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Episode #12055 ~ Nick takes matters into his hands. Amanda has a chilly meeting with Naya. Abby is faced with a tough decision.
Provided By SuzannePhyllis: So I guess that's our last sleepover at your place for a while.
Nick: You gonna miss me?
Phyllis: No, because you're gonna be over here. Do you want breakfast?
Nick: I appreciate it, but I should go pick up faith.
Phyllis: Oh, that's right.
Nick: The sooner I do that, the sooner sharon can start to repair things up with rey.
Phyllis: You know what? Why don't you bring faith here for a spa day?
Nick: That's a really good idea.
Nick: She could use some pampering. She's had to deal with more than her share with the bullying and then sharon getting caught up in adam's web again. Now, I know you think sharon's an adult and should take responsibility for her actions.
Phyllis: Mnh-mnh. I don't think this is sharon's fault.
Nick: Say that again. Are you taking sharon's side?
Phyllis: This is all adam. You know that and I know that. I mean, sharon's tried to move on. She picked rey. But adam can't stand that. He wants to ruin her marriage and sabotage her marriage, and for faith's sake, I hope he doesn't succeed.
Sharon: Hey. Morning, sunshine.
Sharon: How about some breakfast? I can make waffles, pancakes, omelets.
Faith: I'll just grab a bowl of cereal.
Sharon: You sure? It's really no trouble.
Faith: Yeah. I'm not that hungry. I guess rey already left for the station. Sorry I missed him.
Sharon: Let me know if you need anything.
Abby: I never thought that devon would...
Nina: Volunteer to be your baby's biodad?
Abby: And he doesn't make decisions lightly. The idea of having a donor that chance and I already know, who's already a part of our lives --
Nina: Well, you won't have to worry about whether the information on an anonymous donor's profile is accurate.
Abby: Let's face it -- chance and I are two white people from very sheltered, privileged backgrounds. What do we know about raising a biracial child? And, yes, it's nice to think that the world is color-blind, but that's insulting and a lie. And one day, down the road, I mean, someone might say something ugly to them, something hurtful and thoughtless, and our baby would realize that there are racist people out there, people who will judge them based only on the color of their skin. And I-I don't know if we're equipped to help a child through that. I mean, are we? I don't know how that would feel, and I would never want our baby to feel different, ever. That would break my heart.
Nina: Oh, I understand. It makes me angry and sad just to think about it. But you and chance, you're intelligent people. You're responsible. You'd find a way to help your child.
Abby: I just -- I wish that i could talk to chance about all this.
Nina: Well, why don't you just imagine a conversation with him? What do you think he'd say?
Abby: Well, he would ask me what I think. Actually, he would ask me how i feel. And honestly, part of me is thrilled at the idea of one of my best friends in the whole world being a part of my child. To have devon on this journey with us, knowing him, trusting him, loving him the way that i do. Knowing that he would be there to answer any questions and to care for not only chance and me, but also our baby?
Nina: Yeah, this kid's gonna need some role models and some confidants.
Abby: And devon wouldn't hesitate for a second.
Nina: He's made a wonderful offer, but as far as we know, it's just to be a donor. I don't know that he's thought past that.
Abby: I don't know if I could go through with this unless he would be a part of our baby's life. And I know that's a lot to ask, but...
Nina: Well, there's only one way to find out. Dry, distressed skin that struggles?
Naya: Amanda. You look lovely.
Amanda: Thank you for coming all this way to see me again.
Naya: Oh, I was so glad to hear from you, especially the way things ended last time. I wasn't sure --
Amanda: The way that I cut things short.
Naya: I'm sorry to upset you.
Amanda: The fact that you still want to keep our time together a secret from your family --
Naya: I can understand how that makes you feel.
Amanda: No, I don't think that you do. But I have had some time to think and consider your side of this situation, and I will try not to take it personally.
Naya: [ Sighs ] I didn't mean to offend you. I know I might not be prepared to have certain conversations with my family, but I want to have this one with you.
Amanda: Okay. Shall we take a seat?
Amanda: [ Chuckles ] It's hard to know where to begin.
[ Cellphone chiming ]
Nina: Is that you blowing up my phone?
Abby: Those are just a few links of the articles I've found about raising a child from a different race.
Nina: Ooh. Looks like we've got some reading to do.
Abby: Oh, well, we could read until the end of time and still not fully understand all the issues and complications. There is so much advice.
Nina: Well, you know, you can always go back to using the anonymous donor.
Abby: This baby is going to have half of my dna, and I want the other half to be from someone that I know. But what do you think?
Nina: Devon is obviously a lovely man. And I the connection to katherine, it's kind of cosmic, I think.
Abby: And having a child who is biracial and a donor that we know, I mean, could raise a lot of questions.
Nina: Okay, if you were adopting, would you only consider a white child?
Abby: No, no, not at all.
Nina: Well, so then the questions and the racial issues --
Abby: Would be a part of our lives, one way or another.
Nina: So what do you think?
Abby: I can't carry and chance can't father, and he's not even in town, but yet i still feel very lucky to have friends like mariah and devon who are willing to help us achieve our dreams and to add so much to our lives. And I do think that katherine would give us her blessing.
[ Sighs ]
Nina: So, are you ready to call devon?
Abby: I am.
Nick: Faith ready to roll?
Sharon: Yeah, she's just packing her bag.
Nick: How was the morning?
Sharon: A little sad. Subdued.
Nick: We talking about her or you?
Sharon: Both of us, maybe.
Nick: It's gonna be pretty quiet around here.
Sharon: Yeah, I'm going to miss her. But you're right. It's for the best.
Nick: It's gonna be a great chance for you and rey to work things out.
Sharon: He would have to actually talk to me for that to happen.
Nick: Where is he?
Sharon: He's at work. He didn't come home last night. He slept at the station. And I didn't mention that to faith, so...
Nick: Yeah, she's not gonna hear about that from me.
Sharon: We were on the right path, until he saw that photo.
Nick: Well, you were kissing adam.
Sharon: He got the wrong idea.
Nick: Sharon, you have to know this is about a hell of a lot more than one reckless kiss. I have been suffering with migraine for years.
Sharon: I don't want to argue with you about adam. We've already discussed the photo. You know that I've been pushing him out of my life since before that photo was taken, and I did it again last night.
Nick: Last night? What the hell?
Sharon: Yeah, he stopped by here after you left. I told him he had to leave.
Nick: Well, hopefully he got the message this time.
Sharon: I don't think he would have stopped by here in the first place if rey hadn't gotten in his face. He gave him a reason to come over here and check on me. The truth is, rey shouldn't be talking adam. He should be talking to me.
Nick: I talked to rey, too.
Sharon: Are you kidding me?
Nick: I ran into him at society. Sharon, I told him that you guys got a great thing here and that he shouldn't walk away from it.
Sharon: Thanks for trying. Too bad it didn't convince him to come home.
Nick: Well, that's gonna be up to you, sharon. You have got to find a way to reach him, and you got to do the same thing with faith, for both of you.
Sharon: I know. You know, I must have done something to mess things up because if she still trusted me the way that she used to, she wouldn't hesitate to tell me who's bullying her at school, and she'd know I'd put a stop to it immediately. And I want to be that role model for her again.
Nick: She's just had her confidence shaken a little bit.
Sharon: Well, I think the stress she's been under is probably what's caused her to start drinking.
Nick: Well, with or without her cooperation, we are going to find out who these troublemakers are and put an end to it.
Sharon: Well, you know I'm worried about them retaliating, and the last thing we want to do is make things worse for faith.
Nick: Well, how can we expect the bullying to end if we don't do something? There's got to be consequences.
Naya: You should have seen my father -- your grandfather -- when I told him I had no intentions of going to his alma mater, columbia university. Ooh! He'd filled me with stories, took me on countless visits. He made plans for me to be the second generation ivy leaguer ever since I could talk. But I wanted to go to wheaton.
Amanda: Were you happy with your choice?
Naya: Yes. Though I was terribly homesick.
Amanda: I can only imagine.
Naya: But the school was wonderful. I mean, I made friends, got good grades, fell in love...
Amanda: Got pregnant.
Naya: Everything happened so fast. I was so young and so unprepared for everything that was happening.
Amanda: Listen, I can understand why you felt like you had something to prove to your family, and I can relate. No, not that I had anyone pressuring me to go to a particular school. In fact, no one expected me to go to college at all. Kids in the foster system usually don'T.
Naya: That's a shame.
Amanda: You know, it takes a lot of money, support, determination --
Naya: Well, I'm sure you've got a surplus of that.
Amanda: Determination, yes.
[ Both chuckle ] I jumped through every hoop there was. I worked two jobs. I applied for every scholarship that I could find, and i begged -- I begged my teachers to write me letters of recommendation, but I got in. You know, and I never let anything knock me off my course. It was just me against the world. But I graduated.
Naya: With honors, I'll bet.
Amanda: Summa cum laude.
Naya: [ Chuckles ]
Amanda: And then i inadvertently followed in my grandfather's ivy league footsteps and I went to yale law school.
Naya: I am more than impressed. And I wish -- I wish things had been different for you.
Amanda: Yeah, so do I.
Naya: I hope this doesn't upset you, and I know I had nothing to do with your success or your achievements and maybe i don't have the right to think this, much less say it to you. Amanda... I don't think I've ever been prouder of anyone in my life.
Amanda: Wow. It's not the wrong thing to say.
Abby: Thank you so much for coming.
Devon: Oh, of course.
Abby: You are so kind and so generous to make that offer.
Devon: But I just want to say that I understand how important of a decision this is, to find a donor, and I will not have any hard feelings or be offended if if you choose to go in another direction.
Abby: No, no, no. It's not that. Please, let's all sit down. Okay, so, devon.
Abby: You and I, we have been friends for a very long time, but we have never talked about race.
Devon: No, we haven'T. No, that's -- I guess that's something you don't really talk about, you know, too much, unless something pops up in the news these days.
Abby: Well, I'm not color-blind. No one is. And I guess I just -- I want to know what your feelings are -- your honest feelings -- about white parents raising a black child?
Devon: Yeah. I mean, to tell you the truth, I really haven't given much thought to that type of situation until now. But when I first considered being a donor to, it did cross my mind. There were some concerns that popped up. But I mean, that's -- that's normal, I think, 'cause there's just a lot to consider.
Abby: But you don't think it would be unfair to the child? Like they would feel like an outsider in their own family?
Devon: I really don't, and I'll tell you, 'cause I think about my sister. I think about lily and her kids. You know, they don't have the same skin color as their father, and they always felt like they belonged in that household. Had nothing to with dna. It was just about the love that they felt. So I think that as long as your child has someone in their life who can relate to them on different things and who looks like them that can help navigate any negativity, you know? 'Cause, unfortunately, there's a lot of ignorant people in the world these days. I think if they have that, they'll be fine.
Abby: We know that this child is gonna need you in his or her life. And we're gonna need you, too. And when they are old enough to understand, I want him or her to know that you were the donor.
Devon: Wow. Okay.
Abby: So I guess what I'm -- I'm trying to say, devon, is are you ready to be a part of this family?
[ Chuckles ]
Devon: Oh, boy. I am more than ready. I'm honored to be. I really am. If you have obstructive sleep apnea and you're often tired during the day, you could be missing out on amazing things.
Nick: You want help with that?
Faith: I got it.
Sharon: Wow. That's a pretty big bag. I thought this was just gonna be for a little while.
Faith: I don't know.
Nick: Hope you're ready to build some skyscrapers. Christian's got big plans for you. Wants to build even bigger ones than you guys did over the christmas break.
Faith: Cool. That'll be fun.
Nick: I'll put your bag in the car.
Sharon: I'll miss you.
Faith: I've been gone before.
Sharon: I know, but this time feels different. But I get it. You want to spend some time with your dad, and that's okay. I like that you feel comfortable advocating for yourself.
Faith: Oh, my god, you are such a therapist.
Sharon: [ Chuckles ] Well, the mom in me agrees with the therapist. You know, it's very mature of you to take some distance when you need it. And you know what? While you're away, I'm going to do everything I can to work things out with rey. Who knows? Hopefully, we can come out of this stronger on the other end.
Faith: Fingers crossed.
[ Door opens ]
Nick: We should get going. Christian really wants to put you to work.
Faith: [ Chuckles ] Okay. Let me just grab my phone. I thought I left it right here.
Nick: You did.
Nick: I need something from you first.
Nick: I want the names of the kids who have been harassing you.
Faith: [ Sighs ]
Naya: General counsel for chancellor communications?
[ Chuckles ] You've accomplished so much, against all odds.
Amanda: I didn't have a choice. You know, I had no relatives, you know, to give me support. I had no safety net. I had to do it on my own.
Naya: I'm sorry that you didn't have people who loved you, believed in you. I assumed that you did. I had no idea what you were going though.
Amanda: You believed the story that you told yourself. You know, that your two girls were happy and healthy and doing just fine without you. You know, maybe it was easier than knowing the truth.
Naya: I can't deny that. But I deeply regret my decision now. I mean, it's possible that i may have gotten a chance to know hilary before she died, and i could have made things easier for you.
Amanda: What are you talking about? Are you talking about money?
Naya: I'm not really sure. I haven't thought it through. I just --
Amanda: If you could go back and do it all over again, do things differently, if you had half the amount of strength and determination that you say i have, would you have gone home with a baby in each arm and loved us and protected us against the world?
Naya: Amanda --
Amanda: Okay, let's just cut to the chase. If you had found me, if you had seen or if you had heard the way that I was living with no family, just painfully, painfully lonely, what would you have done?
Naya: I don't know how to answer that question.
Amanda: [ Exhales sharply ] I think you just did.
Mariah: Where is abby?
Devon: She's grabbing some champagne.
Mariah: Wait. Does this mean what I think it means? Do we have something we should be celebrating?
Devon: I'm gonna let her tell you the news.
Mariah: If you don't tell me right now, I will never forgive you. Why are you smiling like that? What do you know?
Devon: She said yes.
Devon: Accepted my offer.
Mariah: Oh, my gosh, devon! This is fantastic! You're gonna be the best donor ever.
Devon: Ohh. Thank you.
Abby: I assume you heard the fabulous news?
Mariah: This is amazing -- for all of us.
Abby: I think it's time for a toast. To soon-to-be baby chancellor.
[ Champagne pops ]
Abby: [ Screams ]
[ Laughter ]
Nina: Well done!
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Abby: So this is not just a party. I call to order the first executive board meeting of the baby chancellor crew.
Mariah: Oh, goodness.
[ Laughter ] Wow, this baby is going to have the most organized mom in the universe.
Devon: Oh, yeah. Something tells me that the nursery's gonna be wallpapered with checklists.
Abby: Hey. Okay, my focus on logistics has worked well at society, so i will not apologize for using the same approach. But today, I-I want to focus on the legal side of things. We're all gonna need our own contracts, which means we're gonna each need our own lawyer.
Nina: And obviously we are happy to pick up the tab on that, okay?
Devon: I appreciate that. I'm okay, though.
Mariah: I will take you up on that.
Nina: Okay, good. I've already consulted with cricket, and she said the contracts are just so that everybody's on the same page, and everybody's rights are understood and protected.
Abby: But it is very important that we keep the spirit of mutual support through this whole process. Baby chancellor is going to be surrounded by love from the very beginning.
Abby: [ Chuckles ] Cheers!
Abby: [ Sighs ]
Amanda: I know that I'm asking you a lot of difficult questions. I'm sorry, okay? I know that you probably regret coming here now.
Naya: No, no, not at all. I'm learning more about you. And you have every reason in the world to feel the way you do, so you don't have to put on a happy face for me.
[ Cellphone chimes ] Oh. It's imani.
Amanda: Wondering where you are, no doubt.
Naya: I, uh -- I really ought to be heading home.
Amanda: I understand.
Naya: But I would really like to come back, to talk more, to get to know you better, if that's okay with you.
Naya: Good. Then I'll see you again real soon.
Amanda: Okay, okay.
Naya: Until next time.
Amanda: [ Sighs ]
Faith: If I tell you the names of the kids who have been bullying me, then you'll just get them in trouble and they'll make things worse for me.
Sharon: And that's what we're trying to avoid. We want to try to handle this in the right way where you won't get hurt.
Faith: If you really cared about me, you wouldn't have erased jordan from my life. She was my only friend -- the only person who stuck up for me against those jerks.
Nick: That's our job. Let us fight for you.
Faith: I just wish you would stay out of it. And I don't think it's fair for you to hold my phone hostage.
Sharon: Are we supposed to just stand around and let people treat you this way?
Faith: Because it's so much better for me to keep me completely isolated, unable to communicate with anyone, including my sisters, without my phone.
Nick: Nobody is trying to isolate you. I'm gonna get you a new phone with a new number. Now, I can't control social media, but it'll stop you from getting any of those texts for a while.
Sharon: That's a good idea.
Nick: In the meantime, I'm gonna hang on to this one. Since you deleted all the old messages, I'll be able to see any new ones that come in.
Faith: I know there's no point in trying to talk you out of it, so I'll wait in the car.
Sharon: I love you.
Nick: I'll be right there.
[ Door closes ]
Sharon: If there are any more texts, I would like to know about it because one of those jerks might be responsible for posting that photo of me and adam.
Nick: I'll definitely keep you in the loop. Don't worry about faith, alright? I'm going to spend a lot of time with her. Just, you know, use this time to focus on rey. Try and make things right with him.
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Faith: Hi. What are we doing here? I thought I'm supposed to be building a metropolis with christian.
Nick: Phyllis wanted to do something for you.
Phyllis: Yes! I know that life's been a little stressful for you right now, so I arranged for a spa day for you.
Phyllis: Yes! I mean, you said you were interested in it, you know, when I mentioned you and your friends.
Faith: Yeah, definitely.
Phyllis: Good. Sonia's ready for you, and she's gonna tend to your every need. She's getting a room ready for you.
Faith: Okay, cool.
Phyllis: [ Chuckles ]
Nick: Maybe just hang out down there while you wait and get your new phone set up.
Phyllis: New phone?
Nick: And a new number.
Phyllis: You can get a new number without getting a new phone.
Nick: Well, I want to hang on to the old one just in case she gets some texts from those bullies, since she won't tell me who they're coming from.
Phyllis: I hate that she's protecting the bullies.
Nick: Well, I'm determined to find out who it is, and I'm gonna put an end to it and make sure they're punished.
Phyllis: But you know that there may be something going on with them. Need I remind you of the time summer was bullying that boy and making his life miserable?
Nick: Yeah, definitely experienced both sides of the bully-victim dynamic thanks to my daughters.
Phyllis: Right, right. Yeah, I mean, in summer's case, she was just immature and very, very misguided, and maybe that's the case with these bullies, too.
Nick: I'll keep that in mind. As hard as it is to watch faith suffer, I know this goes deeper than just bullying. No, it's thanks to adam. Faith doesn't feel like she can trust that sharon's gonna be on her side, and it doesn't help that that picture keeps popping up everywhere.
Phyllis: I know, but she'll get her act together.
Nick: Almost sound like you believe that.
Phyllis: I mean, sharon and i have our issues, for sure. She's a good mom. She's a very good mom. There is nothing she wouldn't do for her daughter. I believe that.
Sharon: Hey, mariah.
Mariah: What's going on?
Sharon: Judging by the worried tone in your voice, I'm assuming you saw the photo. You probably thought I would go into hiding.
Mariah: You kissed adam. I mean, how did that even happen?
Sharon: He kissed me. You know, I've told him over and over again that he has to stay away from me. That's what we were arguing about the last time you saw him here with me.
Mariah: But you never told me he kissed you.
Sharon: Well, I didn't want to talk about it then and i definitely don't want to talk about it now. Even though I'm sure that's what half the town is doing. But you have to believe me, it just didn't mean anything.
Mariah: How is faith doing?
Sharon: Faith is very upset and confused, and she's living with nick now.
Mariah: Well, I will stop by his place later and check on her.
Sharon: Thank you. I know she would really like that and so would I. Um... gosh, enough about me. Okay. Tell me about you. What's going on? How's your job?
Mariah: Work is great. I love jabot. And I've got some exciting news.
Sharon: Really? Okay, tell me. It'll cheer me up.
Mariah: So abby and chance gave their baby project the green light.
Sharon: Oh, that's wonderful. Even though chance is out of town, they're gonna go ahead. That's great. I can't imagine how hard it must have been for them to choose from all of those donors.
Mariah: Well, actually, abby decided to go in a different direction -- someone she loves and cares about stepped up and wants to volunteer, and you're never gonna guess who it is.
Devon: How'd everything go with naya?
Amanda: Better than the last time, not as good as I had hoped.
Devon: No? How did you guys leave things?
Amanda: Well, she wants to see me again.
Devon: That's great.
Devon: That's really great. Must feel good that things are moving in a positive direction.
Amanda: Yeah, I don't -- i don't really know what to think. You know, the relationship feels really fragile, and i just -- I'm gonna just take it one step at a time.
Devon: I think that's smart.
Amanda: What about you, your meeting with abby? Did she take you up on your offer?
Devon: She -- we are full steam ahead.
[ Chuckles ]
Amanda: I didn't think she would move forward with you.
Amanda: Well, I know you said that she had some reservations. I mean, white parents raising a biracial child as their own -- that situation would be fraught with difficulties.
Devon: Sure, which is why she made assure her that I would stay in the picture as "uncle devon."
Amanda: [ Chuckles ] Tall order.
Devon: Yeah, I'm up for it, though.
Amanda: Okay. How exactly do you see this all working out? A lot of people think dealing with copd is a walk in the park.
Devon: I see this situation working out really well for everyone involved, especially chance and abby's baby.
Amanda: Well, I hope you're right.
Devon: I know what you're thinking -- that I need to find myself a good lawyer.
Amanda: With something this serious, you can't just wing it.
Devon: I know. I'm familiar with the process, because I went through it with hilary, and that's why I wanted to see you.
Devon: Yeah, because abby wants to make sure that all my interests are protected and make sure that everything is written down and everyone knows what to expect, so she's encouraging us all to get our own attorneys.
Amanda: Good. That is great.
Devon: Yeah. I think so, too. So, tell me, what do I have to do to hire the best attorney in town?
Amanda: Well, we can set up a time and we can sit down, discuss your goals and your expectations, how you see yourself participating in this child's life. Now, the father is currently out of the picture.
Devon: He'll be back, though.
Amanda: Well, we don't know that.
Devon: I mean, come on. Yeah, we do. He's -- he's just on an assignment. And chance is the one and only father in this whole scenario. I'm just gonna be the fun uncle, like I am to lily's kids.
Amanda: Did you spend a lot of time with charlie and mattie when they were growing up?
Devon: Yeah, of course I did.
Amanda: So you spent holidays with them, got invited to birthday parties, went on vacations?
Devon: I see where you're going with this. You want to know exactly how much I'd like to be involved in the child's life.
Amanda: These things need to be spelled out.
Devon: I understand. Chance and abby are my great friends. They're great people. They have good hearts and we all want the same thing.
Amanda: You sure about that? Are you all gonna want the same thing when this child is a reality? Or when the child is 2, 4, 15?
Devon: Yes, yes, I'm sure. Abby wouldn't say yes to me being the donor until I agreed to stick around as support for the kid.
Amanda: So you'll be doing some heavy lifting without any rights.
Devon: I don't think I need rights. They're like family to me.
Amanda: [ Sighs ] Devon, things change. People change. What people want changes. Trust me on this. A good contract is the best way to make sure that you guys stay friends.
Sharon: Devon is going to be the donor?
Mariah: That's incredible, right?
Sharon: It's fantastic.
Mariah: Yeah. I mean, the fact that we all know each other and that this baby is gonna know where he or she came from and have this built-in crew of love and support, I mean, it's going to be the luckiest child in the world.
Sharon: What you and devon are doing is so incredibly generous.
Mariah: I get to help my two friends become parents. Change their lives. And who knows? Maybe change the world depending on how spectacular this baby turns out to be. Am I crazy? Because I have -- I've never felt more grounded or excited.
Sharon: It's really easy to get caught up in it all. But I want to make sure that you're being realistic about what being a surrogate involves.
Mariah: Oh, I'm doing my homework. I have my eyes wide open. And I can handle the morning sickness and the heartburn, the lack of sushi and wine.
Sharon: Those are just the physical changes you'll go through. But I'm talking about --
[ Cellphone chimes ] It's rey. He wants to talk.
Mariah: Is he coming home?
Sharon: After work.
Mariah: That's -- that's good. You know what? I'm gonna give you some time to think about what you're gonna say. What are you gonna say?
Sharon: All I can really do is open my heart. Just pray that that's enough.
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Abby: [ Chuckles ]
Sally: Hell yes I want to call these dates, and I hope there'll be more of them. Unless that's not where your head's at.
Victor: What a surprise.
Phyllis: Would you like to talk about something?
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