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Interview with Jason Hawes of "Ghost Hunters" on
Syfy 8/28/12
NBC UNIVERSAL
Moderator: Maxine Shen
August 28, 2012
1:00 pm CT
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by.
Welcome to the Syfy, Ghost Hunters conference call. During
the presentation, all participants will be in a listen only
mode. Afterwards, we will conduct a question and answer
session. At that time, if you have a question, press the 1
followed by the 4 on your telephone. If at any time during
the conference you need to reach an operator, please press
star 0.
As a reminder, this conference is being recorded Tuesday,
August 28, 2012. I would now like to turn the conference
over to Ms. Maxine Shen. Please go ahead ma’am.
Maxine Shen: Okay. Hi, everybody and welcome to the Ghost
Hunters conference call with Jason Hawes, Lead Investigator
and founder of TAPS. He’s here today to talk about the
mid-season return of Ghost Hunters, which continues its
eight season on Wednesday, September 5. But, before he
starts taking your questions, Jason has some news to share
with you. Over to you Jason.
Jason Hawes: Hey, how is everybody. I’m happy you all joined
us. Yes, this - well the new season’s really going to be
kicking off with a lot of great things. You know, I think
you’re all going to realize we ended up brining in a new
investigator, her name’s (Ashley). I think you guys will
really enjoy seeing how she grows on the show and her
interaction with the rest of the team and she - I think
she’ll be appearing starting September 26.
But, some of the best cases I think that we’ve had to date
and some of the best evidence that we’ve caught recently. I
cant - of course, I can’t get into too much but, it’s just
going to be - I honestly believe it’s probably going to be
one of the best seasons ever.
Maxine Shen: Okay. Great, thank you Jason. (Marcel), we are
ready for your questions...
Operator: Fantastic...
Maxine Shen: ...for asking.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, once again if
you’d like to register for a question, please press the 1
followed by the 4 on your telephone. You will hear a three
tone prompt to acknowledge your request. If your question
has been answered and you would like to withdraw your
registration, please press the 1 followed by the 3. If you
are using a speakerphone, please lift your headset before
entering your request. And our first question comes from the
line of Reg Seeton from TheDeadbolt.com. Please go ahead.
Reg Seeton: Hey, Jason. Thanks for taking the time to do
this.
Jason Hawes: Oh, thanks for coming on.
Reg Seeton: Cool. Well, heading into the season, how tough
was it to adapt to the investigations without Grant. Can you
touch on that just a little bit?
Jason Hawes: Honestly, it wasn’t that tough at all because I
still deal with Grant daily on other things and he’s still
there. He had to take a leave of absence from the show but,
you know, we’re - our families are extremely tight and we’re
like brothers.
And, for many years I investigated without Grant being
there, you know, for many years of our friendship - Grant
and while TAPS was still going, of course - still is - Grant
left to go to Utah. He was gone for a couple years on that.
So it’s - of course it’s a little odd not having a guy I
refer to as my brother standing beside me all the time. But,
you know, I think it wasn’t an issue for me at all. And to
be honest with you, the team, there’s just a new energy with
the entire team. Everybody’s just so alive lately and yes,
it’s been interesting.
Operator: Thank you Jason. Our next question comes from the
line of John Soltes from Hollywood Soapbox. Your line is
open. Please go ahead.
John Soltes: All right, thanks for the time today Jason. I’m
curious, you know, it seems like the upcoming season you’re
going to be focusing in on some ghost stories down in the
South. You know, why take this focus for the new season down
there and can you kind of give a preview of some of the good
things you guys find some of the bad things.
Jason Hawes: Some of the good or the bad things? Well, we’ve
had some wild investigations. We were actually able to
investigate a zoo, which has been -you know, that’s tough
enough if you think about it. You know, we were called in by
an actual town that had called us in n the past to
investigate some locations.
You know, and yes, we spent some time down in Charleston,
South Carolina because they’re such old areas and a lot of
the areas we headed off to, they have such a history, some
of these - in some of the - some insane history. One of the
locations we had to do had the first so called female serial
killer. But just to be able to get out there, hear these
stories and to be able to investigate some of these
locations, it’s just - it’s incredible.
Yes, it’s - you know, that one actually - the one is was
just talking about the first serial killer, some people who
actually are on production ended up having a situation. I
can’t get in too many details but it led to a really
interesting investigation.
Operator: Thank you and once again ladies and gentlemen, to
queue up and/or to re-queue up for a question, please press
the 1 followed by the 4 on your telephone.
Our next question comes from the line of Christiane Elin
from Sci-Fi Vision. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Christiane Elin: Hi Jason, thanks for talking to me this
morning.
Jason Hawes: Oh, thank you.
Christiane Elin: Well, my question for you is it - I’m sure,
like, amazing Season 8 or an 8.5 now. And what do you think
about the evolution of Ghost Hunters throughout the years?
Jason Hawes: Oh my gosh, I didn’t think we were going to
make it out of first season, so the fact that we’re at 8.5
is incredible. To see that this field has come so far that -
a field that used to be laughed about and people felt that
they had to whisper experiences that they were having, now
they feel that they can openly discuss it, that’s just
incredible.
It’s such a great feeling to know that we were a part of
that movement to try to really get this field ahead. And
also the amount of new people - new investigators - who have
been stepping into the field just really shows that it’s
advancing, and it’s becoming a respected area. So that does
mean everything to us.
Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the
line of Kat Hobza from Sheknows.com. Your line is open.
Please go ahead.
Kat Hobza: Hey Jason, pleasure to visit with you today.
Jason Hawes: Thank you.
Kat Hobza: So, when you needed a new investigator, what
criteria did you use? What are you looking for in a new team
member?
Jason Hawes: Well, of course, when we’re looking for
somebody new we want somebody who is not going to
automatically believe that everything is a ghost or
paranormal. We want somebody who’s willing to try to go that
extra mile to figure out what might be truly creating the
activity, whether it’s electrical issues, plumbing,
anything, over medicated, under medicated individuals.
But also beyond that, I need somebody who can mesh with the
rest of the TAPS team because the main thing is we’re a big
family. Steve’s been with me for 20 plus years. Dave’s been
with us for years. Amy has been a friend for, you know,
almost 10 years now, same with Britt. So - and K. J. was my
nextdoor neighbor as a kid growing up.
So, we all get together. We all spend so much time, you
know, doing this show but also hanging out outside the show
that I just needed somebody who was going to fit in and be
able to work well with the group. And that the group was
going to be able to accept as a whole because bottom line,
they’re the ones who make the decision if somebody stays or
if somebody goes.
Kat Hobza: Sure. And so, just real quick, I need your
expertise. I’m getting ready to buy a house, so how can I
tell if it’s haunted without actually spending the night
there?
Jason Hawes: Well, thing is, you could buy a house and not
know that there’s something going on there for years. So
there’s really no way to know. Over 80% of all claims can be
disproved, so chances are you’re buying a house that doesn’t
have anything going on.
Operator: Thank you. And once again, ladies and gentlemen as
a reminder, to register for a question, please press the 1
followed by the 4.
Our next question comes from the line of Chris Boyd from
Hollywood Junket. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Chris Boyd: Hello Jason, thanks for taking some time to talk
to us. I noticed that in this season you guys are looking
into some different types of hauntings, for example, in the
“Cape Fear” episode. Is there any difference between looking
for more like the typical ghost (unintelligible) looking for
something like an elemental spirit?
Jason Hawes: Absolutely (unintelligible). When you’re
looking for a typical ghost you’re able to a lot of times,
if there is something actually there, and intelligent type
haunt you’re able to make contact with it, you’re able to
get these things to communicate back and for with you. When
you’re dealing with what some believe to be an elemental
type of activity you’re dealing with something that is
purposely trying to avoid you but create fear in order to
make you leave an area, to sort of push you out of these
highly wooded areas that we’ve now encroached into.
So, yes, now you’re trying to actually document something
that you’re spending all this time trying to hide out in.
Yes, it’s a total different style of investigation. Also
being outside and investigating cabins and stuff into all
these areas, you’re dealing with animals, you’re dealing
with insects and a lot of other contamination issues that
come into play.
Operator: Thank you Jason. Our next question comes for the
line of Erin Wolf from Paranormal Pop Culture. Your line is
open. Please go ahead.
Erin Wolf: Hi, Jason. How are you?
Jason Hawes: Hey, good. How are you?
Erin Wolf: Good. Good. So, now that Grant has left, do you
see an end in sight for your involvement with the show and
when do you think that would be? And do you think Ghost
Hunters could continue without you?
Jason Hawes: You know, I don’t - I’m never looking that far
ahead to wonder when I’m leaving or if I’m leaving or
anything of that nature. To be honest with you, every time I
go to do a season, every time I’m requested to do another
season, I sit down with my wife and children and it’s a
choice that we make as a family and I spend a lot of time at
home. Even though it looks like I’m always on the road, I’m
not. But, if my children come and say, you know what, dad we
prefer you not to, well then I would walk away knowing that
I’d been able to bring it this far. But as of right now, my
children love the fact that I’ve been doing this since even
before they were born and, you know, to see how this has
advanced.
I remember my oldest who’s 21, she used to come downstairs
as a little kid and see Steve and me and Grant and everybody
sitting around trying to figure out cases, so she sees how
this whole thing has grown and how it’s become this
international thing now. So, yes, I will stay as long as my
family wants me to stay. And if the show can survive without
me, I think it could. I don’t know, I guess that would have
to be from the viewer’s standpoint.
You know, I know that if I was to step back Steve, who is
100% adequate and able to could easily run what is going on.
I don’t know how we would feel about doing that on his own
though. So, I don’t know, time will tell. I guess you’ll
have to tune into the show and find out.
Operator: Thank you. Once again, ladies and gentlemen, it is
the 1 followed by the 4 on your telephone to register for a
question. Our next question comes from the line of Karen
Lambert from Ghost TV Blogs. Your line is open. Please go
ahead.
Karen Lambert: Hi Jason, welcome back. I have two questions.
Will there be a Halloween special and will we be seeing
Maddie again this season?
Jason Hawes: Okay, to start off with the Hallow special, I
am not going to do a Halloween live show this year. It’s
just - my twin sons are eight now, I spent a lot of these
Halloweens away from them and I just - I want to spend time
with the family on that day. We’ve always loved that holiday
and I just - one thing I can’t stand is getting picture
texts to feel like I’m there, so I’m staying home with them
this year. I’m going to celebrate it with them and go from
there.
As for Maddie, yes, I actually just had Maddie on some cases
we just did. I try to keep her somewhat to more local type
cases just because the amount of travel. I don’t want her
sitting in the back seat of a car for two - three days while
we’re driving out to these locations; it just takes a toll
on her. So, but you will definitely see her on these cases.
Operator: Once again, thank you. Our next question comes
from the line of Marc Eastman from areyouscreaming.com. Your
line is open. Please go ahead.
Marc Eastman: Hi Jason, it’s good to talk to you.
Jason Hawes: Hey, thank you very much.
Marc Eastman: I’m actually supposed to tell you that my wife
is your biggest fan. So, I have to get that out.
Jason Hawes: Oh, well, I think she’d have a - she’d have to
go up against my 12-year-old daughter on that one then.
Marc Eastman: I wouldn’t be surprised. The question I had
actually is after so many doing the show and doing all these
investigations and obviously having, I’m sure, way too many
options to pick from, how do places make the cut? What does
it take for some - for a place that’s trying to get you, you
know, what tips it over the edge that you’d go to one place
over another?
Jason Hawes: Okay. Well, the TAPS website last year alone
received 96 million hits. We receive about a thousand to
1,500 emails a day with possible case requests. Honestly,
out of those it’s going to fall under are the people
terrified. If they are, what type of activity’s going on?
Are there children involved because if there’s a child
involved that jumps to the front of the list because that’s
- I’m a father and the least thing I would want is for my
children to be fearful, in their own home to feel
threatened.
So, you know, of course, these things all - those are the
main factors that will bring us to an area. It’s going to
jump right to the front. But, also with residential cases, a
lot of those cases either we do not - with absolutely no
cameras there because the people don’t want to be on camera
or we just - we need to be cautious with a lot of those
because sometimes those don’t air. There’s a lot of cases we
do that never make air. So - but yes, anytime there’s a
family and children and activity that is active at that
point, we - we’ll get there ASAP.
Operator: Thank you. And we have a follow up question from
the line of John Soltes from Hollywood Soapbox. Your line is
open. Please go ahead.
John Soltes: Ah, yes, thanks again. I’m curious, you know,
looking back now at the TV series and, you know, it’s been
out for so many years, I mean, how has it changed your life?
I mean, is it kind of night and day looking back seven years
ago of, you know, are you - for example, are you still doing
the daily plumbing and stuff, I mean, or do you get spotted
a lot in public?
Jason Hawes: I definitely get spotted a lot in public. It’s,
you know, the baldhead and goatee thing definitely puts -
people are easy to recognize me. As for plumbing, yes - when
I’m not full swing production, I go back to the norm. You
know, I’ll go and I’ll price out jobs for Roto, still
employed by them. They’ve been a great company but also the
understand that they’re getting advertising while I’m on the
road, so, you know, we scratch each other’s backs on that
end. They’ve always been a great company. I for them years
before the show, so - and yes, to see - to honestly see how
just incredible or how large this whole thing has become is
just - it’s wild. We’ve just been having a great time. It’s
definitely - it’s changed a lot.
You know, it’s - but the nice thing is we’re going in with a
camera crew, I’m going in with - when I go into a location,
where a lot of other shows they’re going in with a producer,
a cameraman, a sound man, all these things, I don’t.
I go in with just one cameraman and whoever I’m
investigating with at the time and that cameraman’s usually
(Kendal), who is my main guy who’s been with me for years on
the show so he knows to stay out of my way. But also, I’m
able to take his tape, I’m able to take his audio and
analyze that as well, so it also comes in handy that way
having that crew there because I have more possible evidence
that can be documented by a different camera and other
audio.
Operator: Thank you. And once again, ladies and gentlemen,
it is the 1 followed by the 4 to register for a question.
The next question, once again, is a follow up question from
the line of Kat Hobza from sheknows.com. The line is open.
Please go ahead.
Kat Hobza: Hey, Jason. I’m curious, is there a particular
haunting our episode that sticks with you? And then also,
how do you clear your head from this line of work and relax?
Jason Hawes: Yes, I think every case sticks with me because
I look at it - cases I’m able to figure out are just as
exciting as cases that actually have paranormal activity.
So, of course, Waverly Hills, 63,000 people passed away
there. Just walking through that building, you know, you
feel - you could feel that. A lot of (unintelligible).
Stanley Hotel, you know, but also personal cases. We’ve got
two personal cases that’ll be coming up rather early in this
season that are real - they hit close to home and so, of
course, that stuff sticks with me.
As for clearing my head, I don’t know, it’s just I’ve been
doing this so long I’m - it’s second nature. It’s always
there, even when I go home though it’s always there. It’s -
I’ll pull into my house sometimes after getting off a plane
or driving back into town and all the lights are off in my
house and all I see is flashlights. I walk in to find my two
8-year-old twin sons walking around with their 12-year-old
sister investigating the house.
So it’s such an imbedded part of my life and my family’s
house that it’s not like I ever have to clear my head
because there’s always somebody involved in it. We also have
my 17-year-old daughter Haily who’s on the show and also
investigating off of the show with me as well. So, yes,
everybody in my family seems to be involved with it.
Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the
line of Steve Eramo from Sci-Fi and TV Talk. Your line is
open. Please go ahead.
Steve Eramo: Hi Jason, a pleasure to speak with you today.
Jason Hawes: Hey, thank you, same.
Steve Eramo: Wanted to find out if maybe if could tell us,
what continues to fuel your passion for this type of
investigative work after all these years?
Jason Hawes: First off, it’s still such an unknown field.
You know, of course, I’m looking for answers in it and also
trying to help out as many people as I can along the way.
You know, and I don’t know - and I sat there and I thought
about this, surely, because I don’t know if I’ll ever figure
out these answers that I’m looking for that people are
hoping I’m able to find for them. But if 100, 200, you know,
300 years from now somebody does and we even played the
smallest little role in the foundation that led them to
that, then that’s all that matters to me.
It’s just trying to figure this out and trying to be a part
of that - of possibly what it is, and I think that’s really
what fuels me and just trying to understand how these things
are possibly because there’s so many - there appears to be
so many different types of haunts. We’ve - over the years
we’ve found that, you know, you can have intelligent type
haunts, you could have residually, you could poltergeist
type haunts. But also, you can have intelligent type haunts
that aren’t like everything that we’ve ever thought about
these ghosts communicating back and forth. Now, for whatever
reason, some of these intelligent type haunts are spirits
that are still stuck in their time, they’re still living a
normal day in their life.
Well, how is that possible? How is it possible to have time
that seems to be folding on itself and if so does that now
lead into maybe that’s what a psychic or sensitive is?
Somebody who’s still in their time but they are able to hear
voices as these things are able to hear us. So, it’s just -
it’s so interesting and there’s so many different layers
that that’s just what keeps us going.
Operator: Thank you. And our next question, once again, is a
follow up question from the line of Erin Wolf from
Paranormal Pop Culture. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Erin Wolf: Okay. Jason, you’ve researched a lot of great
people, you always recommend reading up on the paranormal
before investigating. Is there a new technique or a latest
study or an author that you have explored or employed in
this new season coming up?
Jason Hawes: You know, no. Honestly, there isn’t. I’ve
always tried to stray away from reading books from other
paranormal investigators. And the main reason behind that is
because I never wanted to follow in someone else’s
footsteps, I sort of wanted to blaze my own trail, look at
it my own way, be my own person.
And it’s - initially when TAPS - when we came out with TAPS
we - so many people used to attack us because we used to
shoot down these orbs that everybody thought were spirit
activity and everything else. And we were able to recreate
all these things just by slapping pillows or, you know,
taking pictures outside when it was high moisture times and
things of that nature. So, it was just we always wanted to
look at it our own way.
I know Steve was big on reading books by (Hahn Hosier), you
know, other investigators like to read from other people. I
just try to always stay away from that stuff.
Operator: Thank you. And as a final reminder, ladies and
gentlemen it is, once again, a 1 followed by the 4 to
register for a question.
And our next question is a follow up question from the line
of Christiane Elin from SciFi Vision. Your line is open.
Please go ahead.
Christiane Eline: Hello again Jason. I had a question about
technology. I know there different paranormal shows out
there, do you have a limitations on what, like, the TAPS
recognizes the technology they use or do you try new things?
Will there be technology this season?
Jason Hawes: There will and actually I’m working with a
company right now on an app that will be able to take any
Android and iPhones and iPads and all that stuff and be able
to work off of meters that are built into them. And can’t
get into too much detail on it but, I’m - I was actually
just using a prototype of it the other day.
But there’s also a lot of equipment out there that becomes
rather laughable that I’ve seen that I guess other people
have brought into this field where, you know, these boxes
that are generating voices, well the voices are words that
are actually put in or programmed into these devices. So,
you know, there’s a lot of things out there that I think are
holding the field back and there’s a lot of technology out
there dealing with infrasound and stuff like that that we’re
really trying to bring to the forefront. So I think you’ll
be able to see a lot of newer stuff coming out from us and
to other areas.
Operator: Thank you Jason. And our final question, once
again, is a follow up question from the line of John Soltes
from The Hollywood Soapbox. Your line is open. Please go
ahead.
John Soltes: Thank again. I’m just curious, you know, you
had talked a little bit about, you know, people, I guess,
who believe and you kind of dispelled some of the evidence
that they presented to you. I was looking - you know, what
about the flipside of that equation, you know, people - do
you ever have sort of naysayers, just people who don’t
believe in ghosts and they kind of, you know, I don’t know,
they give you a hard time or they’re critics? I mean, do you
- what do you sort of say - who - people just who don’t
believe in anything that appears on Ghost Hunters as far as,
you know, the paranormal goes?
Jason Hawes: Honestly, I have dealt with people like that
and it’s pretty - because I don’t get into an argument with
them about this. Bottom line is, I’m not here to push my
beliefs on them, I would appreciate the same. I think that,
first off, every religion, every nationality, everybody out
there has talked about something to deal with the spirit
realm since the human race came around. So I think it would
be naïve to say that it didn’t exist, let alone, we
manipulate energy every time we turn on a hair dryer or a
vacuum cleaner. To say the world hasn’t been manipulating it
since the start of time is just silly.
But like I said, I’m not here to try to force this as
paranormal and I know it because of this reason down anybody
throat. I just think that it would be best if those people
stop being so close minded and instead of becoming full
believer, hey that’s fine, meet us in the middle. Let’s try
to work this out together. Let’s try to figure out - if you
don’t believe it to be paranormal fine, let’s try to figure
out what it is instead of casting stones at each other.
John Soltes: Okay.
Operator: Thank you. As a correction, now our final question
comes from the line of Kat Hobza from sheknows.com. Your
line is open. Please go ahead ma’am.
Kat Hobza: Hey Jason, I was just curious, what do you love
about your job, what do you not love about your job?
Jason Hawes: I love about my job is definitely problem
solving, figuring out what’s truly going on, the people that
I’m able to meet and interact with. And sometimes that can
be the stuff that you really don’t love about your job
because you never know whose house you’re walking to.
Just like, I’m a plumber for Roto Rooter and I’ve walked
through people’s homes where you just know you have to get
out, that they’re not all there. It happens in this field as
well where, you know, we had a case not too - a couple years
back where we walked into a house and come to find out, this
person had loaded weapons all through their house. It
becomes a safety issues, you need to get out, you need to
get away.
So, I think meeting new people, interacting, trying to
figure out what their problems are, being a problem solver
is one of the most interesting things. But also not knowing
who you’re about to walk - whose home you’re about to walk
into and who you’re about to deal with can be a pretty scary
part as well.
Operator: And thank you Jason. It appears we have no further
questions at this time. Ms. Shen, I’ll turn the call back
over to you.
Maxine Shen: Okay. Well, thank you very much everyone who
called in and Jason, thank you for chatting with us today.
And just a reminder, Ghost Hunters returns of September 5
with the episode titled, “Serial Killer’s Revenge”. It’s the
first of 14 new episodes, which takes us through to
December. Great. Well, thank you again for calling and have
a nice day everyone.
Jason Hawes: Thank you everybody, I appreciate you taking
the time out. It means a lot to me.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude the
conference call for today. We thank you for your
participation and ask that you please disconnect your lines.
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