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Interview with Julia Stiles "Blue" and "Paloma" on WIGS 3/15/13

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FBC PUBLICITY: The WIGS Conference Call
March 15, 2013/9:30 PDT

PRESENTATION

Moderator: Welcome to The WIGS Conference Call. At this time all participants are in listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. I would like to remind you that this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Michelle Marron. Also, this conference is on behalf of Blue.

Michelle: Hi, everybody; thank you again for taking part in the conference call this morning with Julia on behalf of Series Blue and Paloma on WIGS the number one channel for scripted drama on YouTube. As you know, Season II of Blue, which stars Julia as a single mother trying to protect her son from the consequences of a secret career as an upscale escort, premiered first thing this morning. New episodes are going to be made available on the channel the next three consecutive Fridays.

In addition to Blue, Julia will be able to answer questions about Paloma, which is a new four episode series that she wrote and directed, which will premiere later this spring. It stars Grace Gummer as a young woman dealing with the unpredictability of a relationship both in romance and the workplace. All episodes for the series can be found at YouTube.com/WIGS.

Before we turn it over to Julia, the Moderator (Donna) is going to explain how you guys can get in to the queue to ask your questions, and then weíll jump right in.

Moderator: We do have a question that is coming from the line of Jamie Ruby from Scifivision.com.

Jamie: Thanks for doing the call.

Julia: Yeah, my pleasure. Thank you for joining me.

Jamie: So what made you decide to do a web series in the first place?

Julia: You know what, it was as simple as wanting to work with Rodrigo Garcia, and I really love the way he wrote. He approached me about doing Blue I guess a little over more than a year ago. At first I was a little bit reluctant about the idea of a web series only because I didnít know what to expect, and I didnít know really how the programming on YouTube would develop, but I was intrigued also by the idea because I thought this is kind of the wave of the future and the way that people watch shows more and more, you know on their devices and on the computer.

But what really sold me was the first scene of the first episode in Season 1. It was just such a great premise and setup for a show, which is that this girl leading a double life is going to be constantly dealing with how to manage that and how to control it and that the two worlds are going to collide. In Season 1 she is with a client and as things get hot and heavy she realizes that he recognizes her from high school. I just thought that the idea that sheís trying to keep something so secretiveóa character thatís living with a huge secret to me that was worth exploring. Then I sort of looked at the idea of doing a web series differently, which is that I do get a lot of creative freedom that you sometimes donít get when thereís a lot more money involved or if youíre working with a movie studio or a network.

Jamie: Definitely. Can you really quick though tell us a bit too about Paloma since we donít really know much about that?

Julia: Sure. Itís four episodes and itís basically a rumination on love and how delicate love is. Itís a year in a couplesí relationship and how like the presence of a third person can destroy that relationship even if thereís no infidelity or foul play. Itís just like the idea of this girl being attracted to somebody else and a lot of suspicion and jealousy arises. But itís about a young woman who works in an art gallery, and she has a very flirtatious relationship with her boss that could help advance her career, and that ends up confusing her and also just destroying this loving relationship that she had with her boyfriend.

Jamie: Great. Canít wait and Iím loving Blue so far.

Julia: Thank you.

Moderator: We do have a question coming from the line of Karen Benardello from Yahoo Voices.

Karen: Julia, I just wanted to ask youóyou mentioned earlier about having differences on the set of Blue because it is a web seriesóhow do you feel that the overall filming practice for Blue and Paloma as well since theyíre both web series do they differ at all from the films on the other network television shows that you have done either creatively or technically?

Julia: Well, I think that the way that viewers watch them is different but day to day I felt like I was on a set of a TV show. The turnaround is faster so whereas in movies and with television shows the amount of time it takes to get something developed and financed and the setup and shot and out in theatres or on TV is so long. I mean it can be years, and the exciting thing about what weíre doing with WIGS is that we can accomplish so much more so quickly. I wrote Paloma in September and itís already finished, and we shot Blue in November and December and itís already being aired.

In terms of technically itís really not that different. We use very professional crews and good production value and the cameras are pretty sophisticated, but creatively itís different. Itís just much more contained so really when we were making Blue it was really about my collaboration with Rodrigo and when I was making Paloma I would look to Jon Avnet, our producer and the creator of the channel, for guidance. He gave me so much freedom to just go with my vision, and thatís really different from I think when youíre working on a studio film. You have a lot of executives with opinions and usually valid opinions but because thereís so much more money at stake I think theyíre a lot more people to answer to. We didnít really have that with Blue or Paloma.

Karen: Okay. Thank you.

Moderator: Our next question will come from the line of Reg Seeton from Thedeadbolt.com.

Reg: Hi, Julia; thanks for taking the time today.

Julia: Hi, sure. The Deadbolt that sounds very New York; Iíll have to check it out.

Reg: Cool. How do you look at Blue; where Blue is at in her life in relation to what many women confront about the future?

Julia: Well, in some ways itís really normal, in some ways itís really extraordinary. Her work as a call girl is very extraordinary and not the norm, obviously, but her relationship with her son isóI think sheís confronting his adolescence in a way that is probably pretty normal for most mothers and sons. Heís starting to be interested in girls and sheís got to deal with answering all those questions about sex, and sheís also uncomfortable with it.

Also, sheís a young mother so it gets a little confusing between the two of them like what is the parent/child relationship, and sometimes they act like siblings, and who is actually parenting whom. Then another interesting thing that we approach in Season II is that because he started acting out in school they both have to go to therapy. I think probably a lot of mothers donít like the idea of their son having to be in therapy because the first person the therapist is going to look to blame is the mother, but also a mother like Blue who has such a web of lies that sheís tangled in the last place that she wants to be is in a therapistís office being asked questions about her past so it gets interesting.

Reg: And since you wrote and directed Paloma what place is it coming from in terms of what you know and what you wanted to say?

Julia: Well, itís funny because when Rodrigo was talking to me about a second season of Blue we were discussing story ideas. I said, ďWould you guys be open to the idea of me directing something?Ē and they said, ďYeah. Absolutely. Go write it.Ē And I thought should I write something really political and intellectual and meaningful, and instead IóI mean I think the story is meaningful but I decided to write something that I would want to watch, and I also wrote it very specifically for the channel. I donít know. I guess itís as simple as I wrote something that I would want to watch. It was very much on my mind like questioning the idea of love and romantic love and how delicate that can be, and then a lot of it was just from my imagination. I knew that I had the opportunity to direct and so I just let my imagination kind of run wild.

Reg: Well, great job with everything and good luck in the future.

Julia: Thank you.

Moderator: Our next question will come from the line of David Martindale from Hearst Newspapers.

David: Hi, Julia. Pardon my voice; I had tongue surgery less than two months ago; Iím making a recovery. Iím very self-conscious about it.

Julia: Oh, Iím very sorry to hear that.

David: Itís okay; Iím getting better.

Julia: Oh, well, I wouldnít have noticed but I hope you recover quickly.

David: Thank you. Technology has changed so much the way that we watch television and film the way itís delivered to viewers. I was curious how you watch your television and film. Do you watch it on your computer? Do you watch it on your phone? Do you find different ways to watch it, and has the making of this show, your involvement in it affected the way that you watch your film and television?

Julia: Well, Iím still trying to figure that out; meaning where and how to watch things. I actually cancelled my cable a few months ago because I thoughtówell, first of all I was traveling but I also thought like there are so many channels and so many things out there that I just felt like there was a lot of white noise. I thought I can just watch everything on the Internet, but I still like the bigger screen so I donít thinkóI donít know. Iím still trying to figure it out, and I still go to the movies. I like to sit in a dark theatre, and I enjoy the projection of film.

But as technology gets better and better I do think if you can really focus your attention on your computer screen thenóthatís really the big challenge to me but luckily what weíve been able to do with WIGS and Blue in particular is like you can watch one episode at a time or you can watch a bunch of episodes. If you watch them all the way through the story of Ö actually about the length of a movie, but weíve made sure that in telling the story that it holds for the hour and a half that is the first season.

David: All right. It is funny how screens are getting bigger and smaller but conventional sized ones seem to be disappearing I think. You know theyíre really huge or theyíre really small. Anyway, thank you so much.

Julia: Thank you.

Moderator: Our next question will come from the line of Gerry Miller from MNN.

Gerry: Hi, Julia. I found something online that shows you got involved in this kind of thing before. You did a spoof that was very cute on being a fashion designer for an environmental line; it was all a joke. Do you know what Iím talking about?

Julia:Yeah. Yeah. The Julia Stiles Styles yeah.

Gerry: What prompted that?

Julia: Actually, itís funny that you mentioned that because the same guy that I did that video with we made a movie called Itís a Disaster thatís available on-demand now and will be out in theatres in April. Also, America Ferrerra and David Cross are in it. What prompted that is they were friends of mine and we had been hanging out in L.A. while I was doing a play there, and I liked their comic work. They had done a movie called The Seamstress that I saw and a bunch of different videos, and oddly enough making spoofs about Google. We were just talking one day and they had ideas for these videos, and I thought why not itíd be fun.

Gerry: Are you actually eco conscious? The reason I ask is MNN is like we Ö so even though that was a spoof do you do anything thatís eco conscious in your life?

Julia: Yeah even simple things like trying to limit my use of plastic bags. If I can get rid of the number of plastic bags itís like a personal challenge for me not to use plastic or reuse Ö. I always get made when I go to the grocery store and I forgot my little canvas bag.

Gerry: Yeah. The trick is to put them all back in the car.

Julia: Oh, but I donít have a car see so I already have Ö.

Gerry: How do you get around L.A.?

Julia: No. I live in New York.

Gerry: Oh, you live in New York okay. Were all the shows shot there?

Julia: No. The show is shot in L.A.

Gerry: So you came out here for that.

Julia: Yeah. We shot it in like less than two months so I just come out for a short period of time.

Gerry: Ah, okay. I got you. Thanks.

Moderator: Our next question will come from the line of Traci Grant from Thestarscoop.com.

Traci: Hi, Julia; how are you?

Julia: Hi, good; how are you?

Traci: Good. I was hoping you could talk a little bit just about your reaction, what was going through your head when you found out Blue would be able to come back and that you guys would get to do more episodes? I know the viewers are really excited about it when we found out that series was coming back. How were you feeling about it and what were you thinking?

Julia: Oh I was really excited. It was really fun to talk to Rodrigo about story ideas, but then also one thing thatís really, really lovely about the WIG channel is itís like the first time I felt like Iím part of a community. A lot of times when you work on a movie or a TV show you get very, very close to the people that youíre working with, and then you may or may not keep in touch with them. But particularly because I got to work on Blue twice and then work on Paloma with the same crew and the same production office I feel like Iíve developed a real wonderful closeness with Rodrigo Garcia and Jon Avnet. They were wonderful mentors to me but also even just seeing the same crew members every day is really comforting and nice.

Traci: Definitely. Is there anything that you can share with us about some of the upcoming episodes? Any spoilers or things to get people excited?

Julia: Well, if you can imagine that Blue has to go to therapy I think thatís such aówhen Rodrigo suggested that we have Blue and her son see a therapist I thought that was really interesting because obviously most people choose to go to therapy, but because Blue is forced to go there the idea that somebody who is leading a double life and trying to keep so many secrets that she would be asked lots of questions about her past I think is a perfect setup for tension.

Traci: Okay. Thank you so much for your time today; I appreciate it.

Julia: Thank you.

Moderator: Our next question will come from the line of Stephanie Webber from Ology Media.

Stephanie: Hi, Julia; thank you so much. Congratulations on Silver Linings Playbook. You were great in it.

Julia: Oh, thank you so much. Iím glad you liked it.

Stephanie: Well, a lot of my questions have been asked but obviously WIGSóI liked how you said itís a community and itís definitely about like women empowerment, and a lot of roles that you seem to choose anything from even Ten Things I Hate about You theyíre definitely empowering. How do you go about choosing certain roles?

Julia: Itís interesting you say that because I donít think that Blue is very empowered but how do I choose? You know the platform doesnít really matter to me whether itís stage or theatre or even a web series. I just am more interested in like if itís a story that I would want to watch and if itís a character that I feel like I can contribute something to then thatís really what gets me. I mean it starts with good writing but I also like toóIíve learned more and more that especially with film and TV it has a lot to do with who the director is and if I like the directorís vision.

Stephanie: And obviously you started out a lot with acting but now that youíre directing Paloma what was that experience like and has that always been kind of a goal of yours? Would you like to direct more in the future whether it be YouTube, TV, or film?

Julia: Yes. I had directed a short film many years ago that Ö is in and I got hooked. I think the biggest trick is finding ways to practice, and I thought it was too big of a leap to jump in to like a feature and plus itís very hard to get feature films made. But when I started working with Jon and Rodrigo I thought this is a great platform and a great opportunity to try my hand at directing again.

I think yeah I just saw an opportunity there, and also itís a question of having a story that youíre interested in exploring for a good amount of time because directing is a real time commitment. But yeah I think itís one of the most joyous things that Iíve experience while I was making Paloma was watching something that was in your imagination when youíre sitting alone at a computer come to life, and then kind of take on a life of its own.

Stephanie: I just have to ask, I saw that you were casted as the lead in Bell Jar and it was funny how it was referenced in Ten Things I Hate about You and Silver Linings Playbook. Was that just coincidence or have you always been a fan of the book?

Julia: Well, the interesting thing is thatís sort of a hangover on IMDb. We havenít actually made a movie about The Bell Jar. I had been trying to set it up as a movie for a long time, and it wasnít really the right timing. Who knows? You never know - it could become something in the future, but yes I love that book, and I think that itís perfect for being visualized whether on film or maybe like a short series on TV.

Stephanie: Well, thank you so much and good luck. Iím excited to see the rest of Blue next season.

Julia: Thank you.

Moderator: Our next question will come from the line of Jerry Nunn with Windy City Times.

Jerry: Hi, Julia. I was wondering if you could talk about working with Jennifer Beals because I love her and have met her and sheís awesome.

Julia: Yeah sheís great. We didnít actually work together but I did meet her while we were on the set. Sheís really, really lovely but sheís in a different series on the WIGS channel called Lauren that should come out after Blue I think. Yeah I mean who doesnít like Jennifer Beals?

Jerry: Right. Also, I work for LGBT Publication; was there any kind of characters or angles to the story, things like that that you thought about?

Julia: For Blue having to do with Ö?

Jerry: Yeah the one that you had written or you know that.

Julia: Iím not sure I know what you mean.

Jerry: If there were any characters or anything for viewer that are gay or Ö?

Julia: A few of the scenes in Paloma thereís a lot of discussion about sex and particularly sex with women, like she and her boyfriend are discussing the idea of a threesome.

Jerry: Okay. All right. Cool. Iíll have to check that out. Awesome. Thanks so much.

Moderator: The next question will come from the line of Tim Nydell from Rockbottom.

Tim: Hey, whatís up, Julia? How you doing today?

Julia: Hi, good; how are you?

Tim: Iím doing great. I want to know more about Paloma. What else can you tell us about that and when can viewers see it?

Julia: I think theyíll be able to see it after Blue is finished airing. I think that might be the spring. Iím not really sure. What more can I tell you? Grace Gummer is in it. Garret Dillahunt plays her boss. Rhys Coiro plays her boyfriend. Forgive me if Iím repetitive because I have been talking about it all day long.

Itís about a year in a coupleís relationships, and how the presence of a third person can kind of destroy that relationship. Itís rumination on love and how delicate love can be. Grace Gummer plays a girl who works in an art gallery and she has a very flirtatious relationship with her boss, which could be beneficial to her career, and so not only is that confusing but it also disrupts her romantic relationship with her boyfriend. One of the lines in it is I donít think that people really commit to anything anymore so it was also just my exploration of the idea of how we have such growing Attention Deficit Disorder and not even just in terms of technology but that even like enters the way that we socialize and it can disrupt your romantic life; even like the idea of is monogamy even possible.

Moderator: Our next question comes from the line of Jane Gassociationer from Midlife Bloggers.

Jane: Hi, Julia; thanks for doing this. I have two questions. The first one is I found Julia Stiles Blog is that really you?

Julia: It was really me but right now I havenít updated it in forever, and I have to get on that. I sort of let it go for a second, but I shouldóit was really me but itís now beenóI donít know. I havenít checked it in a while itís a little outdated.

Jane: Itís wonderful.

Julia: Oh thank you.

Jane: My other question was you talked that you didnít think Blue is very empowered, and one of the things that struck me and it struck me particularly in the scene with her mother is how full of rage she is and really kind of shutdown. Can you talk about that a bit?

Julia: Thatís very well put. Sheís got a lot of issues. I think one of the things thatóitís hard not to judge it when Iím playing her but when you look from the outside you can so easily psychoanalyze Blue but I feel like itís unfortunately a very typical phenomena where she is very confused sexually, is kind of damaged, and she idolizes her father who is less than worthy of it and demonizes her mother unfortunately. So that first scene sheís really letting out all of her rage out on her mother.

Jane: Okay. Great.

Julia: I mean Ö person because sheóoh, okay. Sorry.

Jane: No go ahead.

Julia: Oh no. Itís just we pick up Season II right where we left off with Blue and at the end of Season I she is revisiting this very confused sexual relationship with an older man who probably abused her when she was younger, and right on the heels of that sheís traumatized but also as soon as you see her breakdown we see her having lunch with her mother, and itís like she takes it all out on her mother. Itís almost like sheís a child still.

Jane: Okay. That makes sense. I didnít follow that from the last scene to the beginning of the second season so that really makes sense where all that anger was coming from. Thank you. Good luck.

Julia: Thank you.

Moderator: Our next question will come from the line of Simon Applebaum from Tomorrow will be Televised.

Simon: In your dealings with Jon and Rodrigo what is everybody involved with WIGS ultimately would like to see this network do? Do they see it ultimately graduating to a television network? Do they see it being a major force with YouTube, particularly with smart TVs now being the way people are watching web content, and also, on a second level opening up opportunities acting, writing, directing for women and women of color?

Julia: Jon and Rodrigo can answer that better than I could, but I think itís still a work in progress, and so ideally they would like to be able to maintain the creative control over the work that we do and just have it seen by as many people as possible. We donít really know what that means, traditional TV, or just a bigger platform on YouTube, but itís still sort of a work in progress. A perfect example, theyíre creating more opportunities for women to write and direct because they created an opportunity to give me the opportunity to do that.

Simon: By the way, Julia, now that FOX is involved with WIGS in terms of helping market and promote and develop the channel has anybody from FOX approached you about maybe turning Blue or Paloma in to a series for FOX or FX or any of the other FOX owned networks?

Julia: Again, thatís a better question for Jon. Nobody has approached me just because itís still really new. We just launched it today. Weíre seeing where it goes, and I know that thereís the potential for FOX to do that. They already started airing some of the ads for Blue on some of their programming on TV. Theyíre really getting behind us in terms of the marketing of it all and weíll see where it goes.

Simon: Okay. Thanks very much, Julia. Good luck with both shows.

Julia: Thank you.

Moderator: Our next question will come from the line of Jamie Ruby from Scifivision.com.

Jamie: Hi, again. I apologize if this has been asked. I forgot to plug in my computer and it disconnected me. Is it hard for you to get in to the mindset of Blue?

Julia: Itís hard for me toóI wouldnít say hard because I just do it because I know thatís my job, but I feel like it definitely is difficult like day to day. When we were shooting I was in sort of a darker place, and that was the first time I had experienced that as an actress because the reality of some of the things that she experiences are pretty uncomfortable. As much as itís really intriguing to play a character that is covering up so many lies and kind of lying to herself itís not the most comfortable feeling every day. Itís pretty disturbing from the things that sheís experienced.

Also itís hard for me like now that Iím out of it and Iíve step out of the experience of shooting and being in that character I could easily psychoanalyze her but I didnít want to be judgmental while we were shooting. Thatís the most difficult thing. Like I wouldnít stop and say, ďWell, why is she doing this?Ē because that would be sort of paralyzing.

Jamie: Right. Thatís sort of the other thing I was going to ask. Is it difficult to step back out of that, like did it take a while or did you just kind of brush it off fast?

Julia: No I was ready to brush it off. I was ready to let the sun shine.

Jamie: Okay. Great. Thank you.

Moderator: Our next question comes from the line of Kelly Bryant from Okmagazine.com.

Kelly Hi, Julia. I wanted to know if you could talk a little bit about the casting of Grace Gummer in Paloma.

Julia: Sure. I had seen her in a play in New York called The Columnist with John Lithgow, and I was really struck by her presence. I was struck by the fact that she had to play a variety of different ages. She played even like a teenager, and I thought that she really pulled that off well and thatís a difficult thing to do. Her physicality was really remarkable on stage, and I was just really impressed. I think also with theatre actors or actors who have a lot of experience in theatre have a whole other skillset, and so she just was delightful and kind of alike a beacon of light. I thought of her for the part and luckily she responded to the material, and we were able to work it out.

Kelly Great. Thank you.

Moderator: Our next question will come from the line of Jamie Ruby from scifivision.com.

Jamie: Again, hi. Is there anything in particular that youíve learned about yourself since you started working on Blue?

Julia: It sounds counterintuitive but I learned that Iím a lot more modest than I even thought I was. Intellectually I could say to Rodrigoówhen we were coming up with story ideas I said, ďWe have to be realistic about this girlís job and some of the experiences she has with her clients have to be dangerous otherwise weíre just not being realistic.Ē And so he wrote scenes where the clients are not so nice to her, and then we would get to the set and Iíd be like, ďOh, shit. Well, I signed up for this.Ē Yeah I think that was the biggest thing.

Jamie: Okay. Can you describe your character in three words?

Julia: Blue, okay. Confused, secretive, and childish at times.

Jamie: Okay. Thank you.

Moderator: We have a question coming from the line of Gerry Miller from MNN.

Gerry: Hi, Julia, again. I have a question about all the other cast members in Blue. How you got them to participate. Were they all really open to doing a web series in the first place like Kathleen Quilan and William Peterson or did they jump right on board?

Julia: That was largely I think to Rodrigoís credit. They all seemed really excited to be there, and I was certainly impressed with the cast that we got. There was noóyeah it was great to have people show up on set who really wanted to be there because they loved the material, and nobody was getting rich from this. It was interesting to act with a different person every day. I donít know but I think I largely credit Rodrigo with the casting decisions.

Gerry: Okay. Because itís a new medium and you didnít get the sense that they were reluctant to try anything like that because it was different from what they were used to?

Julia: No. By the time they got to set I think, yeah, everyone was sort of excited and intrigued at the possibility of making good scripted content for the web. Also on set it didnít feel likeówe have a professional crew, and we have advanced cameras, and the actual logistics of making the show are not that much different from being on stage on any TV show. But they also would come in for like a day here and there so I think they were down for the adventure.

Gerry: And you making so many more episodes the second season than the first was that intentional or thereís so much more story to tell or what was the thought there?

Julia: I think it was yeah there was more story to tell, more ground to cover. The episodes are short so I think itís also the nature of the Internet is that thereís so much content out there that in order to compete you really have to make a lot. It was a lot. Ö yeah it was double what we did the second time but I think that we did it because we could.

Gerry: Okay. Thank you.

Michelle: Okay. I think weíre about to wrap up the conference call unless there is one more question.

Moderator: We do have another question.

Michelle: Okay. This will be the final question though. Thank you.

Moderator: And that will come from the line of Jane Gassociationer from Midlife Bloggers.

Jane: Hi, Julia, again. I was also struck by the kind of intimacy that watching Blue on the small screen give. I wondered as an actress are you doing anything different? Do you have to think of anything, does that affect you or is it all done in the editing and directing?

Julia: Itís largely driven by the director. Rodrigo would constantly tell usólike the reason that weíre all here and the reason that this kind of thing is exciting in terms of the creative freedom that weíre given is that his style is really to emphasize the moments in between dialog. He would always tell us to slow down and just to let moments play out, and we didnít have to rush. Like a lot of times with traditional television theyíre competing to keep your attention in between ads so thereís a lot more explicitly said in dialog. Rodrigo was really emphasizing that we could treat this almost like a movie where you can let moments breath.

In terms of while I was acting I was tryingóI didnít really treat it any differently in terms of like the screen size, but when I directed Paloma I remember thinking I was aware of like I donít want to be too subtle because I think that people are watching this on smaller screens. Also, itís a very intimate experience to be watching something at your computer but you never know like somebody could be watching it from their computer at work or they could be watching it from their computer with another group of people or on an airplane or something. Itís hard to predict and you canít control where somebody is going to be watching what you make so you kind of just have to try and tell the best story that you can and hope it translates.

Jane: Okay. Thank you.

Julia: I mean people could be checking their email while theyíre watching so you know.

Jane: I donít think so. Itís pretty riveting.

Julia: Oh, thank you. Thank you so much.

Michelle: Okay. Thank you all so much for participating in our conference call today. I will be sending you all an email with a reminder of how you can receive an audio recording. Iíll forward you a transcript as well. Operator, can you please explain the audio recording as well?

Moderator: Yes. Ladies and gentlemen, this conference will be available for replay after 11:00 a.m. today until March 22nd at midnight. You may access the AT&T Executive playback service at any time by dialing 1-800-475-6701 and entering the access code 286045.

Michelle: Thank you, everybody.

Moderator: That does conclude our conference for today. We thank you for your participation and for using AT&T Executive Teleconference Service. You may now disconnect.

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