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Interview with Arthur Smith of "Kitchen
Nightmares" on FOX 4/8/14
This was an interesting call. I don't watch the show
regularly, but I did watch last week's episode. I think Mr.
Smith might have inferred more than I was asking in my
question. I didn't mean to say that the show was scripted or
anything like that, but we all know that with reality shows,
they do edit the shows in such a way as to make it come out
looking the way they want it to look. Also, they purposely
choose people they think will be interesting or dramatic,
and they encourage them to behave that way as much as
possible. That's all I was talking about. I wasn't saying
that someone actually wrote a script or that they were lying
in the show... Ah, well, I hope it was successful for them.
It's interesting that he said that it's like a documentary
because I read that the British version of the show is much
more about the cooking and the food, and this show was, too,
for the first few seasons, but then they amped it up and
made it more about the personalities of the chefs. So
obviously it's not so much of a documentary as he tried to
claim here. I know why he has to say that, though. He wants
us to think it's real.
FBC PUBLICITY: The Kitchen Nightmares Conference Call
April 8, 2014/1:30 p.m. PDT
Moderator Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for
standing by. Welcome to today’s Kitchen Nightmares
conference call with Arthur Smith. [Instructions given.] As
a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now
like to turn the conference over to Joanna Wolff for opening
remarks. Please go ahead.
J. Wolff Thank you and thank you, everyone, for joining the
Kitchen Nightmares conference call with executive producer
Arthur Smith. Kitchen Nightmares returns for its sixth
season with a two-hour premier this Friday, April 11th at
8:00/7:00 Central on Fox. As a reminder, the premier episode
“Return to Amy’s Baking Company” is now available on our
screening room and all press materials are available at FoxFlash.com. Now I’d like to turn it over to Arthur and
we’ll begin taking questions.
A. Smith Hello, everybody. I’m here to answer any questions,
obviously, about this season, another really, really
interesting season. You know, a lot of strange things
happened this season, but I’m going to let you ask the
questions and if there’s anything I can fill in for you, I’m
Moderator Thank you very much. We will first go to the line
of Sean Daly with TheTVPage.com. Go ahead, please.
S. Daly Hello, there. Good day, Mr. Smith. How are you?
A. Smith Good. How are you?
S. Daly I’m wonderful, thank you. So I had a chance to see
the episode. It is very engaging, very explosive, in some
ways. Can you take us back to when Ms. Garcia shows up at
the restaurant and they look a little bit surprised, but are
they really surprised? Did they know she was coming? Were
they aware that they were going to be thrust into this
episode again? What was the dynamic? What was going on
A. Smith No, they weren’t aware. I mean, we had – there was
communication, as we have with all the restaurants. We talk
to them and check up on them and everything else like that,
so there had been conversations with them about what was
going on, but you know, she really did just show up, but
naturally we had to be allowed in, which they did. So it –
the way you saw it was the way it was. There was no, like,
“We’re coming at such-and-such a time” type of thing.
S. Daly They seemed as if at one point Sandy was asking for
money. He wanted to be paid for it. We never saw the resolve
of that. I guess he didn’t get paid, but they did seem
pretty upset when she showed up, and why did she show up?
Why not Gordon?
A. Smith Well, I mean, you know, listen, the reason for –
I’m just going to back up for a second. The reason for us
doing this special, you know, as you know, in seasons past
we’ve done revisit specials and we’ve gone back to places
and there’s actually going to be a revisit special in this
season. This show caused so much attention for a variety of
reasons and we decided to, you know, devote more time than
just putting it in a revisit show of which we do usually
three or four restaurants.
So you know, considering it was the only episode in the
almost 100 episodes that we’ve done that Gordon walked out
of, you know, like I said, that was another reason why we
did it. The way things were left, with Gordon walking out
and it being a very heated departure, we decided that it was
best that, Gordon didn’t go nor did he want to go back
because, you know, it didn’t end well. You know, most of our
Kitchen Nightmares episodes end – as you know, they end very
happy. We’re there to help and that’s what Gordon was trying
to do the entire time he was there.
So, we preferred to do it this way. You know, send a
reporter in to, you know, and have her check up on them and
see what they’re doing and see how they were feeling and
everything else, and as you know, in the show, for those of
you who haven’t seen it yet, I mean, Gordon’s hosting the
show. He is providing commentary on what he went through,
what he was feeling at the time. He’s also, you know,
introducing pieces about the media firestorm that happened,
you know, following the airing. He’s also introducing and
setting up bonus material that didn’t fit into the show. It
was a tough show to edit down to 42 minutes, so we had a lot
of extra material that we thought would be interesting for
people to see.
So, I mean, it’s, you’ve seen it. So I mean, it’s a
jam-packed show with a lot of information and stuff like
that and I think, I think people are going to be very
interested. We know people are very interested in Samy and
Amy and the restaurant, so you know, this is a way to
continue the story and provide some more information.
S. Daly Thank you.
Moderator Thank you. Next, we’ll hear from the line of
Suzanne Lanoue with The TV Megasite. Go ahead, please.
S. Lanoue Hello. Good morning. I don’t watch a lot of
reality shows but one of the things I always wonder when I
watch them, and I did in this case, too, is you know, just
how much of it is “real,” so I was wondering about Amy and
Samy. Are they just, like, looking for attention so they
sort of play up a lot for the camera or are they just kind
of really dysfunctional, to put it nicely? What do you think
A. Smith I can’t answer for them. That’s something I can’t
answer for them. Kitchen Nightmares is real. I mean, it’s a
documentary. It’s a documentary. This notion of reality
shows that are scripted, you know, it’s not Kitchen
Nightmares. Kitchen Nightmares documents what happens each
week when Gordon Ramsay shows up at a restaurant and tries
to turn it around.
You know, the thing about most of these restaurants for a
lot of people - and I’ll get back to Samy and Amy in a
second – but for a lot of people, opening a restaurant is
fulfillment of a dream and they’ve had an idea in their mind
probably years before about what they wanted to do, and it’s
always hard to listen to somebody come in and say, “You’re
not doing right.” You know, it’s interesting because they
ask for Gordon’s help, but as soon as they hear some of his
critiques it’s like they don’t want to hear it because
people want to confirm what they were doing was right.
Unfortunately, if it was right, then the business would be
As for Samy and Amy, like I said, it’s the same thing I
would, you know, not just say for Samy and Amy; I would say
for any of the people who’ve appeared in our show. You’re
always better off talking to them then for me trying to
figure out their actions.
S. Lanoue Okay. Well, thanks very much. Also, my friend Ben
on Facebook had a question. This is kind of a follow-up.
Gordon, he has quite a reputation from the shows of being
kind of abrasive and foul-mouthed. Is he more like that in
real life or nicer or what would you say?
A. Smith You know, Gordon Ramsay is a complete gentleman.
I’ve known him for a long time now and you know, we also do
Hell’s Kitchen with him. You know, he is on a mission.
Actually, the thing about if you watch Kitchen Nightmares
and you watch the breadth of the shows that we’ve done over
the last six years, I think he is always on point, he’s
always fair, he’s always open and you know, kitchens are –
there’s a lot of, there are tense situations and things do
escalate, but you know, especially on Kitchen Nightmares.
You know, there’s a lot of nurturing moments on Kitchen
Nightmares. I mean, there’s a lot of things that, you know,
It’s interesting – the episode that follows Amy’s baking
company this Friday, there’s, you know, “The Return to Amy’s
Baking Company” is at 8:00 and then there’s an episode at a
restaurant called Pantaleone’s in Colorado. Gordon and the
owner of the restaurant, who’s probably the most, maybe the
most stubborn owner Gordon has ever met with, they really
built a phenomenal relationship and I don’t want to give it
away what happens, but they have such a great connection.
Such a great connection, and you could see how Gordon really
cares about him, as he does about all these places. He
really does take this very, very, very seriously. He really
is there to help, and quite frankly, even as far as Amy’s
Baking Company, it was very disappointing that he didn’t get
to finish his plan. He showed up on the next day to complete
a plan. He just never got to do it, and he did have a plan.
So you know, the policy is always for Gordon as well as
everybody who works on Kitchen Nightmares is to make, you
know, to do the best we can at making these restaurants
better than when we first arrived, and that’s our goal. You
know, we’re going to businesses that are in trouble, so it’s
always difficult to turn them around, but our goal is, you
know, we just have to try to make them better. Hopefully
that will work?
Sorry, a very long answer to your question.
S. Lanoue Thank you very much.
A. Smith Okay.
Moderator Thank you. Next, we’ll hear from the line of Kelly
Hughes with Express Times. Go ahead, please.
K. Hughes Hello, Arthur. Thanks for taking my question. I’m
calling in reference to Bella Luna, which I believe is the
A. Smith Yes.
K. Hughes They’ve since had liquor code violations and have
closed. I’m just wondering – clearly, they’ve had their
share of problems, but I was curious what the most glaring
problem was when you were there.
A. Smith Well, I think, you know, you know, the episode –
I’ll back it up. They had lost their way. It’s a mother and,
you know, a couple of sons and I think they, they had a
vision of what they wanted it to be and I think that without
telling you about what’s in the episode, it’s that, their
standards weren’t quite what they needed to be to serve
Easton. I think that they made some bad assumptions and the
problem with most of these restaurants is the food, right?
So they had a lot of, a lot of frozen food and Rosaria,
who’s a wonderful person and this great Italian family, but
you know, it wasn’t as authentic as it needed to be and it
wasn’t as fresh as it needed to be.
So like I said, I don’t want to get into too much detail and
of course, I can’t comment on any issues that they’re
having, outside of what happened when we were there, but
they were lovely people and the sons were awesome. You know,
one of the things about Gianfranco, who was – you’re really
testing my memory here – one of the things about Gianfranco,
the son who was working in the restaurant, was, you know, he
became a head chef. Basically, his mother installed him as
the head chef with very, very little experience, so Gordon
gave him like a phenomenal crash course – a phenomenal crash
I mean, the other interesting thing about Kitchen Nightmares
is what people don’t see because it’s not that interesting
for television, is the amount of training that happens
behind the scenes or that’s not covered on camera. There’s
actually training going on. The restaurant does open. The
public really does come, so there’s a great deal of training
that goes on. We actually leave them with a manual and a
guidebook and there’s a lot of care that goes into not only
changing it but training them and then trying to give them
the roadmap to follow.
You know, like I said, we take this very, very seriously.
K. Hughes As a follow-up to that question, what’s the track
record for the show of the number of restaurants that have
succeeded versus those that have closed after you’ve been
A. Smith Yes, you know, I don’t keep the stats. I really
don’t. The restaurant business is a tough business as it is.
Most restaurants close within their first year of operating.
There’s some horrific stats in that regard and you know, so
I’m not quite sure.
Like I said, we go to restaurants that are already in
trouble. The fact that we’re able to save a number of them I
think is quite an achievement and you know, they also have
to follow the plan, too. So you know, some of them want to
go back to their old ways, so there’s a lot of variables
that, you know, that we can’t control. We know that when we
leave them we’ve left them better and hopefully, hopefully
they follow the path and they’ll have great success. That’s
why it’s important that we do – that we always like to do a
revisit special each year. We, along with Fox, talk about,
you know, as we’re planning the show, it’s like people are
very curious to what’s happened. It’s exactly what you’re
saying. So that’s why we always have a revisit special and
this year we are doing a revisit and we’re going back to at
least three restaurants so you’ll get an indication on how
K. Hughes Okay, and will you say in the episode that they’re
since closed or is that not disclosed?
A. Smith If they’re closed, we say they’re closed. If
they’re open, we say they’re open. You know, we say
whatever’s happened. Sometimes there’s changes in
ownerships, sometimes – over time, as you know, for this,
we’re in the real world. We’re dealing with real
restaurants, with real families and we’re trying to help
them, and we can only control what we can control, which is
to put them on the best path we can. So whatever the
information is that we have, we try to provide it. So, you
know, good news, bad news, interesting news, change in
ownerships, you know, firings, hirings, you know, whatever,
we try to provide those in the revisit shows.
K. Hughes Okay, thank you.
A. Smith Thank you.
Moderator Thank you very much. We’ll hear next from the line
of Ari Fischbach with Fox Audio Central. Go ahead, please.
A. Fischbach Hello. Thank you so much for taking the call
today. I was curious, what was one of the biggest surprises
of the season or largest transformations? Is there anything
that you were really blown away with?
A. Smith This coming season?
A. Fischbach Yes.
A. Smith Okay, this coming season we have a lot of, like, a
lot of – as I said, there were some strange things that
happened. There was a restaurant in New York in Queens, and
it was called Kati Allo. We probably had the biggest
reaction I’ve ever seen to a makeover. As you know, we
always makeover the restaurants or makeover the restaurants
that need it, which is most of the time. The owner,
Christine, I have never seen a reaction to a makeover like
that. I thought she was going to pass out. I mean, it was
like so huge and we always get good reactions because we do
– there are some dramatic changes. It was wild.
We also – you know, there was a restaurant this year called
Old Neighborhood which was in Colorado, near Denver. You
know, we’ve had bad kitchens before, but this dining room
was a disaster. I don’t think we’ve ever had that combo of
dining room and kitchen in bad shape, but we had both of it.
Gordon goes on this mission and some of the stuff that he
finds is going to be – is quite shocking. So that was, you
The interesting thing about this year is that we really
focused on family businesses this year. Every restaurant in
this season I think for the first time is a family-operated
business. So we have husband and wife, we have mother and
son, we have father, mother and son, we have father and
daughter, we have mother and daughter, we have aunts and
niece, which is an interesting combination. So you know, so
yes, that’s another unique quality. It’s our first time in
Colorado. We’ve never been to that part of the country. We
always try to go to new places every year. It’s probably the
most emotional season we’ve ever done when I think back on
it. I can’t – I mean, every one of them, as I’m like
thinking back, every one of them, you know, just so
emotional. It’s yes, I mean, great stories. Really, really
A. Fischbach Great. Thank you.
A. Smith Thank you.
Moderator Thank you very much. Next, we will her from the
line of Hailey Wringle with The Phoenix Business Journal. Go
H. Wringle Hello. Thanks for taking my call.
A. Smith Hello.
H. Wringle I haven’t seen the episode yet, “Return to Amy’s
Baking Company,” but I’m wondering if you can kind of talk
about why you think it resonated so much with viewers and
why it became such a, you know, such a crazy hit online.
A. Smith Well, I think it was, you know, I mean it was very,
very intense, also. You know, there was – you said you
haven’t seen the episode or you have?
H. Wringle I haven’t seen the new episode.
A. Smith You haven’t seen the new one, but you saw the old
H. Wringle Yes, yes.
A. Smith Alright. So if you can recall, it was extremely
intense and I think people – you know, Gordon walked out,
and Gordon never walks out. So the intensity of it, the
drama of it, I think was compelling and I think people were
very, very curious about what was the restaurant that Gordon
just had to walk out on and why he walked out. I think
people were – you hear about Gordon Ramsay, the man who’s,
you know, done almost 100 Kitchen Nightmares and has never
walked out and what could have happened that made him walk
out? Believe me, as you know, as you may know if you’ve
watched a number of episodes, there are harder ones and more
challenging ones and times when Gordon almost walked out or
close to walking out or ones where he even regretted going
to, but never before has there been one where he felt that
he needed to because he felt he couldn’t help them because
they weren’t interested in what he was saying no matter how
he said it or when he said it or what he said.
So I think that yes, I think that’s why it was so, people
were so curious because yes, you’re right, millions watched
it on the Internet.
H. Wringle As a follow-up, I know that there was some word
that they were supposedly filming another reality show. Was
that anything that you talked about on the episode or did
you get any confirmation of that?
A. Smith No, it’s not something that we dealt with and I
don’t know the status.
H. Wringle Okay, thank you very much.
A. Smith Thank you.
Moderator Thank you. That was our final question today.
J. Wolff Okay. I just wanted to thank everyone for joining
the call and thank you, Arthur, for your time. Again, as a
reminder, the show premiers this Friday, April 11th at
8:00/7:00 Central with a two-hour episode on Fox. Thank you,
A. Smith Thank you, everybody.
Moderator Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, that
concludes your conference today. We appreciate your
participation and your using AT&T Executive Teleconference.
You may now disconnect.
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