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Interview with Rachel Nichols, Victor
Webster and Simon Barry of "Continuum" on
I wasn't able to make this call , but I have spoken with
all three before, and they are wonderful interviewees and
excel in their jobs as actors and writers. I love this show,
and I'm so glad it's a hit. It's rare that a thoughtful
science fiction show is successful (even on cable).
This show has so many great layers and pushes you to the
edge in every possible way. Love it!
Moderator: Stephen Cox
June 3, 2013 1:00 pm CT
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by.
Welcome to the Continuum Syfy conference call.
Gary Morgenstein: Welcome to the Continuum conference call.
Friday, June 7 at 10:00 pm Continuum returns for its second
season on Syfy at its new time period. And to talk about the
season I have stars Rachel Nichols and Victor Webster and
executive producer, Simon Barry. Hello everyone, thank you.
Simon Barry: Thank you.
Rachel Nichols: Hi.
Simon Barry: Thank you.
Operator: And our first question comes from the line of Erin
Willard with SciFi Mafia. Please go ahead.
Erin Willard: Hi, thanks so much for being on the call
Rachel Nichols: Of course.
Erin Willard: Well, what a phenomenal season finale and
Season 2 premier. I adore a show that makes me pay
attention. So thank you for the spoilers and thank you so
much for your work. I really appreciate it.
Rachel Nichols: Awesome, thank you.
Erin Willard: My pleasure, believe me... Iíd like to hear
from each of you what youíre most excited about the fans
seeing in Season 2.
Rachel Nichols: What are we allowed to talk about regarding
Simon Barry: No spoilers.
Victor Webster: That doesnít leave us much.
Rachel Nichols: Gosh, well.
Simon Barry: You can speak in general terms about those
things that youíre excited about, in general terms.
Rachel Nichols: Actually, you know, one of the episodes
thatís my favorite, thereís sort of a new piece of - kind of
a new piece of technology is introduce and itís one that
Kiera has never really seen or experienced before. And itís
a piece of future technology that appears in the present day
to help her deal with kind of a very emotional situation
sheíd going through. And I think that mechanism was used
extremely, extremely well.
Thereís also an interesting relationship change for Kiera
and Carlos. And I think their journey this season is
extremely important. And it really sets up, you know, knock
on wood, future seasons of the show. And yeah, I think those
- that would be Episode 5 and Episode 6 are two that I would
highlight in Season 2.
And then wow, I mean, Iím covered from head to toe in
bruises and can barely move because I was doing a fight
scene for 15 hours yesterday. And that season finale is
going to be epic, to say the least.
Erin Willard: Great.
Simon Barry: Victor, go ahead.
Victor Webster: You know, I just have to echo some of the
things that Rachel said. I think the relationship between
her and I really goes through a big rollercoaster this year.
And our friendship is tested, itís validated, itís - I mean,
goes through the whole gambit of different trials and
The fight scene that Rachelís talking about that she did,
Iím actually really looking forward to - I read it in the
script. I donít know how theyíre going to pull this off so I
canít wait to see that. And I think thatís going to be
Iíd have to say those are - the biggest thing is
relationship and that last fight scene. It sounds like itís
going to be awesome.
Simon Barry: Yeah, I think thereís so much - so many things
to look forward to this season. For me it sort of
encapsulates what Iím most excited about in seeing is really
the show I think taking on its own identity in a way that we
didnít have a chance to do in Season 1 because it was a new
show and we were still kind of finding our way.
But I think Season 2 the show really owns its place in terms
of storytelling and what the mythology of the show has - you
know, how important the mythology of the show is to the
storytelling and also how connected and interconnected the
characters are. So I think for me itís really just the show
settling in to knowing exactly what it is and how the show
should be. And I imagine that the fans will respond to that
Erin Willard: Great. I can already tell that from the season
premier so Iím really looking forward to it. Thanks so much.
Simon Barry: Thank you.
Victor Webster: Thank you.
Operator: And our next question comes from the line of Jamie
Ruby with scifivision.com. Please proceed.
Jamie Ruby: Hi guys. Thanks for doing the call. Is there
anything -- I donít know, maybe thatís as much as you can
talk about it -- but can you talk more about kind of the
changes in the relationship this season? Or is that all you
Rachel Nichols: Well, you know, at the end of Season 1 and
the beginning of Season 2, Kieraís very much a lone wolf.
And sheís sort of - kind of alienated Carlos and sort of
Eric - and Alec in a certain way. And as far as her
relationship with Carlos goes, you know, heís like her best
friend, whether he knows it or not. And sheís really
dependant on him.
And getting them through Season 2 so that they can continue
on together essentially as partners is extremely important.
And I would just - I mean, speaking very vague terms which I
know is super annoying, itís just - it just - what
transpires in Season 2 will only lend itself to them being
able to continue the path that theyíre on together.
And his understanding of her definitely grows because it has
to. And essentially sheís not working for the VPD at the
beginning of the season and she needs to get back in to
continue the fight. And Carlos is her biggest supporter. And
heís the only person that has never let her down, and that
is defined this season.
Jamie Ruby: Victor or Simon, one of you - do you have
anything to add?
Victor Webster: Well, I think Iíll let Simon answer that
Simon Barry: Well, I would say I think all the relationships
on the show in one way or another get redefined in an
interesting way. And Rachelís right. I think that her
relationship with Carlos becomes much more complex. But that
doesnít mean that itís just those two. I think that the
level of complexity and the challenges of relationships
actually across the board, whether itís Alec, whether itís
Kellog, the members of Liber8, the police department.
Everyone seems to have an opportunity to sort of redefine
their role on the show in a way. And itís interesting to see
where they all land by the end of Season 2 in terms of those
definitions. So for me thatís a really fun part of the show
is allowing a lot of our characters to interact and to also
change positions in a way that I think is not expected.
Jamie Ruby: Okay, cool. And then this is more for Simon. I
just - are we going to see - like I know obviously will
eventually, but more towards the beginning of the season
more about how - why Alec sent Kiera back? Because it seems
like he sent Liber8 back to kind of undo some of what he
did, but then he sent her back it seems like to stop them.
Itís a little confusing to me.
Simon Barry: Yeah. We do open the door to that question and
that mystery a little bit more than we have in Season 1. And
I think itís - a lot of it goes to paying off sort of the
conspiracy of how Kiera got involved in the first place in
this time travel experiment.
So one thing we are leading to in act - as far as Season 2
is not only exploring how older Alec Sadler was thinking and
why, but also the machinations of manifesting this
experiment and how it came to be. So that by the end of
Season 2 a lot of those questions are completely cleared up
and we know where we are in the universe.
Jamie Ruby: Okay, great. Thank you so much. I love the
Rachel Nichols: Thank you.
Simon Barry: Thank you very much.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Kyle
Nolan with noreruns.net. Please proceed.
Kyle Nolan: Hi everyone. Thanks for taking the time. So
Simon, could you talk about the balancing of the future
story and conspiracy with the current story line and how
much of that is mapped out when you first start the season?
Simon Barry: Well, we have the luxury of having most of our
season mapped out before we start shooting. And so we had a
very good idea of how we were going to break down the beats
from the future into the season. And so that we were not
kind of overwhelming the audience with too much information
And so there was a - we kind of tried to create a series of
story lines that at first glance may not seem connected. But
by the end of the season you realize that they are. And some
of them are definitely rooted in the present, and some of
them are connected to the future. And so itís, you know,
itís one of those things where you - when youíre looking at
a whole season in advance youíre trying to approach it so
that you balance all of those gems of information of reveal
throughout the season instead of being forced to show
everything at once, you know?
Kyle Nolan: Yes. And could you talk about any new characters
or locations weíll see this season?
Simon Barry: Absolutely. Well, we are carrying over two
important characters from Season 1, those being Gardiner,
the federal agent, and Jason, who is the other time traveler
that Kiera encounters whoís come 20 years ahead of her. And
so those characters play a large role in Season 2.
Weíre also bringing in a love interest for Alec because he
is after all an 18 year old boy and it would be a little
weird for him to not have someone in his life as he turns -
as he gets closer to 19. So weíre bringing in a character
And also weíre - weíre also introducing the character that
we mentioned last season at the end of the season, Escher
who weíll be bringing in about mid-point during the season.
Kyle Nolan: Great, thanks. I really enjoyed the premier.
Rachel Nichols: Awesome, thank you.
Simon Barry: Thanks so much. I appreciate that.
Victor Webster: Thanks.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Joshua
Maloney with Niagara Frontier Publication. Please proceed.
Joshua Maloney: Yeah, Rachel, can you tell us a little bit
about Kieraís resolve to get home? It seemed like it was
waning a little toward the end of the first season. Is that
still her ultimate goal or has things changed and now maybe,
you know, sheís a little bit leery about going back to her
Rachel Nichols: You know, I think the first season is - yes.
Towards the end there seemed to be a lot of other things
that were coming in to play. Thereís a very important
question that Alec asks Kiera at the beginning of Season 2
and he says, if you had prevented that building from going
down in the finale of Season 1, did it ever occur to you
what that act might have done to your future.
And itís something that she has to think about. And crazy
Jason says something else very important to her which is,
after youíve been here for a certain period of time your
memory of the future starts to fade and you begin to
question if you were ever there. Also something that Kiera
finds extremely terrifying.
Her resolve to get home is still very much intact, but
Season 2 is very defined by the idea that she realizes that
she was sent here for a reason. And she doesnít have a shot
to get back until she completes this mission that she
doesnít know anything about. And yes, going home - her son
is the most important thing to her. And he remains the most
important thing to her. And he will remain the most
important thing to her.
But she is here and she does have a job to do. And I think
we all know Kiera Cameron isnít going to stick her head in
the sand like an ostrich and wait for someone to tap her on
the back and say, oh, hereís your time travel device, you
can go home. So for all the time thatís she spends working
here in the present to try to get back to the future, she is
aware that she may indeed be changing the future and
preventing the birth of her son, her marriage, everybody she
knows and loves from existing.
But sheís the kind of person who is going to do her job
while she is here because thatís what she was sent to do and
thatís her purpose. And itís the idea that she canít get
home without doing it, so sheís got to do it.
Joshua Maloney: Interesting. Now what in Season 2 did you
find that you were able to do with the character that maybe
you couldnít do in Season 1?
Rachel Nichols: You know, there are a lot of - the writing
is fantastic on this show. Season 2 has a lot of - there are
a lot of sort of deeper emotional points. And there are -
thereís more of a definition between her relationship with
Carlos and that gets obviously deeper. And her relationship
with Erik and Matt goes through sort of a lot of ebbs and
I mean, her and Erik - Kiera and Alec this year, you know,
go - they have their highs and they have their lows and
thatís something that was very - was not really present in
Season 1. You know, he was her number one guy, so to speak
and she was his number one girl, and that relationship
suffers this season. There was a lot there to intervene as
And just the, you know, finding out sort of more about who
she is and where she comes from and the state of the world
at the time that she left and what sheís discovered about
the present day is constantly changing her impression of,
you know, the battle versus good and evil, right versus
wrong. Itís just that Season 2 is - there was a lot of
setting up to do in Season 1 so Season 2 definitely has the
moments of more sort of - more discovery for her character
and how she feels with - how she dealt with her life in the
future and how sheís doing with the life in the present day.
Joshua Maloney: All right, looking forward to it. Thank you
Rachel Nichols: Thank you.
Simon Barry: Thank you.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Jamie
Steinberg with Starry Constellation Magazine. Please
Jamie Steinberg: Hi everyone. Thanks again for taking the
Rachel Nichols: Hello.
Simon Barry: Hello.
Jamie Steinberg: I was wondering if Rachel and Victor could
talk about the comparisons and the contrasts between filming
Seasons 1 and 2.
Rachel Nichols: Victor, do you want to start?
Victor Webster: Sure. I think that, you know, there was a
feeling out process - obviously people coming together,
working for a common goal in Season 1, I think there are a
lot of question marks. I feel like Season 2 theyíve gotten
to know each other really, really well. I think he trusts -
Carlos trusts Kiera tremendously. Sheís always got his back.
But there is that lingering cloud of questions hanging over
top and thatís what is really going on. Because itís not
everything that it seems.
So the relationship has not reached its full potential
because of that. So I think that in Season 1 they have grown
to trust each other. And Season 2 theyíve now gotten to that
point and I think Carlos is getting close to needing answers
and wanting to know what the hellís going on. So it - I
think that thereís an evolution that is at some point, it
could be either this season or next season, has to come to a
head at one point. And thatís it.
Rachel Nichols: And for me, you know, it was revealed of
Episode 9 of last year when we were out at the farm and
Carlos was wounded and incoherent and losing a lot of blood
and Kiera said, you know, youíre my best friend and I lie to
you every day and it kills me. And she tells him - she tells
him, ďI have a son,Ē you know.
And obviously he doesnít really absorb any of this. But she
- But Kiera is in a very painful position when it comes to
Carlos. Because she - he is her partner, he is her best
friend. He trusts her. He sticks his neck out for her. He
defends her. And sheís lying to him on a daily basis. And if
she canít - she canít say hey, whatís up, Iím from the
future. That doesnít work. Thatís a sure fire way to get him
to go running in the other direction.
So, you know, Season 1 was a lot of sort of setting up that
relationship and the - and using Alec to help navigate that
relationship, and help create answers when answers needed to
be created. But itís something thatís very, very painful for
Kiera. And I think in Season 2 you see how those
complications have to be fleshed out in the best way
possible for the situation, which inevitably does bring
Kiera and Carlos closer.
Although, the reality is -- especially for Kiera -- the
reality of it is sort of I would say more - I would go with
more painful. But yeah, I mean, youíll see a lot in Season 2
about - with Kiera and Carlos becoming closer. And theyíre
still doing that dance. That dance still exists. It changes
a little bit, but it still exits.
Jamie Steinberg: And if you had to choose between your
multi-tool or - your suit, multi-tool or a weapon which one
could you not live without?
Rachel Nichols: Well, that suit, although it looks good on,
take it from a girl who did 15 hours of fighting in that
suit yesterday, I donít want to have to wear that. So I
would take the multi-tool because it does everything you
could possibly need it to do and it fits into a small
evening clutch so itís very easy to travel with.
Victor Webster: But I think I speak on behalf of all of the
men that watch the show, we like the suit.
Rachel Nichols: Well, keep liking it and Iíll keep wearing
it, but itís not the piece of tech Iím going to take with
Jamie Steinberg: All right, thank you guys.
Rachel Nichols: Awesome, thank you.
Simon Barry: Thank you.
Victor Webster: Take care.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Robin
Burks with fangirlconfessions.com. Please proceed.
Robin Burks: Hi. When you watch science fiction as a viewer
thereís a, you know, you need a certain element of
suspending disbelief. How do you make sure that Continuum
stays relatable and believable to those of us who are
Rachel Nichols: Oh Simon that is so for you.
Simon Barry: Well, I think that, you know, weíve tried to
create a bit of a (unintelligible) in Continuum with our
future terrorists/freedom fighters in that they are zeroing
in on the problems of today to avoid larger problems
tomorrow. And I think that thatís one sort of device that
will never go out of style.
Because I imagine the things in the news that we perceive as
being these challenging conflicts of right and wrong, and I
think weíll forever be debating whether these hard decisions
that we make in the world politically or otherwise are
necessarily the right thing.
And the show can take a stab at those things in a way that
other shows canít. Because with our charactersí perspective
of the future we can make a judgment call on things that
really are still - the jury I still out on. And I think that
what science fiction does well is it takes controversial
notions and explores them and tears them apart. And instead
of actually finding a solution maybe just creates a debate.
And weíve really worked hard to keep our gray area gray on
the show, and keep our characters much more - keep the
struggle alive in their challenges as opposed to making
things very easy and simple from a moral point of view. I
think that once - I know that myself and the writers on
Continuum will always do is look to the world today to find
those challenging ideas that are something we can bring a
debate to as opposed to a solution to.
And just allow people to talk about things. I mean, I think
weíve already done it with Season 1. Our fans have certainly
engaged each other and are having a very lively conversation
about what is the right thing and what isnít the right
Robin Burks: Rachel, Victor, anything to add as actor on a
science fiction show?
Rachel Nichols: Simonís so eloquent; itís hard. And I, you
know, I havenít this is my first true sci-fi show. Yes, I
would say that. Yes, I think the fact that - I think if you
can get, you know, the fans interacting, obviously we do
live tweets and we do all that. I think if you get the fans
interacting and theyíre always so fascinated and they always
have all these questions. And they want to know.
And when you do this - the reason I love sci-fi fantasy so
much and we have such great fans is that if you do sci-fi
well, they love you. They tell their friends. They watch
your show. They get their whole family to watch your show.
And itís the most rewarding thing. If you do something
half-assed theyíll have your head on a stake and theyíll
march it through town and they absolutely deserve to do so.
So I think if youíre going to do a sci-fi show and youíre
going - you need to do it well and you need to pay respects
to whatever mythology it is that you create. And if youíre
true to that mythology, people will, you know, get on the
wagon with you.
Robin Burks: Anything from Victor?
Victor Webster: There isnít anything I could possibly add.
Everything was said so perfectly.
Robin Burks: Well, I have a question for each of you then.
What has been the biggest challenge going into the second
season of Continuum?
Simon Barry: Well, Iíll answer that one first. I think itís
really just keeping the foot on the accelerator. Itís
keeping the level of interest, you know, from the fans high,
but also trying to make the show appealing to a new audience
and allow the show to grow.
I think, you know, we also are - because the show is
becoming much more kind of owning its personality, we run
the risk of being maybe too specific in some areas that we
havenít been in the past. So I hope that, you know, I think
that good television tends to do a good job of declaring its
space, if you will, declaring its shelf space. And thereís
always some - thereís always an uncertainty about that.
But I think that Season 2 for Continuum is really much
closer to the show than I had envisioned when I first
created it. And so Iím expecting that that will reward the
fans and will also provide us with more incentive to keep
Rachel Nichols: For me, you know, Iíve done TV before. You
know, Iíve been on shows for full seasons before. Iíd never
done a Season 2 of anything ever. And when we found out we
got picked up thereís that amazing sort of oh my gosh, weíve
got a Season 2 and the numbers are great and the fans really
love the show. How exciting is this. And we get to do it all
And then that fear sets in of oh God, I hope we donít
disappoint. And thatís one of those things where you, as a
team, between writers, directors, executive producers,
actors, everybody comes back for Season 2 and we just want
to put the best product out there because we know that
people are anticipating it.
And having that anticipation is the most wonderful thing and
also the most frightening. Because you donít want to let
these people down once theyíve invested so much in your show
and supporting it and talking about it. Youíve really got to
start a second season, a third season, a fourth season,
whatever season youíre starting after Season 1, youíve got
to really start strong so that you donít let the people down
that have supported you. And that for me was an intimidating
But I can honestly say that I donít think anybody will be
let down with Season 2. They certainly arenít here in
Victor Webster: No, I have to agree with that. I think one
of the things is that we set such a president from the first
Season. You know, something that was such a well rounded
show, great performances by people. The writing was
fantastic. Itís such an intelligent, smart show. Like Simon
said, there are so many shades of gray.
And the show can go in so many different directions. And I
think because Season 1 came off so well, that coming back
saying well, what we can do now is the opportunity - the
different paths that we can take are endless. And how do we
do that without disappointing the fans that loved Season 1
so much? You know, how do we take it up to another level?
How do we grow and continue to expand them when weíve
I think itís kind of a daunting feeling but I think now that
weíve done Season 2, looking back in retrospect itís - I
think that we brought it up to a whole different level. And
I donít know how Simon and the writing staff are going to
step up to the challenge of Season 3 because now it seems so
huge because weíve gone so far in Season 2. So itís just
something to be so proud of, you know?
Robin Burks: Great thank you. Looking forward to a Season 3.
Rachel Nichols: Yes, absolutely.
Simon Barry: Thank you so much.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Simon
Applebaum with Tomorrow Will Be Televised. Please proceed.
Simon Applebaum: Yes, thank you very much. Simon, weekly
dramas that have had a time travel focus have had an
admittedly mixed track record on television. Time
(unintelligible) and Voyagers lasted a year. Time Trax ran
two years in syndication. Quantum Leap probably the longest
running of the bunch, four, four and a half, five season.
Why do you think your series with a time travel focus has
caught on? What about the show and the time travel emphasis
is catching on with viewers.
Simon Barry: Well, I think that thereís this litmus test
with any show that has a big gimmick. And I think the litmus
test is would the show work if you didnít have the gimmick.
If you just had your characters and you just had a situation
that you could count on for dramatic purposes, would you
still watch the show?
And as much as we needed the gimmick to get our show
launched and off the ground, I have to say that we have such
a great group of actors and we have such a great group of
writers and directors pushing through that I think that
weíve - we feel very confident that thereís an opportunity
to tell great stories now that really arenít hung on the
gimmick of time travel necessarily. That arenít hung on
necessarily the science fiction element instead of grounded
in the characters and the characters relationships with each
So for me, I think weíll always embrace our connection to
sci-fi and also our gimmick which is, you know, arguably
time travel concept. But because we donít have to time
travel every week. Because we donít have to physically use
that trope, I think we have to create a show that would
survive without it. And therefore weíve found - weíve been
able to engineer the components of a good TV show that are
driven by characters and relationships that really can allow
a show to continue beyond what its set up was. And thatís
what weíre always trying to do is balance those things.
You know, and itís a production concept because also if we
were to time travel every week it would be a huge, you know,
cost towards the show. It would be very complicated. So I
think that because our actors are so grounded and believable
in the roles that they play we can really mind that and
those relationships in a way that other sci-fi shows maybe
donít have that luxury.
Simon Applebaum: Rachel and Victor, thanks to sci-fi people
here in the U.S. are going to see the second season right on
top of the first season. And this is something sci-fi last
year, it did very well. Now thatís in Season 3 and beyond.
Iím curious what you think about having viewers being able
to see the second season so fast after the first rather than
wait a year or two or six months or so to see the second
Rachel Nichols: No. I would want them to go - I would want
them to go right into it. I want everybody to be caught up,
so to speak. I think itís a good way to go. I think itís a
smart way to go. I think it keeps people engaged and because
itís already airing here in Canada. And you want to keep - I
would think youíd want to keep the air dates for the seasons
as close together as possible.
Just, you know, just to keep everybody up to speed and not
spoil anything for those in the US. I think itís a very
smart thing to do to run the two seasons together. I donít -
yes. I donít necessarily believe that there should be years
in-between. I think people become forgetful.
And when youíre establishing a show, hey, giving them, what
is it, itís going to be 23 full episodes back to back. I
think thatís a luxury. Iím really happy that we did it, or
they did it. I really didnít have anything to do with it.
Victor Webster: Yes, I think today people have such a short
attention span that if you donít give them everything right
away I think people, minds, weíre multitasking so much,
weíre doing so many different things at once I think itís
really smart to give people a refresher for people that
maybe saw the first season and now theyíre watching it
Plus, thereís so many things hidden that you donít see the
first time around. That you really only notice maybe the
second or third time. Iíve seen the show a few times now and
I was on the show and Iíve read every script and thereís
still things that I see and itís like oh wow. You know, they
planted that in episode whatever it was and that pays off,
you know, five episodes later ands I never noticed it the
So there are so many things that sort of - each time you see
it. But, you know, having all of that momentum leading up to
the first season and into the second season, tying it all
together, I think is so important.
Simon Applebaum: Great. Thank you all very much. Have a
great Season 2.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Laurel
Brown with Zap2it. Please proceed.
Laurel Brown: I was wondering - one of the things that I
found really fascinating about the show in the first season
was the way that you brought in sort of the subtle politics
and I guess latent politics in some ways of the difference
between sort of a modern democracy and a futuristic
corporate takeover the world situation. Is that something
thatís going to continue in Season 2? Is it going to be
explored even more? And how do you see that as a part of the
Simon Barry: We certainly explore because we do draw links
between characters in the present and some of these designs
that, you know, these movements that will result in this
possible future. I think that our 2077 that Kiera comes from
has roots - has its roots in, you know, what a lot of people
perceive to be either something that could happen or
actually is already happening and has - and are public
politics really just masked?
And thereís so many different points of view about this that
itís just - I would hate to limit the scope of what people
perceive as the future as being anything specific. I love
providing details but Iím not sort of here to say this is,
you know, the worst thing in the world or the best thing in
the world. Or this is my definition of dystopic or whatever.
I think that the ideas of a corporate controlled future
donít need to be necessarily that extreme to be believable.
And that was one of the things that attracted it to me as a
possible model for a future was that itís not a huge leap in
terms of where we are today. So I wouldnít put it over - I
wouldnít necessarily - weíre not really in the business of
sort of trying to politic our way out of this situation or
show a pathway to a different, you know, system.
The show - the future of 2077 is that future. Itís pretty -
I think weíve established it and it is something that Kiera
knows as being her version of reality. Thereís really no
other point to comment on or de-shift it because itís - I
donít think it serves the show to be arguing whether or not
things are going to get better or worse or what. Itís really
about individual charactersí assessment. So Liber8 has point
Kiera has her point of view but that could change because of
the things she learns as she goes, and vice versa with
Liber8. There are characters in Liber8 who may see that the
present isnít all as bad as they thought. And so maybe those
extreme measures arenít required that they thought.
And so that for me is much more interesting than kind of
taking some political science approach to the whole thing. I
think I just want the audience to feel like itís a
believable future and thatís the intent.
Laurel Brown: Great, thanks a lot. Looking forward to Season
Rachel Nichols: Thank you.
Simon Barry: No problem. Thank you.
Victor Webster: Thank you. Take care.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Ernie
Estrella with buzzfocus.com. Please proceed.
Ernie Estrella: I spoke to you the first season to talk
about, you know, the loneliness that Kiera might be feeling.
But this season sheís so surrounded by men. All of her
relationships are very male based. Are we going to see her
have - maybe gain a relationship with another woman, someone
she can kind of, you know, talk to and have a shoulder to
lean on? Maybe her grandmother again or someone of the same
Simon Barry: I will actually cut you off right there and say
yes, thatís going to happen.
Ernie Estrella: But to get into the details would spoil it.
So Iím going to leave with that. But the...
Rachel Nichols: Wow, Simon, thank you. I was like - I was
about to answer. Thank you.
Simon Barry: But yes. There will be a major female character
that Kiera will encounter and deal with.
Ernie Estrella: Excellent, okay. And then also, can we talk
a little more about Lexa Doigís, you know, confusion into
Season 2. You know, she was kind of in the background in the
first season and then here she takes on the role of filling
in for Kagame. And, you know, are we going to see Sonyaís
plan? Or are we going to see her carrying out Kagameís plan?
Simon Barry: Well, I think thereís an interesting balance
there because on the one hand she is following Kagameís lead
and wants to, I think, acknowledge that mentorship and his
design. But at the same time there are circumstances that
Kagame could not have predicted. And also the way Lexaís
character, the way Sonya needs to deal with some situation
will present I think what is an interesting challenge.
So itís an evolution and the answer to your question is she
will be challenged as any leader is in, no matter what they
are leading, they have to find the balance between their
doctrine and who they are. And I think that Sonyaís no
different and we get to experience that journey with her.
Because itís one thing to just be told youíre the leader.
Itís another thing to pull it off and how you do it says a
lot about not only who you are but where - how you will have
to proceed following that.
So I think thatís one of the fun sort of power structures of
the show and one of those parts of the show and one of those
parts of the show we get to explore and allow to evolve in a
Ernie Estrella: Victor and Rachel, do you have any kind of
points of view as far as observing what Lexa brings to
Victor Webster: Well, I think personally I just, you know,
Iíve been a big fan of Lexa. I think sheís an amazing
actress. I think she really gets to show a lot of her
talents this year. She gets - everybodyís story line this
year, all of the characters are developed so richly and you
really get an understanding of what everybodyís going
through. And, you know, Sonyaís one of those characters that
we really get to see a lot from her this season. And itís
such a delight because sheís so fantastic, you know.
But I think, you know, like Simon was saying, obviously
Kagame has had such a strong influence on her. But she now
has that mentorship that is gone which has left all of the
teachings with her. But she now has to fend for herself and
make her own decisions. So it would be interesting to see
how that manifests.
Rachel Nichols: Yes, Iím not sure that thereís - Iím not
sure that thereís much else I can add to be honest. Itís -
you know, when we end Season 2 and thereís a very precarious
position, sheís got a gun pointed at Travis. We pick up
right where we left - when we end Season 1 we pick up right
there where we left off in Season 2.
And that sort of tension in Liber8 I think is very important
even though Kiera only finds out about it when itís sort of
already going on. I think that is very important. The
relationship between Sonya and Travis I love. Itís twisted
but I love it.
And I think - and Lexaís great. I mean, she plays a great
ass-kicking, you know, baddie. And she can do whatever you
need her to do, whatever you ask her to do. And she can do
the emotion and she can do the action. Her personality,
knowing Lexa, her personality comes out in the funniest ways
in Sonya, which I always appreciate.
Ernie Estrella: Great. Thank you very much.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Kevin
Bachelder with Turning in to Sci-Fi TV. Please proceed.
Kevin Bacheldur: Just wanted to mention Iíve had the
opportunity to see the first few episodes of Season 2
without any spoilers. And that spoiler you mentioned Kiera,
itís a wonderful performance and a great story element.
Folks are going to love that one.
Rachel Nichols: Oh, thank you so much.
Kevin Bacheldur: Yes, it was really a good one to see.
Rachel Nichols: It was the - Iíve said it before and Iíll
probably say it again. It was - that was the single most
difficult episode of television Iíve ever shot. And it was,
you know, very difficult to shoot. And I watched it the
other night while we were live tweeting and I was very proud
of the episode, but it was also the most difficult to watch.
So you mentioning that, I greatly appreciate.
Kevin Bacheldur: Itís one of the reasons why we love the
show. But my question kind of leads in to what you just
mentioned and we brought up here a little earlier. With the
different schedules between Canada and the U.S. and most of
you being very active on Twitter and social media which we
all love as fans, is there any discussion for how youíre
going to avoid, you know, spoiling one direction or another
now that theyíre five weeks or so apart?
Rachel Nichols: Well, I know...
Simon Barry: Thatís tough. Yes, itís a tricky question
because weíre encouraging everyone obviously to not have a
delay. Weíd like the show to be broadcast as close as
possible together between both countries. So whether you
want to look at the live tweeting or the marketing tool that
helps the show or pushes the broadcasters closer together, I
Unfortunately, you know, there is always that risk but we
donít want to treat any fans any differently than anyone
else. And we certainly would not want to downplay our
enthusiasm for our Canadian fans any more than we would want
to for the U.S. fans. So I think that strategically we will
try and do our best to be present for all this, you know,
broadcast when we can.
And honestly, the actors have taken it upon themselves to be
as active as they are. This is not something that we have
tried to manufacture or organize very much - well. Itís
really just sort of something thatís happened organically
which is probably what makes it so genuine or entertaining.
Itís not a - it hasnít been taken over, if you will, by the
marketing department. Itís really just a bunch of people who
like working together and love the show they work on and
love talking - interacting with the fans.
I think that, you know, certainly as sci-fi has done in the
past with shows like this with Lost Girl, theyíve tried -
theyíve made an effort to bridge that gap of broadcast
window. And so I think hopefully by the time we get to
Season 3 we wonít have to worry about these problems
Rachel Nichols: And I also, I mean, just from my point of
view. I donít - I try to be very ambiguous when Iím live
tweeting and I try not to give away huge spoilers. And
obviously people tweet into my feed and they say things
about last nightís episode or whatever. I try very carefully
in my sort of, you know, big tweet to not mention anything
Just because yes, I donít want to spoil it and I know that
there are people that say oh, well, I donít want to look at
your feed if itís - and I try very hard not to, yes, not to
spoil anything. Because I want everybody to be, you know,
sort of surprise and intrigued with everybody else.
Victor Webster: What Rachel said. I try to be as vague as
possible also. I do read some very specific tweets that was
- that are directed or tagged to me. And Iím just hoping
that people knowing that the show has so many twists and
turns that arenít trying to find out information. Because
you want it to organically happen on the show the way that
it unfolds on the show because I just feel like this -
thereís so many great moments you donít want them spoiled by
spoilers on the, you know, the Internet. So I try to do the
same thing, just be very vague.
Kevin Bacheldur: Great. Well we greatly appreciate it,
folks. This is a great show that we all love.
Rachel Nichols: Oh, thank you.
Victor Webster: Thank you so much.
Simon Barry: Thank you so much for saying that.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Diane
Morasco with Morasco Media. Please proceed.
Diane Morasco: Hi everybody. How are you today?
Rachel Nichols: Very good. How are you?
Victor Webster: Fantastic.
Diane Morasco: Iím great. This question is for Victor and
Rachel. What elements of your characters have you taken on
as your own newly adapted traits?
Rachel Nichols: Wow. Thatís a good question. Thatís one of
those questions I wish I had a couple days in advance. Iím
trying to think about it. I get it fights all the time now.
Iím totally using weapons on the streets of Vancouver. Iím
covered with bruises.
That is - yes. That is - Victor, do you have something right
off the bat because I want my answer to be brilliant and I
donít have a brilliant answer right now.
Victor Webster: I donít. I think, you know, I think when you
play a character for awhile I think - at the beginning I
think most of Victor goes into Carlos. But I think
inevitably as you play a character long enough and youíre
inside the head of the character, I think some of those
traits start rubbing off on you.
I canít think of anything very specifically. I do know that
in my - I have used some of Simonís and the other writing
staffís genius lines of dialogue in Victorís life. But I
donít know necessarily that any of Carlosís traits - because
I think so much of my personality and my thoughts and ideas
are infused into Carlos with, you know, obviously, you know,
Simonís and the writersí words and everything.
So nothing specific. But I know it just feels like something
thatís seeped in for sure.
Rachel Nichols: The comfort for me that has been - because
even the workloads demanding of the character is very, you
know, Kieraís very multifaceted. Thereís a lot going on for
her clearly all the time. The comforting and nice thing
about Season 2 is that sheís been properly established and I
feel now that the decisions that I make in the performance,
I feel as though she is me, I am her, no decision that I
make is actually going to be wrong because we are so close.
And, you know, awkward Rachel gets to show up in Kiera all
the time when I watch the show with friends. Theyíll be like
oh, we know that look. Or, you know, thatís totally
something you would do. As far as Kiera, I would say, you
know, one thing thatís been interesting for me is Kiera is a
mom. And Iím not a mom in real life, as far as I know. And I
think I would know.
But Kieraís a mom. And she - you know, every scene that we
do with Sam, that was sort of really learning something new.
And I feel like almost any time Iím with kids now I feel
like thereís part of Kiera that comes out in my maternal
instinct because I had been playing a mother as Kiera. And I
think that is actually really interesting. I always loved
kids, but Iíve never embedded so much in the idea of this is
my child as I have obviously with Sam. And so when I
interact with other children, I feel like part of Kiera
Diane Morasco: Great, thank you. Now Simon, did any of the
cast go beyond the scope of what was originally sketched
Simon Barry: I think that we definitely left room in
evolution in terms of character development when we started
the process. And we - I think as weíve gone from Season 1 to
Season 2 thereís been a desire to expand and to grow the
dynamics and the depths of all of the characters.
I think that sort of comes with when you - we have such a
great cast of actors who all are, you know, willing to give
you everything. And so it feels crazy to not provide them
with those kinds of parts that allow them to mine not only
the depths of their craft, but also that allow the show to
be better from a story and character and dramatic point of
So Iím happy to say that thatís an ongoing thing and itís an
ever present thing that is wonderful. So I hope it doesnít
go away. The show is only as good - you know, I can create
the foundation for the show which is one thing, but the show
lives and breathes as the actors, the writers and the
directors bring all the different dimensions to it. So
thatís part of what makes my job so much fun is being able
to wrangle all those ideas and creative influences and
And itís great. Itís fun. So I hope it doesnít change.
Diane Morasco: Thank you. And my last question is for
everyone. Describe yourselves in three words for Season 1.
And then the evolution for Season 2.
Rachel Nichols: Oh.
Victor Webster: Ourselves or our characters?
Diane Morasco: Yourselves personally.
Rachel Nichols: Oh gosh. Got to be careful what I say here.
By the noises Iím making - jeez, good questions, again. Wish
I had that one in advance. Iím blushing. Iím sitting home
alone and Iím blushing and I donít know why.
I think Season 1 I was certainly - not in performance, but I
was nervous, I think. Obviously, itís a big ensemble show.
But itís - a lot of it is based on my character and it
seemed that it was a task that I wanted to take. It was a
job that I adored and I got here to Vancouver and I was
I felt displaced because I had never been to Vancouver in my
life and I moved her last year on January 5 and I didnít
leave until May. So thereís was nerves, there was
displacement. And Iím going to go with those two until I can
think of another one.
And this year itís different. This year itís, like I said,
thereís this comfort. Thereís this level of comfort that I
have with Kiera and, you know, I have a fantastic acting
coach in LA and we recite every episode and I love to bounce
things off of her. And she said the other day, ďYou donít
need me anymore for Kiera.Ē Itís just second nature now and
thereís a great comfort of that and thatís changed a lot
clearly from my nervousness in Season 1.
And the displacement factor has completely disappeared.
First of all the weather in Vancouver is so much nicer here
than it was last year. But I have friends here. I have
family here. My crew and my cast are my family. I have
people that I know. I have places that I like to go. You
know, I have other friends here that are outside of the
business and itís - now Vancouver feels very welcoming and
very much like home to me. And Iím actually going to stay
after we wrap the show for a little bit, because I like it
here so much.
So that displacement thing has been replaced by calling this
entire form of my life home. And I - thatís very comforting,
very rewarding, and makes me want to come back for season
after season after season. I think Iím going to go with
those two. Victor, you.
Diane Morasco: Thank you. Good. Victor.
Victor Webster: You see, I think the first season I was very
excited to come on to such a show. I read the first script
and I knew some of the people that were attached to show and
that created a level of excitement of wanting to come out
here and be a part of this. I think nervous. Like Rachel
said, youíre always nervous when you come onto a job,
especially a series. Wondering whatís going to happen, where
itís going to go, whatís going to happen with your
character, what your new life is going to be like.
Letís see, I donít know if thatís a word. Like questioning
or I donít know the exact word to put on there, but there so
many variables. You know, not knowing what was going to
happen, where I was going to live, what the show was going
to be like, what the cast dynamic was going to be like, the
crew, where the character was going to go -- all of that
stuff. So that was first season.
I think now itís much more comfortable. Like Rachel said, we
are really a family. You know, everybody gets along so well
and itís, you know, having the show wrap for the second
season itís like that bittersweet, okay, this is fantastic.
Iíve had such a great time, weíre going on to these new
adventures, but Iím going to miss you guys so much.
I still have excitement because I love the show. Iím so
proud of it and so proud of what everybody has done and
where the show is going. Fingers crossed that we get a
third, fourth, fifth, you know, however many seasons we can
get. And I just, you know, I feel like Iím full of love for
- and pride for what weíve done. You know, I feel like
thereís a huge part of my life that has expanded and has
become so much more colorful and full, and thatís just a
Diane Morasco: Thank you. Simon?
Simon Barry: Season 1, busy. Season 2, busier.
Diane Morasco: Thank you so much.
Simon Barry: Youíre welcome.
Rachel Nichols: Nothing else? Thatíll be the quote for
Diane Morasco: Nothing else, guys? Thatís it, Simon? Just
busy and busier?
Simon Barry: No.
Rachel Nichols: Oh, come on Simon.
Simon Barry: I think itís been a great - for me, Season 1 is
probably more like being - it was an education, was
exciting. Definitely Season 2 is - I feel much more
confident in what I do and I feel like the show is showing
its true colors and is really good.
So I feel like Iím a parent, I guess. A proud parent in
Season 1 that got - gave birth. And Season 2, enjoying the
show, growing up and sort of standing on its own feet.
Diane Morasco: Thank you so much. Hereís to beyond Season 3
and many, many, more. Congratulations and best wishes, guys.
Simon Barry: Thank you.
Diane Morasco: Youíre welcome.
Rachel Nichols: Thank you so much.
Victor Webster: Thank you.
Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Tina
Charles with tvgoodness.com. Please proceed.
Tina Charles: Hi guys. Thank you so much for talking to us
today. So my question is more about the production aspect of
it. How was shooting this season different from shooting the
first season when nobody had seen it. By the time you
wrapped, you know, when it started airing you guys were
done. So now youíre shooting it in real time. People have
seen the first season. All of you are very active on social
media. Has it changed sort of how you approached coming into
this season now that everybody knew what you were doing?
Simon Barry: Yes, I think it does. I think you are acutely
aware of what has worked on the show and what the fans are
responding to. So we definitely wanted to make sure that we
were putting our best foot forward with regards to the
themes and mythology and the situations that seemed to have
resonated in Season 1. And that affected everything. Not
only the writing period, but also as we got into production
how we approached everything and gave things priority.
The other thing thatís important to realize is that weíve
got 95% of our crew that came back for Season 2. May even be
more than that. And so it really became a group of people
who had not only made Season 1 and put their, you know,
blood, sweat and tears into it, but had seen it also as a
crew and knew what the show was. So there was much less for
me to communicate for people. I think everyone really knew
their job and knew exactly the standard we were trying to
And also, they had been - they had seen the fruits of their
success. They were - I think we had a crew that was very
proud of the hard work theyíd done and the creative input
theyíd put into the show -- actors, directors, writers, the
crew itself. And I think that that gave people kind of a
sense of pride and workmanship going in that they knew the
show was good and they knew that they had worked hard and it
had shown on screen.
And I think everyone came back really happy to be in a group
of people they like working with, but also really focused on
keeping the quality level of the show at the level it had
Tina Charles: Thank you. Victor, Rachel, how is it different
for you to come into Season 2 as folks having seen the show?
Rachel Nichols: You know, itís the first time Iíve ever had
a Season 2 of a TV show that Iíve been on. Iíve been - done
some season ones or some season fives or season sixes, but
Iíve never done Season 1 and Season 2. And it was
interesting for me last year because I left Canada after we
finished shooting and it started airing in Canada. I did not
have access to the episodes, so and I was trying -
struggling to remember what happened in Episodes 1 through
10 so I could be active on it.
And then I got some DVDs sent and I started watching them
and it was sort of this - I was kind of discombobulated
because I felt - I so badly wanted to participate when it
was airing and I was struggling because I hadnít seen a lot
of the episodes yet.
This season is brilliant because Iím here. The show is
airing here. Iím going to stay here until the show stops
airing here. And to be able to interact in real time while
itís playing in real time, not saying, okay, this is the
commercial break, Iím pausing my DVD, hopefully Iíll get
back on at the right time. Itís so freeing and itís so much
fun. And so I feel like my, you know, my abilities have
matured and been fine tuned between last year and this year.
It was all - it was very much a new thing last year. And
this time around I - not only do I get to watch the episode
simultaneously with everybody else and live tweet, itís just
- I almost - I understand the mechanism better. So itís
easier to maneuver and that makes it more relaxing and very
Tina Charles: Okay, thank you. Victor, anything to add?
Victor Webster: Well, I mean, I think Simon hit on it as
well. You know, you see the first season and youíre gearing
up to come back for Season 2. You get an opportunity to see
what works. You get an opportunity to see - you know, when
youíre an actor you almost have tunnel vision because you
see your character and you see the way that you react within
the whole scheme of things, but you donít see how it fits
into the greater plan and the whole show. So when you get an
opportunity to watch the whole show you see how all these
pieces of these puzzles fit in together and all these
different storylines intertwined. So in a way it gives you a
stronger platform to work from.
So to come back I was so excited to implement all these new
ideas and these new things and there was also that sense of
nervousness because you realize how good the show is and
what a great job everybody did. And you want to come back
and you just want to take it up to another level. So those
are the two biggest things for me.
Tina Charles: Okay, well thank you very much. Iím really
looking forward to the second season. Thank you so much for
talking to us.
Rachel Nichols: Thank you.
Simon Barry: Thank you.
Gary Morgenstein: Thank you everyone. Our timeís up. Thank
you Rachel, Victor and Simon. And thank you everyone for
Simon Barry: Thank you.
Gary Morgenstein: Continuum this Friday, June 7 at 10:00 pm.
Join us. Thanks again everyone.
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