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Interview with Nicole Beharie of
"Sleepy Hollow" on
FOX 11/13/14
Final Transcript
FBC PUBLICITY: Sleepy Hollow Conference Call with Nicole
Beharie
November 13, 2014/10:00 a.m. PST
SPEAKERS
Nicole Beharie
Kristen Osborne
PRESENTATION
Moderator: Ladies and gentlemen, we’d like to thank you for
standing by, and welcome to the Sleepy Hollow Conference
Call with Nicole Beharie. At this time, all participants are
in a listen-only mode, and throughout today’s call, we will
have a question and answer session. (Operator instructions.)
I would now like to turn the conference over to the hostess
and facilitator, Ms. Kristen Osborne. Please go ahead.
Kristen: Hello, thank you, everyone. I’m the publicist for
Sleepy Hollow. We’re very appreciative for everyone being
here today, and we’re very much looking forward to taking
your calls. So, please, as Stephen said, hit the *1 and we
can get this show on the road.
Moderator: Question will come from the line of Jamie Ruby of
SciFiVision.com. Please go ahead.
Jamie: Hello, thank you so much for talking to us today.
Nicole: Oh, it’s a pleasure, thank you. Thank you all for
showing up.
Jamie: Sure. Really loving the show. Can you first talk a bit
about Holly and what happened more just for the succubus, or
is that going to continue on, and do you think maybe it’ll
make him a little more receptive to helping without
expecting payment?
Nicole: Well, the nature of Holly’s character is he’s an arms
dealer, he’s like a black market dealer, so he should expect
to be paid for his time and everything. But, I think that
slowly the witness pair, Crane and Abbie, are both working
on pulling on his heartstrings. He sort of has warmed up to
Crane, I think you all saw in Club Twerk, when the succubus
actually took him over and then took him back to the docks
he realized that there are much bigger things at stake, and
that the money isn’t actually going to save him.
Then when it comes to Abbie, I think they have just a really
strange but kind of saucy relationship where she knows what
he wants and he knows what she wants, and they just kind of
barter and bargain to both get at least a semblance of what
they are looking for.
Jamie: All right, and then as a quick follow up, I noticed
how this season there seems to be a lot of things that are
more folklore type of things, like the wendigo and all that.
Are they going to be coming back into more of the demonic
things from the bible type of stuff again?
Nicole: Yes. There is a bit of that, I think, coming up in
the finale. We definitely go back to biblical storytelling,
especially when it comes back to The Headless Horseman and
the apocalyptic aspect of the show, but I’m personally
really loving all the different folklore, and we’re actually
even taking it—the episode that we’re shooting right now,
which is based on Hinduism and Buddhism, so we’re taking it
international in a way. Just exploring all the different
dark entities that all sorts of states or localities play
with. I personally think that’s really fascinating as I’ve
been doing it.
Jamie: Well, I’ve still been loving it either way, so thank
you very much.
Nicole: Thank you.
Moderator: Our next question will be from the line Meredith
Jacobs of BuddyTV. Please go ahead.
Meredith: Hello. Thank you for taking this call.
Nicole: Hi, Meredith.
Meredith: So, what can you tease about Abbie and Ichabod’s
investigation in Tarrytown in Monday’s episode? It looks to
be quite personal to Abbie and Jenny.
Nicole: Oh my goodness, please forgive me, I can’t hear you
very clearly.
Meredith: Can you talk about Monday’s episode? The
investigation in Tarrytown looks like it’s going to be
personal for Abbie and Jenny.
Nicole: Oh, yes. Monday’s episode is sort of a big episode
for the Mills sisters, and for Abbie as a witness. They
basically have to go back into their past, into places that
they don’t necessarily want to revisit, and discover and
really unhash and talk to even Crane. Especially with Abbie,
she doesn’t necessarily want to talk a great deal about her
past and the fact that her mother was in a psych ward, and
that she was in foster homes. She really is enjoying, even
though it’s difficult being a witness and having a purpose
and getting away from then, the power of being a witness is
really liberating for Abbie. And having to go back to the
childhood that was really troubling, and explore that, was
for me a very difficult journey, and I’m sure for the
character.
But, they end up finding out that—I can’t give the whole
thing away, but they end up finding out that there’s a
reason why they were basically dragged through the mud as
children in order to get them to this point where Abbie’s a
witness and Jenny is like this amazing kick-a** know-it-all,
all things occult, sort of PhD level specialist. So you sort
of see that, and the revelation that their mother was more
than just a psychiatric patient is one of the big payoffs in
the story. But there is a lot of darkness in their family’s
history that explore—I won’t give away exactly what happens,
but it’s a little bit of a ride, and kind of a tough one to
watch.
Meredith: And then, with the investigation at Tarrytown, does
that bring Irving back into the fold more than he has been?
Nicole: I certainly hope so. Absolutely, yes. Irving will
definitely be in Episode 209 and throughout. He’s definitely
going to be there a little bit more, but he was locked up.
The trouble is Henry Parrish is very sweet guy, so once he
was locked up, because of [indiscernible], when Henry
Parrish got him to sign that contract, we had to sort of—the
witnesses had to step back a little bit and figure out where
he stood, but in 209, you actually see quite a bit of Irving
in a way that you’ve never seen him before, and it’s really
gorgeous. He does some really gorgeous work in the episode.
Meredith: Okay, thank you.
Moderator: Our next question will come from the line of
Christine Piccolo of Blogcritic. Please go ahead.
Christine: Hello, Nikki, love the show. I’m definitely, I
think, the number one fan out there.
Nicole: That’s awesome. Thank you.
Christine: Sure. What was the toughest part about Monday’s
episode for you, from an emotional standpoint, and why?
Because it’s going to be very highly emotional, definitely.
Nicole: You know what is weird? I was thinking, like—I heard
that we were going to do an episode where the sisters were
going to get together and fight, and kick some a** like,
“Yes! Girls!” Like the two girls episode, I was so excited,
and then I read it and I was like, “Oh my god. This is going
to, like, really kind of cost them.”
The cool thing about the show is that the monsters are
personal. Everyone’s been giving Ichabod a hard time because
he’s having trouble with his family, and Abbie’s trying to
keep him on track, but it’s still personal, like who
wouldn’t be having those problems, you know? It’s still
compromising. All the situations really leave everybody in a
really uncomfortable and uncertain place.
And with this one, instead of them just getting together and
fighting a random monster, and you’re never going to win
with Ann, or whatever, we’re not really sure, and it’s so
personal because it’s a part of their history that they have
to discuss, and their families. And then, of course, there
are lots of lives at stake, and they have to make the right
decision in the nick of time.
Christine: Right. Well now, what if Abbie had to take Henry
out without the support of Ichabod, do you think she would
do it?
Nicole: Absolutely.
Christine: Okay. Yeah, I mean, you know, you’re right when
you say, Abbie has been so on task, and Ichabod’s focus has
been so, I guess, unfocused, because he’s dealing with
Katrina, and he’s dealing with his son. So, I think that’d
be interesting to see—how would you take him out if you had
to take him out?
Nicole: I don’t know, that’s for the writers. I don’t know,
there are some pretty interesting—for the remainder of the
season, you actually see them becoming a lot more, rather
than reactive, they’re proactive. So they’re sort of trying
to get ahead of Henry and Moloch, so I could see them
planning and doing all the little espionage by having
Katrina in the house, and doing all the little things that
you would do to win a war. They definitely become—it takes
us back to the first episode of the season, where they say,
“This is war,” like, we’re back on track in a sense, and
that’s really exciting to me.
Christine: Well I’m anxious to see the rest of the season.
Thank you so much.
Nicole: Thank you, thank you.
Moderator: Our next question comes from the line of Shawna
Jacobs of Crown Sista Magazine [ph]. Please go ahead.
Shawna: Hello, Nicole. First of all, I love the show, but I
want to dispute the last caller who said she was your
biggest fan because I’m pretty sure I am.
Nicole: Oh, okay, no fighting on the call.
Shawna: [Indiscernible] forty really good questions that are
all from the fandom. Is there any possibility that some time
during Season 2, either Mom Mills, or someone else from
Abbie’s past is going to maybe enlighten us on how Abbie
became a witness or how she was chosen to be a witness?
Nicole: Yes. I think if you tune into Monday’s episode coming
up, you’ll definitely get the beginnings of that
conversation. Lori Mills does show up in the episode, and
you find out that there is sort of a legacy that their
family has that I would never want to give away over the
phone right now. I think it’s going to be much more
satisfying for you to watch. But yes, there’s definitely
some of that going on, and hopefully a little bit more even
explained later on in the season.
Shawna: Okay, thank you. Also, fans really love you and
Jenny, and we know from last season that you sort of have
custody of her, and you guys are living together; is there
any possibility that maybe we’re going to see you guys in
your own space and your own home maybe, I don’t know,
watching Netflix and fighting over who’s night it is to do
the dishes?
Nicole: The funny thing is, this show sort of lives in two
places right now. It’s like the past and the present and
always running back to the past with all the historical
context and then the threat of what’s going on in the
present. But I like the sort of future that you think of—and
they can like, sort of, chill and bake and have moments
together. Yes, that sounds fantastic. There are definitely
some moments for our present in this episode that we’re
doing, like currently, there’s a little bit of singing
that’s going on [indiscernible].
Shawna: I’m very excited about that.
Nicole: Yes. Where we’re able to go out as a team, and you’ll
just see a little bit more of that, but there really isn’t a
lot of downtime either, you know? So, I don’t know if we’ll
be chilling out in Abbie’s apartment. One of the reasons
that they’re always in Crane’s cabin is because it’s
Corbin’s old place, and it’s actually sort of a post for all
of them, like an outpost for all of them.
So, yes, as far as her actual apartment, I don’t know, but
we’re definitely, after this episode on Monday, going to see
a lot more the sisters really being close and working
together. And that’s one of the huge things that happens in
this episode is that you see them butting heads, but not in
the same way as last season, they definitely get past a
great deal of their issues with this huge revelation.
Shawna: Okay, and finally, this is the big one from the
fandom, we’re all aware that you know of the Twitter hash
tag, #AbbieMillsDeservesBetter, were you shocked at the
outpouring of fans who really want to see your character
maybe explored a bit more? And also, I’m sure you’re aware
of the many tropes that surround African American women on
TV, you know everything from ‘the strong black woman’ to
‘the sassy black woman’ to the ‘sapphire nanny’? We were all
kind of wondering if you and the writers ever sit down and
try to see to it that Abbie never falls into those
stereotypes.
One huge thing with the fandom is, everyone wants to see
Abbie find love. You know, Katrina and Crane were reunited,
even Jenny got in a little lip lock with Harley, so everyone
really—they just want to know will Abbie find love? Will she
[indiscernible] strong black woman, “I don’t need a man, I
can do it all on my own.”
Nicole: So which question [indiscernible]. The one about
finding love or the stereotypes?
Shawna: Yes, I think just both of them because they kind of
go together.
Nicole: Well, I’m highly aware of that just because I’m an
actress and I’m African American, so I’m aware of that kind
of thing, those stereotypes. I’d actually been sort of
offline for a few weeks, sort of just been busy and not
really wanting to be online tweeting and every Monday night
we were at work, so I hadn’t been doing that, and then
suddenly, Sunday, I was like, “Oh, let me check out—” you
know, my friends are like, “You need to see this thing.”
And I saw that there were all these posts that Abbie
deserves better or Jenny deserves better, and even Katrina
deserves better. I think it’s just—we have amazing fans,
they’re so passionate, and I think that they really want to
see the female characters on the show be developed totally
in the way that some other shows have done, in the way that
everyone has expected from a show like this. And Abbie’s
been on the show since day one, as has Jenny and Katrina, so
there are people that have so many questions about where
it’s going, and I just really appreciate the passion, all
the questions from both sides.
There’s a side that feels like Katrina’s not being developed
in a way that she could be and all that kind of stuff, and
everyone has valid comments and it’s all respect and love,
and we just love the fact that everyone’s watching and they
care so much to say all these things. As far as going into
the writers’ room and discussing stereotypes and all that
kind of stuff, not necessarily. That hasn’t happened, but I
think that we’re pretty aware of it, and when little things
pop up, we just kind of give a little side eye, and say, “I
don’t really know about that. That might not work out so
well.”
And everyone is cool and really understands it. I think that
as far as the love thing is concerned, it’s funny because
this year on the show, there’s a lot of romantic
undercurrent going on, whereas last year there really wasn’t
any, but everyone was sort of imagining Crane and Abbie
together when there wasn’t, and now there’s a ton with
Harley and Katrina and Crane, so people are sort of desiring
that from Abbie but she is the one that’s being really
focused this year, and maybe she just has to wait for the
right guy.
Shawna: Okay, thank you.
Nicole: Maybe it just has to be the right guy.
Shawna: Okay, thank you so much, Ms. Nicole.
Nicole: I think there’s definitely a payoff for that. Yes,
thank you for your questions.
Moderator: Our next question will come from the line of
Monique Jackson of PopJunkieGirl.com. Please go ahead.
Monique: Hello, Nicole, thank you for taking the time for
answering so many questions.
Nicole: Awesome, thank you. Thank you for calling in,
Monique.
Monique: Well actually the fandom had a lot of questions on
my Twitter, but basically we wanted to know will we get to
see more of the back story of your character and Jenny’s
relationship?
Nicole: Well, in this episode on Monday, we are going to get
to see a great deal about at least where they’re coming
from. We’re going to see that Abbie’s mother—we’ll go into
the Tarrytown Psychiatric Hospital, where they last saw
their mother, and find out a lot about what happened with
them when they were children and why, so that’s a big part
of the episode. And also, there’s an element of setting up,
as children, these things happened in order to get them
where they are now. But that isn’t to say that there isn’t
like a really dark element to their history that perhaps
they don’t want to dig into.
Monique: Oh, okay.
Nicole: I’m trying to give you an answer without actually—
Monique: Yes, no spoilers, exactly. I have one quick
follow-up question, will we get to see more of the effects
that purgatory had on Abbie?
Nicole: I think that the characters are just so resilient.
They just had to sort of get it together. The purgatory
situation was really quick, right? It just sort of happened
and they popped out of it and had to keep going, and I think
that that is definitely symptomatic and true of people who
are in a battle situation. It’s like, there’s a horrible
thing going on but they didn’t even have the time to sort of
catch their breath at all, they just had to keep going. So,
I don’t necessarily think that we’re going to be exploring
what happened in purgatory, but there’s a he** of a lot of
fighting coming up that I think is as dynamic, and you’ll
get to see the witnesses come together and discuss a little
bit about their battle wounds, but not from purgatory, no.
Monique: Okay. Well thank you so much. I love the show. I’m
looking forward to Monday’s episode.
Nicole: Oh my goodness, thank you. Thank you so much for your
questions.
Monique: All right, thank you.
Moderator: Our next question will come from the line of Donna
Evleth of VoiceofTV.com. Please go ahead.
Donna: Hello, Nikki, this is Donna from VoiceofTV.com. How
are you?
Nicole: Hello, I’m lovely. Thank you for calling.
Donna: Just a quick question, the chemistry with you and Tom
on the set, I mean you’re kind of his straight man to—as
he’s discovering all the technology and [indiscernible],
does he adlib a lot, and there’s got to be times that you
just want to burst out laughing.
Nicole: There’s not a great deal of adlibbing. I think the
writers are really, really talented. They come up with it,
and Tom has a dexterity with language, so it feels very
natural, it feels like it’s being adlibbed, but those are
actually the lines on the page. They’re just kind of—he just
takes them off the pages and brings them to life.
As far as cracking up, there are a few moments where we die
laughing, but it’s normally not even the text, it’s just
little goofy things that we’ll do off set. Like, we have
these little warm-ups that we’ll do together, or actually in
the upcoming episode there’s a thing that we’ve been doing
off set as friends that we’re actually [indiscernible] on
camera. We’re doing like a karaoke thing—I won’t give it all
away, but yes, we have those little funny moments there, but
as far as the work is concerned, it’s actually scripted and
we tend to stay on course. I know, it’s kind of a boring
answer, but it’s true.
Moderator: [Indiscernible]
Nicole: I think I lost her. She didn’t like my answer. Just
like, “Goodnight.”
Moderator: All right, due to time constraints, our last
question will be from the line of Nicole Beharie with LA
Times. Please go ahead.
Terri: Hello, it’s Terri [ph] from The LA Times. You’re
Nicole:, I’m Terri.
Nicole: Hello?
Terri: Hello, Nicole, how are you?
Nicole: I’m lovely.
Terri: Good, thank you for taking time to speak to us. We saw
a little bit of a verbal smack down between Abbie and
Katrina this past episode, so I was wondering who you think
would win a real smack down between Abbie and Katrina.
Nicole: Oh, no, no, no. I just don’t even—why do the women
have to fight each other when they’re both on the same side?
I just don’t get it. Why does one have to—why can’t they,
why can’t Katrina just be like an awesome witch and do
amazing things, and Abbie do really well what she does, and
they unite? That’s what I want to see. I don’t necessarily
want to see them fighting one another. I think that they
probably have to work out the kinks in their relationship,
as a group, but hopefully there won’t have to be a smack
down. If there is a smack down, I’ll let the audience
decide.
Terri: There are a lot of shippers out there, quite
obviously, and I’m wondering if that whole concept intrigues
you, or exasperates you. On the one hand, where you could
see that people could feel that way and it might happen, or
on the other hand, you think, why do these—just because
they’re two beautiful people, why do they have to get
together?
Nicole: Thank you for the beautiful people comment, that’s
very nice. You should see me, I’m in my jammies right now,
so you probably wouldn’t—but I’m actually intrigued by the
idea. Not necessarily of them being a pair or shipped
together, but just the sheer interest and passion of the
audience, of the fans. I’m completely taken aback every
single week with the stuff that is sent in, whether it’s
artwork or commentary or things that I don’t even notice,
like, who noticed—how did they see all those details? Or
things that we take for granted as actors that nobody will
even care about, and then your audience actually says, “Hey,
we want more of this.” Or, “It does seem like there’s
something going on with them, there needs to be more—”
I’m just completely, honestly, touched, of late, that people
care enough to have so much to say about the show, you know?
Because they could just be like, “Yeah, they have great
chemistry, whatever.” But people are sort of fighting on
different sides, and one part of me is like, “Why does it
have to be political or weird about who’s doing what?” But I
just think it’s people caring about each character so much,
and that’s definitely a testament to the other actors work
and the writers and the whole upheaval, it’s really
entertaining from this end. It’s almost like you guys
entertaining us after we attempt to give you your jollies.
Terri: We do what we can. Love the show. It’s absolutely
awesome. Thank you so much.
Nicole: Thank you. Really, thank you.
Moderator: And I’d like to turn the conference back over to
Kristen and Nicole for any closing comments.
Kristen: I’d like to say, thank you to everyone for joining
us today and, Nicole, is there anything you’d like to say to
the reporters on the line?
Nicole: Yes. Thank you guys so much. Please tune in on Monday
and give us a little blast and just stay tuned. We have a
lot of great stuff coming up, and your questions were all
really amazing. Thank you for your time.
Kristen: Thank you.
Nicole: Goodbye.
Moderator: Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our
conference call for today. Once again, we’d like to thank
you for your participation in today’s Sleepy Hollow
Conference Call, and thank you for using AT&T. Have a
wonderful day. You may now disconnect.
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