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Suzanne
Interview with Robin Lord Taylor of "Gotham" on
FOX 9/18/15
Robin was very kind and sweet on the call. He seems
nothing like his character (well, of course, he's a fabulous
actor). He took the time to ask us all how we were doing and
told us to have a great day. I love the show, so it was a
real treat to speak with him again.
Final Transcript
FBC Publicity: Gotham
September 18, 2015/10:00 a.m. PDT
SPEAKERS
Laurence Glasscock
Robin Lord Taylor
PRESENTATION
Moderator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by,
and welcome to the Gotham conference call. At this time all
participants are in a listen-only mode, and later we will
conduct a question and answer session and instructions will
be given at that time. (Operator instructions.) As a
reminder, this conference is being recorded.
I would now like to turn the conference over to our host,
Laurence Glasscock. Please go ahead.
Laurence: Hi, everyone. Thank you so much for joining the
call this morning and afternoon. We’re so excited to have
Robin Lord Taylor from Gotham on the phone, so at this time
I will turn the call over to him.
Robin: Awesome. Hi, everybody. Hello.
Moderator: And it will be just a moment for our first
question. We will go to the line of Jamie Ruby with SciFi
Vision. Go ahead.
Jamie: Hi, it’s great to talk to you again. Thanks for doing
the call.
Robin: Of course. My pleasure.
Jamie: I’m very much loving the season. I’ve seen the first
two episodes. Can you talk about, though, how Oswald’s
working with Gordon or helping each other at the moment? How
long do you think that can last? I assume at some point,
Gordon, I don’t know, is he going to take the moral high
ground or are they going to keep giving each other help?
Robin: Well, I think part of Gordon’s growth and his
transformation as a character is basically him reconciling
himself with the fact that he has to align himself with
certain not savory players in Gotham City in order to get
what he wants done. So yes, I think this could essentially
go on indefinitely because he is coming to realize that he
needs Penguin, and Penguin has also realized back in the
first season that he needed Gordon as well in order to get
what he wants done.
The interesting change that’s happening, though, is that in
the first season they were coming at each other with—Penguin
was looking at Gordon as someone that he could actually
trust and could be an actual friend for him. But now, after
what happened in the finale of the first season when Gordon
basically left him to die in the hospital, the relationship
is much more strained. And again, they do need each other.
They need to come to each other to get things done, but it’s
now from a very wary—they’re both very wary of each other at
this point. It’s a really interesting development between
the two characters.
Jamie: Great. And then as a follow-up, right now he’s on top.
Can you talk about the path he’s on this year?
Robin: Yes. Well, yes, he set out to achieve something in the
first season and he did it, he succeeded. He became his own
boss, his own man, and basically he proclaimed himself the
king of Gotham. As anything in Gotham City, though, nothing
is easy, and now that he has achieved what he wants he’s
faced with a whole new set of issues in terms of how to
maintain that, and how to stay on the top. I don’t know if
he’s exactly prepared for that, and this whole season it’s
going to be about challenging his intellect, basically
everything he has in order to stay the king of Gotham.
Jamie: Great. Thank you so much.
Robin: Thank you.
Moderator: We’ll now go to the line of Sonya Field at
Hypable.com. Go ahead. Go ahead. Sonya, are you there?
Sonya: Hi, can you hear me?
Moderator: Yes, go ahead.
Sonya: Okay, hi. Sorry. Hi, Robin.
Robin: Hi, what’s up?
Sonya: So this year, Oswald doesn’t really have any true
allies. He has Butch, who’s kind of brainwashed, and Selena,
who really does her own thing. Do you think that being on
his own makes Oswald stronger or weaker?
Robin: I think, essentially, he’s very used to being on his
own. He’s never trusted anyone implicitly. It’s always been
him against the world. Again, the only person he trusts is
his dear mother.
But I do think that part of his lesson that he learns, being
the king of Gotham now, is he’s going to learn that he does
need people. He’s somewhat isolated, like you said, and I do
actually believe that that does weaken him. He is going to
have to learn how to invite people in and rely on them to a
certain extent. That’s part of his transformation this year,
I think.
Sonya: Cool. And speaking about Selena, can you talk about
what their partnership is going to be like going forward?
Robin: Like you said, Selena does her own thing, and she
slips in and out and she is essentially—what I love about
her character is that she, again, very similar to Penguin,
she has no real allies except for maybe Bruce Wayne. And I
think Oswald is very intrigued to have her around. She
brings a new energy. He also enjoys the fact that she has
that ability to infiltrate all sorts of groups, and I think
he really wants to use that to his own advantage. Obviously
we’ll see how much Selena agrees with that or is down with
that, but I think that’s where Oswald is coming from.
Sonya: Awesome. Thanks so much.
Robin: Thank you.
Moderator: We will now go to the line of Kirsten Acuna with
The Business Insider.
Kirsten: Hi, Robin. Great to speak with you today.
Robin: Likewise. How are you?
Kirsten: I’m doing great.
Robin: Great.
Kirsten: I’m wondering [indiscernible] Season 2, your
character is slowly descending into this iconic role of the
Penguin even more. I’m wondering, what are you looking at
for inspiration? There’s plenty of source material from the
comics, the video games, the movies. So what are you looking
at to inform how you just take on this character even more,
and also how do you continue to just make this character
your own?
Robin: Oh, man. Well, in terms of inspiration, we’re all very
blessed on the show to have 77 years’ worth of material to
draw upon. The comics have been incredibly helpful for all
of us, just to understand these characters and where they’re
coming from. And so yes, that’s been a huge influence on me.
And then also, in terms of performance, I look to my acting
idols, the people I grew up watching, such as John Malkovich
and Philip Seymour Hoffman, both of whom really, in terms of
their acting style and how they approach characters that
have a dark aide and yet finding the sympathy within those
characters. That’s definitely something that has influenced
me.
But yes, in terms of really making the character my own, I
don’t know. I give all credit to Bruno Heller. He has
created such a clear vision for Oswald and where he’s coming
from and what drives him that, honestly, I just feel like
the vessel. I feel like I’m just carrying his words onward,
and yes. I just trust in him. I feel if I really think too
hard about it, then it won’t be as authentic. Yes. I don’t
know, I give it to Bruno Heller.
Kirsten: Yes. Are there any comics in particular that are
your favorite that stand out for Oswald?
Robin: Well, definitely, the one that first comes to mind
that was actually sent to me by Geoff Jones, head of DC, was
Penguin: Pain and Prejudice, which really delves into
Oswald’s past, and also, it’s him as an adult looking back
on his life, but also, you just really see how low, how
evil, how truly manipulative and twisted that he becomes in
the future. So that definitely informs my approach to the
character and where he eventually ends up years down the
line.
Kirsten: Yes. Well, you’ve been doing a wonderful job with
the character, so keep it up. Definitely one of—
Robin: Thank you so much. That’s so sweet. Oh, amazing. Thank
you.
Moderator: We will now go to the line of Andy Behbakht with
TVMind. Go ahead.
Andy: Hi, Robin. How are you doing today?
Robin: Real good. How are you, And?
And I’m doing well. I wanted to first ask you about how’s
Oswald’s mother going to be reacting to Oswald’s new role
now in Gotham this year. I know she’s very supportive of him
and all that, but is it going to overwhelm her to see the
things that her son is doing?
Robin: I think very much so. There was the moment in the
first season where Maroni basically told her what Oswald was
doing and how he—the violence and the murder and all of the
darkness inside of him. But I think, like many parents,
they’re incapable of seeing the dark stuff.
It’s almost like she covers her eyes and closes her ears and
out of sight, out of mind. She only wants to see what she
believes that he is, which is a good person. But that will
definitely be tested in this season. She will be confronted
with, really, how dark he is, but also with the sympathy in
that I think she believes that the choices he makes and has
made are choices that he had to in order to survive.
Andy: And then we saw in the season finale that Butch, he’s
starting to snap out of the mind control that
[indiscernible] has caused him, and so on, and yet Oswald is
still having him by his side. Does Oswald completely trust
in Butch being by his side, or does he have that suspicion
of that he could still snap again because he was first loyal
to Fish Mooney?
Robin: I think it may be a mistake that Oswald makes, but he
really does trust in the brainwashing. He trusts in Victor
Zsasz and his amazing handiwork in terms of getting people
to do his bidding, and we’ll see how that plays out. I think
he relies on Butch. He needs someone like Butch to galvanize
all of the players in Gotham City to be behind Oswald and to
follow Oswald as we go forward, now that Falcone and Maroni
are out of the picture. But yes, we’ll definitely see if
that’s the smart choice or not.
Andy: Well, thank you so much and keep up the great work you
do as the Penguin.
Robin: Dude, thank you so much. Have a wonderful day.
Moderator: We will now go to the line of Steve Gidlow with
HNGN.com. Go ahead.
Steve: Hi, Robin, how’s it going?
Robin: Wonderful, how are you?
Steve: I’m well, thank you very much. I’m just wondering, as
a viewer, given this is the rise of the villains, who are
you enjoying watching rise as far as your villainous
cohorts?
Robin: Oh, my main man, Cory Michael Smith as Edward Nygma. I
just love what they did with the character in the first
season in that it was very, very slow, a very slow burn, and
we got to see the seeds of madness that are being planted
there, and that just really comes to the forefront in Season
2, and I’m just thrilled. I find Cory to be a very inspiring
person to work with, and I’m just thrilled just to see him
embrace the character and watch the character flourish. Yes,
that’s definitely the one that I’m most excited for.
Steve: Is there anyone else that is going to thrill us beyond
belief?
Robin: Well, I think, definitely what you’re going to see
with Jerome, who is played by Cameron Monaghan, be the
Joker. I think everyone is going to be thrilled, including
myself, to see how that progresses.
Steve: Awesome. Thanks so much.
Robin: Thank you, man.
Moderator: We will now go to the line of Suzanne Lanoue with
The TVMegaSite. Go ahead.
Suzanne: Hi, good morning.
Robin: Good morning. How are you?
Suzanne: Pretty good. I think I read that you’re in
Cincinnati this weekend?
Robin: I am, yes. I’m going out tomorrow morning.
Suzanne: Wow, fun.
Robin: Yes.
Suzanne: You could go to White Castle there.
Robin: Yes, totally. I could go to White Castle. I’m excited.
Apparently chili is very big in Cincinnati.
Suzanne: Yes, yes, it is. So when they transform you into
Oswald they change your nose and your hair and everything.
So do people recognize you as Oswald when you’re out in the
real world or does that allow you a certain amount of
anonymity?
Robin: People pretty much recognize me out in the world. With
this blue-black hair, I guess it’s very recognizable. But
it’s always so funny because people will come up and they’ll
be like, “Are you?” and then I’ll be like, “Yes, I am,” and
then they’ll be like, “Wow, I wasn’t sure, but then once you
opened your mouth and you talked I was like ‘yes, it is
him.’” Apparently there’s something very distinguishing
about my voice as well, but you know.
Suzanne: Yes, it is.
Robin: Yes, it is.
Suzanne: All right, thanks a lot. I really love the show.
Robin: Oh, thank you so much. Have a wonderful day.
Moderator: We will now go to the line of Ian Pitts with
Newsarama. Go ahead.
Ian: Hi, Robin. How are you doing, man?
Robin: I’m doing really well. How are you?
Ian: I’m doing pretty good, pretty good.
Robin: Great.
Ian: So this is the second season, and have you gotten used
to playing Oswald yet? Do you still keep the bottle cap in
your shoe to help you with your limp, or is it just more
natural now? Are things coming more natural for you?
Robin: It’s definitely coming more naturally. The really
fascinating thing, I’ve never been a series regular on a
show before, and then also, having all of this time to play
this character and then to create a relationship with the
writers of the show, the most amazing thing is that now,
it’s almost a symbiotic relationship between us. They have
my interpretation of Oswald in their minds, so when they
write the scenes I can tell that they’re writing it for me
and for, like I said, my characterization of Oswald.
And so it becomes a lot more easy. The words just fly, and
it’s almost effortless, in a way. But I should say, there
was a bottle cap in my shoe, but now it’s been downgraded to
two quarters stacked on top of each other, because the
bottle cap was becoming a lot to deal with.
Ian: Are we going to see any more physical transformations on
your side, top hat, monocle, this season?
Robin: I have no idea. I anticipate there will be development
in that way, but yes, I’m really excited about that, too,
because in terms of the monocle, if you look at the comics,
it’s an actual physical injury that he receives. I don’t
know if we’re approaching that this season. I really only
know a couple episodes in advance before we start shooting,
but it’s something that I would love just to keep exploring,
and it really helps to flesh out the character.
Ian: All right. Thanks, man.
Robin: Awesome, thank you.
Moderator: We will now go to the line of Collin MacGregor
with TVJunkies.com.
Collin: Hi, Robin. Thanks for talking to us today.
Robin: Oh, it’s my pleasure, man.
Collin: So I was wondering, with Penguin now declared himself
the king of Gotham, are we going to start seeing him rise to
that social status that he had in the comics where he’s
interacting both out of the underworld and in the
underworld, where both sides are recognizing him as a big
player?
Robin: Oh, definitely. And one of the things I’m most excited
about in this season is his continuing relationship with Jim
Gordon. Now Jim really has to face the monster that he had a
hand in creating, and Jim is coming to realize that he needs
Oswald as much as Oswald needs Jim, and to see the tension
between the two of them, I think, is really exciting.
And also, for Oswald, it’s very satisfying to watch Jim just
have to come to him, have to approach him to help Jim
further this plans to make Gotham City a better place.
Oswald just loves the fact that he has power now, that Jim
needs on his side.
Collin:And I was also wondering, so we’ve had a brief
interaction between Cobblepot and Nygma in Season 1. The
Riddler and Penguin have always had a really interesting
relationship in the comics. I was wondering, in Season 2,
are we going to see more of that develop with the
relationship between him and Nygma?
Robin: Oh, absolutely, and it’s really, really exciting. It’s
one of my most favorite things about this season is their
relationship and how the two play-off of each other.
Collin: All right, well, thank you so much.
Robin: It was my pleasure, man.
Moderator: We will go to the line of Greg Staffa with Your
Entertainment. Go ahead.
Greg: Thanks for taking our questions today. After screening
the first two episodes, it almost makes Season 1 villains
look like a bunch of schoolyard bullies, because this season
you guys really elevated it. My question is you are a very
personal person, but now that your rise to fame has made you
a front-name star, everyone associates you now with your
character. If you Google you, that’s what comes up.
Everything is about Gotham, and my question is, to you, now
with your rise of fame, who is it that you see yourself as,
if you were to describe yourself? And secondly, the casting
on this show is brilliant. If you were to cast someone on
this show, who would you like to see enter the world of
Gotham?
Robin: Oh, man. Oh, jeez. Well, nothing has changed in terms
of, really, how I see myself. I just see myself as a working
actor in New York City, which ultimately is all I ever
wanted. The same stuff, all of that, it’s intimidating and a
little terrifying to me, and also, the way I look at it is I
can’t really think about it because ultimately it goes
against what us as actors are trying to achieve, which is
you’re given a role and you want to disappear into the role.
You don’t want people to see the person behind it, and I
think fame works against that, in a way. So in terms of
addressing that, I really try and put it out of my mind, and
yes, I just approach my life like I always do, and now I
have health insurance.
And then in terms of someone coming into the world, I had
the immense pleasure of meeting Paul Reubens the other day,
and I’ve been a lifelong Peewee Herman fan and Paul Reubens
fan, and I’m sure, as you know, he played Oswald’s father in
Batman Returns. I would just love it if we could get him on,
if we could establish Oswald’s parents and have it be Paul
Reubens. That would be incredible.
Greg: Thank you, and again, the first episodes are amazing.
Robin: Thank you so much, man.
Moderator: We will now go to the line of K.M. Cone with
CultureMass.com. Go ahead.
K.M.: Hi, Robin. Thanks so much for answering our questions
today.
Robin: It’s my pleasure.
K.M.: I just want to say Penguin is my favorite character on
the show. I love how complex he is, and I really like how
you interact with the fans. So what I wanted to know, with
the cast watching live and tweeting, how does the immediate
feedback and interaction with fans affect the show or your
performance?
Robin: I think we’re all really good about separating the
two. The interaction with fans is an amazing thing. I never
thought I would have any fans, and so wrapping my brain
around that, it’s been a lot to deal with, but it’s been
incredible.
But yes, in terms of their feedback, it’s always welcome,
and I think we all view it as, whether it’s good or bad, the
fact that we have people talking is an amazing gift. That’s
what we all set out to do is create art so that people can
digest it and talk about it and hash it out between each
other and with us. I think that’s an amazing gift.
But also, I will have to say that I go back and forth on the
live tweeting thing because part of me really, really
appreciates it and really loves that interaction, but the
other part of me, I feel like we’re—it’s really hard to
really watch the show and watch all of the amazing work that
goes into every episode, from our incredibly talented crew,
our amazing DPs, our amazing directors, and then of course
our amazing cast. It’s really hard, though, when you’re live
tweeting because your attention is split. Do you know what I
mean?
And so I think all of us also are reconciling that and try
to figure out how to find a healthy balance, between we
really, ultimately, want people just to watch the show and
be absorbed in the show, not necessarily be absorbed in my
Twitter feed or what I think of any particular moment.
K.M.: Right.
Robin: I would argue I think we would all just like people to
embrace the show and watch it in the most immersive way
possible. So it’s an interesting dynamic. We’re all trying
to figure out that balance, and I think not just our cast
but every cast, every actor, it’s the new paradigm. How do
we embrace it, and yet how do we still encourage people to
just enjoy the show and watch the show as intently as they
can?
K.M.: Right. Well, those of us who are big fans, we’ll
definitely be re-watching the episodes.
Robin: Fabulous. Awesome. That’s so great to hear.
Moderator: We will now go to the line of Brianna Gerle, Three
If By Space. Please go ahead.
Brianna: Hi, Robin. Thank you so much for talking with us
today.
Robin: My pleasure.
Brianna: I was just wondering who got you started in comic
books and what was your first interaction with a comic book,
maybe as a young boy or maybe reading as the Penguin or
something like that?
Robin: I think it was third grade. A family moved in next
door, and it was Brian Cobb, who had a whole collection, and
we immediately bonded over our shared love of G.I. Joe, and
then through that he really introduced me into the comics. I
wasn’t as much of an aficionado as he was, but he was
definitely the one who opened up this whole world for me, so
big shout-out to Brian Cobb.
Brianna: And second, you’re doing a Comic-Con circuit now.
Did you ever see yourself doing Comic-Cons, and what is that
like for you?
Robin: I’ve never thought, and that’s the funny thing was
when I got the job, it wasn’t until months, months later
when someone, I think it was probably one of my
representatives, was like, oh, by the way, there’s this
whole other world out there. I was like, I didn’t even think
about it. I was like, cool, I got a job, amazing.
And then with this job, like I said this whole world opened
up and it’s been fantastic, I have to say. The immediate
interaction with the fans, getting to meet people face to
face, getting to talk to people, it’s just been just an
amazing experience, and in a way I wish—and it’s becoming
more of this, but I wish all actors had that opportunity. I
wish all actors had that ability to be in a show that is
embraced by such an amazingly articulate, devoted fan base
as the sci-fi world has. And yes, it’s been wonderful.
Brianna: Awesome. Well, we love having you go to Comic-Cons,
so thank you so much.
Robin: Oh, thank you. Have a wonderful day.
Brianna: You, too.
Laurence: Thank you so much, everyone, for joining the
conference call today. As a reminder, Gotham Season 2
premieres on Monday, September 21st, on Fox. Have a great
rest of your day.
Robin: Thanks, everybody.
Moderator: Ladies and gentlemen, this conference will be
available for replay after 11:30 a.m. today through 11:59
p.m. on September 25th. That does conclude our
conference for today. Thank you for your participation and
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