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Interview with Executive Producer Joe
Mallozzi and stars Marc Bendavid, Anthony Lemke and Melissa O'Neil of "Dark Matter" on Syfy
6/8/15
I really wanted to go to this conference call interview,
but I was very sick the night before, so I couldn't get out
of bed...but it's a really great show. I saw the first
episode, so you should definitely read this interview and
make sure to catch the premiere!
NBC UNIVERSAL - SYFY
“Dark Matter”
Moderator: Gary Morgenstein
June 8, 2015 1:00 p.m. ET
Operator: At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to
the “Dark Matter” conference call.
All lines have been placed on mute in order to prevent any
background noise. After our speakers’ remarks, there will be
a question-and-answer session. If you would like to ask a
question during that time, simply press star, then the
number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to
withdraw your question from the queue, press the pound key.
I would now like to turn our call over to Gary Morgenstein.
Gary Morgenstein: Hi, everyone. Welcome. We are delighted
that “Dark Matter” premieres on Syfy on this Friday night,
June 12 at 10. And to talk about it, we have executive
producer Joe Mallozzi and star Melissa O'Neil. Welcome,
everyone.
Operator: All right. Your first question comes from the line
of Jamie Ruby: from SciFi Vision.
Jamie Ruby: Hi, guys. It’s great to talk to you. And I was
going to say, Joe, obviously I’ve asked you a lot by now.
So, I’m sorry. I’m like I can’t think of something new.
But, my question to you, Melissa, is actually something that
Joe had said to me. He was saying that you guys kind of
learned what was going on along with your characters and
that you guys would like, you know, read your scripts on the
phone right away to find out what happen. I’m curious, not
knowing ahead of time, did that make it more difficult for
the role? Or how did you feel about that?
Melissa O'Neil: I actually loved it. Being a first-time
performer on television, I didn’t really know what to
expect, and I – and I thought that it was such a lovely
thing to encounter that we were going through what our
characters were going through. At the same time, you know,
we were – we were discovering what was happening and how to
interact with each other in the exact way that our
characters would be doing it, you know. We were just piecing
it together as it came to us. But, I think that there is a
great bit of truth, you know, that’s happening on screen
that – you know, we’ve all done our homework to prepare our
characters as much as we could.
Jamie Ruby: Yes.
Melissa O'Neil: But, there is honesty that’s happening there
as we navigate that.
Jamie Ruby: OK. Great. And can you talk about kind of your –
the first time you worked with the cast because you guys
have really great chemistry together. Was that
instantaneous?
Melissa O'Neil: Thank you. I think that that has a lot to do
with Joe and Vanessa and Lisa Parasyn – what they did with
casting, you know. We do get along very well – all of us. We
have a lot of fun on and off screen, and I think that that
has a lot to – the credit goes to the lovely people that
chose us. Yes.
Jamie Ruby: OK. Great. Thank you, both of you.
Melissa O'Neil: Thank you.
Joseph Mallozzi: Thanks.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Robin
Burks from Tech Times.
Your line is open.
Robin Burks: Hi. Thank you for talking to us today.
Melissa O'Neil: Hi.
Joseph Mallozzi: No problem.
Robin Burks: “Dark Matter” is based on a graphic novel
published by Dark Horse. How much of the content from the
graphic novel can we expect to see on the series?
Joseph Mallozzi: You can expect to see all of it. Actually,
the comic book was based on, basically, the pilot that we
have envisioned. So, you know, it’s almost – you know, if
you read the first two issues of the comic book, it’s
almost, word for word, the first episode of the series. And
in episode – the issues three and four of the comic book are
very close to episode two. So, you know, in terms of
spoilers, you guys are going to get a sneak peek at episodes
one and two by reading the first two issues of the comic
book or, you know, as in the paperback. But then, after
that, all bets are off.
Robin Burks: OK. Great. Also, for those who aren’t familiar
with the comic book, how would you describe the series?
Joseph Mallozzi: You know, I would describe it as a sci-fi
series with a cable sensibility. You know, I’ve always been
a big fan of, you know, cable shows with twists and turns
and surprises, you know, that always leave you at the end of
the episode going, “Oh my god. I can’t wait until next – you
know, next week” and, you know, you get to the boards, you
discuss them or you go to work and, you know, it’s the first
thing you talk about in the morning. That’s the show I
wanted to create.
So, you know, it’s something that, you know, a lot of – a
lot of setups but a lot of payoffs along the way, you know,
the mystery at its heart. It has a sense of humor, kind of a
– it’s a fun, ship-based sci-fi (fuse) which something, I
think, fans have been dying for. But, at the end of the day,
it’s really about the characters and this great group – this
great, you know, group made up of this crew. And, you know,
I’ve often said viewers tune in for the hook but they stay
for the characters. And we’ve got an incredibly colorful
bunch of characters in this show.
Gary Morgenstein: And, excuse me – and we are joined by Marc
Bendavid and Anthony Lemke. Welcome, guys.
Melissa O'Neil: Hi, guys.
Robin Burks: OK. Thank you.
Melissa O'Neil: No. Do you want to ask that last question
again so the guys can hear it?
Robin Burks: Sure. How would you describe the series for the
people who are unfamiliar with the graphic novel?
Melissa O'Neil: Yes. I think that there is – the show – it’s
– obviously, it’s – there is no singing in it. But, it’s –
it has a quality like I want to call it a space opera. Do
you know what I mean? There is just so many wonderful things
happening and the story lines are fantastic. And the fact
that we’re an ensemble, you get to see a little snippet of
everybody’s past and where they might go. And I think that’s
really exciting. Everyone – there is – there is a person for
an audience member, you know. There is – there is a
character for any kind of audience member out there. It’s
great.
Joseph Mallozzi: Yes. One of the – one of the things that I
was really heartened by was, you know, just getting
reactions from people who watched the show for the first
time. And they all respond to different characters, which is
great. And, you know – you know, the sound guys and the
editors all – you know, when they first watched it, they all
responded. They love Jodelle’s character, you know. There
were those who love Roger’s character, who love Anthony’s
character. I mean, you know, those two early reviews, you
know, super positive reviews – they were – they loved
Melissa’s character. So, you know, it’s a testament of the
fact that there are so many colorful characters, very, you
know, different characters, but also a testament to our
fantastic cast who have brought them to life.
Robin Burks: OK. Well, I’m looking forward to seeing it.
Thank you.
Joseph Mallozzi: Thank you.
Melissa O'Neil: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Mary
Powers from TV Geek Talk.
Your line is open.
Mary Powers: Hi, there.
Melissa O'Neil: Hello.
Joseph Mallozzi: Hey, Mary.
Mary Powers: OK. There is been so many space dramas that
have been done. In fact, some other ones that are coming up,
we have “Killjoys” which premieres next week and then “The
Expanse” later this year. Why do you think that this series
is apart from the rest and what would you tell viewers to
get down to watch? I’ve watched the pilot, by the way, and I
love it. So, what could – would you tell other people?
Joseph Mallozzi: Well, it’s – first and foremost, it’s a
ship-based sci-fi which, I think, differentiates it from
anything else out there.
Mary Powers: Yes.
Joseph Mallozzi: Tonally, it’s a lot of fun. I mean, you
know, you watch this at the pilot and there’s more of that.
I mean, you know, at the end of the day, I think, you know,
fans, you know, like to tune in for the character and just
essentially to have a good time. And I think that’s what
we’re going to offer them.
And at the same time, you know, like I said, I’m not sure
how serialized the other shows are. But, our show is very
serialized in that, you know, I mentioned those twists and
turns and surprises.
Mary Powers: Yes.
Joseph Mallozzi: There’s going to be a lot of reward for –
you know, for the audiences who tune in. And, you know, it’s
funny. I mean, you know, I was developing this for so many
years that, you know, we’ve got like a great game plan. When
Paul and I and my writers sat down and developed the first
season, we had all the setups and payoffs. So, I mean, there
was this one big revelation at the – you know, late in the
season, I remember, and one of the actors come out and it’s
like, “Wait a minute. Was that a hint way back in episode
three?” And was like, “Yes.”
So, I mean, it’s kind of fun. It’s, you know – it’s – you
know, it’s the type of show that basically you can –
definitely binge-worthy – you know, binge-worthy but also
the type of show that, you know, when those little payoffs
come up along the way, you can go back to those earlier
episodes and kind of piece things together. So, I think, you
know, like I said, fun – that sense of humor, ship-based
and, you know, it’s just, I think, you know, very, very
binge-worthy.
Mary Powers: Great. I am really looking forward to it. I
love watching so far.
Joseph Mallozzi: Thank you so much.
Mary Powers: Thank you.
Melissa O'Neil: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Heather
MacLatchy from Dechelo Dixon.
Your line is open.
Heather MacLatchy: Hi, guys. Thanks so much for talking to
us today. I really enjoyed the pilot episode. I wanted to
ask – so, everybody goes through most – I’m not going to
spoil it for folks that haven’t seen it so I’ll ask in sort
of esoteric terms. So, through most of the episode,
everybody really has no perception of what they are. And
then, in the final moments, they have a perception imposed
upon them of who they actually were. Will we see them
challenged to go forward with a persona that they can now
write for themselves or to fall back on the persona that
they have been told they had previously?
Joseph Mallozzi: It will different for different characters.
Melissa O'Neil: Yes.
Joseph Mallozzi: And, you know, it’s interesting. I mean, I
just love – I always love this idea that, you know, people
make mistakes in their past – in their past and, you know,
they can, you know, move forward, hopefully, or sometimes
not. And, you know, it’s just – it’s fun to explore that
kind of journey with different characters. And like in real
life, it’s not going to be happy ending for everyone.
You know, I just – you know, as Melissa said, it’s just very
interesting in that, you know, like the audience, these
characters essentially start tabula rasa, right? And, you
know, you’re following along on the adventures with them.
But, I mean, if you take a look at – you know, in the pilot
episode, they – once they fall back, basically they are able
to sort of trigger certain aspects of their former self like
Melissa’s character to the way she takes command of the ship
and the way everyone lets her take command of the ship
really speaks to, you know, the strength of her character.
Melissa O'Neil: Yes. I think – I think that’s one of the
greater struggles that we have with the concept of this show
as our characters. It’s that, you know, we wake up and we
are who we are in that particular moment. And then, we are
confronted with these facts about who we were, and how do we
walk through our lives having everybody else who we don’t
remember know who we are, know what we are capable of and
treat us like that? You know, how do we move forward into
that kind of a landscape? It’s very interesting, I think.
Heather MacLatchy: Great. Thank you very much.
Joseph Mallozzi: Thanks.
Melissa O'Neil: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Courtney
Vaudreuil from Ohsogrey.com.
Your line is open.
Courtney Vaudreuil: Hi. First off, I watched the pilot and I
usually multitask when I’m watching these things and I
couldn’t stop like – I had to stop doing everything else to
watch the pilot. It was really, really good. So,
congratulations.
Joseph Mallozzi: That is a good sign. Thank you.
Male: Thank you.
Courtney Vaudreuil: You made me close my laptop. So, my
first question is the title, “Dark Matter.” What is that
referring to? And are we going to see that be incorporated
throughout the season?
Joseph Mallozzi: I guess it’s a darkness that resides in all
of us.
Courtney Vaudreuil: When you said that this is a ship-based
show, does that mean that there aren’t going to be going to
various planets very often? Is most of the drama going to be
actually taking place on the ship?
Joseph Mallozzi: No. It’s going to be a little of both. I
mean, you know, we have an amazing standing set and we’re
going to make use of it. I mean, you know, as is the case
with most of the ship-based shows like “Star Trek” or “Stargate”,
you know – or “Firefly,” the ship almost becomes a character
in itself, and we have like an amazing, amazing ship. But,
you know, we’re going to be getting off. We’re going to be
visiting planets. We’re going to be visiting space stations.
So, you know, it’s – we’re – it’s not – you know, we want to
avoid that claustrophobic feel. So, we’ll definitely be
opening things up.
Courtney Vaudreuil: And can the actors talk briefly about
their characters and kind of what they like about them and
what challenges there are in playing them?
Marc Bendavid: I can just in there. My character, One, is
really enjoyable to pay, for me at least, because he is
surrounded by people who have some kind of quick proficiency
at something and he is sort of is always falling on his face
like he always makes a mess of himself. You never see any
malice or vindictiveness really in him. But, for me, it was
fun to be around all these sort of like sexy, lightning-fast
action figures and sort of, you know, be the one whose jet
pack seems to be broken. Yes. You know, that, for me, was –
that, for me, was fun.
Melissa O'Neil: Could you – sorry. I got so amused by Marc’s
answer. What was the question?
Courtney Vaudreuil: Two – just – could you talk about your
roles doing kind of what you enjoy or what’s challenging
about her?
Melissa O'Neil: Yes. I – you know what’s interesting? One
time, we were doing a cast read-through. And we were sitting
around the cable room, and I think it was Anthony who
remarks that most people who are actors are actually the
younger sibling or the only sibling or – sorry – the only
child in a family. And as we went through on the table,
everyone was either a younger sibling or an only child,
except for me. It definitely caters well to who Two is in
that she very organically and actually takes on this
leadership role that everyone seems to just accept, you
know. Yes. She was so much fun. She is – she is direct and
straightforward and she gets to kick a lot of ass.
Anthony Lemke: It’s just like Three to show up late to a
party. I’ll jump in about Three. He is – if you heard
everything about – that Marc said about One, that’s pretty
much the opposite of Three. And if I could extend the jet
pack analogy, I’m the guy with the jet pack that works but
doesn’t always know the right thing to do with it. And
that’s the fun Three’s character, that he is impetuous and
he says what other people may or may not be thinking but
certainly what he is thinking that he shouldn’t say. And
it’s a lot of fun to play that kind of character and
especially within the context of a crew who – you know, each
of us is so well-defined. And, so, to be able to play that
role within this team is doing a lot of fun.
Courtney Vaudreuil: Wonderful. Well, thank you, all. I
appreciate it. It’s really, really a great show.
Melissa O'Neil: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Jamie
Ruby of SciFiVision.com.
Your line is open.
Jamie Ruby: Hi, guys. And I just forgot to say the first
time I very much enjoyed the pilot. Well, since you guys
weren’t on at the beginning when I asked my other question,
let me first ask the guys. I was curious about how you felt
not knowing everything ahead of time and kind of learning
along with the characters.
Joseph Mallozzi: Do you want to jump in there, Marc?
Marc Bendavid: Yes. I found that – I mean, it might seem
sort of contrary to what you often hear actors saying about
preparing their role. I found it really liberating and
unusual because there’s very little to go on. There’s very
little to prepare other than a kind of openness and to what
I would react like myself to these people in these
situations. So, there is no history. You know, at one point,
I asked, should I watch every episode of “Stargate” or “Star
Trek” ever produced. And he said, “No.”
And it seems like to be able to come to work with, you know,
in essence, given the other characters and the other actors
in the cast a real big say into how one ends up because he
is really torn until he encounters Two and until he
encounters Three and the rest of the cast. So, I actually –
I like it because it meant that we have to be on our toes,
listening to each other and just seeing where the scripts
took us and, you know, making a lot of decisions beforehand.
So, for me, I really enjoyed that, actually.
Anthony Lemke: Yes. I think – I think one of the things you
learn very early on in your acting career or in – when
you’re studying acting is that, you know, preparation is
key. You should – you should definitely answer all the
questions about your character. You should have done all of
that homework. And, then, when you show up on the first day
of shooting, you should forget it all and just play the role
and play the reality of the moment because that’s going to
be there.
And so, in a way – in a way, the forget it all part is where
we started. And that – just like Marc said, it’s incredibly
liberating and we were sort of discovering, you know, things
about ourselves as characters that – well, I can’t – I mean,
listen, we did have a lot of scripts, to be fair. We had a
fair number of scripts moving forward. So, you know, by the
first frame of camera, we were able to read, you know, three
or four, five, six, seven episodes ahead. And, so, at least
we knew that as our back story. “Listen, this is an
interesting piece of information that, you know, my
character doesn’t have on day one but me as the actor does
have.” So, there is – there is a little bit of that forward
prep that was – that was in – I think probably influencing
our day one shooting decisions as well.
Jamie Ruby: OK. And then, as a follow up, can you each
describe your character in three words and, for Joe,
describe the show in three words.
Male: Gosh. \what a great one.
Male: Awesome.
Male: Good luck, Joe.
Male: I would say fun, funny and exciting.
Jamie Ruby: OK.
Melissa O'Neil: For Two - She is strong, smart, a fighter.
Jamie Ruby: OK.
Anthony Lemke: I’d say Three – cocky, crass and caring,
surprisingly. That shall be answered as you watch the –
watch the show.
Jamie Ruby: OK. Great. Thank you so much, all of you.
Melissa O'Neil: Thank you.
Male: Thank you.
Male: Thanks.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Tom
Gardiner from threeifbyspace.net.
Your line is open.
Tom Gardiner: Hi, everybody. Thanks for taking the time. My
first question is for Joe. And I think I’ve asked you this
on Twitter. I’m a big “Stargate” fan and I couldn’t help but
notice that “Dark Matter” began sort of the way “Stargate
Universe” ended. Everyone went into spaceships on “Universe”
and then came out on “Dark Matter.” Was that a conscious
decision?
Joseph Mallozzi: You know, I started developing “Dark
Matter” way back when I was working in Atlanta. So, I have
no idea how – you know, we were going to do “Stargate
Universe,” much more how we would end it. You know, it was
coincidental. But, I mean, the first person who actually
brought it to my attention was actor Patrick Gilmore who
played Dale Volker on “Stargate Universe.” He was like,
“Wait a minute.” And I was like, “Aha, that is kind of
funny” because at the end of “Universe,” of course,
everything goes into spaces, you know, while they wait, you
know – how long this jump is going to take. And that’s how
we, you know, sadly, ended the series.
And I guess – you know, I guess it’s kind of appropriate in
that, I mean, just – you know, there is a definite heavy
“Stargate” influence on “Dark Matter,” just, you know, the
types of shows we used – you know, the type of rating – we
used to do it on “Stargate,” you know, relied heavily on the
humor. It was very character-driven, you know – you know, a
lot of fun. And, you know, at the end of the day, this
really focused on this team, this family. And it’s exactly
the same thing with “Dark Matter.” So, appropriately enough
– but, yes, it works out.
Tom Gardiner: Well, intentional or not, that was a nice nod.
Thank you. I thought it was a nice nod to the fans, whether
it was intentional or not. I just kind of smiled when it
started and enjoyed that. I have sort of a follow-up
question for Melissa. Is O’Neal your actual real name or did
you change it in order to get a better chance at being cast
in a show produced by people from “Stargate”?
Melissa O'Neil: Are there a lot of O something? Like that is
my real name.
Tom Gardiner: Yes. I’m sorry. It’s a reference to “Stargate
SG-1.” Jack O’Neill was the main character. And when I saw
O’Neil on your name, I – sorry about that.
Melissa O'Neil: No. It’s definitely my name.
Tom Gardiner: Well, I appreciate it. And I noticed it’s back
to back with “Killjoys.” It’s been a long time since we got
space shows on Syfy and now, all of a sudden, we have two
together. How do you guys feel about those guys being
grouped together in sort of a space night?
Male: I think it’s a fantastic idea and I’m so excited about
it. I think, you know, they – I haven’t seen “Killjoys,” but
it looks awesome from the pilot. And I know a couple of
people from the show and, from what I hear, it’s going to be
great. So, I mean, yes, I don’t really think there’s such
thing as competition. Maybe my naiveté is talking there.
But, I think it’s so great when people enjoy something and
they want more, you know, and be able to have it and, you
know, in a basic sense, I hope they’re going to enjoy our
show and want more and get another one.
Male: Yes. I mean, (inaudible).
Male: (Inaudible).
Male: Yes.
Male: Go ahead.
Male: No. I’m just saying it’s great. I mean, at the end of
the day, we are all in the same team, right? I mean, we want
them to do well so that we can do well. And you know – you
know, it’s nice for Syfy to sort of rebuild like sci-fi
family lineup like in the old days where there will be “Galactica,”
“Atlantis” and, you know, “SG-1”. Now, with – you know, with
– it’s “Dark Matter,” “Killjoys” and “Defiance” and it’s
great.
Male: Let’s be serious, guys. I’m just looking forward to
the day when we get to cross in our universe and kick some
bounty on our ass, really.
Melissa O'Neil: Right.
Male: Or it might be the other way around.
Male: Yes.
Male: That’s my point. Do you see what I’m saying? My god.
Yes. Not that there are any spoilers involved in this press
conference. But, let’s just say that, you know, our crew in
“Bounty Hunters” might have some to say to each other.
Anyway, not here nor there, Joe.
Joseph Mallozzi: Yes. Like I love you, maybe, Anthony.
Anthony Lemke: Yes. Like – maybe. You just never know. Yes.
Tom Gardiner: If I could be indulged one last question, I’m
just curious if there are any plans to have any old
“Stargate” faces as guest stars in the future.
Male: Probably.
Joseph Mallozzi: Yes. Absolutely. We brought David Hewlett,
who played Rodney McKay. He plays the part of Tabor Calchek,
who is the team’s handler. So – Torri Higginson, who played
Elizabeth Weir on “Stargate Atlantis” is going to be
Commander Delaney Truffault, one of the corporate ships. And
I have a couple of other guest stars in mind for season two
that I can’t reveal yet. But, “Stargate” fans are in for a
treat in that respect.
Tom Gardiner: Indeed. Thank you for your time.
Male: Thanks.
Melissa O'Neil: Thank you.
Male: You’re welcome. Thank you.
Male: Take care. Thanks.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Robin
Burks from Tech Times.
Your line is open.
Robin Burks: Hello again.
Melissa O'Neil: Hello.
Male: Hi.
Robin Burks: Joe, you were talking about this being a
ship-based drama. Usually, I shows like that, the ship is
actually kind of another character. Can you talk a little
bit about this ship on the series and how it plays under the
tone and feel of “Dark Matter”?
Joseph Mallozzi: Yes. I think the ship is a reflection of
the characters. I mean, you know, we wanted – you know, when
designers designed the ship, we wanted something kind of
badass, you know, kind of smaller – I mean, I describe it as
almost like a – like a – like a little gold box, you know,
just retrofitted with weaponry. She has a lot of experience,
a lot of battle scarring, but it’s the type of ship that you
kind of look at—and easy to underestimate—but, in battle,
more maneuverable, a lot more savvy. The hero ship doesn’t
get the upper hand on ships because of its size. And I think
that, you know, the ship is a reflection of all our
characters who – you know – you know, you don’t know very
much about them on the surface but, as you dig deeper, you
know, there is – there is a richness there and aspect that,
you know, will surprise.
Anthony Lemke: I think that – I was going to jump in here as
well if I can, just really quickly because one of the things
I noticed from – as an outsider is reflective – was that –
you know, often, you see ship-based shows and they’re being
driven kind of like – kind of we drive our own cars today by
the folks involved. And it’s not always the case. But, we
have – you know, our interaction with the ship can be very
manual in that way. But, it also goes through the android
character.
So, in a way, as an actor looking at what the ship is, you
know, the android was a real sort of interface with the ship
for us for a lot of reasons. And, so, the ship, in a way,
almost has its own character as well through the character
of the android, which is, you know, an add-on to the ship
but is definitely integral in the ship’s – in the ship’s
system. So, to me, that’s just a neat little point that Joe
brought in there.
Male: Yes. It’s interesting, Anthony thinks that ...
Melissa O'Neil: That was actually my second question. It’s
how the actors interacted with the ship and how they found
that.
Male: Yes. Primarily, it’s through the android that we
interact with the ship in terms of commands and, you know –
Two, I’ll let you – Melissa, I’ll let you talk a little bit
more about that because, you know, being the leader, you
interacted a lot more with the ship and the android than I
did. That’s for sure.
Melissa O'Neil: Yes. There was a lot of – a lot of what Two
does with the android is she was basically trying to pick
the android’s brain and figure out how to get things done.
But, when we’re in a battle situation and things need to
happen quickly and efficiently, once there was a basic trust
that was established, you know, a lot of the time we – or,
rather, Two just instructed the android to watch himself if
he was right in that particular moment. But, we work in
tandem a great deal to navigate but mostly to make – tackle
out decisions when we are in space battle.
Male: I think Anthony brings up an interesting point that
the android is a reflection of the ship in a way. I think
it’s not a – it’s not an accident that he will be one among
us who knows how to fly the ship and Melissa and, in a weird
way, it feels like the ship is, in a sense, kind of mother
to the crew. There are a lot of mysteries about the ship
that we don’t know yet, that we don’t understand, and we
can’t quite compute how they influence and inform our
personalities.
But, in a strange kind of way, the ship takes care of us.
And Melissa being the person who sort of runs the show and
being the de facto mother of the – of the crew, I think it’s
a – I think it’s a sort of beautifully mysterious reflection
of that relationship, you know. Sometimes the ship is really
angry. Sometimes the ship seems to save our butts in the
last second. So, yes, I think this is no accident that
Melissa is at the controls.
Male: And when – I mean, listen, it’s both mother and
warrior in a way. I mean, I remember reading a fantastic
book called “Wired for War” that’s all about, essentially,
artificial intelligence and robotics in warfare. And it’s
pretty clear that, you know, the technology currently exists
for F16 robotic AI pilots to essentially, 100 percent of the
time, beat humans.
So, if that exists today, then take that out into the future
and ask yourself how much the humans would be involved
versus how much the robots and artificial intelligence would
be involved in any warfare or dogfight scenario. And that’s
– you know, I think that’s something that Joe has dealt with
that unfolded really, really well in the show, that that –
you know, asking the question of what is the place of the
human not just in warfare but in a society where there are
these other beings that exists that we have created that, in
a lot of ways, can beat the snot out of us. I mean, you
know, to be crass – and I think that’s an interesting and
central element to, you know, thematically to the whole
show.
Robin Burks: OK. Thank you.
Male: Thank you.
Melissa O'Neil: Thank you.
Male: Thanks.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Kyle
Nolan from NoReruns.net.
Your line is open.
Kyle Nolan: Hi. Thanks for taking time to talk to us. Can
you guys talk – can you talk about like the relationship
between the characters because they seem to get along really
well when they’re strangers but, then, there’s some butting
heads of One and Three by the end and how that relationship
is going to change once they know the truth about their past
and do they trust each other anymore or does it make them
trust each other more or how it evolves?
Male: I think trust – I mean, you’ve nailed – the word trust
is – that’s another one of the central elements of the
entire first season, really. And it ebbs and flow. I mean,
if you wake up without any memories or any knowledge of who
you are or who your friends are or who your enemies are and,
you know, if that notion of trust becomes paramount to
keeping the team together and just staying alive – and, I
think, you know, that’s something that the characters
struggle with throughout the entire show, without a doubt.
Male: Yes. There is going to be, you know, constantly
shifting alliances. But, it’s kind of very interesting the
way some of these early relationship form or don’t. Like
right off the bat, you know, One and Three clearly, –
whereas, you know, the character of Six played by Roger
Cross instantly bonds with the character of Five, played by
Jodelle, which is like just a wonderful relationship. You
know, it goes back to this idea that, you know, even though
their memories are wiped, you know, those instincts remain.
And so, you know, you can get a sense of what these people
were or, you know – or the types of relationships that
existed prior to them entering phases very early on.
Kyle Nolan: And, Joe, you had mentioned like season two. I
know – I don’t think anything is going to be announced yet.
But, so, are you planning – are you planning one complete
arc for this first season so it tells one complete story? Or
are we going to get one of those like SG-1 cliffhangers and
keep our fingers crossed for the second season?
Joseph Mallozzi: You know, I approach each season as a – as
a – as a book in a – in a series. So, the definite
beginning, middle and end, like a season-long arc, is not to
say it’s not going to end in necessarily a cliffhanger but,
I mean, you know, very early on, we established some – we
have some questions that get established very early, you
know, versus about the mind wise, and what’s going on. And
as the season progresses, you know, we begin to peel the
onion on these various characters and their back stories and
who they are and, essentially, the mixed views of how they
ended up on that ship and what happened to them.
You know, one of the things that I promised fans is we are
not going to be the type of show that is going to ask a lot
of questions and then leave then unanswered. We are going to
ask a lot of questions, we’re going to keep asking a lot of
questions, but we will pay them off along the way and in the
most satisfactory fashion.
Kyle Nolan: Great. Thanks. I’m really looking forward to the
season.
Joseph Mallozzi: Thanks.
Male: Thanks.
Melissa O'Neil: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Tim
Holquinn from Screen Card.
Your line is open.
Tim Holquinn: Hi. My first question is for Joe. Amongst the
“Stargate” fandom, there was a bit of a division between
those who really like “Stargate Universe” versus those who
thought its tone was a little too dark in comparison to the
previous “Stargates.” Considering this is “Dark Matter,”
would you say the show aligns a lot more with the tone of
“Stargate Universe” than the previous ones – previous “Stargates”?
Joseph Mallozzi: You know, I want to say, basically, it
falls somewhere in between because one of the things that,
you know, “Universe” did so well is it dealt with kind of
the bigger issues. In our series, there is a bigger issue
of, for instance, redemption. You know, are people born bad?
In that respect, it’s a lot like “Universe” in terms of tone
and in terms of look. And yet, you know, one of the things
that I know a lot of fans were missing on “Universe” was
that sense of humor that really marked “Atlantis” and
“SG-1.”
But, that’s what we have, you know – you know, it’s one of
the biggest, I think, characteristics of this show, “Dark
Matter.” It’s its sense of humor. It’s – you know, I keep on
emphasizing fun. And, you know, “Atlantis” was fun, “SG-1”
was fun. Maybe some fans did not consider “Universe” fun
because it was a little dark. It was a little slow to get
going, you know, more introspect, a little claustrophobic,
which basically “Dark Matter” is not. So, “Dark Matter” is
fun. So, I think, you know, for “Stargate” fans, if you love
“Atlantis” and “SG-1,” I think you’re going to love “Dark
Matter.” And, frankly, if you love “Universe,” you’re going
to love “Dark Matter.” It’s the very best of all three
shows.
Tim Holquinn: That’s great to hear. I was a big fan of
“Universe,” as well as the previous incarnations. But, I
like the darkness and introspection. And – OK. And as a
follow up, you describe the show often as fun and,
obviously, mysterious. What about the level and types of
action viewed might be able to expect? Will the action,
whatever level there is, be comprised mostly of ship-to-ship
combat or hand-to-hand fighting or equal measures of both?
Joseph Mallozzi: We do it all. There’s gun play. There is
hand to hand. There is ship-based action types. First of
all, I want to talk about the visual effects of the show. We
brought in our guys from “Stargate.” Lauren Bancroft-Wilson
and Mark Sevilla have been working through the atmosphere.
And, you know, our show – our visual effects, I think, are
second to none. We just ran a real efficient production. We
put the money up on screen. And I put our visual effects up
against any other show out there. They look fantastic.
The gunplay has been fantastic. We have a great stunt
coordinator in John Stead, who coordinated some fantastic
gunfights, for instance, in episode one or two which,
hopefully, you will see sooner than later. It’s all
unbelievable, A, because John Stead is so amazing but also
because the actors are so amazing.
And here, I asked to talk about Melissa O'Neil, who, you
know, goes in there on the weekend and basically works on
the choreography and does such a phenomenal job that when we
are in the editing room, you know, in other shows, you would
basically have to cut to the stunt woman, you know, to make
it more convincing. But, because Melissa is so good at what
she does. And, you know, occasionally, we’ll cut in for the
close ups. But, I mean, you know, for the most part, you
know, when you see the fighting up on screen or Two fighting
up on screen, that’s Melissa.
Tim Holquinn: That’s good to hear. I look forward to it. For
Melissa and the boys, one quick question. Was there any
standout stunts or, perhaps, even injuries that are most
memorable for you from the season?
Male: Well, I’m missing a leg. But, that’s episode 10. So,
when you get there.
Melissa O'Neil: So, there’s a huge fight that we do in
episode 10 or I think it’s actually episode 11. And there
was this big – this was this flying move where you like
lunge and you travel like 4 feet across the floor to get to
the – my opponent. And in the rehearsal, I nicked the girl’s
toe like she was a little bit too close or I went too far
and I did this – it was practically a Home Alone fall, which
is – it’s named after it, where the guy goes right up into
the air and you got one leg up when you land. And I landed
on the floor in our medical room which – the floor in the
medical room has all of these intricate geometric patterns
on it. And it imprinted onto my palm and it didn’t go away
like there was this massive blood blister on my palm in this
beautiful like geometric print.
Anyway, it was gone about a week after we were done
shooting, like four other episodes had to go by and a week
of time off before it finally went away. It was so weird but
really cool-looking. There is a picture of it on my
Instagram.
Tim Holquinn: Cool.
Male: Marc, tell your injury story.
Melissa O'Neil: Yes. Your feet.
Marc Bendavid: We got to this beautiful set when we all sort
of, you know, gawked at in admiration. And the floor of it
was, you know, so – like Melissa said, beautifully intricate
with geometric shapes, you know, carved out of hard plastic.
And when we got – when we got to work on the first day, you
know, Joe and Paul said, you know, “You come off stages
barefoot,” you know, because we leave shoes in the stages.
And, so, we need to shoot this scene of you and Melissa
running down the hallway of the ship, which because it’s
broken, is dark and covered with little bits of spark and
fire, and we need to shoot it for the entire day. And, so,
by the end of the day, Melissa and I had sort of hobbled
ourselves, with bloody feet running back and forth across
the hall. [Melissa] never complained about it once and, you
know, I’m still harping about my bloody feet six months
later.
Male: And Anthony?
Anthony Lemke: Yes. Listen. You know, in terms of bruises,
like the ego is probably the biggest thing that got bruised
in a fantastic fight with Ruby Rose that my character has
that – you know, one of the things that John Stead does so
brilliantly well is – you know, yes, he is a great fight
coordinator and, to be honest, we don’t actually have a lot
of injury stories.
And that’s thanks to John Stead, you know, his preparation.
He will never let anybody get in there without 100 percent
preparation that he feels like – you know, he feels like
someone may be getting – you know, getting a little tired or
sloppy or, you know, a stunt person goes in there and
there’s top out. You know, it’s – he is fantastic. And he
tells stories with his fights and his choreography as good
as, if not better, than anyone I’ve ever worked with. And he
is – he is wonderful and there is a – there is a – there is
a fun fight with – between Three and the Ruby Rose
character. And that’s the one that – yes. Well, I’ll just
leave that one up there as probably my highlight fight of
the entire – of the entire season for my character.
Tim Holquinn: Well, thanks for that teaser. Thanks for doing
the call today.
Anthony Lemke: Thank you.
Male: Thank you very much.
Melissa O'Neil: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Tony
Tellado from Sci-Fi Talk.
Your line is open.
Tony Tellado: Hi, guys. And, Joe, congratulations. I’m
really happy for you.
Joseph Mallozzi: Thanks, Tony.
Tony Tellado: In particular with you, Joe, I know you have a
plan as to what you want to do. Is there – is that a rigid
plan with the series as far as the art? Or as these guys
kind of inhabit the characters a little more, is there a
plan to kind of maybe deviate a little bit based on who they
do their performance?
Joseph Mallozzi: Sure. That – you know, there is always, you
know, room for movement. I mean, I have kind of the general
idea of where I want to go. You know, just in terms of going
to season – you know, the first season, you know, we were
super prepared. We have the majority of our scripts already
done. And then, you know, we made adjustments along the way.
And, you know, one of the things that we are – we are – you
know, we are doing – and as we build stories for season two,
again, assuming we get season two – but, I’m fairly
confident – is, you know, just going off what the cast has
done.
And, you know, essentially, you create these characters, you
know, they’re on the page and then you hand them off and,
then, they really come to life. And, you know, it’s – you
know, you create the characters, you know, you see on the
page. But, you know, the actors bring so much to them in
develop them and they re-evolve in their performance and as
you inform moving forward, it gives you ideas. I mean, you
know, a lot of our ideas for season two – these stories for
season two come about as a result of something like they
could be – the standout moments that these guys have brought
to the show and just the types of relationships and the
chemistry.
Tony Tellado: That’s great. And, guys, for the actors, you
know, it’s kind of like everybody always got along. And it’s
great that in your show, you guys don’t get along. And what
I liked in the pilot was there was a little bit of debate
that you guys have amongst each other based on your
characters. Kind of talk about that aspect of the show
that’s a little different from most of the space-bound
shows.
Melissa O'Neil: I had – I had a great start with Paul, our
other writer and executive producer, about this. And he was
talking about how when they were developing – or Joe – like
this type of moment – that a lot of sci-fi shows in that
past have talked about how humans were – you know, it was a
bit utopian society – everyone was getting along – and that
they wanted to bring back this idea that, you know, the
conflict isn’t going to come from external sources. It’s
going to come from within each other as we’re fighting for
resources, we’re fighting to stay alive when we are not on
the planet anymore.
We are in space, you know. And I think that that’s – it’s so
honest and great and real. And it allows us to be humans
because we’re not always going to get along because we don’t
in life. And trying to navigate that when you’re dark
essentially on this, you know, life preserver in the middle
of space, our beloved ship, you know, how do you – how do
you figure out how to co-exist with these essentially – you
know, six other strangers? It’s wonderful.
Male: In episode – yes. Sorry. I was just saying that in
episode one or two, like, you know, Roger’s character points
out, you know – you know, we’re on our own. We have no
memories. So, basically, we’ve got our former enemies coming
after us or our former victims coming after us, the galactic
authorities. Who else – who knows who else we – who have got
to come after – who are going to come after us, none of
which we’ll see coming because we don’t remember them. And
at the end of the day, you know, they only have each other
to rely upon. It’s really the most extreme of dysfunctional
families. Like it or not, you know, they’re – you know,
they’re family.
Tony Tellado: And, Marc, I already see like a little bit of
a moral compass for the show in your character, a little bit
in One.
Marc Bendavid: Yes. I hope – I hope you do. Well, the
interesting thing, from the standpoint of getting along,
that there’s so many reasons presented so fast for us not to
trust each other. But, this encounter with our eventual – I
don’t want to give too much away – with the android is that,
you saw, it didn’t turn out well. We find out things at the
end of the episode that would suggest that we’re maybe not
going to be compatible. And, at the same time, it becomes
clear that with all the people who are after us, the only
way we stand even a slim chance of survival is getting
along.
And, so, it’s constant play which continues throughout the
season between who is this person and what do I need to know
about them to trust them and can I trust them less or not
and can I, you know – and that question gets asked in life
or death situations all the way – all the way to episode 13.
And I – and I think we learned that that kind of negotiation
– you know, it’s not important to get along if you can trust
– if you can trust one another and, you know, maybe go out –
go out getting along the other way – go out of it backward,
inside-out, you know, shoot first and ask questions later.
So, yes.
Male: I think that ...
Anthony Lemke: And I think it’s a – it’s a testament –
sorry.
Male: Sorry. Anthony, I was just going to say that I thought
you’re definitely channeling a little bit of Han Solo in
there.
Anthony Lemke: Well, if – you know, I’m flattered that that
would be – that would be a reference to Three when people
watch it. It would – you know, growing up as a kid, that was
definitely a boyhood idol, you know, the Han Solo character
and not so much there as in Ford but literally the Han Solo
character. So, to be able to play this character was, you
know, really, honestly, a bit of a dream come true. It’s a
character that I feel very comfortable in.
And what I like about it, you know, exactly – we laugh
because, you know, he is – he is a jerk. He is an arrogant
prick in a lot of ways. But, he isn’t what he seems to be,
which is the case for absolutely everybody in the show. They
aren’t what they seem to be. And I think it’s a testament to
Joe and Paul’s writing that, yes, you’re right to pick up on
the fact that, you know, one is definitely the moral compass
of the show. But, just because it’s the moral thing to do
doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do.
And I think Joe and Paul played with that brilliantly well
where they don’t let you – they don’t let you side with any
one character for the entire episode – for the entire
season. They just don’t do it. I mean, it’s – you know,
where Three – listen – Three runs off of the mound and comes
up with a crazy old man or crazy schemes but some of which
are based in a very pragmatic sense of survival. And it may
not be the moral thing to do, but it may just be the thing
that allows you to be moral tomorrow because you’ll still be
alive.
And, I think, the dialogue between morality and this more
utilitarian vision of our existence is one of – again, one
of the really interesting elements of this show. And, you
know, definitely, One is on one side, Three is on the other
side and Two – I mean, it’s interesting. Melissa, you can
talk to that. But, Two I would not say picks either of those
camps. And Two sort of says, “Listen. There is a right
moment for everything.” And it’s fascinating to watch that
interplay.
Tony Tellado: Yes. Absolutely.
Melissa O'Neil: Yes.
Tony Tellado: The pilot rocked. I thought it was great and
the WTF moment at the end was I didn’t see it coming. So,
that was great.
Melissa O'Neil: Nice.
Tony Tellado: So, that was cool. Good luck, guys. I think
it’s going to be a lot of fun to watch.
Male: Thanks.
Male: Thank you, Tony.
Melissa O'Neil: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Chris
Quan from Today Sci-Fi TV.
Your line is open.
Chris Quan: Hi, everybody.
Male: Hello.
Chris Quan: Joe, you mentioned that you had – you had an
open gender casting.
Joseph Mallozzi: Yes.
Chris Quan: So, since the characters already existed in the
comic book, why did you decide to make the changes that you
did?
Joseph Mallozzi: Just one of the best actors for role at the
end of the day and, also, you know, to redress what I felt
was a bit of a gender imbalance in the comic book. I mean,
you know, like I said, we opened this to all genders and all
ethnicities, specifically the roles of Four, the
sword-wielding Four and the android. And we got some
fantastic, you know – a thousand possibilities, you know,
both male and female for both. But, ultimately, I think we
found the right actors for the role and, you know, in the
comic book character, Four is male.
You know, it’s somewhat different from Alex Mallari Jr. who
just nailed the part with an audition that was so controlled
and nefarious that, you know, it just sort of blew me away.
And, then, Zoie Palmer, who is playing a character so
unlike, you know, her character in “Lost Girl,” she came in
and I talked about her where she came in and we were
discussing the fact that, you know, one of the actors that
came in, he was British and so he gave the android with a –
with a British accent. And I’d say, you know, the way I
describe the android is less sort of like a – really a robot
and more of, you know – that polished efficiency. And Zoie
was like, “I can – I can do a British accent.” And so, she
did one version with a British accent. And she was like, “I
can also do a Jamaican accent.” And I was like, “Do it.” And
she does Jamaican accent. That was like, “Aha, this is
interesting.”
So, file that Jamaican-accent story away and we’ll talk
about it later on in the season. But, you know, she brings
something just so great to the character. I mean, there is –
you know, people come to – there’s certain expectations one
has with the android character and, you know, her character,
you know, answered those expectations and yet she brings a
certain, you know, earnestness and childlike wonder and joy
to the performance that, I think, you know, will make her an
instant fan favorite.
Chris Quan: Great. Also, have you all been surprised by the
online fan support for the show so far?
Male: Yes. Absolutely. It’s been fantastic. I mean – yes.
You know, we do – we do – we do on our side. And it’s a
whole heck a lot of the work. But, it’s not all the work.
And the last – you know, the last and most important 10
meters of the race happens with – you know, when a dialogue
happens with the audience. And in a very real way, I mean,
especially with all the social media presence that exists
today, you know, it is – it is a two-day dialogue and we
need as many people to get involved in that dialogue as
possible.
And I know for a fact – I mean, Joe, you can speak to this –
that the input that happens on social media and otherwise at
the cons and whatever else, it actually does affect the
manner in which the stories evolve in the future, you know,
which characters are popular and the audience are responding
to, which storyline the audience is responding to. And so,
really, this is – you know, we’ve handed the baton off and
it’s up to you – up to you, guys, at this point in time.
Male: Yes. I mean – in my – I’m of the opinion that most of
it is backward. But, we need to do our own story where
essentially we would hold off all the visuals, you know, all
the – you know, the behind-the-scenes stuff until after the
show airs. And at that point, you are already preaching to
the converted. What I wanted to do is just front load
everything I want – you know, concept work out. I want the
design workout that I want. You know, I’m on my blog. I blog
every day. I’ve been blogging for eight years. I talk about
the show, you know, our fantastic cast, the production,
behind-the-scenes pictures. I want the audience invested
early so that they can feel a part of the show, you know,
from the get-go so they can take ownership of the show ...
Male: That’s it.
Male: ... even before it starts so that, you know, when the
show airs, they can say, you know, “We knew it. We were
there from the very beginning.” And that’s really, you know,
what we were ramping up towards. And, now, we’re going to
bring it home in this – in this final week. It was kind of
rally the troops.
Chris Quan: Thank you. It definitely seems to be working.
Male: Thanks.
Male: We’re happy to hear it.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Aimee
Hicks from Spoiler TV.
Your line is open.
Aimee Hicks: Yes. Thank you, guys, for talking with us.
While I was watching the pilot, it was very well
constructed. But, I was fascinated to see that Two looked
really organically. What went into the decision to make Two
the leaders and why not one of the guys?
Male: What was the last part of the question?
Aimee Hicks: Why do you think they all followed her so
easily?
Male: OK. Cool.
Male: She is so adorable. I mean, look at her. But, I just
want to – I just want to point that I – there is something
about – there is something about the charisma of our – of
our number Two which makes it hard when you watch her even
when she is being a total – totally unfriendly, not to just
do what she says. And yet, she owned it so beautifully
throughout the season.
Anyway, I hijacked Joe’s question. Go ahead.
Joseph Mallozzi: No. But, that’s – but, that’s exactly it. I
mean, she has a leadership quality that the other recognize
right off the bat. And I remember, you know, we saw 200 –
over 250 actresses for the role of Two. And it was – it’s
such a tough role because, you know, as the commander, the
ship’s commander, she has to be strong without being
unlikable yet she has to possess a certain empathy that
allows her to connect with the crew but not to the point
where it makes her look weak.
And it was one of the things that, you know, Melissa and I
discussed very early. It was that, you know – you know, it’s
a fine walk. You know, you are walking that fine line, and
Melissa just does it so well. And, you know – you know, one
of the things – I mean, I’ve always been a big fan of
sci-fi, whether literature or television. And I just kind of
like the idea of creating these – I guess, these archetypes
and then kind of undermining them like, you know, with the
android, like I said, fulfill certain obligations, whatever
an android does but is almost like a picture and child at
that time, where she was saying, “No, show me, show me.” And
then, basically, when she gets real and it’s a panicky
situation and she kind of turns around smiling, “Do you want
me to show you?” I mean, that’s – you know, that’s the
character.
And the same thing with – you know, we’ve seen so many,
males commanding and in charge, which are some very
memorable characters. But, they are very few female
commanders, you know, in sci-fi. I mean, Janeway comes to
mind from Voyager, you know – frankly, it’s just something
different and, you know, something you see a lot of,
frankly, in anime – Japanese anime, which heavily influenced
the development of “Dark Matter.” So, you know, that’s where
it came from.
Aimee Hicks: Yes. And, I guess, a follow for that is,
Melissa, this is your first role in the television world.
What drew you to “Dark Matter” in this character?
Melissa O'Neil: Oh my god. Yes. I say oh my god because I
feel – it’s funny because after having done – been in her
shoes for, you know – well, I don’t know – four or five
months, the line gets a little bit blurry because you are
just trying to respond naturally. She is just – she is smart
and she is compassionate and she is so firm about her
thoughts and her decisions, you know. She doesn’t waver
much, and I respect that. And, beyond that, when I’m looking
at the decisions that she is making, I agree with them for
the most part as myself. So, I don’t feel like it’s too much
of a leap other than she rocks a furrowed bow quite often.
But, the credit goes to my agent. He – you know, he
definitely was the one who saw the casting notice and he
sent it out to me and pushed me to audition and get myself
out of New York to come back for this. And for that, I am
forever grateful. It’s a wonderful, wonderful part and I’m
absolutely honored that I get to be in her shoes.
Aimee Hicks: Well, thank you, guys. It’s going to be a great
show, I think. Very promising.
Male: Aimee, thanks for the awesome preview review.
Aimee Hicks: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Heather
MacLatchy from Dechelo Dixon.
Your line is open.
Heather MacLatchy: Hey, guys. So, in listening to the
conversation today, I guess the question really is for all
of you. These space-set shows and these ship-set shows, as
Joe said, have been around for a while. So, what do you
think has sort of evolved over the last 15 – 20 years if
you’re thinking even back to “Stargate” that the stories are
telling now that they weren’t then, how it’s kind of the
outside world influence the story should tell based on a
ship set in the future?
Joseph Mallozzi: You know, I said at a conversation earlier
this morning when we talked about sort of the type of – you
know, how contemporary issues influence storytelling. And
they do, I think, to a subconscious degree. You know, I
always prefer to deal with sort of larger themes like, you
know, the world we are set in, for instance, is a world of –
multi-planetary. It’s essentially multi-corporate – you
know, corporations have gone out and colonized – you know,
colonized planets and, you know, existing planetary
resources and, you know, that’s a reflection of sort of, I
guess, you know, our contemporary world. Thematically, we
deal with this idea of redemption. Are you born bad? Are you
– are you the product of your environment? Can you – can
people change?
And I think that’s – you know, that’s something worth
pursuing. When you start – I find when you start kind of
reflecting specific contemporary issues in episodic
television, you tend to date your show. And it’s something I
prefer to avoid. You know, you mentioned sort of how things
have changed in terms of sci-fi television. You know, in
terms of the storytelling, I think we need to tell more
serialized stories, which is basically what we’re going to
do with this to redevelop the characters.
On the other hand, you know, the stuff that worked in the
past is what brought people to “Star Trek” and “Stargate”
and “Firefly” and “Farscape” was this idea that, basically,
these people on the ship are sort of – you know, you’re
family, you’re having fun with them, you know, there is kind
of a humor and there’s a sense of exploration. So, in that
respect, you know, there are aspects of old sci-fi, you
know, that are very present in “Dark Matter.”
Anthony Lemke: I think there is also a response – I mean, in
a more sort of basic – at a structural sense, a lot of what
Joe is talking about could be dealt with in another way
other than a spaceship show. But, there is a reason it’s a
spaceship show now and that “Killjoys” is a spaceship show
now and we’re seeing a bit of a – you know, a bit of a
rebirth of a genre that, you know, wasn’t dead but call it –
call it a bit dormant compared to its heyday.
And, I think, if you just look into the society at large
with SpaceX, with Virgin Galactic, with Barack Obama talking
about a mission to Mars with the reality show that’s going
to Mars, you know, it’s – I think people – and, you know,
guys like Neil deGrasse Tyson who are encouraging an entire
generation of individuals to start looking spaceward and
dreaming about what we used to be able to do, you know, 30,
40, 50 years ago that we cannot stop doing, really, you
know. And I think that’s – people are starting to look
outside into space in a – in a more – I’m not saying in a
more realistic manner, but it’s getting closer and closer to
that notion of – you know, that notion of actually
inhabiting.
It’s a great – I’m reading the biography of Elon Musk right
now. And it’s a fantastic read. But, what’s interesting is
what underlies his entire thing is that when you walk into
his office, there are these massive photos on the wall. One
of them is of Mars as it currently is, completely barren,
and the other is of Mars terraformed and occupied by humans,
which underlies everything that he does – all of his
companies. And, you know, I think that guise is what’s
leading to a bit of renaissance of ship shows.
Heather MacLatchy: Great. Thank you. And, Marc and Melissa,
did you have anything to add to that?
Marc Bendavid: I’m probably the least equipped to answer the
question. So, as far as facing it in a TV context, I really
don’t know. I do know that being in that world and, you
know, being on those planets and, I mean, that spaceship as
an audience member watching the pilot or watching at an AVR,
we need to let go. There is something about the distance of
it and, at the same time, the recognizability and the
proximity of the characters lets you go for the ride. And
you know when you suddenly have an android. We have a kid
who somehow knows how to operate (inaudible) (if you let
go). You want – you want to go for it and you’re not caught
up thinking, “Does this work? How can this work?”
Heather MacLatchy: OK. And the second part of my question
was does it help you, as far as engaging fans and things
like that, that Canada and the U.S. are rolling out on the
same night at the same time so you don’t have to sort of
stagger how you relate to everybody? Is it helpful that
everybody is going to get to see this at once?
Male: Absolutely.
Melissa O'Neil: Absolutely.
Male: Yes. Without a doubt. I mean, it’s about having the
largest conversation you can have with the largest number of
people and really getting momentum behind the show. And it’s
not – I mean, it’s even – it’s even in the – whatever – 86,
90 odd countries and, you know, at Syfy Universal is – has
got it in and that, you know, it’s rolling out within a –
within a couple of days literally in almost every single
country. So, it really is almost a – almost a global
conversation that’s happening within a couple of days for
this show or – you know, we’re super thankful to the
network, you know, Syfy and Syfy International, for giving
us that privilege because it’s not – it’s not the case for
every show.
Heather MacLatchy: No. And have you all figured out how
you’re going to kind of handle that as far as engaging on
with fans? Will you sort of swap out in terms of who engages
with which country when it’s on and things like that as far
as doing live tweeting and that sort of engagement?
Male: Well – yes. We have talked about live tweeting via the
premiere. You know, East and West Coast – you know, various
cast members will be in, depending on their availability,
maybe some on East Coast and some of the West Coast for –
you know – or both. So, yes, definitely, we will be live
tweeting. And, like I said, I mean, you know – you know, I
maintain a daily blog and I will be continuing throughout
production to upload behind-the-scene tidbits, pictures,
videos, stories, including some behind-the-scenes stuff from
episode one or two of the guys showing off their beautiful
singing voices.
Heather MacLatchy: I have one of those videos, too.
Male: No. Thank god I’m already married. You can’t embarrass
me with this at my wedding.
Heather MacLatchy: Great. Thank you, guys, so much. I’m
really looking forward to seeing fans’ reaction, and I
really enjoyed the pilot.
Male: Thank you.
Male: Thank you so much.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Jamie
Ruby from SciFiVision.com.
Your line is open.
Jamie Ruby: Hi again. So, I was wondering, for the actors,
did you like get inspiration for your characters from any
other actors or characters? Or did you kind of take it all
directly from the script?
Male: I can jump in if everyone – I’ll just jump in. OK. So,
the answer to that, I mean, obviously, is yes. I mean, I
think, as actors, one of the things that we do – I mean, I
do definitely – is you are always aware of what some of the
actors that you respect are doing. And, again, it’s that –
like I was saying about preparation. I don’t – I don’t think
– you know, I definitely didn’t walk in to any particular
scene and say, “Geez, you know, what would Harrison Ford
have done to ‘Star Wars’?” That’s not – I don’t think that’s
it.
But, I think you are aware of – you are aware of what has
come before you and how – and how that has affected the
audience’s perception of a certain type of character. And it
speaks to a little bit of what Joe is talking about where
everyone knows – a lot of sci-fi fans know what to expect of
androids. And, so, each – part of it is about fulfilling
that expectation and part of it is about taking it in a
different direction. And that’s a – you know, that’s a
collective effort. That’s an effort where, you know, it
starts on the page with Joe and Paul and, then, it continues
on the day with, you know, what you can offer up in
conversation with Joe and Paul who are there every day of
shooting and with the director.
And then it actually continues on into editing where, you
know, you let go of that. And, fundamentally, the what you
are seeing is what the editor takes from what you gave on
the day. And that’s – you know, again, that’s the
conversation between the other folks. So, you know,
absolutely, there are – there are influences. But, I
personally try to make sure that you’re – that you’re as
fresh and present on the day for your own character as you
can be.
Joseph Mallozzi: Yes. And just to add to that, Anthony was
incredibly successful – you know, I mentioned this on the
blog. But, when we auditioned for his character, you know,
we had our first choice, Anthony Lemke. And, then, there was
the pack. So, basically, he so nailed that audition that,
you know, just from the first – from the first round of
audition, I couldn’t imagine anyone in the role – anyone
else in the role. So, I mean, I consider myself very
fortunate that we ended up landing him. But, he just nailed
that audition and, you know, has been nailing it ever since.
Anthony Lemke: Thank you.
Operator: Our last question comes from the line of David
Holquinn from Trek Radio.
Your line is open.
David Holquinn: Hi. Thanks for joining us today. I’ll try to
be brief. Obviously, I think this would be the first
question for Joe. Obviously, in any production, story and
great acting is at the top of the list. But, the call thing
about genre, media and, specifically, sci-fi is the
aesthetic, the look, the art design. And there is an
increasing number of fans, you know, obviously interested in
costuming and makeup, especially a lot of fans of Syfy’s
“Face Off.” Are we going to see a lot of creature makeup
effects and – you know, either as a recurring character or
as a signature alien race that, you know, you’re going to
encounter as you’re going to the different planets and star
bases? Will there be a lot of that type of special effects?
Joseph Mallozzi: In the first season, we are really more
focused on this crew and their back stories, which is a
little more grounded. As sort of – sort of the series
progresses, we do make, you know, a little more use of that
type of thing. And we do – spoiler alert for the cast – have
kind of laid the groundwork for that kind of reveal in
season two. So, essentially, you know, we are not, let’s
say, you know, a “Farscape” that makes use of a lot of alien
races, you know. It’s – from the beginning, it’s going to
be, you know, fairly grounded. But, that’s not to say that’s
a region we will not be exploring fairly soon.
David Holquinn: OK. And in that regard, whether it’s in a
season – in an upcoming season, will there be emphasis
either on practical effects versus CGI effects or is there
going to be a balance or just wherever it’s appropriate?
Joseph Mallozzi: (We use them) whenever it’s appropriate. I
mean, we have such a fantastic visual effects (and I hold
them up that), you know, they – you know, the visual effects
for the show are amazing. But, I mean, obviously, you want
to use (magical) effects as well. You know, the limited
stuff we have done through hair and makeup in terms of, for
instance, injuries and changing looks and such have been
fantastic so far this season. But, I mean, like you said,
it’s really – we need to just be smart about picking up
spots.
David Holquinn: OK. Very cool. Just another question for
Melissa. It was brought up just a minute ago about singing.
And as the first female winner of Canadian Idol and the
music you’ve released in the past, are we going to see any
singing or music from you in the series or – and/or are you
going to release any more release in the future?
Male: We want a musical episode, Joe. Seriously, season
three, a musical episode.
Melissa O'Neil: That’s not even funny. I obviously do not
sing on the show. And I hope that Two never sings because, I
think, as far as Two is concerned, she doesn’t sing.
But, yes – no. I’m always working as far as preparing that
content. I’m not sure if it’s coming out anytime soon. I’m
doing a tribute concert for Simon and Garfunkel in
September. We can’t stage in Toronto. But, other than that,
I don’t have too many gigs coming up where I’m doing some
signing. But, I’m sure – I’m sure there will be at some
point. I love it very much. It’s very much a part of me.
David Holquinn: OK. Cool. And this last question could be
for everyone individually. Has there been a signature moment
either for your character or just a moment in the – in the
course of the series that is a standout moment like your –
one of your favorite moments or something that pops out
memorable or impactful for this – for this series in the
first season?
Male: Yes.
Male: Without too many spoilers. But ...
Male: Yes.
Male: I’ll throw – I’ll throw one out first. And although I
love a lot of what I had to do and there’s some fantastic
relationships that my character was able to enter into, for
me, one of the highlights was the relationship between Five
and Six. And in specific, there is an episode where Six has
to entire into a type of realm that I won’t go into because
it’s a spoiler to save Five and there’s a moment – and Five
is (a little hesitant) to be – to be saved.
In that scene there – I remember because we were shooting
right next to each other. And I would run in between my
takes to go watch the monitor from that scene between Five
and Six. I mean, I love their relationship that they – that
they develop throughout the show and I think the audience,
specifically those who have got – who have got kids. But, I
think everyone can relate to that kind of relationship. It’s
just such a beautiful, beautiful relationship. And that
particular scene – you know, I’m not sure whether I’m
allowed to say it. Joe, you’re on the line. Maybe – if I am
– you can talk about that scene.
Joseph Mallozzi: Yes. No. It’s all fine.
Anthony Lemke: But, it’s a – yes. It’s just a – it’s just a
beautiful touching poignant scene where Six has to convince
Five that any version of reality, no matter how grim it may
seem is, on the whole, better than a fantasy because, you
know, reality can be changed and your fantasy can’t. And
it’s just such a beautiful and simple moment so well played
between those two actors that, honestly, they have to tear
me away from the screen. I’d wave until literally they are
like, “All right. We are rolling on the other set.” And I’d
run back to the other set and I’d do my scene and I’d come
back as soon as I could. It’s beautiful. I think the
audience is going to love that relationship.
Marc Bendavid: This is – this is Marc Bendavid talking now.
For me – it’s a hard question to ask because there were so
many moments, so many, you know, gasp moments throughout the
season when we were reading the scripts. It’s hard to pick.
You know, every week and a half, we would have a cast
reading and sit there on the table and there, you know,
inevitably, would be yelping and screaming, laughing and
gasping because, you know, there’s so many turns and
surprises in the story that we really don’t see coming even
after having shot half the season.
But, for me, probably what is most exciting – the exciting
moment is the very last scene of the last episode because
everyone, having had the time to work through – having
constantly worked through – have a feel about the situation,
who they trust, who they don’t. Everyone very suddenly has
to put all their cards on the table and nobody can lie. And,
so, we’re – I found it such a fulfilling thing to shoot and
also so interesting to read. You know, suddenly, everyone is
standing there and, you know, there is a 30-second deadline
to make the right choice and make the right decision, you
know, and it’s so beautifully captured – all the struggles
that have come before it that, you know, it’s really
nail-biting and – you know, as a performer and, I hope, as
an audience member.
Melissa O'Neil: I have been listening to these stories and
I’ve been trying to be present. And in doing so, I am – I
was just – I haven’t found a moment.
Male: OK. I’ll tell – I’ll you mine. Mine is – mine is
actually – comes near the end of episode one where, you
know, the crew convenes to discuss exactly what they’re
going to do and, you know, decide on a course of action. And
the cast did such a brilliant of conveying – just
encapsulating who these characters are in that brief
exchange.
You know, Marc, as Anthony said, sometimes doing the right
thing is not the right thing to do. Anthony as Three
basically adopting the more selfish route. The character of
Six played by Roger becomes that warm benevolent that
basically runs throughout the show. The character of Five
played by Jodelle, you see that relationship with Six right
of the top, you know, her desire to help the character of
Four, who is kind of the more solemn character by words. You
know, we have a lead. And then, you know, Melissa’s
character of Two basically having to sort of juggle all
these balls and ultimately come down with the decision. Just
that one scene did such a great job of encapsulating, not
just the characters but, I guess, thematically, the show as
a whole that it just stood out very early on for me.
And I’ve given Melissa plenty of time now.
Male: Stop listening. Start thinking, too.
Melissa O'Neil: My favorite – honestly, everything that we –
damn it. Damn it.
Male: This is my favorite moment because I have never seen
Two like this ever.
Male: You are out of control, Melissa.
Melissa O'Neil: The stuff I had the most fun shooting on set
were always the two hander scenes.
Male: Yes. For sure.
Melissa O'Neil: We’re always these – these one-on-one
conversations I was having with everyone Two oftentimes –
she wasn’t – she was never – she didn’t often share what was
going on in her head so much as she was trying to get into
other people’s heads and hear what they were going through.
And I always found that very interesting, like most of the
time when I was talking to people, Two would be listening
and other people would be going through the thick of it with
something, you know, and she’d be – she’d be trying to get
in there and figure out what was going on in their head and
what they were going to do, why were they going to do it and
what about this as an option, you know.
So, I really – I love those moments. Two learned a lot about
other characters as well as, you know, I did too. And, of
course, in all of my fighting, there is one day in
particular where there was a fight that actually, oddly
enough, I wasn’t fighting in it. It was – it was a shot
where my stunt double is being used. And it was such an
incredible day that the entire set – we just felt like a
family. I remember at the end of their fight the entire crew
just erupted and they started clapping because John had
choreographed this incredible fight. The two stuntwomen just
executed it to perfection. And, yes, it was – I felt so much
pride on that day to be a part of such an incredible team.
Everyone on the set was just crushing it. They were nailing
everything that they were supposed to be doing. And as a
spectator in that moment, I felt so proud to be there. So, I
guess that will be my moment. You can’t see that moment.
Anthony Lemke: No. I’m going to jump in here because I have
a favorite Two moment that I shot with Two. And everything
she says is right, that Two ends up being a leader – and she
is a leader for the reason – you know, on the whole, you
know, alpha males don’t – well, alpha females – alpha
leaders don’t show – don’t show their weakness. They don’t
show their vulnerability. And, you know, throughout the –
throughout the season, there are, you know, a few moments
where Two is a afforded the ability to show vulnerability.
And Three gets one of those. And me as an actor, Anthony,
just watching Melissa in that particular scene, it was – it
was beautiful and heartrending and unfortunately that my
character had to make a choice between sort of (comforting)
in the vulnerability and not – and, sometimes, the actor is
screaming out one way and the character, unfortunately, goes
the other. But, it’s – it was such a beautiful and poignant
and sensitive from an actress who just knocked it out of the
park the entire season doing the leader and then to see her
come in and play this really sensitive vulnerable moment
but, yet, with the poise of the leader, you know. And that
was a really lovely Two moment.
Gary Morgenstein: And I’m – on that, we have to call it – we
have – that’s it. Our time is up.
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