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Dylan McDermott of American Horror Story: Asylum

Interview with Dylan McDermott of "American Horror Story: Asylum" on FX 12/13/12

Final Transcript
FX NETWORK: American Horror Story: Asylum
December 13, 2012/10:00 a.m. PST

Roslyn Bibby-Madison
Dylan McDermott

Moderator Welcome to the American Horror Story: Asylum teleconference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later we will conduct a question and answer session. As a reminder, todayís call is being recorded.
I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Senior Facilitator, Ms. Roslyn Bibby.

R. Bibby Hi, everyone. Before we begin, Iíd like to quickly thank Dylan for taking the time to be with us on the call today. He turned in such a fantastic performance last season on the show and we look forward to seeing your work, Dylan, this go around. Thank you, journalists, for your unwavering support on a weekly basis with your recaps. We really do appreciate you.

A very important note here; the next two original episodes of American Horror Story: Asylum that would have aired next week Wednesday, December 19th, and the following week, December 26th, will be on hiatus. Then the show will resume on Wednesday, January 2nd, with Episode 10. So, Steven, with that, letís go ahead and open it up.

Moderator Our first question will come from the line of Michelle Alexandria with Eclipse Magazine.

M. Alexandria I actually wanted to ask you what is the strangest thing that has happened to you on set, or personally, from doing this show.

D. McDermott Well, I mean if you watched all the episodes, you know that Iíve had to do some strange things clearly, but I was part of the ride when I talked to Ryan [Murphy] about this show. Obviously the cry baiting and walking around naked, and now Iím playing a serial killer, is all in terms of doing American Horror Story, this is what comes with the dinner. So you just have to be up for it.

M. Alexandria This is a show that really stretches your acting abilities and part of your personal fear factor. Is there any one fear that you would like to try to conquer by doing this show?

D. McDermott Well, I think if you had any fears walkingóyou better not have any fears walking into this show because all your personal things are public. So I think that you really have to be not too shy to do a show like this, let me just put it that way.

M. Alexandria Then can you tell me a little bit about your character and where you hope he ends up at the end of the season.

D. McDermott Well, ĎJohnny Thredson,í obviously heís a troubled man; so where I hope he goes and where he goes are two different places, but I think heís got a sole purpose in life and really that is, he feels so scorned by his mother. Everything is about his mother. The reason heís doing all these horrible things is because he was rejected so harshly by his mother, obviously aborted. His father was a serial killer. His mother aborted him and he still lives. So his whole trajectory in life is really about her.

Moderator Our next question will come from the line of Greg David of TV Guide Canada.

G. David Can you just give us a breakdown as to how you got involved in this show again? Were you looking to come back and what happened? Did Ryan give you a call and say, listen, Iíve got this sick, twisted character that I want you to play?

D. McDermott Yes, we talked in the summer and he said he was looking for something for me to come back. I wanted to come back and we werenít sure in what capacity. Then the day the show aired, he called me and said he wanted me to come back as the son of ĎBloody Face,í the modern day ĎBloody Face.í He just told me; I hadnít read any of the script, so I knew nothing about it. It was sort of a blind call.

When he told me the story of it, I was just like flabbergasted. I mean, I couldnít getóbecause it was just so horrendous how this guy would survive and what he would become and who he was. I was just fascinated by him. It was so different from, obviously, ĎBen Harmon,í to come back to this same show with a different character. I just thought it was a great way to make television completely different from anything you see on television, because when do you get to play different characters on the same show.

G. David Without giving too much away, can you tell us how many more episodes youíre going to be appearing in?

D. McDermott I will be, I believe, in the next three out of four.

Moderator Our next question will come from the line of Ethan Alter of TV Without Pity.

E. Alter Because youíve been through this once before with Ryan, when you came back, when you made the decision to come back, were there things that you talked about with him about specific things you wanted to do this time around, to make this character distinct? Did you have a lot of input in shaping how you wanted this character to be?

D. McDermott I mean he reallyóheís the one who designed the character. Then we talked at length on how he would look and what we wanted. We came up with this mullet idea and the tattoos and how Iím really a blue collar guy as opposed to the psychiatrist of ĎBen Harmon.í So I think we were both looking to do something radically different than we had last season, but this was, once again, Ryanís invention.

E. Alter Right; and at least in your first appearance, you were sort of off on your ownóyou didnít interact with the rest of the cast. So it is interesting how the cast now is made up of some holdovers from the first season, who came back, and also all new actors. Did the veterans talk to the newbies at all about working, doing this kind of show, whatís involved in doing it?

D. McDermott I mean, I think you know what youíre stepping into when you just see four minutes of this show. You understand that this is a very dark, twisted world. So when you come on this show, whether youíre a guest star or a regular or whatever, you know what youíre getting into.

E. Alter Yes, and obviously itís early yet, but would you see yourself coming back for the third series, if Ryan came up with another big idea for you?

D. McDermott Yes, I mean I love this show. I just think itís just reallyóif I wasnít on the show, Iíd be watching it; so Iím a fan of this show as much as an actor on the show. So whateverólike I said before, I really trust Ryan and he has a great instinct with me. If he asks me to come back on, of course.

Moderator Our next question will come from the line of Kristyn Clark of Pop Culture Madness.

K. Clark I know you had mentioned some thoughts on the issue with the role and storyline, Iím wondering if there are any other characters whose storylines that youíve been like really following this season? Are you curious to see how they kind of pan out?

D. McDermott Yes, I mean, itís funny because I was really following Zachís [Quinto] character and Sarahís [Paulson] character and itís funny that they would end up being my parents. Because I had no idea and then all of a sudden, Iím their son. So itís funny that it would all work out in such a way.

K. Clark What would you say is one of the biggest reasons that this show seems to resonate well with viewers, at least in your opinion?

D. McDermott Itís a funny thing. I think that people, as much as they deny it, they want to be scared. Itís sort of a phenomenon, really, why people want to be scared when there is so much violence in the world and thereís so much craziness in the world. People still really enjoy being scared.

Itís a conundrum to me. Itís hard to explain. Itís an unconscious thing, really, why people like that so much. I donít like the slasher stuff myself, but I do like the psychological horror of Roman Polanski and that world. But itís curious to me why people do like to be afraid.

K. Clark Oh definitely. This psychological stuff is all the more terrifying I think.

D. McDermott Yes.

Moderator Our next question will come from the line Jerry Nunn of Windy City Times.

J. Nunn I want to know what made you audition for the show in the first place and how did you get involved in it? Did you know it was going to be a hit? Things like that.

D. McDermott Itís funny; you only have these instincts every once in a while and I remember on The Practice, I had a huge instinct around it that it was going to be very successful. Then again, when I heard this story of American Horror, I had a similar instinct about this show. I remember my agent pitching me the idea for it and I, immediately, was attracted to it. Like I said, I had this similar instinct. So when I sat down with Ryan, it all came to fruition, you know what I mean.

Like I said, I neveróIíve only had those instincts very few times in my career and The Practice and the American Horror Story were both of them. So I donít know what that is. I donít know if itís just my gut. My gut was really telling me that this was the show because I was looking for something different and looking for, obviously, a show that was going to be successful and that was going to resonate and I think I found it with American Horror.

J. Nunn Definitely; I mean congrats on everything.

D. McDermott Thank you.

J. Nunn Come visit us in Chicago and promote these new movies youíve got coming out.

D. McDermott Iím from Chicago. Chicago is the most amazing place because the portions of food there are bigger than anywhere else in the world.

Moderator Our next question will come from the line of Christiane Elin of SciFi Vision.

C. Elin I just wanted to knowóI know much of this show is very twisted and dark. Is there anything that resonates with you in this show that you take home and itís hard to shake?

D. McDermott Yes, I mean there are a lot of things. There are a lot of things in this show that are disturbing and hard. There is a lot of violence in this show and itís hard to get around that, you know what I mean, and itís real. It makes you feel things and itís upsetting; but nonetheless, as an actor, you canít judge it.

You have to be in it. When Iím playing a serial killer, Iím in it. Iím not judging him. Iím not judging his environment. Iím just sort of like looking for the why; why he is the way he is. But thereís no doubt that you have to takeóif youíre a good actor, youíre going to take this stuff home with you.

C. Elin Do you have a favorite type of horror story?

D. McDermott Iím really, like I said before, I do like the Polanski stuff more than anything else. I mean, Rosemaryís Baby is still one of my favorite movies of all time. The idea of her being impregnated with the devil and all that stuff is just like so frightening and being in New York at The Dakota, itís so scary.

So that probably isóIím going to work on a movie, actually, in February, called Mercy from Jason Ö on the paranormal activities and there is a similar theme to Rosemaryís Baby in the movie. So somewhere I am attracted to that in a strange way, so that does scare me; the sort of demon baby, more than anything else. Like we had in the first season of American Horror.

Moderator Our next question will come from the line of Erin Willard of

E. Willard I loved your work so much last year and this year has certainly started off with a bang. Is the atmosphere any different on the set this year than it was last year?

D. McDermott Iíve sort of been in a bubble of my own work; but it doesnít feel that much different than what it was. Some of the crew is the same and going back to Paramount in Hollywood and Ryan; so to me, really, the show is like going home at this point. I think in whatever capacity and whatever character I play, it really is. Right now I know itís sort of strange to say, but itís sort of this safe home for me, if you will.

E. Willard Sure. Last yearís story had this wonderfully, neatly tied up ending, at least for most of the charactersófor yours especially. Does this yearís have a similar kind of closure to it?

D. McDermott Yes, without giving anything away, I think it does. I think that youíll be satisfied in terms of what happens. All the characters will definitelyóyouíll have closure with all the characters. Itís hard to wrap up the season in one show, but I think that having read it and now performing it, I think that youíre going to be satisfied for sure.

E. Willard Then what has been the most fun aspect of this yearís role for you?

D. McDermott I think because itís so radically different from last year. Playing the psychiatrist role, a white collar guy, and going to a blue collar guy whoís a serial killer and has these enormous problems with his parents and the way he feels. I think thatís been fun to play, for me, personally. The idea of diving into his past and creating this guy, this sort of like wounded person who is just lashing out at the world; so I refer to both of these characters in American Horror Story as twin brothers with a different father.

Moderator Our next question will come from the line of Stacy Roberts of

S. Roberts Is there anything you can tell us about whatís coming up in the next three episodes that youíre in?

D. McDermott I mean, I think weíre going to look into whatóhe really is after some sort of closure with his mother. I think he canít understand, he canít wrap his head around why someone would want to throw him out, throw him in the trash. So I think weíre going to peek into his psychological world in the next three episodes and then weíre going to have closure with his character in the finale. But itís reallyóit goes into the psychology and the pathology of who he is.

Heís not just like a serial killer and out there on the run with no reason. I think we really get into the reason of ďJohnny Thredson.Ē People behave badly and people are in prison and people are on death row and there are no excuses for everybodyís behavior, but most people are coming from abuse. I think ďJohnnyĒ is not alone in that. I think he just really suffers from an enormous amount of abuse and thereís a reason heís doing the things heís doing and thatís not justified, but weíre going to peek into his world.

S. Roberts Youíve had a lot of shocking moments on this series. What would you say is the one that stands out most for you?

D. McDermott Well I think for everybody, itís got to be the cry baiting. I think you would agree on that. People still talk about that. Thatís going to be with me for awhile. Thatís okay because that was ďBen Harmon.Ē If people were afraid to play ďBen HarmonĒ because of that scene, peopleóthey just couldnít do it. I always picture myself the guy running into the burning building, not running out. That was certainly evidence of that moment right there.

Moderator Our next question will come from the line of Diane Morasco of Morasco Media.

D. Morasco I have to ask since you like psychological thrillers a lot, like the whole demon baby aspect, would you ever consider doing the remake of Rosemaryís Baby?

D. McDermott No, because thatís a great movie. I donít think you canóitís like remaking psycho. You canít. Some movies you just canít remake and that certainly is one of them. Some things should be just left alone and thatómaybe the sequel to Rosemaryís Baby, but not the remake.

D. Morasco Do you have a preference? Do you prefer taking on the drama role or do you prefer the straight-lace ones or do you like this outlet of being crazy bananas?

D. McDermott Well, this has been a good year for me. I was doing American Horror and then going into The Campaign with Will Ferrell and Zach Galifianakis doing a comedy and then making Olympus Has Fallen with Morgan Freeman and Melissa Leo, Aaron Eckhart, Gerard Butler, a sort of a taut thriller; and then playing a comedy again with Selena Gomez in Behaving Badly, and then back to American Horror. So itís been a great year and a lot of different characters and thatís the stuff I love. I really am a character actor in my heart of hearts, because I really do like developing characters and kind of painting a past for them.

D. Morasco My last question is when weíre delving into this serial killer and weíre looking back into the history on why heís behaving this way, is there anything thatís creeping you out that youíre taking home after the set, that youíre feeling a little unnerved about or maybe coming into your dreams?

D. McDermott Itís funny because this particular roleóyou donít know it when itís happening because itís unconscious. But, yes, this guy has got under my skin a little bit, I have to say. Like I donít take the tattoos off; I keep them on. I sort of have been living with him a little bit more than other characters that I have played. You donít plan that out; it just sort of happens. Itís an unconscious thing and for whatever reason, I have an understanding of who he is. Donít ask me why. Itís just that some characters stick more than others.

Moderator Our next question will come from the line of Michael Gallagher of

M. Gallagher What do you think is the most underrated aspect of American Horror Story? Is there anything about the show that you think deserves a little more praise from the T.V. critics?

D. McDermott I think itís widely praised. I think that sometimes people are afraid of the genre and maybe theyíll judge it. Itís sort of like The Walking Dead, I think deserves to have more nominations and deserves to be up for more awards and somehow I think the genre maybe gets in the way of that; that people dismiss it, maybe a little bit more, because of the genre.

But if you look at American Horror Story and you look at Walking Deadóand these are two phenomenal showsóand I think maybe other shows might get more nominations or awards because theyíre sort ofóthey fit the notion of what a drama should be. These are groundbreaking shows. I think American Horror is a groundbreaking show and ahead of its time. Sometimes when things are ahead of its time, people donít always get it in the moment.

I think thatís happening right now. You look back on things and say oh, wow, that was a great show. Sometimes people maybe miss it; not to say that they are missing it, but I think sometimes this idea of horror is hard for people. Itís not for everybody, but I think itís hard for people to wrap their head around in terms of awards.

M. Gallagher If you were giving awards out to the cast and then based on the performances that youíve seen, is there a particular scene or an individual performance that really stands out as being powerful?

D. McDermott Oh, yes. I think that, obviously, Jessica is always doing incredible work. It never ceases to amaze me how the performances she turns in week-in and week-out, but I also think that Sarah Paulson is doing terrific work. I think ďBilly DeanĒ Ö is doing terrific work and Zach Quinto and Evan Peters. I mean this season, theyíre allóJames Cromwellóeveryone is doing remarkable work on a very high level, and last season as well. I mean Ryan, obviously, is casting some of the best actors in the world to be on this show and thereís a reason for it.

Moderator Our next question will come from the line of Lisa Steinberg of Starry Constellation.

L. Steinberg Are we sure this is Dylan McDermott and not Dermot Mulroney?

D. McDermott No, itís Gerbil McDillett.

L. Steinberg Thatís right. That was a very good tribute to you on Saturday Night Live.

D. McDermott Thank you.

L. Steinberg I was wondering if there is anything about this particular character that you added to the role that wasnít originally scripted for you?

D. McDermott Yes, youíll see him in, I think in the next episode, I started smoking some crack. I donít think that was in it. I wanted him to beóI needed him to have an outlet for it and then when I started smoking crack, they started putting it into scenes. So that was an important thing that I wanted him to be high because a lot of these guys are high and a lot of people do, obviously, terrible things on drugs. It was important for me to have him to be a drug addict as well.

L. Steinberg What do you think it is about American Horror Story that makes it such a fan favorite program?

D. McDermott I think itís different. I think, like I said before, itís groundbreaking. Itís hard to be different on television. It really is because people do, no matter what they say, they want to have ratings and a lot of those things are derivative. So really the same show with different actors, over and over again, and I think that American Horror really broke that trend in many ways and I think fans appreciate that.

Moderator Our next question will come from the line of Ryan Turek of

R. Turek So, two questions; one, how much of a rush was it to put on that ďBloody FaceĒ mask? Also, youíre a big Polanski fan, were there any maniacs or twisted individuals from Polanski that you kind of drew from to kind of inform your ďBloody FaceĒ character?

D. McDermott Not really, no. Obviously, when you put that mask on and you can hear your own breath, itís like a mini-horror show inside your own head. So thatís frightening in itself, when that thing goes on. I twittered a picture of myself with it on against a wall that said, ďBeware,Ē and I have a machete in my hand and itís truly a frightening picture. But no, this guy he came to me very naturally. Like I said before, sometimes you have to search for inspiration with characters and other times, they just drop out of the sky and they arrive and ďJohnny ThredsonĒ was one of those for me.

Moderator Our next question will come from the line of Earl Dittman of Wireless and Digital Journal.

E. Dittman Iím just so excited. You know when the season started and I didnít see you there, I thought, oh my god. I know that Connie wasnít back, of course, but I thought, oh my god, I canít believe - no Dylan. So this is great news. Iím just so happy. Iím glad Ryan is such a brilliant guy.

D. McDermott Yes, absolutely.

E. Dittman So for an actor, it must be really satisfying to have something like a repertory theater kind of company kind of thing going on with television and it must be really satisfying for you.

D. McDermott It really is because I donít know how the show is going to pan out in the next few seasons, but if this was all there was in this whole ride; it was an incredible ride. I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed playing ďBen Harmon,Ē how selfish he was and his breakdowns and then to come back as ďJohnny ThredsonĒ to play this serial killer, you donít get to do that much on television. Most of the time, youíre walking around with a pair of tweezers and a flashlight, looking for some evidence. But itís nice that weíre doing something different on the show and that I was a part of it.

E. Dittman Well, you mentioned that in some of your work this year, of course, you were in one of the best pictures of the year, The Perks of Being a Wallflower. Thatís one of the top three films of the year, as far as Iím concerned.

D. McDermott Thank you.

E. Dittman Itís already on my list. I mean itís fantastic and Stephen is a fantastic director. Everything, everybodyóitís another thing like this. Itís a great, all around package. So I think you have a better nose or a better ear or a better eye for picking material than you give yourself credit for.

D. McDermott Oh, thank you. Thatís what itís all about is really material. Thatís the only thing thatís going to separate you from other actors is the material that you choose, whether you know that are not. Youíre going into a project; you know that the material is good or bad no matter what anybody says. I mean we all hope itís better than it is, but you have to pick the best material. Sometimes we donít have the luxury and people have to pay the rent, but I think that I try to choose the most interesting material there is.

E. Dittman Yes, and one last note; since we asked a whole lot of questions about that, I just wanted to focus a little bit more on your choices. I mean, youíve been making some great choices, obviously. Youíre working with Antoine Fuqua, I think, that you just mentioned. Also, I guess the question I need to ask is that you said youíre a character actor, but I think youíre a stunning leading man as well. Do you prefer doing leading roles as opposed to character? Or is just whatever comes best, as you said, a best material?

D. McDermott Itís funny because I, like I said, I think in my heart of hearts, Iím a character actor, but the leading man thing is, obviously, the great ride if you can do it. But itís a very tough ride as well, because you really have a target on your back and not many guys can pull it off. They seem to rise and fall very quickly. Luckily, Iíve been around many years, knock wood, and Iíve got to play many leading men and I got to play character roles.

I mean, I still love it is the bottom line. You know what I mean? I still love acting. I really enjoy the process of it and Iím glad I still do because a lot of guys out there who are just kind of doing it without the love. I do still love it.

E. Dittman Well, I appreciate youróoh and before because I know somebody is behind meóbut I heard a little rumor that there may be - might be a Practice movie, T.V. movie. Was that just wishful thinking on somebodyís part or have you actually heard anything about it?

D. McDermott Iíd never heard boo about that.

E. Dittman Okay, it must have been somebodyís wishful thinking. I appreciate it and I hope you come back next year and more this year and thanks, Dylan, for your time.

Moderator Our next question will come from the line of Eva Layne of

E. Layne I was wondering if you worked at all, directly, with Zach Quinto on your characterization of the son ďBloody Face,Ē or if anything you watched him do prior to the season informed choices that you made as a character?

D. McDermott I kind of just watched him and picked up a few of his mannerisms. There is one scene coming up where weíre in the same room. I guess in the writerís room, they put up a picture of me and Zach and Sarah to see if I could be their son, when they were casting it. I guess I passed the test, but I think that we do have some similar qualities in our darker features, so I donít think itís much of a leap. But I did kind of try to listen to his voice and look at his mannerisms a little bit.

E. Layne Also, on a prior call with Zach, he mentioned the nature of the horror this season as opposed to last season. That last season being primarily supernatural and then this being, obviously, more human driven between you guys being the main thrust of that human driven horror. So I was wondering what you think about the difference between the paranormal and the more human driven horror and if you prefer one or the other.

D. McDermott I mean I like the psychological horror personally. I think the show is radically different from what it was last year and what it is this year and Iím sure it will be again next year. I think thatís just what American Horror Story is. It really is an anthology series and I think itís always going to be changing, no matter how many seasons itís on. I think itís going to change its location and character and I think thatís just the nature of the beast.

Moderator Our next question in queue will come from the line of Perri Schwartz of Spin Off On Line.

P. Schwartz I have a question for you. The scene where youíre talking to this therapist, that set looks a lot like your office from Season 1. Was that the same set? Or am I just going crazy?

D. McDermott People have mentioned that. Itís not the same set, but youíre right. It does have a similar mood and theme to it. Itís funny enough that youíre not the first person to say that. I think thereís an image to many things in that scene, obviously. The first being the reversal of the doctor and the patient and then maybe the office looking very similar, so there are many things going on in that scene. So if you did an essay on it, I think you could find a lot more.

P. Schwartz All right; maybe it was just wishful thinking hoping that weíd seen Murder House again. My other question for you, youíve mentioned that youíre more a fan of the psychological horror than the slasher genre, which is sort of what weíre doing this season. Iím just curious what type of horror genre would you be interested in seeing Ryan explore next season.

D. McDermott Iím not sure. I mean, I donít know how many genres of horror there are really, but Iím sure heís going to make it interesting and fascinating no matter what he does.

Moderator Our next question in queue is a followup from the line of Stacy Roberts of

S. Roberts On a non-AHS note, what did you think of the Saturday Night Live bit from this weekend?

D. McDermott They asked me to go there and do it, but I was working on American Horror. I thought it was hilarious. I mean I really thought it was funny as hell, so I donít know what was going to happen if I came there and Dermot was there. I mean the television might blow up; I donít know. But I really thought it was funny and how many times do you really get to be immortalized on Saturday Night Live. You can look at that and show your kids that and theyíll laugh, so I thought it was really funny.

Moderator The last question in queue at this time is also a followup from the line of Earl Dittman of Wireless and Digital Journal.

E. Dittman Two quick questions; you mentioned earlier that this show obviously doesnít follow, as you mentioned, the awards. I think youíre very right. I mean, FX has Sons of Anarchy. It has this. It has Justified. Do you agree that maybe in another networkís hands, it may not have been as successful? That FX isóto me, FX is a very groundbreaking, revolutionary network in itself. Do you agree? Disagree? Kind of going along the same way, would this have worked on another network maybe just as well, or not?

D. McDermott No, because Iíll tell you why. I think FX really lets the creators of their shows do what they want to do. A lot of times on television, it is a television show by committee and the committees get their hands in there and they want to do this and they want to do that and they want to change this and they want to do this and all this stuff, and the show is completely watered down and itís generic. It doesnít have any meaning. Itís just sort of on-air. You know what I mean?

But I think the difference with FX is they really let the creators sort of create their show and they stand behind it and they put it on the air and they publicize it and they let them be. I donít think that they really put their fingers in it too much. I think thatís why they have so much success.

E. Dittman Yes, would you like to work with them more in the future if you had the chance?

D. McDermott Oh, of course. I think they do phenomenal shows and they continue to do phenomenal shows. They really are quite different from all the other networks and thereís a reason why they stand out.

E. Dittman One last thing and then Iíll let you go. So by doing the show, obviously you donít subscribe to the thought that by watching violent TV shows get violent because of it. What is your stand on that? I mean, often thatís what the critics say about violent shows.

D. McDermott Yes, I know what you mean. I mean, I really, as I said before, I think thereís an argument for that absolutely. But as an actor, you canít judge your material or your character. I really try toóI learned in acting school a long time ago not to judge my characters because that could Ö of them once you judge them.

So I play a lot of different people; some of them good, some of them bad, some of them violent, some of them nice, all across the board. Thatís the fun of it for me, but I do think that youíre right. There is an argument for it and I wonít shy away from that either. I mean there is a tremendous amount of violence in the world and itís something that has to be addressed and this is entertainment and it shouldnít be taken seriously in that way, but I understand what youíre saying.

Moderator There are no further questions in the queue at this time to panel. Please continue.

R. Bibby Again, thank you, journalists, for your questions and for those who are in listen mode. Thank you, Dylan, for your time and participation. A transcript from this call will be available one to two days following today. So Iíll send it as soon as I receive it. Thank you guys and have a nice day.

D. McDermott Thank you very much.

R. Bibby Thank you, Dylan.

Moderator Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our conference call for today. On behalf of todayís talent and hostess, Iíd like to thank you for your participation and thank you for using AT&T. Have a wonderful day. You may now disconnect.

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