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By Suzanne

Eddie McClintock and Saul Rubinek

Interview with Eddie McClintock and Saul Rubinek of "Warehouse 13" on Syfy 7/17/12

These guys are always hilarious together! I didn't make this call, but I'm sure it was wonderful.

Moderator: Gary Morgenstein
July 17, 2012
12:00 pm CT

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen thank you for standing by. Welcome to the SyFy conference call Warehouse 13.

During the presentation all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Afterwards weíll conduct a question-and-answer session. At that time if you have a question, please press the 1 followed by the 4 on your telephone.

As a reminder, this conference is being recorded Tuesday, July 17th, 2012.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Gary Morgenstein. Please go ahead sir.

Gary Morgenstein: Welcome everyone. Warehouse 13, SyFyís highest rated series in history, returns for its fourth season Monday, July 23rd, at 9:00 pm, and weíre delighted to have the boys of the Warehouse to talk about it. Eddie McClintock and Saul Rubinek. Hi guys.

Saul Rubinek: Hi.

Eddie McClintock: Hey. Whatís up?

Gary Morgenstein: All right. (Chelsea), put forward the first question please.

Operator: Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Jamie Ruby with Please go ahead.

Jamie Ruby: Hey guys. Thanks so much for doing the call. Itís great to talk to you again.

Saul Rubinek: Hey Jamie. How are you?

Eddie McClintock: Thanks Jamie.

Jamie Ruby: Good. So can you kind of talk about the artifacts weíre going to see this season?

Saul Rubinek: Itís really hilarious how you guys ask us the one question that we canít answer. You know that weíre going to have to spoil everything if we start talking about this.

I can tell you this though,

Saul Rubinek: Our show is not called Giant Chasm in the Ground 13, itís called Warehouse 13, so obviously theyíre going to figure out a way to bring the Warehouse back. But weíve had artifacts. Weíve know that thereís a downside to using them. There are always consequences. And what the writers decided was that there had to be some consequences that were irrevocable. There were consequences that would be so dark that - so it that it wouldnít just be easy.

So, ďOh, theyíre dead. All right. We have an artifact for that.Ē ďThe Warehouse is gone. We have an artifact for that,Ē so everything becomes easy. Itís not going to be that easy. And whatever we use will have consequences for the life of this - of the characters and for the life of the series.

So thatís what I can tell you is that the use of artifacts becomes a darker and more dangerous and less takebackable thing than ever before. Would you say Eddie thatís true?

Eddie McClintock: Yes. And not necessarily that it changes the show totally, but certainly there will be fallout from the use of artifacts that we cannot take back. You know, that stay with everybody. The change, it changes everyone permanently.

But from week to week you still have fun ones
Saul Rubinek: Yes.

Eddie McClintock: ... and it stays light.

But definitely like Saul said, we donít want the show to become predictable, so you have to be able to know that we canít just fix everything every time.

Jamie Ruby: Right.

Saul Rubinek: Thatís right. Yes.

Jamie Ruby: Right. Right.

And I really loved the premier by the way. It was awesome.

Eddie McClintock: Oh, thanks.

Jamie Ruby: Can you talk about maybe some of the guest stars that are coming up?

Saul Rubinek: Yes. Well Lindsay Wagner comes back. Rene Auberjonois comes back. Kate Mulgrew is back. Where else do we have...

Eddie McClintock: I already spilled the beans.

Saul Rubinek: About?

Eddie McClintock: I spilled the beans about everybody.

Eddie McClintock: Are we - so are we allowed to say Gary?

Saul Rubinek: Well, the Brent Spinner...

Eddie McClintock: What about (Jane)?

Saul Rubinek: Hello?

Gary Morgenstein: (I know he can say).

Eddie McClintock: Whatís that Saul? What did he say?

Gary Morgenstein: Itís Gary. Thatís it.

Eddie McClintock: Sorry. Sorry.

Look up some of the interviews I did at Comic-Con and you can find out.

Gary Morgenstein: Thank you Agent Latimer. Thank you very much. Yes.

Eddie McClintock: I'm like Joanne and I are like, ďOh, well weíre having this person, and this person.Ē

Gary Morgenstein: Yes. Yes. Yes.

Eddie McClintock: Then we walked outside and Gary goes, ďOh, by the way. Donít tell who weíre having as guest stars.Ē So the ship has sailed as it were.

Jamie Ruby: Okay, well thanks. Sorry.

Eddie McClintock: All right. Thank you Jamie. Nice to talk to you.

Jamie Ruby: Nice to talk to you.

Operator: And our next question comes from Erin Willard with Please go ahead.

Saul Rubinek: I donít know yet.

Eddie McClintock: I'm doing all right.

Eddie McClintock: I really had a blast.

Erin Willard: It was fun. You had a good time this year?

Saul Rubinek: Of course. Yes.

Eddie McClintock: For some reason I've sat at the Light Speed table - this is my fourth year, and I sit and sign and meet people that come by. And this year was, Saul, Sunday you werenít there, but Sunday was just unbelievable.

You know, it just feels like thereís been a shift in regards to the visibility of the show and the popularity of the show. Itís a good feeling. We worked really hard. Jack Kenny works really hard. We all do. And to see that the people are really responding is what itís all about. So I had probably the best Con that I've had.

Saul Rubinek: Well...

Erin Willard: Thatís so great. Thatís so great. Well, and itís earned obviously.

How do you feel about the longer season this year?

Saul Rubinek: Well, theyíre really two seasons. Itís really a real vote of confidence from the network and the studio to do that with us. Thatís how we felt.

I mean, itís a little harder I would say on those of us that have kids, and Eddie is farthest away. I donít live that far away because I'm in New York and my kids are older, so itís a mix. A little different. My daughter is in college and I can get back. Thatís the hardest thing for Eddie, right Eddie? That longer season?

Eddie McClintock: Yes. If my boys and my wife could be in Toronto with me all the time, it would be much, much easier. Itís a quality problem. I'm on a show thatís been on the air for four years now. I'm making a living as an actor in Hollywood in arguably one of the darkest times in the American economy, so I really have no complaints except Saul is the only one.

Saul Rubinek: Other than me.

Eddie McClintock: Saulís my only complaint.

Erin Willard: That sounds fair enough. Thanks guys.

Operator: And our next question comes from the line of Kyle Nolan with Please go ahead with your question.

Kyle Nolan: Hi guys. Thanks for taking the call.

Eddie McClintock: Sure.

Saul Rubinek: Our pleasure.

Kyle Nolan: So usually the scenes between you guys are pretty light and fun, but near the end of this season premier thereís a very dramatic scene between Pete and Arnie. What was it like doing a really heavy scene versus like what you're normally doing?

Eddie McClintock: Well for me, itís always great to be able to work with Saul - and unfortunately, we donít get to do it as much as we would like. Not to blow too much smoke here for Saul, but I have such a great deal of respect for his work and the way he approaches his work, that anytime that I can be a part of that, I think it makes me a better actor and I think my work is better.

The opportunity to really do something serious with Saul - itís those moments for me that make all the moments of tedium worthwhile. I do all the other stuff and I love the other stuff as well, but it seems like the one you're talking about - ones that actually move me, I donít have to work up emotions for those scenes. Saul is present; I'm there, the writingís good, and things just happen.

Not to be too trite, but thatís the magic of what we do I guess.

Saul Rubinek: Thanks Eddie for that. I think that weíre a team. Over the last four years weíve really become a team. Weíre like a family. Itís not like we donít have bumps with each other like any family does, but we have certainly one of the best crews in Toronto, and I know that because I'm a Toronto actor from way back and I know Toronto crews.

Weíre a show that other crews envy because thereís no prima donna. Thereís just hard work and a lot of fun, a lot of which is because Eddie really keeps things light and entertaining. I call it his buffoonery. But itís true and we do have a wonderful time together.

Eddie McClintock: Why are you laughing when you say that?

Saul Rubinek: I think that you'll find that might be a common denominator for shows that work is that when there is that team and that mutual respect and fun thatís going on and everybodyís working together, the work is fairly easy.

Weíre especially blessed because Jack Kenny - our show runner is available to be on the set with us. He used to be an actor. Heís incredibly collaborative. If things donít fit in our mouths the way that they were written on the page, things are changed. We get to improvise a little bit, and weíre extremely lucky.

Well, I did. Yes. Thatís an example of how things are on the set with Eddie all the time.

When we do serious stuff together, itís fun, itís quick and itís easy, and we donít do it enough. The way the showís tracked out this particular year, we had less to do with each other than even before, so weíre hoping thatíll change. But we have a great time together. I'm sure thatís obvious from watching the show.

Kyle Nolan: Yes, and speaking of the humor, like the things like such as the tivoing and the one-liners in the premier, is all of that scripted, or do you guys do a lot of improvisation when you're...

Saul Rubinek: Well, I would say itís about 50%, right?

Eddie McClintock: Just to be exact on what I consider improv to be, I would never just say a line arbitrarily during the scene without first running it by Jack. Because a lot of times, Jack will go, ďNo. You will not say that, but you can say this.Ē

I go to Jack and like Saul said - a lot of the stuff Jack will see or heíll hear something and heíll go, ďTry this.Ē And itís like a sitcom in that, Jack actually comes in and punches up between takes. And what I mean by that is when you do a sitcom and you do the take for the audience, and then the writers come rushing in and they say, ďOkay, this worked. This worked. This didnít work, so now I want you to say this instead.Ē

As we move along, we get to see what works and what doesnít. And again, thatís just a testament to how hands-on Jack Kenny is in regards to his baby, Warehouse 13.

Kyle Nolan: Thanks guys. I'm really looking forward to the rest of the season.

Eddie McClintock: No, thanks man.

Saul Rubinek: Thank you.

Operator: And our next question comes from the line of Joshua Maloney with Niagara Frontier Publication. Please go ahead.

Joshua Maloney: Hey guys. Thanks for your time today.

Eddie McClintock: Joshua.

Saul Rubinek: Nice to be here.

Joshua Maloney: A lot of times when shows are successful, as your show is successful, I find that Ė the sort of the creative team, they kick it into cruise control, and thereís nothing really exciting or challenging for awhile. But your show has really ramped it up considerably in the past few episodes and looks like itís continuing in that direction.

How exciting - how rewarding is that for you guys as actors?

Saul Rubinek: Itís an extraordinary thing. At a certain point it becomes the biggest character I've ever played and itís quickly become probably the best character with the most range because of all the episodes and all the different things the writers are asking of us.

There is something that I think is called series-itis that you have to be careful of. Itís incredibly exciting. First of all the positive and I'll tell you what the dangers are, given the fact that I'm a very old man whoís been doing this for 40 years or so.

Eddie McClintock: Very old.

Saul Rubinek: Very, very old.

Whatís exciting is that the audience is connected with us. We have tremendous support from the studio and the network. Itís very rare in any actorís career that you're doing a show that is the Number 1 show in the history of that network. Thatís rare, and weíve held on to that since the very beginning. Itís a testament to the writing and the family that weíve created.

And the fact that audiences I believe are watching - this is what I'm really proud of, because both Eddie and I are dads. Weíre the only dadís - or parents of the actors right now, right? Families watch this show together.

Eddie McClintock: Right.

Saul Rubinek: And I'm really proud of that. People that watch American Idol or shows like that. There are very few shows that are in this hour long category that audiences can watch with their family. Thereís something for everybody over the age of 11 or so. And dads and moms and grandparents donít get bored, and the kids are still delighted, and thereís great stuff. So thatís what makes me really proud.

The danger is when you're doing a show you know a lot, for actors doing any series, is that the test is not how quickly the crew can get home and how quickly you can do things, although we do want to do that. Is you really have to keep challenging yourself in a series. You have to keep things alive.

Operator: Okay. Our next question comes from the line of Crystal Taylor with Please proceed.

Crystal Taylor: Hi these are going to be for Eddie because I was at the table that you sat down and got yanked away.

Eddie McClintock: Oh, cool. Oh.

Saul Rubinek: I wonít be able to talk to that. All right.

Crystal Taylor: Yes. So I'm not ignoring you Saul.

Saul Rubinek: All right.

Crystal Taylor: You can jump in if you want, but we did get to talk to you.

All right, our question is weíre always - we always hear actors say how they create back stories for their characters before they start and everything. So I was wondering if you did that, how has the character changed from what you thought he might be? Or if you havenít done that, how has the - you know, has the character surprised you at all?

Eddie McClintock: Well, I can tell you the biggest parallel that I think - between myself and my character - when we started this years ago, the character of Pete, if you remember in the pilot, he has a one-night stand with some girl he just met. He kind of gives her the boot, you know, he gently suggests that she go because heís got to get to work. And, it turns out his work is to guard the President.

So I think we see that, he doesnít take his job all that seriously, and I think heís a little overly egocentric. Heís pretty wrapped up in Pete. Heís a recovering alcoholic, so even though we donít know that, itís kind of a classic condition of the recovering alcoholic which I'm well aware of because itís me.

As weíve gone along and as heís made these relationships and cultivated these relationship with the people that he now calls family, I think he has realized that the world doesnít revolve around him and heís better served to feel that the world revolves around the protection and care of his family.

You know his father died when he was young. His mom and him werenít that close. She kept the secret that she was a Regent from him.
The parallel being when I started the show, my wife and I just had started having children. Before that, Lynn and I did things for ourselves. And we realized, and especially now that my boys are five and six, just everything that I do is for my boys really, except for when I buy Prada shoes.

Eddie McClintock: Itís really for the boys. But I think Jack always smacks me for doing that. I would say that I have grown - I have become less selfish. Itís become more about my boys and my family, and I think that thatís kind of the journey that Pete has made and continues to make.

I always look to Pete as a way to be a better man. The way Jack Kenny has written him, heís so honest and so unjaded, and such a pure guy. He comes from such a place of pure joy that I just hope that it rubs off on me.

Crystal Taylor: Yes, good.

With things being so collaborative between you, the actors or the writers, is there anywhere you would like to take your character that hasnít been done yet?

Eddie McClintock: The only thing that comes to mind is I'd like for us to meet Peteís sister to get to know what their relationship is. I'm always just along for the ride and I have such a great deal of trust in the writers and in SyFy to take the show and in whatever direction they see fit. I wouldnít say that I have a particular direction that I want Pete to go in. I like the direction heís going in, and I think itís in many directions at once.

Crystal Taylor: Okay. Thank you very much.

Eddie McClintock: Thank you. Sorry I missed your table.

Crystal Taylor: Oh, I know. I know. It was a madhouse. But you know...

Crystal Taylor: volunteered to do individuals with people and that impressed me.

Eddie McClintock: Yes, sure.

Crystal Taylor: Absolutely impressed me.

Eddie McClintock: Anything I can do to help the show, you know.

Crystal Taylor: Yes. Thank you.

Eddie McClintock: Of course.

Crystal Taylor: We feel the same way.

Eddie McClintock: Thank you.

Saul Rubinek: Thanks.

Operator: And our next question comes from the line of Stacy Roberts with Please proceed.

Stacy Roberts: Hello guys. Just like everyone else, thank you so much for doing this call.

Saul Rubinek: This is our pleasure.

Eddie McClintock: Stacy Roberts, weíre doing the call.

Stacy Roberts: You've got - the season premier is amazing and there are a lot of shocking moments. What was it like for you guys to read that script?

Saul Rubinek: It was really exciting. Really, really exciting. But what we got to do a lot of working in front of a green screen where we have to imagine. We had a big screening with the cast and crew a couple of Sundays ago and we got to see it.

And on a big screen it was kind of awesome because the special effects looked so great. And a lot of it we were just in front of a green screen with no idea of what it was going to look like, so that was pretty exciting for us to see.

Eddie McClintock: When you take a television screen formatted show and you blow it up onto a movie theater sized screen, it can be scary because you think, ďOh, okay. Maybe we need to go back down.Ē Because you know, a lot of times you see the flaws.

But like Saul said, the show looks huge. The special effects department does such an amazing job with the time and the budget that they get. Theyíre just crunched every week because we have a lot of effects. Certain shows are more effect-laden than others, but I'm really proud of the premier episode. I canít wait to see the rest.

I'm as anxious as the fans because I have no idea once we do the show and move on to the next show, I forget the previous show. I'm just not smart enough to retain - like Allison. She remembers every line of every show sheís ever done. I forget my lines after I move to the next scene. So I'm almost seeing them for the first time just as the fans are.

Stacy Roberts: And weíve seen Pete and Myka change bodies. What would happen if Pete and Artie changed bodies? How would you guys like do each other?

Saul Rubinek: Heís put me on a plan - a weight loss plan immediately and I'd be in shape.

Eddie McClintock: I'd go out cruising chicks.

Saul Rubinek: Thatís a good idea. Weíll suggest it. See what happens.

Eddie McClintock: Yes. Yes.

Saul Rubinek: Itíd be pretty weird as he starts giving people orders and nobody realizes itís Pete.

Eddie McClintock: Exactly.

Saul Rubinek: And nobody takes me seriously. I've got great ideas. I look like Pete and Myka doesnít take me seriously at all. It would be a disaster.

Eddie McClintock: ďMyka, I want you to go to the store and buy four whoopee cushions.Ē ďI wonít do it Artie. I wonít do it.Ē

Saul Rubinek: Thatís what would happen. Yes, itíd be hilarious.

Stacy Roberts: Thank you very much.

Saul Rubinek: Sure.

Eddie McClintock: Thanks guy - or one gal.

Operator: And our next question comes from the line of Ian Cullen of SciFiPulse. Please proceed

Ian Cullen: I want to ask Saul first of all, you're going to work with Brent Spinner again this year.
Saul Rubinek: Yes. Yes, it was great.

Ian Cullen: Itís an adversarial thing again isnít it Saul? You're kind of like the good guy this time and Brentís kind of like the not-so-good guy.

Saul Rubinek: Yes. I'm not going to tell you exactly what happens, but it does - the whole nemesis thing was great. Weíve even put some clues in for our fans that relate to us having done The Most Toys. Some lines of dialog that suggest that weíve worked together before, so thatís fun. Itíll be fun for fans to figure out.

It was a great season for me because I got to work a lot with Brent. We got to renew our friendship because we live in different cities now. And we started off actually in the theater together. We did a play in New York together in 1979, and the reunion was when we did the Star Trek TNG was in í89. It was ten years after that and here we are, wow, 22 years after that. It was awesome. We had a great time.

Eddie McClintock: When you did the play in í79, was that by candlelight?

Saul Rubinek: Thanks Eddie. Yes, gaslight.

Saul Rubinek: Okay.

Ian Cullen: And a quick follow-up for both of you. Is there going to be a Christmas episode this year?

Saul Rubinek: No, there wonít be because weíre doing 10 and 10. Thatís whatís going on with the show. So yes, thatís how that works.

Ian Cullen: Oh, thatís a shame. I've enjoyed the heck out of both the Christmas episodes that you guys have done.

Saul Rubinek: Yes, he had fun with that. Yes. Yes, they were fun.

Eddie McClintock: Yes. Well this last yearís was I thought it was one of the best episodes of the whole series.

Saul Rubinek: Yes, it was beautiful. It was really beautiful. It was a great episode. It was a way for all of us to get back together, the whole idea of Itís a Wonderful Life. It was really, really cool. We really enjoyed it.

On the other hand you donít usually have us after weíre done at the end of August. You donít see us again until July. Youíll have us again in April, so thatís a cool thing.

Ian Cullen: Yes. Okay, well thanks a lot guys for doing the show. I'll continue to watch.

Saul Rubinek: Thank you so much.

Eddie McClintock: Thanks for that.

Operator: And our next question comes from the line of (Tim Halquin) with TVovermind. Please proceed.

Tim Halquin: Hi guys. Itís really nice to get to speak with you today.

Eddie McClintock: Thanks (Tim).

Saul Rubinek: Oh, our pleasure.

Tim Halquin: I've been a fan from the beginning and I would say that thereís been a progression of the show getting more serious, and I know that Eddieís pushed for that. Specifically you know, calling his own character slightly fluffy in the beginning. And I havenít seen the premier yet, only previews, but it seems very intense, and it seems to ratchet up the darkness dial a little bit especially for Claudia.

So can either of you speak to that - will that be a new tone that sort of prevails this season, or is that just in the beginning of the seasons and it kind of just balances out in the wash?

Eddie McClintock: I know that as Joanne was saying at Comic-Con, and I thought it was well put, she said that weíre still painting with all the colors that we were painting with before, but weíve added a darker color.

So itís not necessarily that the show has taken a shift tonally, but there are these great consequences. The fact that H.G. Wells is dead. The fact that Jinks is gone. The Warehouse is gone. Mrs. Frederick is gone. We have to deal with that.

And to come back from that and be jokey and ridiculous, it just wouldnít make sense. It all seems disrespectful to the show. And again donít get me wrong; Pete is still using his comedy to protect himself from the fact that he is devastated by the loss of his friends.

Saul, what do you think?

Saul Rubinek: Yes. The show is definitely darker.. As I told you, there are tremendous consequences to bringing the Warehouse back, which is what will happen. Thatís not going to be a spoiler. People arenít going to be shocked by that.

We always have tried to maintain a balance between the humor of the show and you really donít know from one second to the next where the jokes are going to come. Thatís still true.

No matter how dark we get, thereís going to be lighter moments. We donít take ourselves that seriously. But on the other hand, weíre not so light so that weíre just fluff. And I think people care enough about these characters and see all these different sides to them that we can stretch.

On a fourth season of a very successful show, it wouldnít be outrageous for the writers, the studio, and the network to say, ďPlay it safe. Weíve got our core audience. We donít want to mix things up too much.Ē But what happened is that they stepped it up.

I think you'll see this season that they have taken some chances. I donít know yet whether all those things have paid off. They seemed to when we were doing it. You donít know until the show gets air. I can tell you that certainly in the premier it paid off big time.

Theyíve taken tremendous chances. The writers, the producers, executives have all decided that weíve earned the right - that Jack has earned the right and the staff has earned the right to raise the bar and to stretch things a little bit, and that our audience will go with us. We think thatís true.
And so, thatís whatís happened to us. We worked really hard - extremely hard this season because we were given stuff to do that had not been required of us for three years.

So thatís what I can say without spoiling things for people. I hope the fans are the recipient of that kind of risk taking.

Tim Halquin: Saul, I'm an especially giant fan of yours. I grew up loving your work, so it is a great honor to talk to you. And I know that - thank you for taking the time. I know that itís been an emphasis - a focus of yours to carry that family friendliness, and I think itís especially remarkable that as the show - itís almost like the Harry Potter series where your fans have sort of grown into the seriousness of the show. As you said, itís earned the right.

Because you would think the family-friendliness of it might drop away as it gets a little darker and serious. But actually, I think thatís whatís helped it - as Eddie said at the - itís gotten a renewed growing audience that just loves it all the more.

I havenít seen the premier, as I mentioned, so I donít know. Is this a one-time guest appearance for Brent, or is it a multi-episode arch?

Saul Rubinek: Itíll be a multi-episode arch. Thatís been announced. And much more than that I canít tell you.

Eddie McClintock: Six.

Saul Rubinek: Is it six? Yes, so there you go.

Eddie McClintock: Yes.

Tim Halquin: Okay. Thank you very much.

Saul Rubinek: Sure.

Eddie McClintock: Thanks man.

Operator: And our next question comes from the line of (Brian OíNeal) with Syfy Stars. Please proceed with your question.

Brian OíNeal: Hi Eddie and Saul. Great to talk to you again.

Saul Rubinek: You too.

Eddie McClintock: Hi.

Brian OíNeal: A question I asked last year, and I'll - a similar question to what I asked last year. I know Garyís watching you guys like a hawk. Without getting too specific, what episodes in the upcoming season that you've already filmed and so forth do you see as being important either to yourselves or your characters that we should be on the lookout for?

Saul Rubinek: Go ahead Eddie.

Eddie McClintock: You know as I said earlier in the interview here, I mean I hardly remember what we did - I'm serious. I was very proud of some of the stuff that I did in the premier, and I remember feeling some pride along the way. So specifically, I'm sorry. I'm not really sure. Maybe Saul, you can enlighten me.

Saul Rubinek: Well, we canít be too specific. You know, this is whatís happened for everyone. Every single character has to call on resources that they didnít know they had because things are less certain than they ever were. And things that you've thought were for sure and people that you could count on for sure, you canít anymore.

And as a result, all the characters have to grow in order to survive. And thatís true for all of us. Specific moments we canít tell you about without spoiling it for you, but as we talked about earlier, weíve earned the right. Maybe our fans will tell us that we havenít, but I hope that the reviewers and that you guys will say, ďYes. You know, weíre glad you took chances. Weíre glad you didnít rest on your laurels. Weíre glad that things have stepped up.Ē

I'm trying to think of any of the characters that - even our recurring characters that have not grown this season by dent of the terrible circumstances that they find themselves in and their consequences.

Allison was talking about this. If there was going to be a theme for this ten episode arch it would be consequences I think. Itís great for us and great for the fans that in the fourth year what couldíve been a procedural that had a great premise and couldíve been the artifact of the week and that couldíve been fun. It was never that. Never that. They always took chances and the chances are even deeper now. I think thatís the best I can say without giving stuff away.

Brian OíNeal: Right. Yes, I know itís hard, but thank you anyway.

Saul Rubinek: Sure.

Eddie McClintock: Thanks (brother).

Operator: And our next question comes from Robin Burke with FanGirlConfessions. Please go ahead.

Robin Burke: Hi guys.

Eddie McClintock: Robin Burke?

Robin Burke: Thanks for talking to me.

Eddie McClintock: Hi.

Robin Burke: Yes?

Saul Rubinek: Sure.

Robin Burke: I actually have a question about some of the crazy gadgets and the artifacts, and itís a different question. Do you have a favorite gadget or artifact? And if you could invent one, what would it be?

Eddie McClintock: My favorite artifact has to be Abe Lincolnís hat. When Pete put it on he had an uncontrollable urge to free Mrs. Fredrick. I just thought that was...

Saul Rubinek: It was hilarious.

Eddie McClintock: ...brilliant and I loved the fact that we can say things like that without people freaking out about it. Because weíre able to show that we come from a good place. That gives me hope - in humanity.

If I had to create an artifact, I've always said that it would be Janice Joplinís back stage pass from Woodstock. The holder of the artifact could travel through time to go to any concert that has ever been. I could go to see the Doors and Black Sabbath, and Led Zeppelin, and all the bands that my dad turned me on to when I was a little kid but I was never old enough to go to the shows.

Robin Burke: That would be awesome.

Saul Rubinek: Thatíd be a cool one. That would be really good.

I've said the same thing for a couple of seasons, which is that I want to have an artifact that actually tells the true numbers of the audience Nielsen ratings that weíre actually getting, because I can tell you that itís probably three times what theyíre saying it is because otherwise, the advertisers would have to pay a lot more.

Robin Burke: Sure.

Saul Rubinek: I know from the people that stop me whether I was in France or I was in England, or all over the United States where I've traveled, and always in the past itís been different movies I've done. Whether itís True Romance or Frazier, or Unforgiven, but now itís always Warehouse 13 95% of the time. And the ages of the people are from 10 to 80, and, my daughter is in college. Nobody watches television in college anymore. They watch their computers and...

Robin Burke: Right.

Saul Rubinek: ...theyíre still watching commercials. And they have to do that.

So I think that, you know, theyíre saying weíre being watched by three million. I think itís over twice that, so I'd like that artifact. Thatíd be good.

Robin Burke: That would be nice.

Saul Rubinek: Yes.

Robin Burke: All right, thank you guys.

Saul Rubinek: Thank you.

Eddie McClintock: Thank you.

Operator: And we do have a follow-up question from Joshua Maloney with Niagara Frontier Publication. Please go ahead.

Joshua Maloney: Yes, guys, just a quick follow-up. You know, we do a lot of conference calls with guest stars, and you know we have our good experiences and bad experiences, but you know I would say to a man, everyone says that they enjoy coming and working with you guys. That itís a great cast. You know, very hospitable.

But you know Eddie, you in particular are always mentioned as really making the trip worthwhile, and I'm wondering why do you suppose that is? What are you doing with these guest stars that it makes it so much - you know, a fun time for them?

Eddie McClintock: Oh, wow. Well, thatís a great compliment, thatís really nice to hear. I really wasnít aware of that.

Eddie McClintock: I've done probably 60 guest spots on 27 different television shows, so I know how uncomfortable it can be and how difficult it can be to show up on a show that is already established. Itís basically like showing up at somebodyís door with your sleeping bag and going, ďI'm going to be lying in your living room eating potato chips in my underwear for the next seven days, so I hope thatís cool with you.Ē

Like weíve said before, we work 15, 17 hours a day. There are dynamics on the set that as a guest star you donít know about. You donít know whoís feuding with whom, and whoís sleeping with whom, and what...

So for me, itís just I love to try and make people feel comfortable. I think it makes for a better work environment. I think it makes for a better show. And, itís just the person I am. I'm always so thrilled to see people come on the show. And I'm just so proud. ďReally? You want to do our show? Our little show? You want to be on our show?Ē So, I'm always flattered that they want to come and work with us.

Joshua Maloney: Great. Thank you.

Eddie McClintock: Thanks.

Operator: And our next question comes from the line of (Nichole Didas) with Please go ahead.

Nichole Didas: Hi guys. How are you?

Saul Rubinek: Hi. Weíre good.

Eddie McClintock: Hi.

Nichole Didas: This question is for Eddie. We know that you're an artist and I thoroughly enjoyed your work on Puscifer album. This past year there was a Warehouse 13 (unintelligible)...

Eddie McClintock: On the Puscifer album?

Nichole Didas: Yes.

Eddie McClintock: Oh, cool. Are you a fan?

Nichole Didas: I am a fan. I love them. (Unintelligible) is amazing. He is a God.

Eddie McClintock: Look in the - if you have the hard copy of the ďVĒ is For Vagina, if you look in the - where the CD goes into the sleeve thereís a little hidden message in there.

Nichole Didas: Oh, I'll have to pull that out and check it out.

Eddie McClintock: That no one knows about. All right.

Nichole Didas: Thank you.

Eddie McClintock: Sure.

Nichole Didas: All right. Well this past year there was a Warehouse 13 comic book that came out. Would you ever have any interest in working on a comic based on the show?

Eddie McClintock: Yes. That would be the day that I actually saw myself as a comic book character, thatís a dream come true. Thatís just another tick off the bucket list for me.

I was a huge Marvel Comics fan as a kid. I loved The Hulk and I was a big Spiderman fan and Fantastic Four. So to see myself as a comic book character, how cool is that? And now they just turned Pete into a statuette. QMX created a statuette.

So - and Saulís next. Artieís next.

Saul Rubinek: Yes.

Eddie McClintock: So yes, absolutely. I would love to collaborate on something like that.

Nichole Didas: Awesome. Well hopefully you can one day. Thank you.

Eddie McClintock: Thanks.

Operator: And our next question is with Janice Kay from Please go ahead.

Janice Kay: Hi gentlemen.

Eddie McClintock: Hi.

Janice Kay: I was wondering - hi. I was wondering what is the most challenging thing you've done so far this season?

Saul Rubinek: Go ahead Eddie.

Eddie McClintock: Itís just to not gain 30 pounds from the chocolate chip cookies that Craft Services bring in. I mean, every day theyíre bringing hot chocolate chip cookies after lunch, so you know in regards to being...

Saul Rubinek: Really funny.

Eddie McClintock: Thatís a big...

Saul Rubinek: Yes. I'm on Weight Watchers. I want to lose 50 pounds over the next year or so. Itís incredibly difficult. I've been struggling with that as a person for all my career. The shows can be really challenging to do, so I want to be healthy. So, thatís the biggest challenge.

And the biggest challenge for Eddie and I, and we talk about this, is being good dads. My kids are 21 and 17, but still being a good husband and being a good dad, and trying to balance your career, thatís the hardest thing for us.

Eddie McClintock: Yes.

Saul Rubinek: All the rest of its fine. I can talk to you about stretching the character and all the chances that we take. But look, we have one of the best jobs in the world. By the time I got this job I was concentrating much more on writing and directing. I was not expecting this at this point in my career, to get such a great job on a television series, let alone one that was going to be a hit.

But the consistent factor is trying to be a good partner to my wife and a reasonably wise and not idiotic dad, which I am occasionally. And to make sure that my kids get into the school that they want to get into and be able to afford it. Thatís the struggle for most of America, isnít it? And thatís what itís about.

I'm the old guy on the set and I want to set a good example, knowing my lines. For being there on time. For being a good support for everybody.

Itís one of the things Eddie and I just talked about. Being a star on a television show or being a leader of any kind, one of the things I've learned all my life is that itís not about how other people support you; leadership is about how you support everyone around you. Thatís the quality of leadership, and itís the hardest job.

Janice Kay: Cool.

Janice Kay: Do you - Saul, do you find yourself as the father figure on the set?

Saul Rubinek: Yes, sometimes I am. Sometimes I'm an idiot dad. But sure. I am certainly recapitulated for Allison and thatís how it was set up is in a sorcererís apprentice, and the mentor, and the sorcerer, and sheís had to grow and change. And, Artieís had to let go of his father role with her. Thatís been an important part of the show.

Eddie McClintock: And often times find it comforting to nestle in Saulís ample bosom.

Saul Rubinek: Yes, he does that on a regular basis. Itís very sweet. I try to keep him away from me as often as possible, but you know - heís a very needy guy.

Eddie McClintock: I'm very hands-on. Very hands-on.

Saul Rubinek: Very hands-on. Yes.

Eddie McClintock: Letís just say that.

Saul Rubinek: Male or female, it doesnít matter to him.

Eddie McClintock: Thatís right.

Janice Kay: Well, thank you.

Saul Rubinek: All right.

Eddie McClintock: Sure.

Operator: And I do have a follow-up question from Jamie Ruby with Please go ahead.

Jamie Ruby: Hello again.

Saul Rubinek: Hello.

Jamie Ruby: So I would like you each to describe each otherís character in three words.

Eddie McClintock: Each otherís character?

Saul Rubinek: Any three words.

Jamie Ruby: Yes.

Saul Rubinek: Oh, I can just tell you that Pete is a man-child. There. There. if you want it in three words.

Eddie McClintock: Pete is a man-child. Thatís five.

Jamie Ruby: Yes, thatís more.

Saul Rubinek: Okay. Well, there you go. A man-child.

Eddie McClintock: Watch me. Watch me do three.

Saul Rubinek: Artie is a...

Eddie McClintock: Grumpy. Sleepy. Dopey.

Saul Rubinek: Okay, excellent.

Jamie Ruby: Okay.

Do - both of you, do you prefer like the dramatic scenes over the comedic scenes? Or, do you just like the blend?

Saul Rubinek: Yes. The blend is what makes the show.

Eddie McClintock: I like the blend.

Saul Rubinek: The blend is amazing. Everybody will tell you that. I think thatíll be true of any series that you see. I mean, actors want to change things up.

Listen, if Breaking Bad and Dexter werenít also funny they wouldnít be hits, would they? And the actors love it. All actors love it. They want to change things up. They want fast turns. They want to be able to stretch. They donít want to get bored.

Jamie Ruby: Sure.

Eddie McClintock: Although, I have to say that I found that a lot of actors, theyíre afraid of comedy. Theyíve come out and said it, and then I can see the fear in their eyes. I think that, actors maybe they fear it, and I do too. No one wants to fall on their face. I donít have a whole lot of fear, and a lot of times it does well for me and sometimes it backfires. So I donít know why I got off on this tangent, but there you go.

Jamie Ruby: Thatís okay.

Is there anything - I donít know - I know you canít tell us specifics, but is there something that you're looking forward for fans to see this season that you can, you know, talk about without giving away too much?

Saul Rubinek: Well, itís hard isnít it, to not give away stuff when you say look forward to. I think they look forward to the unexpected - itís been every season weíve said that. I remember the very first Comic-Con that we were at I said, ďYou know, every series is like the writers, the producers, the executives are sitting there saying, Is this our show? Is this concept our show? Is this a Warehouse 13 idea?íĒ And I said, ďThe minute that they figure that out would - weíre screwed, because then we will be a procedural.Ē

I challenge anybody to figure out what this show is going to be from one episode to the next. You really donít know. Theyíre going to look for an artifact thatís got some downside, but thatís about all you know. You donít know which way itís going to go or how itís going to - and neither do we. And I think that I want our fans to continue to say take chances.

I'm absolutely positive about this. They are going to be shocked this year. Our fans will be shocked.

Gary Morgenstein: We have time...

Jamie Ruby: I was shocked already by the premier, so...

Gary Morgenstein: We have time for one more question (Chelsea).

Eddie McClintock: I can say this. Cowboy hat, clothes pins, Harley Davidson motorcycle, bunless leather chaps.

Saul Rubinek: There you go. Good luck with that.

Jamie Ruby: Okay.

Gary Morgenstein: Thank you. And on that note our time has run out.

Saul Rubinek: All right, guys.

Gary Morgenstein: Thank you Saul. Thank you Eddie.

Eddie McClintock: Love you Saul. I love you Gary. Bye guys. Thanks to you guys out there.

Gary Morgenstein: Bye-bye.

Eddie McClintock: All right, bye-bye.

Gary Morgenstein: Bye.

Saul Rubinek: Bye everyone.

Gary Morgenstein: (Unintelligible) July 23rd at 9:00 pm, Warehouse 13 returns. Thank you everyone.

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