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Interview with Baron Vaughn and Virginia Williams of "Fairly
on USA Network 2/24/11.
Cathy Choe, Host
Maria Stasi, Speaker
Baron Vaughn, Speaker
Virginia Williams, Speaker
Moderator Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to
the Fairly Legal Q&A with Baron Vaughn and Virginia Williams Conference
At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will
conduct a question and answer session. Instructions will be given at
that time. If you should require assistance during the call, please
press star, then zero. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.
I would now like to turn the conference over to our host, Miss Cathy
Choe. Please go ahead.
C. Choe Hi, good morning. This is Cathy Choe from New Media Strategies.
Iíd like to thank everyone for joining us for todayís Fairly Legal Q&A
session, and start things off by thanking Baron Vaughn and Virginia
Williams for being with us today to answer questions. As you know, Baron
stars as Leonardo Price, also known as Leo. Virginia stars as Lauren
Reed on the hit series, Fairly Legal, which airs Thursdays at 10/9
In a moment, weíll begin the Q&A session. Iíd like to remind all
participants that you will receive a transcript of this session within
the next 24 to 48 hours. I would also like to remind everyone to please
limit yourselves to one question and one follow-up at a time, and then
re-enter the question queue for any additional questions. This will
ensure that we field as many questions as possible within the allotted
time. I would now like to turn the call back over to our Moderator, Cece,
to begin the formal Q&A session. Please go ahead.
Moderator Our first question comes from the line of Pattye Grippo with
pazsaz.com. Please go ahead.
P. Grippo Hi, guys. Thanks for talking with us today.
V. Williams Yes.
P. Grippo So, let me ask each of you, how did you initially get involved
with the show?
V. Williams Baron, you want to start?
B. Vaughn Oh, ladies first, Virginia.
V. Williams Well, I read the script. And, I really loved the script. I
thought it was wonderfully written. And I actually just really adored
the character of Lauren. I thought she was fascinating.
The scene that really got me on board was in the pilot. She has a scene
with a client who propositions her, and the way that she handles that
situation I just thought was a really cool, and unique, and interesting
way to present this character. She could have definitely been a very
one-dimensional sort of antagonist that weíre supposed to hate and
doesnít have any heart. She could have been seen as a trophy wife.
I thought, no, Iím not interested in playing that. Thatís not going to
be fun for many seasons. That doesnít give her a lot of room to grow.
But, really based on that scene and on the unique dynamic that Kate and
Lauren have with each other, I thought this could be a really fun thing
to explore for hopefully many years to come.
Moderator Our next question comes from the line of Jamie Steinberg with
Starry Constellation. Please go ahead.
C. Choe Hey, Stacy. This is Cathy from NMS again. Could we go back to
that question that Pattye had asked and give Baron a chance to answer
Moderator Certainly. Please go ahead.
B. Vaughn Oh, yes, all right, thank you. First all, I want to show that
that the patternís going to be Virginia says something intelligent and
then I say something dumb. Okay, here we go.
I also read the script and I really liked the character. My character
Leonardo, changed a lot after I auditioned, because they liked what I
did with it. And, they decided that they wanted to make him a little bit
more like me.
So, I enjoyed that. I got to do something that was, thatís very silly.
And, I was like, can I do something thatís silly billy, and they said
sure. And, I said how about silly billy willy, and they said thatís too
much. So, thatís the heart of collaboration.
Moderator Okay, thank you very much. And, our next question then does
come from Jamie Steinberg. Please go ahead.
J. Steinberg Hi. Itís a pleasure to speak with both of you.
V. Williams Thanks.
B. Vaughn Thanks, Jamie.
J. Steinberg Could you each talk about how you found the chemistry
between you and Sarah. Was it instant, or did you take a little bit of
time for everyone to bond?
V. Williams I found the chemistry was instant. I came in for a chemistry
read. I think I was the second person cast. And, I came in to read with
her and the producers, and we just kind of fell in love. She and I are
actually very good friends.
Our on screen animosity is not indicative of how we are with each other.
Weíre quite good friends, and we have a really fun time playing with
each other. I think we have a great rhythm with each other and a lot of
fun, and weíre both really willing to play and explore. So, weíll mess
around with scenes when weíre shooting and kind of get a feel for how we
think itís a go. We have a great time together. I found the chemistry to
be pretty instantaneous, donít you Baron?
B. Vaughn Well, yes. I can attest to that. Virginia and Sarah get along
very well. Itís always been Ė itís interesting being on the set, because
it is funny to see them play like at each otherís throats in the show
and then in between takes, you know, have a little bout of booty dancing
V. Williams God, the booty dance. We do love to booty dance.
B. Vaughn And, the booty dance is very, itís very disorienting because
Virginia is in her very intense Lauren outfit. So, sheís very wrapped
Mine and Sarah, you know I auditioned; I was the only person I believe
that was cast out of New York. So, I didnít meet anybody until we
started shooting the pilot, Ďtil I arrived on set. And, I had done a
little research and looked people up, stuff like that. I was familiar
with Sarahís work. So, I was just happy to work with everybody. But, the
chemistry Iíd say was also pretty intense. Iím very good at playing off
people, and you know, off playing people, too.
J. Steinberg Okay, thank you so much.
Moderator Our next question comes from Krystin Clarke with
popculturemadness.com. Please go ahead.
Joe Hi. Actually, this is Joe in for Krystin. She had to run out. I
guess my big question is for both of you. What is each of your
characterís major motivation? The way I like to phrase it is what gets
them out of bed in the morning?
V. Williams You can go first this time, Baron.
B. Vaughn Okay. Well, I think Leonardo is a Ė I think. Iím saying he is.
Let me give you a more certain phraseology. He is the consummate
observer. So, heís just excited every day to go to work and see what
everyoneís going to get up to, because he gets to live his own reality
show of everybodyís insanities. Then, he gets to be around it.
Then, on top of that, he takes everything that he sees and heís turning
it into ultimately, I think, a graphic novel. So, he is observing life
as it happens in this law firm and all the people and characters around
them. And then one day, I will reiterate those things, except theyíre
dragons and kings and castles.
Joe Okay. How does Lauren, what gets Lauren up in the morning?
V. Williams Thatís a pretty easy question for me, because I, from the
pilot, from the get-go, I decided that Laurenís big motivation is to
win. So, I try to approach every single scene with the overarching
intention of winning. And, that can be done in myriad of different ways.
I think thatís what makes her interesting and fun is that can be played
in so many different ways. You win in any sort of situation by going all
sorts of different routes. I think that she ultimately needs at the end
of the day to have felt accomplished and that she did everything she
could in her power to win that day.
Joe Okay. Well, thank you very much.
V. Williams Yes.
B. Vaughn Thank you.
Moderator Our next question comes from the line of Amy Harrington of Pop
Culture. Please go ahead.
A. Harrington Hi, thank you both for your time today. Iím here with my
sister, Nancy whoís my writing partner. We were wondering if you could
tell us kind of how youíre most like your character and how youíre most
different from your character.
V. Williams Baron, you are Leo, arenít you?
B. Vaughn Yes, I basically am Leonardo in a lot of ways. You know, Iím
always, Iím always there with the sarcastic, sardonic, facetious,
ironic, snarky remarks.
V. Williams Arrogant.
B. Vaughn You know, Iím into a lot of the same things that Leonardo is
into, just as a life-style thing. I hate saying this, but Iím a bit of a
nerd. Iím not necessarily nerdy about the same things. I think that
Leonardo knows more about graphic novels. I know more about musical
theater. Thatís just different.
V. Williams Well, as far as Lauren is concerned, we do have some
similarities. We have our little tendencies. But, weíre quite different.
I actually aspire to be more like Lauren. She is incredibly prompt, and
poised, and meticulous, and so put together. She handles, I think, every
situation with such grace and elegance that I actually, I think in my
own life, try in a lot a ways to be more like her.
Iím a lot goofier than Lauren. Lauren doesnít have much goofy in her.
Virginia has a lot of goofy in her.
B. Vaughn Oh, you said goofy? Are you saying the word goofy?
V. Williams Goofy, with a ďGĒ.
B. Vaughn Oh, I thought you said tooshy, and I was like I have no idea
what that means.
V. Williams Goofy, no goofy. I am way sillier in real life than she is.
Iím definitely more immature than she is. Sheís incredibly mature. But,
yes, I think sheís fabulous and I strive in a lot of ways to be like
You know, I read a blog recently that cracked me up. I think it was
called ďWhen Did Elegant Women Become Villains?Ē It was just sort of
fabulous. It was a fabulous kind of treatise on since when are all of
these wonderful qualities things weíre not supposed to aspire to. I
mean, weíre supposed to delight in the person falling on her face who
actually is poised and well put together and is a role model.
I see her as all those things. I know she is seen as cold, but I donít
think that she actually is cold. I think she just, as I said earlier,
she needs to win and she loved her husband intensely. She just had to
marry a few decades up to find her true love. She just wants desperately
to honor his name and his firm, and to make a name for herself, and to
do everything in her power to put her best face forward, and try to save
Sheíll do whatever it takes. But, she never does anything evil. Thereís
nothing evil about her. I really think sometimes what they say the evil
stepmother, and it kind of cracks me up because I canít find a single
thing in any of the scripts where she does anything thatís actually
evil. She just might approach it in a more cold way. Thatís just the way
that she operates.
We all different ways of operating. And, she cannot be seen as someone
who is incapable. So, her desperate attempt is to always look in control
and capable. And sheís obviously so young. Sheís the same age as Kate.
Sheís so young to be in this position, and to have this job, that her
constant MO is proving to everyone that she can do it.
You know, sheís an underdog. Sheís a woman in a manís world. So, she has
to fight twice as hard, ten times as hard, to be respected and taken
seriously in her position.
A. Harrington ... And, Baron, youíve piqued our interest with the
musical theater comment. If you could, what would be your dream role if
you could be in any movie musical?
B. Vaughn Oh, well that is crazy.
V. Williams Oh, my gosh.
B. Vaughn Glad you asked. You know, as absurd as Jesus Christ Superstar
can be, the role of Judas is a fantastic role in terms of the singing.
Itís just, Iíd say, three notes above my range. But, one day, I will be
able to belt those. Every time I look at you I donít understand why you
let the things you did get so out of hand.
V. Williams Oh, my God, letís make it happen Baron. Iíll play Mary.
Weíre the two musical theater nerds on set. Weíre constantly singing.
Weíre constantly singing all sorts of show tunes while the crew looks on
with probably disdain. We like singing in between takes.
B. Vaughn I think itís disdain and amusement. So, it fits you.
V. Williams There you go.
A. Harrington Well, weíll put it in print and hopefully, it comes true.
V. Williams There you go. Thanks. Iíd appreciate that.
A. Harrington Thank you both for your time. Good luck with the season.
V. Williams Thanks.
B. Vaughn Thank you.
Moderator Our next question comes from Tim Holquinn of Outhouse. Please
T. Holquinn Hi. Itís very nice to speak with both of you. Iíve been a
big fan of yours, Virginia, for a long time.
V. Williams Well, thank you very much.
T. Holquinn Especially in comedy and drama. I really respect your
talent, and itís nice to be introduced to your talent, Baron, on the
V. Williams That was a great way to start the interview, by the way.
T. Holquinn Just an offbeat question. The offbeat question that I would
have is since USA does crossovers if you could Ė are you able to hear
V. Williams Yes.
T. Holquinn Hello, okay. Which show from USAís roster would you most
like to take Lauren or Leonardo to? And, which star from one of those
shows would you like to have come to Fairly Legal?
V. Williams Oh.
B. Vaughn Oh. Go ahead. You go ahead, Virginia.
V. Williams A loaded question. Well, I had a huge Ė oh, Iím sorry. Go
B. Vaughn No, no, you go ahead. You go ahead.
V. Williams Well, I have a huge crush on Mark Feuerstein. So, I would
love to go on Royal Pains. I actually tested for the role of Jill before
I got this. I guess it was a year before, and I really liked that
I thought it was a really good show. I think it all worked out for the
best. I think Iím absolutely meant to play Lauren, and I love what I
think I can specifically bring to her, so things happen for a reason.
But, I think thatís a really fun show and everyone on it is just
adorable. I guess that would be one Iíd love to be a part of.
I am a big Dulť fan, too, though. So, Iíd love to have Lauren go over to
Psych and maybe help them with some legal case they may be in. That
would be lots of fun, too.
T. Holquinn Thanks.
B. Vaughn Thatís great. Yes, I actually know Reshma. I knew Reshma back
in New York. She brought me a nice little ... the other day. Anyway. I
think my answer can be summed up by a line that I would say. ďMichael
Westen, meet Neal Caffrey.Ē
T. Holquinn Yes.
B. Vaughn Thatís what I would do. Yes, definitely. It would be in Miami,
but Neilís got to come down to help Michael with something, and Leonardo
is the only one who knows how to do the programming that they need to
get done, and then stuff will explode. Then, me and Bruce Campbell will
be best friends.
T. Holquinn That sounds awesome.
V. Williams I think I mention, too, I just noticed that two of the shows
I mentioned are two of the most comedic shows on USA. They have more of
a comedy bent than some of the others. I think that thatís actually
probably what Iím really thirsty for right now is doing more comedy. I
love comedy. I feel very much like comedy is a forte of mine, and Lauren
doesnít get a lot of opportunities to be funny. So, letís hope and pray
that in future seasons we get to see Lauren in more comedy. Maybe she
can let her hair down, literally and figuratively, and make some people
B. Vaughn Hereís whatís going to happen. Lauren and Leo go on a road
trip and the car breaks down. Uh-oh, comedy ensues.
V. Williams Oh, I see that comedy in the news.
T. Holquinn And Mandy Patinkin happens by to help fix your tire.
B. Vaughn Ha, yes.
V. Williams There you go.
B. Vaughn We all sing a very nice trio.
V. Williams Yes, then it turns into a musical.
T. Holquinn Thanks, guys.
B. Vaughn Thank you.
V. Williams Thank you.
Moderator Our next question comes from Jamie Ruby, scifivision.com.
Please go ahead.
J. Ruby Hi. Thanks so much for taking the call.
V. Williams Mm-hum. Thank you.
J. Ruby So, you guys, obviously, thereís a lot of legal stuff on the
show. Did you have to do any special research or preparation to kind of
learn about it?
V. Williams I did. I was given a really unique opportunity to speak with
the top mergers and acquisitions attorney in the nation. I sat in her
office for about half an hour and she was so gracious to sit down and
talk to me. And, really, I came in more doing character research of what
her day to day is like.
Of course, I have in each episode; have to do some research as to what
the heck Iím talking about, since I did not go to law school. I Google
who have been my friends big time. I have some friends that are
attorneys. So, theyíve gotten some late night calls from me when I get
scripts and going what the heck is this court appeals what? So, theyíve
all been helpful.
But, I found this one woman particularly intriguing and interesting in
just looking around her office and hearing about her day to day. She
said she answers over 400 e-mails a day. That immediately gave me so
much to work with as a character. If youíre someone whoís that important
in answering 400 e-mails a day, you are never not busy and you do not
have time for tardiness.
You do not have time for silly antics. I mean you can see why Lauren is
so frustrated with Kate so much, because for her it is not a game. It is
a job. It is very furious. I think when Lauren feels disrespected,
thatís about as low a blow as you could deal her.
I found it really interesting when I was watching her and how she Ė she
never goes to the bathroom without her Blackberry, because there is
something she can be doing while she is sitting on that toilet, some
e-mail she can answer. She doesnít put her lipstick on without having
one eye on the computer screen as well. So, I found that really
intriguing and very interesting.
And, her office, which is this gorgeous office in Beverly Hills, itís a
great view, looks out over the city. Itís hilarious, super nice artwork
all over the walls. Yet, it looked like not like a tornado had hit.
Everything was very neatly stacked together, but there were stacks and
piles of paper from the second you walked in the door all the way back
to her desk. And of course, I asked for that on set. And of course, they
said no, this is TV. We have to make it look pretty, which I understand.
But, that being said, in almost every scene I would ask props, hey, can
I have this extra prop? Can I help carry this binder? Iím going to need
to be carrying this file as well. Can we make sure that my desk isnít
too neat and clean? I need to have piles and stacks of paper at least
somewhere around it at all times, because that is what is realistic.
And, thatís how much she has to do.
J. Ruby Oh, yes. What about you, Baron?
B. Vaughn I actually lived Leonardoís life. I worked at a law firm for
two years in New York. It was a corporate law firm and I wasnít an
assistant, such as it was, but I was in charge of every piece of
physical documentation in the office.
I was in charge of knowing where all pieces of correspondence were, all
pieces of, all the affidavits, certificates, certain stuff like that. I
filed it, made sure that it was somewhere. I was Google at this place. I
was the walking Lexis-Nexis, if you will. That it would be like, Baron,
I need the certificate of incorporation on the Morrison file. Then, I
would go and retrieve that document and then put it back when they were
done with it.
Of course, a lot of it, itís funny that thatís what Virginia says what
she does, because I observed people who were Lauren and as Baron is how
I think Leonardo feels about it, where Iím like sheís got to take her
Blackberry to the bathroom. Canít someone just get some privacy in the
And having to go into the tornado offices and go through paperwork
because sometimes there was stuff on the desk that was under a pile
under another pile that someone else needed. Or, it just needed to be in
a particular place, because there was a lot of people asking me for
stuff that was on their desk, but they didnít know it because under all
this stuff. So, I kind of got to see how insane these people can be and
how I wish that they could just not. Iím kind of like I would just be
there oh, man I hope you go to the beach, but just do something, sit
down. Donít read, just be on the beach in the sun.
And, I think well, they liked me. They kept me around because I was
funny, you know. That was the contradiction of it. They were very
entertained by me, but every now and then, Iíd get a talk for like, oh,
I donít really want you to be all that funny. But, I donít know if you
could be less funny today. Thereís important people coming in. They
donít like humor.
J. Ruby Thatís great. Then, as a follow up, could you guys talk about
working with Richard Dean Anderson?
V. Williams Sure. I think heís a delight to work with. I think heís just
incredibly kind and giving as an actor and as a person. I used to be a
tap dancer and his daughter taps. So, we have lots of conversations
about tap dancing and about his family. I just think he was so much fun.
Some of my favorite days were days that he worked and weíd have time
when if we werenít shooting a particular scene and weíd go out and hang
out by the trailers and chat some. I think heís just gracious.
J. Ruby Okay.
B. Vaughn Well, I Ė RDA. I didnít get to work with him that much. But, I
was extremely excited about getting to meet him and getting to work with
him, because heís an icon. You know, I went to Europe and I was telling
people about this show. And I was like, oh, yes, we were just shooting
with Richard Dean Anderson, but I donít know whether you know thatís
McGyver. What? McGyver. People freaked out.
And, if itís not that, then itís Stargate. People know who he is and it
was just really cool to watch him work. And, heís a seasoned
professional. So, just from the little I did get to work with him, I did
feel like I learned a lot.
J. Ruby Thatís cool. Well, thank you both very much for your time.
V. Williams Mm-hum, thank you.
Moderator Our next question comes from Sanni Turano with TV Grapevine.
Please go ahead.
S. Turano Hi, good morning. Itís great to talk to the both of you again.
V. Williams Thanks.
B. Vaughn Morning.
S. Turano Yes. My first question for you is who would be a dream guest
star to have on the show?
V. Williams Iím sorry. Who was that question for? Both of us?
S. Turano Both of you, yes.
B. Vaughn Who would be a dream guest star?
V. Williams Good lord, I can answer that quickly.
B. Vaughn Whoís that?
V. Williams I mean I know itís so obvious, but Meryl Streep. I mean she
has been doing some guesting on I know an HBO show and whatever. I just
think sheís the most incredible actress of our generation. And, Iím
clearly in the same boat with everyone else, but, still, every single
thing I watch her in. I remember when I was in Vancouver and we were
shooting, Death Becomes Her came on TV, which might be the worst movie
in the world. I sat and I watched ...
B. Vaughn ...
V. Williams I sat and I watched the whole thing. I had like a 5 a.m.
call or something and itís like midnight. I couldnít turn the TV off
because every single thing she did was brilliant. I just think she has
this amazing ability to transform into any character, and I would kill
to be able to work with her, and pick her brain, and just have a
conversation with her.
I think in my work, I try really hard to pick very different roles. I
donít just keep playing myself over and over. In fact, I rarely play
someone similar to me, Ginger Ė Virginia Ė itís my nickname. I so often
play different types of characters that are quite different from who I
really am. And, I think sheís done the best job of anyone, male or
female, of really transforming herself every time she performs. So, Iíd
kill to work with her, period, in any capacity.
S. Turano Okay. And, who do you think would be a great romantic interest
for Leo; if they were eventually to go that route?
B. Vaughn Well, later in the season we are going to meet a romantic
interest. But, if I had my choice, are you talking about like as an
actor that would come on the show, actress, actor that would come on the
show to play romantic choice?
S. Turano Yes, yes.
B. Vaughn Oh, man. I think that ... Iíd be very fascinated to know what
the story was if Leo walked into Reed & Reed holding hands with someone
like Rene Russo, or Frances McDormand.
V. Williams So, youíre thinking youíre personal preference.
B. Vaughn Yes, or a Kimberly Lee, somebody like that. I would be
interested to see what the back story of that would be.
S. Turano Oh, wow. What about you? What about you, Virginia? Who do you
think would be good for Leo?
V. Williams Good for Leo?
S. Turano Yes.
V. Williams I think somebody just as fun and quirky as Leo is. Someone
that he could have really quick, ridiculous banter with would be the
most fun to watch. Heís a really unique character on our show and, and
well every characterís unique and very different in their own way. He
doesnít have any one he can really spar with. He somewhat can spar with
Kate, but I think if he had an equal nerd, it would be really fun to
watch them go at it. I donít know who that would be, though. Iíll have
to think about that.
B. Vaughn That would be our, that would be the shirt that we would wear.
Theyíd both say equal nerds. Weíd walk around those shirts.
S. Turano I love it. I love that so much. Thank you, guys. Iím so glad
B. Vaughn Thank you.
Moderator And our next question comes from Troy Rogers, TheDeadBolt.com.
Please go ahead.
T. Rogers Hi, Baron. Hi, Virginia.
B. Vaughn Hi, Troy.
V. Williams Hi.
T. Rogers Baron, you said that Leo was a little different when you first
started. How much input do you have in his dialog and what he does?
B. Vaughn I think I have as much input as anybody else, and I feel like
we all get quite a bit of input in who weíre talking to and what weíre
saying. Every now and then, since Iím also a writer and, you know, write
shows and stuff like that, the writers like my input in terms of, like,
the rhythm of a scene or the rhythm of a joke or cleaning up the
language. You know, and especially as someone whoís a stand-up comedian,
you want to save the most important information Ďtil the end of a line.
So sometimes if thereís something that I think will be better if the
sentence is structured differently, I get to do that quite a bit.
And then there are a lot of times where Iíve gotten the improv. Like
there was on the last couple episodes ago, ďBo Me Once,Ē which was about
a woman that had a barbeque recipe, was running from her father. There
was a scene in which I give Kate some paper work, and I make a few jokes
that are, kind of like, about cooking, and there was one where I give
her some paperwork and she says something like, ďWell, this is
interesting,Ē and Iím like, ďYes, only in occasions that are rare,Ē and
that was improvised. I came up with that when we were rehearsing, and
they let me keep it. I was like, ďThatís not going to make it to the
final cut,Ē and yet it did.
T. Rogers But then you were mentioning booty dancing and show tunes.
What other kind of things do you guys get up to on-set off camera?
V. Williams I know we mentioned this earlier, but thereís a lot of
singing. Baron and I love to sing, and Sarah loves to join in as well. I
think she has a lovely voice. She says she doesnít sing as much, but I
would disagree with her. I think she has a lovely voice.
B. Vaughn Itís all in her head. Thatís in her head.
V. Williams The three of us have scenes together a lot. I think Leo and
Lauren through season one donít have too much interaction with Justin.
Pretty much Kate is with Justin, but within the office Leo and Lauren
and Kate have a lot of interaction together where one or two of them
will enter and leave a scene somewhere in the course of the scene. So
the three of us get to play together a lot, and we just sing and laugh
and dance and itís so funny when you seeóI think, Baron always gets so
jarred by, ďOh my gosh, you just transform into Lauren when you
startówhen they say action,Ē because Iím so goofy off camera, but we
really laugh and we joke a lot and thereís a lot of dancing.
You know, these are long days. You work sometimes over 16 hour days and
youíre up at 4:00-5:00 in the morning and youíre exhausted, and the only
thing besides another cup of coffee at 10:00 at night thatís going to
keep you going is to turn up the music. One us will pull our iPhone out
and put on some music on it and just dance while theyíre setting up the
And Baron has this greatóthereís an episode where he gets an iPad. So
anyway, he has an iPad on set a lot. So thereís this app thatóBaron
youíll have to tell them what it is. Itís some app that doesóitís a
sitcom laugh track.
B. Vaughn Ö iPads, like, because the crew and the background actors are
so good-natured too so we all have a lot of fun. This guy Ben, who was
one of the prop masters, put a few apps on the iPad, and one was a
sitcom app where it has three different sizes of laugh. Like a small
laugh, a big laugh, and a medium laugh, some applause, and then like
people going, ďOooooh and woohoo.Ē Like basically itís like Married with
Children sound effects, and every now and then I would break it out when
people were talking. I was just hitting buttons just to make it all
sitcomy. Everybody had a lot of fun with it.
T. Rogers Thanks, guys. Good luck with the show.
V. Williams Thanks.
B. Vaughn Thank you.
Moderator Our next question comes from Guillermo Paz with Series&TV.com.
Please go ahead.
G. Paz Hi. How are you, Virginia and Baron?
V. Williams Great. Thank you.
G. Paz I have one for each. The first one is for Baron. You play a geek
role in Leonardo Ö . What would be the ultimate dream for Leo as to
something happening on the show? And also what would be Baronís ultimate
dream of something to play on the show?
B. Vaughn Iím sorry, you said what would be the ultimate dream for Leo
to happen on the show?
G. Paz For Leo and for you, for Baron, for both of your Jekyll and Hyde.
B. Vaughn I I think this is a similarity between us. He wants the
respect of his peers. So I think for him to get some sort of indy cred
where heís written some sort of really cool graphic novel or he has
conquered some video game in the way that somebody hasnít. Where itís
like heís recognized in a national level on something that a very
specific group of people love. That he would be like, ďYes. I have this
comic book I wrote that has taken off, and somebody wants to make it
into a movie. Thatís awesome.Ē I think that would be like his ultimate
dream is to continue to do that.
For me on the show, you know Iím hoping to get to open up Leo a little
bit more. I feel like on the show heís pretty reserved, but thereís
another level, and Iím interested in showing the audience the other
level. Maybe a little bit more of the personal life of Leonardo, and
maybe some things that he struggles with in terms of his family or his
friends or just his issues in general that start to affect his, I guess,
his performance or he starts to take it to work. Iím interested in
exploding the view of Leo and making himó solidifying his three
G. Paz Great. Thanks. And for Virginia, Kate told Lauren on the pilot,
ďI hate you. Itís simpler that way.Ē That kind of summarized the whole
relationship from Kateís point of view. What do you think would
summarize it, but from Laurenís point of view?
V. Williams Well, I donít know that I can summarize it in a one sentence
little quip right now, but I can just speak to their relationship and
how I think Lauren feels about it. I donít think that Lauren hates Kate
the way that Kate hates Lauren. Meaning I donít think that Lauren agrees
with or respects the way that Kate handles her business or her personal
life, and I think it drives Lauren a little crazy because theyíre just
such different people.
But I think thereís a very special and unique relationship that someone
has when their parents remarries period, but certainly when they remarry
someone thatís their age. I, luckily, donít have personal experience in
that. My parents are happily married, but if my father and my mother
split and my father were with someone my age, boy Iíd tell you what, I
would not be very happy about it. I would hope I would be evolved and
mature enough to be happy for them if that was what made both parties
happy, and that was the best thing for my dad, but it would absolutely,
it would totally kill me. And so you understand Kateís distaste for
Lauren because that would be really, really hard. That would be very
But I donít think that Lauren hates Kate in quite the same way. Thereís
a different relationship there that happens because she married Kateís
father and she loves Kateís father so much. I think Lauren can
understand that Kate isnít 100% happy about him remarrying, but I think
she also feels like itís time to grow up and get on with it and be an
adult. Weíre not 16 here. Weíre adults, and I think thatís where
Laurenís frustration with Kate comes from because she knows sheís her
age, yet she acts so incredibly differently, and their maturity levels
are on opposite ends of the spectrum.
G. Paz Okay. Great. Thanks so much, both.
V. Williams Mhm. Thank you.
B. Vaughn Thank you.
Moderator And we have a follow-up from Jamie Ruby with SciFiVision.com.
Please go ahead.
J. Ruby Hello again.
V. Williams Hello.
J. Ruby So for both of you, whatís been your favorite scene that youíve
V. Williams Iím going to go with episode four when Lauren gets to get
drunk. I had a lot of fun shooting all of her drunk scenes. It was such
a digression from how we normally see Lauren, and it was so fun just to
give her some looseness and let her play a little bit. What I think made
it so fun and so great is that it still was within, absolutely, still
within the character of Lauren. She 100% tried to keep herself together
the whole time. She just got drunk, and isnít that what drunk people do?
You canítódrunk people donít try to act drunk. Drunk people try to act
So it was very fun and challenging to have the body work and the vocal
work and the slurring and all that kind of stuff of having her drunk,
yet still trying very hard to keep the character of Lauren in tact and
to be pulled together and still, you know, in her mind trying to be in
control. That was really, that was really a joy for me to shoot that. I
hope we get to see Lauren trashed more.
J. Ruby It was a great scene.
V. Williams Thanks.
J. Ruby Baron?
B. Vaughn Iím interested to see how certain scenes turn out, because I
feel like stuff that I had fun doing hasnít aired yet. So Iím interested
to seeóbecause along with America, Iím seeing how the show is coming
together, you know, and like seeing what takes they use. What angles
they use. Which interpretations they used. So Iím interested to see how
certain things will play out.
There was a scene I had with these two brothers that were like these old
Italian men that owned, like, I think a drycleaner, and they were just
mad at each other, and I kind of tried to disputeóbecause Kate is busy,
I tried to resolve their dispute by using the skills that I have, like
playing Dungeons and Dragons and stuff like that. So Iím interested to
see how thatís going to turn out, but it hasnít aired yet. And then also
some of the stuff with the girl who becomes my interest, Iím interested
to see how that stuff turns out too.
V. Williams I think just to button your question, I would say that in
general, anything that anytime we get to see Lauren start to fall apart
and pull it back together, those are my favorite scenes to play. Whether
itís through drinking or whetheróI hope that in future seasons we have
someóI hope Laurenís mom comes to town or something, and we see some
fabulous dynamic between her and her mother because thereís nothing like
a mother and a daughterís relationship. Something that would just rattle
her and make her absolutely start to fall apart and be really out of her
element and not in control and the struggle of watching her try to
regain control and keep composure. I think those are always the most fun
scenes to play and the juiciest, most interesting ones.
J. Ruby Thatíd be great. So can you guys talk about how you got started
V. Williams Sure. Well I really started in musical theater as a child. I
was a singer and a dancer. I actually didnít think that I would
necessarily become an actor. I really wanted to be a singer or a dancer.
I actually auditioned for The Mickey Mouse Clubóthis was just brought up
yesterday with somebody I was talking to. I had gotten it, but I was
two-and-a-half months too old. I think you had toóyou couldnít turn 16
by a certain time or something like that, but it was the same year as
Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears and Christina and all them, and I
was just a little bit too old so I couldnít do it. I was heartbroken,
but oh my word, how different my life and career would have been if I
had gone on Mickey Mouse ClubhouseĒ Iím quite grateful that it didnít
work out that way and that I went another path and fell in love with the
craft of acting and am now hopefully a better adjusted human being and
actor. But I love musicals and I love that.
Then when I was a senior in high school I came out to audition for
Fordham University at Lincoln Centerís Theater Department, and while I
was there, I had been doing a little bit of modeling and stuff and my
New York manager said, ďWell, if you stay one more day thereís this
little part on ďOne Life to Liveí and itís only three days or something,
but it would be your first professional gig. You should stay and
audition for it.Ē So I did, and ended up getting in the school.
Thatís where I ended up going to college, and I ended up booking the
part on One Life, and it turned into about a yearlong job. So my senior
year of high school, I would fly back and forth from Memphis, where Iím
from, and I finished up high school, but I would fly to New York and
shoot a couple days a week of One Life and then go back to Memphis. I
thought, ďWell geesh, it must all be this easy.Ē
But that was my first professional job. I was very lucky at that age to
have been able to have started work and learn a little about cameras and
scenes and all the kind of fun stuff, and then I quit acting
professionally just to be a full time student. I realized I couldnít do
both. So I studied in New York and I got my degree from Fordham, and I
studied at Oxford and in London and got all of my Shakespeare and all of
my classical training. Then after I got all of that training, then I
went back into the professional world and started working after college.
Iíve just been working really in film and television for the most part,
some theater, but for the most part film and television ever since. But
I do miss musical theater and I absolutely hope to do that again
someday. Thatís me.
J. Ruby Okay. Great. What about you, Baron?
B. Vaughn I developed a sense of humor to not get beat up in my
neighborhood when I was younger. I was a bit of a class clown in my
middle school in Las Vegas, Nevada, and the librarian of our school was
the wife of the principal of the Performing Arts High School that had
just kind of started in Vegas. It had been around for about two or three
years. So I auditioned to go to this school. I remember it very
specifically because it was a Saturday, and I wanted to go at a
particular time because I did not want to miss professional bowling
followed by Hercules: The Legendary Journeys and Xena: Warrior Princess.
So I was like, ďI gotta watch bowling, and Hercules and Xena. Thatís
what I call a Saturday. Anybody Ďlong?Ē
So I ended up going to this performing arts high school in Vegas, and
weíve actually had a couple successful graduates. Myself; singer/
recording artist Ne-Yo; Matthew Grey Gubler, whoís on the show, I
believe, Criminal Minds; and Rutina Wesley, whoís a good friend of mine
who I keep in touch with, is on the show True Blood. So I went there
then I got serious about acting because I was resistant. Ö like, ďYouíre
so funny all the time.Ē Iím like, ďNo. I want to play Walter Lee in
ĎRaisin in the Sun.íĒ
So I applied for like ten theatre schools and ended up going to Boston
University School of Theater Arts. Then after that, I moved to New York
and I started doing standup while I was in college. So I have this dual
pronged effect of going out for auditions and commercials and whatnot
while honing my voice as a comedian, as a standup comedian and a writer.
Thatís kind of how it all started just from me trying not to get beat up
and taking those skills and applying it to things that other people had
written, and now Iím trying to write some myself. Boom house.
J. Ruby Do you ever want to write for the show in the future?
B. Vaughn Iíve actually thought about this and had a brief conversation
with Michael about it, Michael Sardo, the creator. Itís something thatís
in the air, but Iíd have to go through a few other channels to do that,
but right now I have a couple cartoons and whatnot that Iíve written
that Iím trying to get going forward. But who knows, man. Man, who
J. Ruby Okay. Good luck with that. Thank you both of you.
V. Williams Thank you.
B. Vaughn Thank you.
Moderator And our next follow-up question is Tim Holquinn, Out House.
Please go ahead.
T. Holquinn Hi again. Iíve got one more question for both of you, but
this oneís first for Baron. I was wondering if you have been in the past
or plan on going to ComicCon. I know you had saved those panels
discussions they did for Psych and Burn Notice 2010. Might Fairly Legal
do one for this year?
B. Vaughn I have no idea, but if it were to happen I would be there. I
would come dressed as two different things. Like the top half would be
Captain Jack Sparrow and the bottom half would be Tron. Everybody would
say, ďWhat are you?Ē and I would say, ďConfused. Hello!Ē
T. Holquinn Great. Hopefully Iíll get to be there too because Iím hoping
to attend myself. And Virginia, your talents allowed you to do two
things at once with the drunkenness, but your scenes with John Ashton, I
really appreciated how you had to stand up to the old guard, you know,
and I was just wondering if that was an area that youíre character might
have to encounter more of because of her husbandís advanced age? He
might have known a lot of guys who thought that way with whom you might
now have to deal with.
V. Williams Sure. I think thatís a struggle that Lauren deals with
daily. Even in the pilot episode I have a conversation, Lauren has a
conversation, with Kate where she tells her all of the people who have
already jumped ship, and as soon as Teddy died the people that were near
and dear friends to them have already gone to other law firms. So she
constantly has to fight and constantly has to prove to everyone that
though she may be young and inexperienced, she is still capable. Thatís
why she works so hard.
So I think that she constantly is dealing with that old school
mentality. She certainly married someone much, much older, and she knows
full well that a lot of people viewed her as a trophy wife or something
like that, but she knows that she really did love him and she knows that
they had a unique and special bond. I think that they really got each
other and they loved each other. So sheís always dealing with these
older men, and not just older men, younger men. I mean, geesh, look even
in the pilot someone whoóheís probably still quite a bit older than
Lauren, but the man that propositions her at the dinner table.
I mean, I think that sheís an underdog, and sheís a woman in a manís
world, and sheís seen as a sex object and incapable, and she has to
constantly overcompensate by that. I think thatís why she dresses the
way she does and wears her hair so ridiculously severely to try to do
everything she can to present this image that she can take care of
herself and that she can take care of you, the client.
B. Vaughn I mean, James Brown said it best,í ďItís a man world, but it
wouldnít mean nothing, nothing without a woman or a girl.Ē I think we
could all agree with that right?
T. Holquinn I thought that was your best episode. So I hope to see more
V. Williams Thank you so much. I appreciate that.
Moderator We have a follow-up question from Guillermo Paz Series&TV.com.
Please go ahead.
C. Choe And Stacy, before we head on to Guillermo, we have time for one
last question. So Guillermoís call will be the last one for today.
Moderator Thank you.
G. Paz Okay. I just Ö . this one is for both of you. USA Network has a
perfect score so far in terms of new shows getting renewal orders. Does
that bring everybody calm around or does it put more pressure to
V. Williams Iím sorry, could you repeat the question?
G. Paz Yes. I said the USA Network has a perfect score so far in terms
of new shows getting renewal orders. Does that bring everybody calm
there or does it put more pressure to deliver with the show?
V. Williams I donít think thereís any calm, my friend. I wish there was.
You never know whatís going to happen, and you never really know why it
happens so often. It is true, they do have a perfect score, and USA is a
phenomenal network to be a part of and one of the reasons, Iím sure, all
of us in the cast chose to be a part of this show, and weíre honored to
be a part of it, is because of the great track record. Youíre probably
going to get a much better shot of having multiple seasons on here when
you do something for USA then you are for another network, be it cable
So I think that in some ways thereís a sense of anticipation and
excitement in that weíre probably more likely to get picked up, but
there are no guarantees in this world, and as actors we go from job to
job. So we sure hope so. I think we all love this show and we all want
to continue to be a part of it. I know for myself I have fallen in love
with the character of Lauren. I find her, of course Iím biased, but I
find her the most interesting and complex of all of them and I would
love to be able to explore her more and to play with her for years to
come. But there areó
B. Vaughn Hey, I think Iím the most interesting and complex. How dare
V. Williams I said Iím biased. I said Iím biased.
B. Vaughn I know. Iím joking.
V. Williams But no, but I do. I just think sheís delicious. But yes, I
would love to be able to play her for years to come, but none of us have
any guarantees in this business. The entertainment industry is a very
finicky one. So we just cross our fingers and pray to the ratings gods
and hope that USA will smile upon us and give us another shot. What do
you say, Baron?
B. Vaughn I absolutely agree with that. USA is veryótheyíre very picky
with what they develop in the first place. So for them to go forward
with the show at all is already a tremendous vote of confidence. Of
course, Iím hoping and wishing and praying, as that song goes, that we
will have a few seasons. I believe Heidegger said it best, ďJust because
something has happened in the past doesnít mean it will in the future,Ē
but you can hope and have a good attitude about it, and if it doesnít
happen then Iíll cry for a day, eat a lot of Cocoa Puffs, but I will put
myself back on Baron horse and go somewhere.
V. Williams I think weíre all quite confidence, to button this, I think
weíre all quite confidant that the showís doing well. People are
responding to it. It has a great lead-in of royal pains. I think itís a
wonderful pairing, these two shows together, and the response has been
pretty incredible. I think I heard somewhere it was the best-reviewed
USA show ever before it launched. So hopefully the audience will
continue to find it and to keep watching, but I think weíre all pretty
darn confident it will be renewed. We would just like them to go ahead
and give us that gold star so we can start planning our lives.
B. Vaughn That is the key. That is the key.
V. Williams Iíd like to know where Iím going to live in the next few
months. If itís going to be Vancouver or L.A. or somewhere else, but
weíre all really confident and weíre all really excited about it.
G. Paz Thanks so much, both of you.
V. Williams Thank you.
C. Choe Ladies and gentlemen, that will conclude todayís session. Iíd
like to once again thank Baron and Virginia for joining us, and remind
everyone to tune into new episodes of Fairly Legal on Thursdays at
10:00/9:00 Central on USA Network. Thanks again and enjoy the rest of
V. Williams Thank you.
B. Vaughn Thanks, guys.
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