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Interview with Callie Thorne of "Necessary Roughness" on
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CALLIE THORNE CONFERENCE CALL
Moderator: Amanda Altschuler
August 23, 2012
1:30 pm CT
Amanda Altschuler: Hi, everyone. Thank you for joining todayís call with
Callie Thorne, the summer finale of ďNecessary RoughnessĒ will air next
Wednesday, August 29, on USA Network. We welcome your coverage to
coincide with that date. As a reminder, please ask one question at a
time, and weíll make sure to come back to you if time permits.
Due to Callieís instruction schedule, weíll need the call - weíll need
to wrap this call in about 30 minutes. At this time, please welcome
Callie to the line.
Callie Thorne: Hello, everybody. Thank you for joining us today.
Amanda Altschuler: Weíre very happy...
Amanda Altschuler: Please open the floor for questioning.
Operator: At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please
press Star 1 on your telephone keypad. Your first question comes from
(Alexandra Pachetta) at (unintelligible).com.
Callie Thorne: Hello, (Alexandra).
Alexandra Pachetta: Hi, Callie. Itís a pleasure to speak with you.
Iíve spoken with many others who have be on ďNecessary RoughnessĒ, but
Iíve never had the chance to speak with you, so itís a pleasure.
Callie Thorne: Oh, (unintelligible) I wanted to do.
Alexandra Pachetta: I wanted to ask you about future (unintelligible),
as I know a few things then, I wanted to know something about the path
to personal wealth that awaits (unintelligible) herself. What I mean is
that she asks everyone to figure out their life, including the romantic
But it seems that while she knows what she wants, because I think itís
pretty clear at this point that what she wants and needed next, she
wonít admit it to herself, and she has a hard time figuring out how to
get there. And I know there are many complications in upcoming episodes,
including Dani going to see a therapist for herself...
Callie Thorne: Yes...
Alexandra Pachetta: That we would see that in the winter. But, and I
also know that at the end season, there will be one case in particular
that will be a wakeup call for her in terms of, stop waiting and putting
happiness on hold. The life doesnít last forever, and you need to grab
it while you can. Can you tell us a bit more about the past
(unintelligible) upcoming until the end of the season?
Callie Thorne: Well, that, in think that, in regards to the past, itís
such a good question, you know, because she is the fixer, and, you know,
the idea of this fixer needing help to be fixed herself. And in regards
to Matt, itís, you know, that - how weíve seen that relationship come to
such a big wall in regards to the fact that Matt definitely wants kids,
and Dani sort of makes this big sacrifice because she doesnít want kids,
and she doesnít want to feel like sheís stopping Matt from his own
So, there - itís obvious that they love each other, but now theyíre in
this weird limbo. And it kind of sets up her feeling vulnerable and - in
regards to her relationship with Nico as well, and how they are polar
opposites and always have been as men, and in her life and as weíre
coming to this summer finale, because she - we see her in her private
life, in the most vulnerable in regards to her kids as well, and points
that theyíre reaching in her life, itís sort of, every which way she
turns, everything feels like a question.
And she canít answer them. And yet, where we go to in a little bit is
that we finally see her reach out for help and (Peter McNichol), who
plays the therapist is genius. And those therapy scenes -- I donít want
to give anything away -- but, theyíre really eye-opening for her, and
But this point now, this strange limbo that can be a little bit
paralyzing, leaves her to wonder whether or not sheís making the wrong
decision with Matt and possibly finding herself losing the love of her
life and then because of the work circumstances, suddenly it - thereís
this open possibility with Nico, which then throws her into, you know,
And the one thing that it does do, it keeps her grounded in the work,
because thatís the one place that she can go to that she knows answers
and she can, you know, use her own questions to help her guide her
patients and help them.
But then at the end of the day, sheís still struggling and it -
thankfully, you know, thatís what we do on our show, and we donít tie
everything up in a bow. And I think itís very interesting for the
audience to sort of be with her in the present and see that she is a
woman, you know, with the relatable problems that everybody can find
Alexandra Pachetta: Definitely. And I know that involves
(unintelligible) as well, right, because a lot her (unintelligible)
Callie Thorne: Thatís...
Alexandra Pachetta: That her relationship with Matt as well, right, as
well. Thereís a lot of trouble (Rayga) gets in...
Callie Thorne: Oh, (Raygay)...
Alexandra Pachetta: (Raygay) trouble...
Callie Thorne: Yes...
Alexandra Pachetta: Thatís what links back her relationship with Matt
as well, right?
Callie Thorne: Yes. That comes up in a little bit, and you know, because
(Rayjay) is sort of - heís becoming man. And heís - he finds himself in
a situation where he - heís wanting and needing to make these choices
that, as mother, Dani canít come to grips with.
And, again, thatís a place where every mother finds herself at some
point, whether itís for the son or daughter. And I - the way the writers
handle that hurdle - it is a parallel in regards to her own life and to
some of the patients that come her way.
And I think that whether or not she makes mistakes, whether theyíre with
her love life or with her children or her own placement in her life,
there all seems that - I think and hope will make others contemplate
their own choices in life and that thereís- I donít think that things
can ever be right or wrong, itís just the paths that you take, the forks
in your life.
And thatís really where we find the - in the season finale, is itís
about the forks in life, and that thereís no right or wrong, itís just
the way that you handle yourself and following the truth that you find
yourself in. And thatís just struggle. Thatís hard to do, but it makes
everything that much more worth it.
Alexandra Pachetta: Definitely. Thank you so much.
Callie Thorne: Of course, thank you.
Operator: And a question comes from Lisa Steinberg, (Starry
Callie Thorne: Hi Lisa.
Lisa Steinberg: Hi, Callie. Good afternoon. Itís such a dream come true
to get to talk to you. Iíve loved you ever since ďRescue MeĒ and Iím
sure (unintelligible), but itís a real pleasure to get to speak with
Callie Thorne: You too.
Lisa Steinberg: Thank you. I know - you just talked a little bit about
Daniís evolution, but I want to speak a little bit about your own
evolution through the character. You - I also write for the Huffington
Post and I wrote an article about ďNecessary RoughnessĒ when you were
nominated for your Golden Globe. And I Callied your portrayal ďachingly
Callie Thorne: Yes, I remember, which I thank you for tremendously. That
is ingrained in my mind.
Lisa Steinberg: Well, I - I mean, the words say it all and I want to
find out how you evolved as an actress through playing these really
powerful, strong female roles that kind of seem to be a little bit rare
nowadays, you know, with shows like The Closer going off the air.
Callie Thorne: Yes. I feel very, very lucky to be in this place, you
know, especially jumping from ďRescue MeĒ with a role like (Sheila) into
the role of Dani, and you know, they are polar opposites. And - but one
is not easier than the other.
And I remember that we spoke about stuff like that before. But,
especially through the second season, and especially now, with the
mid-season finale, as an actress and as a woman, because Dani - though I
have a lot similarities with Dani, how she is at work and how she - the
drive that she has to, you know, follow a path for her patients and
follow a path for herself, and that she, you know, has guts, or at last
will fake it until she makes it.
You know, and I try to live myself that way. The fact that sheís a
mother and, you know, also the place where she is in the triangle in her
life and, you know, the idea of possibly losing the love of your life,
those are things, at least right now, I know nothing about in my real
And it makes playing this character one of the richest times of my life
because I have to do my homework. I have to sit and think. You know,
sometimes with a role or with a scene, itís something that you can just,
you know, say, what would I do in this moment, and you just stay honest
and you follow through on, you know, your connection with the other
But there are a lot of moments in ďNecessary RoughnessĒ where, you know,
I have to take a timeout. I canít joke in between takes, which, you
know, we are all wont to do. I have to sort of separate myself, and
whether or not that means listening to particular song or remembering
conversations that Iíve had with other women that are in places like
Itís why you (unintelligible), itís why you become an actor. You want to
find those places and tell those stories as honestly as you can, but
itís putting yourself through that thought process that will then,
hopefully, elevate my real life and how I handle myself in my real life.
I canít think of another job that would ever let me do that or ever lead
me down those paths and I feel very grateful.
Lisa Steinberg: Iíd also like to hear a little bit about the fan
feedback that you receive. I know that you donít have, you know, Twitter
and the social media aspect of getting that instant feedback, but are
people still coming up to you in Atlanta where you film, or...
Callie Thorne: Yes...
Lisa Steinberg: From home...
Callie Thorne: In Atlanta, we are incredibly well-received as a cast,
and, you know, I donít have a lot of free time, but that free time I do
spend, you know, with the boys, whether weíre going to movies or going
to dinner, or sometimes, you know, with our crew because weíre such a
tight-knit family that even though weíre together for 12, 13, 14 hours a
day, theyíre also the people that you want to go laugh with after work
and dish, and you know, sort of giggle about the good and bad times.
And here, wherever we go, people - itís really funny, because they may
not know our real names, but they - everywhere I go in Atlanta, somebody
is yelling out, ďHey, Doc,Ē which always makes me giggle.
And I love it, you know, for ďRescue MeĒ, people always yelled out
ďCrazy Sheila,Ē right? And here, itís ďHey, Doc.Ē And you know, I even
went on vacation over the Fourth and I was in Savannah, and, you know,
itís something that really warms my heart, because it just - whether or
not people are connecting with the story lines or connecting with a
certain character, I love that people are comfortable enough to come up
and, you know, talk to me, and ask me questions about who Iím going to
end up with.
And all of our fans, no matter how old or young, men or women, everyone
just is always really very elated. Either - they - I love that people
want to ask questions. It isnít always, like, will you sign this, or you
know, can we take a picture, people want to talk.
And, theyíre, and you know, theyíre always like, Iím sorry, you know, I
donítí mean to bother you, and weíre all like, Oh my God, youíre not
bothering us. This is a joy, you know, because then you - itís easy to
forget sometimes that the show is airing because weíre in Atlanta.
Weíre not in New York or L.A. where youíre doing more press because
thatís where the press, you know, a lot of the press is. And so it
actually sort of feeds our egos, obviously, but it also feeds the, you
know, us running back to work and wanting to continue telling good
Lisa Steinberg: Well thank you so much again, Callie, for speaking with
us this afternoon. Again, itís like a dream come true. I really
appreciate it. I love your work.
Callie Thorne: Lisa, youíre so kind. I love talking with you.
Operator: Your next question comes from (Danielle Fortinado), ďLA
Danielle Fortinado: Hi, Callie...
Callie Thorne: How are you?
Danielle Fortinado: Good, thank you. So, I want to talk a little bit
about the summer finale specifically, if you can. Obviously, thereís so
many different things that are pulling at Daniís focus right now, from
family to (unintelligible) addiction, now this new trouble with her job.
Can you talk a little bit about the mindset - her mindset in the
beginning of the episode and kind of where her focus really is
throughout the episode?
Callie Thorne: Well, I - certainly in regards to the episode that aired
last night, I think that, you know, itís a perfect lead in to this
heightened state of her life and everybodyís life because of T.K. being,
you know, the main connection between our main characters.
And when he struggles, we all struggle. And I think because Dani is in
vulnerable state in her own personal life, with, you know, whatís going
on with her kids, and (Ray Jay) specifically and the trouble that he is
most probably leading himself into.
And as a mother, Dani canít, as much as she wants to control it, she
canít. And she canít control her feelings. I mean she (unintelligible)
she made the sacrifice to let Matt go, but that doesnít mean that she
feels, you know, solid with herself. She feels like she did a solid, but
it leaves her in this very sort of wondrous question mark.
But I think, as is true in many other peopleís lives, it then becomes
easier for her to zone in on the work, to zone in on T.K. and not, you
know, turn away, not let things go, and, like, even though Matt and Nico
at first were not so sure about whether or not there was a real problem
with Terrence and a possible addiction, she was not going to let that
go, you know, she was continue, whether it was doing it on her own or
being able to convince them.
And that path that we see them all go on next week is - itís very all of
a sudden life goes into fast forward, and everyoneís in place where
youíve got to make a choice. And whether or not she is trying to help
T.K. make the right choice in regards to himself and being honest with
himself, itís hard for her to do that on her own, but it makes it easier
to help someone else see the light.
And it also helps to drive others around her and it was fun, you know,
even though we were shooting some really heavy stuff, those scenes were
really - we were also shooting at a very fast pace because there were a
lot of locations and, you know, youíve got to make your days, and so it
was a really crazy, you know, couple of weeks, but an enormous amount of
fun because everybodyís separate story lines are so rich that we all
were kind of like chomping at the bit, you know. And that was pretty
Danielle Fortinado: Okay. And how close will she get with Nico before
the end of the little finale, the little break?
Callie Thorne: I donít know how to answer it without getting in trouble.
I think that itís sort of a blindside. She gets a little blindsided
because itís like all of a sudden, how she has been trying to not deny
her personal, but, like I said, itís sort of much easier for her to head
in the work mode.
I think that certainly with Nico, because they are so focused on T.K.,
that the fact that anything personal pops us is very, I mean, itís sort
of mysterious and - in itself as a surprise. And also because we know so
little about Nico as a man and as Dani gets a little bit closer to the
inner Nico, I think that itís perfect for the audiences to also get into
the inner Nico.
Danielle Fortinado: Okay. Great. All right, well thank you so much.
Iím looking forward to seeing it next week.
Callie Thorne: Thank you.
Amanda Altschuler: Just a reminder, please ask one question at a time.
That way we have time to get to everybody. Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from (Crystal Bell) (unintelligible).
Callie Thorne: Hi, (Crystal).
Crystal Bell: Hi, Callie, how are you?
Callie Thorne: Iím very well, thank you.
Crystal Bell: So I have to just make a quick comment. I feel like Dani
is ultimately going to be like Mary Louise Parkerís character from
ďWeedsĒ in the rest of the season, I had that feeling watching last
weekís episode, and I was like, oh, thatís what (Rayjay)ís going to do.
Callie Thorne: I havenít, because, you know, of our schedule here, I
havenít been able to keep up in the season of ďWeeds,Ē but anything that
could be compared to anything Mary Louise Parker does, even if itís just
the story line, is a jackpot. Thatís very kind.
Crystal Bell: So I want to know, because, and you talked about it a
little bit before in that last question, but for you personally, you
know, sizing up Matt and Nico, because the fans are very divided.
Theyíre either, you know...
Callie Thorne: I know...
Crystal Bell: Team Matt, like heís her true love, or now youíre
getting a lot of fans who are like, no, Iím Team Nico because thatís
what works right now, you know, theyíre really sort of working together.
Callie Thorne: I know. I love it, I love it, I love it, because you
know, that is - that idea of Matt being this very, you know, he is the
solid good man do right, and you know, heís like a hug, do you know what
I mean? Heís like a delicious, romantic hug, and then Nico is the bad
boy that you canít figure out and all you want to do is figure him out,
which of course, you know, is just as sexy as, you know the good guy.
And I was very excited that the writers leaned a little bit more towards
the triangle because I want to know, as Callie, I want to know where, or
you know, what sheís going to do and how sheís going to do it. And so if
itís that much more exciting itís making me as an actress be like, come
on guys, give me a little hint, because sometimes you donít want to know
the end result as an actress, and there are times when youíre just a fan
And you want to know, but Iíve been waiting a little bit for it to reach
this point in the show...
Crystal Bell: Yes...
Callie Thorne: And so I love that thereís any kind of Team Matt, Team
Nico, I think that itís crazy and exciting.
Crystal Bell: Definitely. Do you swing one way or the other, or are
you just as sort of split as the fans?
Callie Thorne: Iím split as a fan because it literally happens scene to
scene. Like if Iím a scene with Marc Blucas, Iím like, oh, sheís got to
end up with Matt, she has to. And then if Iím doing a scene with Scott
Cohen, Iím like, always thinking, oh, no, no, no, sheís got to be with
the guy that, you know, sheís got to try and put together like a puzzle.
Crystal Bell: Yes, Iím sure Scott and Marc have like a pool going.
Callie Thorne: I think that they do, and I think that they really dig
the idea that fans are divided. And we joke a lot about it on set, you
know, thereís a lot of teasing. Thereís a lot of joking. Even with the
crew, and, you know, it helps to make the day more fun for sure.
Crystal Bell: Definitely, well, Iím going to get my Team Matt shirt
ready for next week.
Callie Thorne: I love it.
Crystal Bell: But thank you so much, Callie.
Callie Thorne: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from (Christine Ilene)
Callie Thorne: Hello, (Christine).
Christine Ilene: Hi, Callie, nice to speak with you today.
Callie Thorne: Nice to speak with you.
Christine Ilene: This midseason finale is really unbelievable
dramatic, and I was just wondering, did you have any parts in it that
you - youíre favorite, without giving too much away, and how is it
working with the fish?
Callie Thorne: Little Dude, as I call him. I think that, you know, any
of the stuff that we ever shot with Little Dude was always, I think - I
sort of treated him as the third man in my life, which made those scenes
that much more fun to play.
And, yes, the midseason finale, in regards to how ďNecessary Roughness,Ē
you know, we think of it as a drama with a, you know, really good dose
of comedy, but, this place that T.K. and Dani and Matt and Nico all are
sort of forced into, this big fork in the road that is about choice.
And sort of not being able to figure out if thereís a right or a wrong.
And I really - I think we all were in this place was - we were all very
excited to be and to have the show take this particular tone for a
finale, and that, you know, because we - the idea that we want to
audience to try and figure out along with us was part of our - part of
And, because whether or not something ends with a gunshot or, you know,
with this gigantic, heightened level of fear, excitement, love, whatever
it is, we wanted to keep everything really grounded in reality and not
have it necessarily be something soap operaish, but much more developed
in the big choices in life, the game changers.
Christine Ilene: Thank you so much.
Callie Thorne: Thank you.
Operator: Your next question comes from (Tina Charles) (unintelligible).
Callie Thorne: Hello, (Tina).
Tina Charles: Hi, how are you?
Callie Thorne: Iím very well thank you, how are you?
Tina Charles: Iím great, thanks. Can you just talk about one of my
favorite aspects of the show is the Dani relationship with T.K. Can you
talk about how - why that pairing is so successful as, you know,
therapist and client, and how hard has it been for Dani to see whatís
been going on with T.K. lately?
Callie Thorne: I think that, well the relationship between T.K. and Dani
is - because it is the central thing, that from the beginning of the
show, from the pilot, T.K. is the character that really connects to
You know, sometimes people say that my character is who connects
everybody within our world, but more often, I feel like itís T.K. and,
because he holds so much an amazing spot in her heart, I think that,
especially when we get to shoot those scenes, Mehcad and I, we also have
a very different and separate and special friendship I think that was
developed in the pilot.
He and I really got on from the get-go and we have the same drive to
tell a good story within the show, but we laugh and laugh and laugh. We
have such the same sense of humor and he can break me in a scene faster
than most people I know.
I try to pride myself on no matter whatís going on, Iím not breaking,
but, man, Mehcad will come up with the craziest improvs, and because -
and it doesnít matter, like sometimes Iíll just have to walk off camera,
Iíll have to walk off set and go compose myself, but because of that
chemistry that we have as friends, I think that it comes across on
And whether itís you know, a parental connection that Dani has with him,
or whether it is just, it canít be categorized because itís - heís never
met a woman like Dani and sheís never met a man like him, and so I think
that there is this real sense of trust and there is a real sense of
being -- well, previous to where we find ourselves now, there has always
been a place where they can let, and especially T.K., let his defense
And, but where we find ourselves now is this moment in time where
parents might be going backwards, and so Dani trying to zone back into
that place that they had gotten to, is, I think, very complex and
interesting, without giving anything away.
Tina Charles: Great, thank you.
Callie Thorne: Thank you.
Amanda Altschuler: Operator, we have time for just one more question.
Operator: Your last question comes from (Monique Jones) (unintelligible)
Callie Thorne: Hello, (Monique).
Monique Jones: Hi, how are you?
Callie Thorne: Iím very well, thank you. How are you?
Monique Jones: Iím good. My question is, seeing how your character is
a therapist, I was just wondering how much research does it take to, I
guess, get into the mind of a therapist?
Callie Thorne: Iím very lucky in that because the role is based on a
real woman, that, you know, her life story, and how she got this
particular point in her life. I have always had her, since we made the
pilot, Iíve always had her to turn to in regards to things that, you
know, could get confusing to me, whether it was about a particular issue
or disorder, or how you handle yourself within sessions.
And, but also, you know I have had a lot therapy experience in my life
myself. I love therapy. Iíve been going to therapy forever, and so I
think that because I am so fascinated myself with the idea of always
trying to figure yourself out and always trying to be honest with
yourself, that you can make, you know, strong choices in your life, then
it makes me that much more interested in the other side of it.
And, so, there is - I am always learning. I am always - even if itís
just me doing my own research. And Iíve not been able to play a role
like that before, and so, you know, but the main point being that I have
Dr. Donna to turn to in times of great confusion or question. And for
that I am blessed.
Monique Jones: Thank you.
Callie Thorne: Hello?
Operator: She said ďThank you.Ē
Callie Thorne: Hello? Hello?
Callie Thorne: Oh, I thought I lost you guys.
Operator: She said ďThank you.Ē
Callie Thorne: Oh, okay.
Amanda Altschuler: Great, we want to thank Callie for her time today. As
a reminder the summer finale of ďNecessary RoughnessĒ will air
Wednesday, August 29, 10:00, 9:00 Central on USA. A transcript will be
made available to you within 48 hours after this call. Thank you for
Callie Thorne: Thank you.
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