, everybody. We
will – if anybody needs anything else from us please email
either Mitch Messinger or myself or Phyllis Liu at Warner
Brothers and we look forward to you all seeing the next two
episodes on Monday and Tuesday night. And we’ll let you
know when the next call is. Thanks.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for
participating in today’s conference. You may now
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