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By Suzanne

Sons of Tucson cast

Interview with Tyler Labine & Justin Berfield of "Sons of Tucson" -FOX 3/8/10

This is a new show on FOX Sundays after "Family Guy". You can read my review.  I hope it works out for these guys. Tyler Labine is a good actor and has been on many good shows like "Invasion" and "Reaper".  Justin Berfield played the older brother in "Malcolm in the Middle".

FBC PUBLICITY: The Sons of Tucson Conference Call
March 8, 2010/1:00 p.m. EST


Justin Berfield
Tyler Labine


Moderator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Sons of Tucson conference call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later we will conduct a question and answer session. Instructions will be given at that time. As a reminder this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Tra-Mi Callahan. Please go ahead.

CallahanHi, itís Tra-Mi Callahanfrom Fox, and welcome to the Sons of Tucson conference call with executive producer, Justin Berfield, and series star, Tyler Labine, who plays Ron Snuffkin on the show. Thanks for joining us this morning and just a reminder that Sons of Tucson premieres Sunday, March 14 at 9:30/8:30c on Fox, and Iím going to go ahead and get this call started. Greg, you can take over.

T. LabineItís serious business.

J. BerfieldI know.

T. LabineCrazy, man. Ö

Moderator: Your first question comes from the line of David Martindale from Hearst newspaper. Please go ahead.

D. Martindale: Hi, guys. Thanks for doing this call. I enjoyed the pilot.

T. LabineThank you.

D. Martindale: Tyler, good question for you. An actor once told me that one of the things he looks for in a good character is an interesting name. He said that if heís got a character thatís got an interesting name or a weird name heís halfway home in figuring out what his characterís all about, and I was thinking with a name like Ron Snuffkin, is there anything to that theory? What do you think?

T. LabineYes, absolutely. I agree. I wouldnít say halfway home with a name, but it definitely inspires you to sort of delve into the character a little bit. With a name like Ron Snuffkin immediately a few nicknames spring to mind, like snuffleupagus, snuffís enough, canít get enough of the snuff. You just think in little self-referential nicknames, and it sort of lends itself to you figuring out the character, of being a little bit Ö, little bit neurotic. Yes, I guess thereís a little something to that, but I wouldnít say half the work was done.

D. Martindale: Okay, fair enough.

T. LabineItís definitely a nice tab to grab onto in the beginning.

D. Martindale: There you go. What was it about the show and the premise and the character that blew your skirt up and made you want to do it?

T. LabineWell, initially, it was obviously the writing and then the name as we just went over, but the writing for the pilot was great, and it definitely grabbed me right away, and obviously, the character is an amalgam every sort of great slacker character that Iíve ever played, that Iíve loved to play and have never been able to flesh out and turn into a three-dimensional character, and these guys have taken that sort of character and put him right in the forefront and made him a real human being. I really appreciated that, so I grabbed onto that right away, too.

D. Martindale: Cool, well, Iím going to let some other people ask questions, but itís been a pleasure. Thank you.

T. LabineGreat, thanks, man.

Moderator: Your next question comes from the line of April MacIntyre from Monsters and Critics. Please go ahead.

A. MacIntyre: Hi, guys. Thanks for your time.

T. LabineHi, no problem.

J. BerfieldHi.

A. MacIntyre: I enjoyed the pilot as well, and Iíve got to understand how did the kids dole out the money? You negotiate a $400/week salary or $350 depending on whoís paying. How do they have the money? Explain that to me.

J. BerfieldWell, we donít really say for sure exactly how they have the money, but in our minds we sort of figured that they have a stack of cash that they have somewhere in the house that as they need it they go out and disperse it for whatever needs they have.

T. LabineWhat Iíve always put together in my head is that the dad in an attempt to sort of keep his kids out of foster care or social services when he was in jail for this white collar crime was clever enough or stupid enough to leave his children, yes, exactly as Justin just said, a big stack of cash so they can stay out of trouble and go to their house in Paloma Ridge or in Tucson Ö.

A. MacIntyre: Tyler, kids are annoying, and so youíre working for three kids, and whatís even worse and annoying kids is when they have that over you that theyíre your boss, theyíre your overlords. Which one of the three is the most annoying to your character, Ron Snuffkin?
T. LabineDefinitely Gary, the middle kid, heís like, and this isnít saying that wives everywhere are annoying, but very typically heís the counterpart to Ron. Heís sort of the wife or Iím the wife. I donít know what the Ö exactly because itís very confusing, but definitely weíre butting heads the whole series. Yes, power struggle with a 13-year-old, lots of fun.

A. MacIntyre: Excellent. How many episodes are we going to see for the first season?

J. BerfieldItíll be 13 including the pilot.

A. MacIntyre: Excellent. Iíll come back. Thank you.

T. LabineOkay, thank you.

Moderator: Next, weíll go to the line of Nadya: Ö from Please go ahead.

Nadya: Hi, good morning guys, or afternoon. Thanks for coming on the call. Ö we got to watch the pilot as well. It was pretty funny. Tyler, this questionís for you. Aside from the financial incentive, youíve already mentioned about the money that Ronís going to get from the boys and itís the unconventional proposal that they offer him, but it attracts Ron, and what is it that attracts Ron aside from the money into agreeing to the situation and sticking with it for as long as he does?

T. LabineThatís a good question. I think initially, yes, the money is the big allure, but then I think itís money only, actually. Thereís nothing deeper about Ron wanting to go join with these kids and help them out. Itís just the money, and he thinks itís going to be temporary as well, but I think the allure of future money coming in is the thing that keeps him there, and then there are times with Ron I think this sort of reluctant paternal figure sort of starts to take shape in Ron, and I think he starts to learn from the boys, and he starts to sort of feel needed from these children what he hasnít had in his life. He hasnít felt that anybody really needs him for anything. I think that could become a big draw for him, too, and also just a place to stay.

Nadya: Now, itís seems like Robby, Gary, and Brandon, theyíre pretty smart kids, and theyíre quite young. What nuggets of knowledge will Ron try and instill in the boys, sort of a reciprocal relationship in that way?

T. LabineWhat sort of knowledge am I going to try and instill in the boys?
Nadya: Yes.

T. LabineI donít know. I think Ronís a bit of a dummy. Well, heís not a dummy. He just may not have the most sage words of wisdom for these kids, but thatís what Iím saying. I think itís this sort of reluctant responsibility. Itís this reluctant father figure thing thatís coming out of Ron that I donít think he even really knew that he had. He doesnít really, I donít think he even recognizes when he is being quite responsible, and itís hard to pick out moments that are actually responsible in the show because, like I said, itís sort of like the blind leading the blind. Itís basically them just trying to stay out of physical harm, so anything else that helps them out is sort of gravy, the bonus. I donít think Ron is capable or set to impart any wisdom on these children.

Nadya: Following up on that, we have stealing money from kids, trying to con an old lady, where does Ron draw the line, or does he even want to sketch one?

T. LabineI donít know. Justin, do you want to take one?

J. BerfieldI donít know if thereís really anywhere that Ron does draw the line.
T. LabineYes, itís definitely sad to say. Look at what heís doing. The only thing that keeps him from being completely despicable is the fact that he is sort of, as you get to know Ron and you get to know the boys, you see that maybe there is something inside of Ron thatís awakening thatís sort of enjoying this responsibility, but as far as where does he draw the line with what he won't do, I think as long as heís not going to kill anybody, as long as nobodyís going to get really badly hurt, heís up for it. Heís game.

Nadya: Thanks, guys. Weíll come back.

T. LabineOkay, thank you.

Moderator: Your next question comes from the line of Paige Wiser from the Chicago Sun Times. Please go ahead.

P. Wiser: Hi, guys. How are you?

J. BerfieldGood, howíre you?

T. LabineGood, howíre you?

P. Wiser: I wanted to ask about the recasting process because I remember watching it last fall. Justin, was that difficult? Did you change a whole lot about the pilot?

J. BerfieldWe actually didnít change too much with the pilot when we had to reshoot because of the recasting. It was just a decision that we made to go a different direction with some of the characters, but the pilot really remains the same. We punched up some scenes that we were fortunate enough to be able to do because we were reshooting, but nothing much really changed.

P. Wiser: Well, we love Matthew Levy because heís a Chicagoan.

J. BerfieldHeís a great kid.

T. LabineWe love Matthew Levy, too.

P. Wiser: What were you looking for in an oldest son?

J. BerfieldBecause we obviously needed one of the older kids to be the complete opposite of Gary whereas Garyís the driven, hard-edged type of guy, Matthewís character, Brandon, is he just sort of goes along with the flow. Heís like a lover, not a fighter. Heís very trusting, like a very trusting guy, his character.

P. Wiser: Is that how Matthew struck you in real life, or he just doing a great acting job?

J. BerfieldHeís a fantastic actor. He sort of resembles me. I remember how I was when I was a child actor. Heís constantly asking questions. Heís very curious about the whole process, and heís always hanging out with the crew, talking at them, seeing what they do, and asking questions. I guess heís very similar to Brandon in that sense. Heís a very curious guy.

P. Wiser: Has he surprised you in any way?

J. BerfieldIím not surprised. Just based on the casting process and talking to him through the whole audition process, heís a very professional, smart kid. We couldnít be happier with him.

P. Wiser: Thank you so much, guys.

J. BerfieldThank you.
Moderator: Your next question comes from the line of Steve Eramo from Sci-Fi and TV Talk. Please go ahead.

S. Eramo: Hi, Tyler. Hi, Justin. Thanks for your time today.

T. LabineNo problem.

J. BerfieldThank you.

S. Eramo: Tyler, I wanted to ask you first off if maybe you could tell us a little bit about your experiences shooting the pilot and maybe some of the challenges to stepping into this role initially for you?

T. LabineYes, shooting the pilot was amazing. It was so much fun. It was one of those instances where you get so much more out of the process than you expected. I learned a ton from working with these kids. It was amazing, and I learned sort of one of those very invaluable lessons is how to stop being such a thinking, like, in my head actor working with children. It was my refresher course. It was sort of just doing it. Someone just pushes you in and you swim. Ö unjaded and not so hypercritical of themselves, and you find yourself having genuine fun and really getting sort of authentic performances out of them, and itís infectious, and it was really, really fun to do with those kids. That was sort of my favorite thing about it. There were some downsides, but it was very, very fun.

S. Eramo: Justin, just a followup question for you, from a creative standpoint in your job with the show, what maybe have you enjoyed so far working on Sons of Tucson would you say?

J. BerfieldI think I just enjoyed because for so long just purely being in front of the camera you never got to see the whole process of developing an idea for a script all the way through to filming it, and for me just being to especially from the pilot where back in 2008 we were developing this little inkling of an idea and then just selling it, itís just been eye-opening for me. Iím just so excited to be part of something from the very beginning. For me personally for once, and I love the whole casting process because Iíve been in those rooms on the other end of the camera, and now I get to sit behind the camera and sort of make Ö

T. LabineJudge.

J. BerfieldYes, judge.
T. LabineWe love it.

J. BerfieldIt never gets old. A lot of the other guys are, like, weíll sit out this casting session. I want to be in every single one. I love the whole process.

S. Eramo: Good for you, thatís great. Listen, guys, thank you so much for your time and best of luck and success with the show.

J. BerfieldThank you very much.

T. LabineThank you.

S. Eramo: Take care.

Moderator: Your next question comes from the line of Suzanne Lanoue from TV MegaSite. Please go ahead.

S. Lanoue: Hi, thank you for taking our calls today.

T. LabineNo problem.

S. Lanoue: I was wondering how did the idea of the show come about?

J. BerfieldThe idea came up from our creators, Tommy Dewey and Greg Bratman. They brought this idea to us way back when, and we just sort of developed it from an idea to scripts. Finally, we took it to Fox because I had some relationships there obviously, and they purchased it from us. It was exciting. It was like our first scripted show that we sold as a company at J2, and we couldnít be happier with the people that weíre working with and the two guys that wrote it.

S. Lanoue: Thatís great. The idea, itís like what they used to call high concept, but it sounds funny just on the face of it. What show if you could find a show, a sitcom or whatever to compare it to from the past, what would be one pick?

J. BerfieldVisually and maybe tonally, everyoneís going to compare it to Malcolm, but I think story wise you canít really compare it to any show thatís been out there. Itís a truly unique concept, and weíre excited that Fox and everyone has a vision to see this through because on the face of it, it is kind of crazy. Itís kind of out there, but they were behind it from day one. Itís not really a concept that comes up too much in the show, and it sort of naturally weaves its way into every script, so itís not like if someone tunes in four episodes into the season that theyíre going to be lost. Itís really easy to catch up on it.

S. Lanoue: Right, and Tyler, you have a lot of fans out there who are science fiction fans because of the shows youíve been on. Anything youíd like to say to them?

T. LabineYes, donít expect any time traveling or demons in this show. Itís a little more straightforward than that, but like Justin said, the concept of the show, this high concept or whatever, itís a running theme on the show, but like he said, you donít need to know exactly whatís going on. It becomes more about just the relationship with this guy and these children than the actual sort of hook, I guess. Itís an easy show to just jump in and enjoy, but no flying, no demons.

S. Lanoue: All right, well, good luck with it. I hope itís a big success.

T. LabineThank you.

J. BerfieldThank you very much.
Moderator: Your next question comes from the line of Alice Chapman-Nugent from Times Courier newspaper. Please go ahead.

A. Chapman-Nugent: Hi, thanks, guys, for taking the call.

T. LabineNo problem.

J. BerfieldNo problem.

A. Chapman-Nugent: Tyler, I was wondering on the show what does Ron learn from the boys?

T. LabineWhat does Ron learn from the boys? I could create many things, but I think overall itís sort of this reluctant paternal figure starts to come and take shape in Ron that he really didnít know that he had, but I think he starts to relish it and starts to take sort of a bit of pride in the fact that he thinks he actually might be a pretty good dad, but Ö it just looks like a mess. Itís not exactly a Norman Rockwell painting. Iíll put it that way. Heís doing the best he can, but I think thatís the one thing he takes away the most is that maybe he actually is pretty good at this parenting thing.

A. Chapman-Nugent: What was it like on the first day of the set with the kids, and what was it like the last day of the pilot? Thatís for both of you, too, so you too, Justin.

J. BerfieldI think for us on the behind-the-camera guys for us the first day is the most stressful day of all because everything youíve worked for comes down to this one moment, and it all begins right then and there, and the last day, our situation is different because we had a chance to shoot the pilot, and then we got to redo it after some recasting, so I guess the first pilot when we ended it was sort of like a breath of fresh air. We thought weíd finished. Everything went well. Everything went according to plan, and from then on you just immediately, for us, you get one moment of a breath of fresh air, and then immediately weíre in editing, so it really didnít end for us until two months later.

T. LabineFor me it was excitement to start, and then when we finished it was elation. When we initially shot the pilot, I couldnít believe what we did. What did that in, Justin, eight days?

J. BerfieldYes, eight days.

T. LabineEight days from the initial pilot shoot and a very ambitious script and working with children, there were many potential pitfalls, and we seemed to jump over all of them and have a really good time doing it.

A. Chapman-Nugent: Thatís great. Well, thank you, guys.

T. LabineNo problem.

Moderator: Your next question comes from the line of Simon Applebaum from Tomorrow Will Be Televised. Please go ahead.

S. Applebaum: Yes, thank you. Justin, Iíve got two questions for you. Entertainment Weekly came out with their review of the show this morning. They liked it, and they used a term that was very interesting. They called it, ďnicely ratty,Ē your thoughts about that?

J. BerfieldI have not read that yet, but I think anytime Entertainment Weekly says something positive about a show, weíre extremely thankful for that.

S. Applebaum: That was a very unusual term they used.

J. BerfieldYes, but I have not even read that yet.

T. LabineNicely ratty?

S. Applebaum: Nicely ratty.

T. LabineIíll take it.

J. BerfieldYes.

S. Applebaum: Justin, one of your former co-stars of Malcolm in the Middle has done pretty well for himself. Iím a friend of Brian Cranston. Heís won two straight Emmy awards for Breaking Bad. Heís best actor in a drama, but heís also directed some episodes, and he won a lot of kudos for the second season opener last year. Some people thought it could have been nominated for an Emmy award last year for that. Heís doing the third season opener coming up later this month on AMC, and Iím wondering since youíre now behind the camera as executive producer, have you thought about directing episodes of the show?

J. BerfieldThe thought has not crossed my mind yet, but if weíre fortunate enough to have some success and come back for a few more seasons, I donít know. Why not? Maybe one of these days I would, but I have not thought about it yet.

S. Applebaum: How do you like being executive producer as opposed to or different from being in front of the camera?

J. BerfieldI like it. Theyíre both unique in their own ways, but Iím enjoying what Iím doing and where Iím at right now. Itís a whole new level of stress. Itís a different kind of stress, but theyíre both rewarding.

S. Applebaum: All right. Thanks very much, and good luck.

J. BerfieldThank you.

Moderator: Next, weíll go to the line of Danielle Turchiano from Starpulse. Please go ahead.

D. Turchiano: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the call.

T. LabineNo problem.

D. Turchiano: I actually saw the first three episodes, and I love your use of character actors, Kurt Fuller, Joe LoTruglio. Can you talk a little bit about some of the other guest stars you may have coming up and if those guys will be back?

J. BerfieldKurt is only in the pilot, and Joe is actually in, how many episodes is he in? Heís in at leastó

T. LabineHeís in five I think.

J. BerfieldYes, five. He comes back quite a bit. In the first three episodes, did you get to meet Sarayu Rao? Sheís in about five episodes as well, and she plays Joeís wife.

D. Turchiano: Yes.

J. BerfieldShe is an amazing actress.

T. LabineSheís hilarious.
D. Turchiano: Cool, and are we going to be seeing any of the family of the boys? Will we see the father in prison or maybe any family members that come out of the word work?

J. BerfieldNo one in the family the first season.

T. LabineThank God. Ö

J. BerfieldThatíd be jumping the shark pretty quickly.

T. LabineAlso, Alexander Breckenridge who plays my potential girlfriend, Gina, she pops in another couple times, and sheís fantastic as well.

D. Turchiano: Tyler, for you, Iíve read a couple of review kind of comparing you in this role to a Jack Black type. Is that something that you were doing maybe intentionally, or is that something that you just feel is kind of Ö?

T. LabineNo, I would never intentionally try to emulate another actor, especially not one thatís famous and famous for his shtick as Jack Black. I think itís a nice comparison. Iím a little tired of it because Iíve been acting for about 22 years, and Iíve sort of formulated my own sense of humor before I even knew who Jack Black was, and it just so happens that he got there before me I think. Itís a nice comparison. I could imagine being compared to a lot worse people, but if anything I tried very hard to buck back in the other direction, but this town likes to slap labels on people, and thatís the one Iíve been stuck with.

D. Turchiano: Sure. Great, thank you, guys.

J. BerfieldThank you.

Moderator: Your next question comes from the line of Mark Pattison from Catholic News Service. Please go ahead.

M. Pattison: Thanks, I have one question for Justin and one for Tyler, and both have to do with pedigree. One for Justin, I saw all three episodes, and looking at it, my wife identified it before I did even that there was a Malcolm-esque to Tucson, and then in reading Emmy Magazine last week, there was the list of the people who were working on both Sons of Tucson and had worked on Malcolm in the Middle and if you could talk about that pedigree. Tyler, you can think of some clever laughs for this one, but I think you once thought that you might be related to Leo Labine, the hockey player from the 50s and 60s.

T. LabineThatís correct.

M. Pattison: Whoever wants to take that first.

J. BerfieldYou can handle the hockey one obviously.

T. LabineMineís very, very short. Yes, Iím related to Leo Labine. I didnít know him, but our Ö show, Pete Dowd, heís a hockey fanatic, and when I first told him that I had a great-uncle who played in the NHL, he printed me off oodles and oodles and oodles of information about him, and it was pretty interesting. He was actually quite famous. He played with Bobby Orr, and they called him the hammer. Yes, he was actually a pretty influential hockey player. Ö battered and bruised, but yes, he was kind of awesome, and thatís all I know about Leo Labine.

M. Pattison: Okay, Justin?

J. BerfieldAs far as the Malcolm pedigree, I visually itís going to obviously look similar to Malcolm because of our fantastic director, Todd Holland. He directed the pilot of Malcolm. I think he directed 8 out of the first 26 episodes of Malcolm, so obviously, he set the tone and the look and feel of Malcolm in the Middle, but weíre not trying to recreate Malcolm in the Middle anyway. The reason why we brought a lot of the people from Malcolm is, especially when youíre working with kids, time is extremely important, and thatís a group of people that worked together for seven years straight, and they all know what to do and the timing needed to get it done. You canít say enough about that when youíre on a TV show with kids. You want everything to run as smoothly as possible because, especially with Ben Stockham who plays Robby, you only have him on set working hours like four hours a day, and if heís in three or four scenes, everything has got to be running smoothly, and so thatís why we brought on everybody from Malcolm, not only because theyíre the best if not some of the best in the business at their jobs, but because they all have a short-hand knowledge with each other, and they just work together great.

M. Pattison: Thank you, gentlemen.

J. BerfieldThank you.
T. LabineThanks.

CallahanWe have time for one last question.

Moderator: At this time there are no more questions.

CallahanExcellent. Well, thank you, everyone, for joining the call this morning, and a reminder that Sons of Tucson premieres Sunday, March 14 at 9:30/8:30 Central on Fox. Have a great day.


Tyler Labine is known for his recent turn on "Reaper" as "Bert 'Sock' Wysocki," the quintessential slacker who enthusiastically aided his best friend in the hunt for escaped souls from hell. Labine's other credits include "Invasion" and "Boston Legal."

Labine was born in Brampton, Ontario, Canada, but grew up in Vancouver. He began his acting career in local theater before moving on to a number of television roles in series such as "Breaker High" and "That Was Then." His film credits include "Flyboys," "Trixie," "Marine Life," "Antitrust," "My Boss's Daughter," "Mr. Rice's Secret," "The Zero Sum" and the made-for-television movie "Behind the Camera: The Unauthorized Story of 'Mork & Mindy.'" His upcoming films include "A Good Old Fashioned Orgy" and "Tucker & Dale vs Evil."

In 2004, Labine produced the film "Everyone," which won the Best Film Award at the Montreal Film Festival. He also executive-produced, starred in, wrote and co-directed the mockumentary "Extreme Walking."

Labine enjoys music as much as acting. He and his brother Kyle, as well as friends Jeff Gustafson and Ryan Robbins, comprise the hip-hop band, "Self-Dep." Labine is also an accomplished music producer and emcee.

Although he splits his time between Vancouver and Los Angeles, Labine remains close with his family, often enjoying snowboarding in British Columbia and vacationing at the family cottage in Ontario.


Justin Berfield has spent the majority of his life in front of the camera. At age five, he auditioned for his first commercial for Folgers coffee, and soon after, appeared in more than 20 national commercials. Berfield made his television series debut at age six when he starred as "Bobby Bowman" in "The Good Life" with Drew Carey.

Berfield is best known for portraying the role of "Reese," the wisecracking bully second child on FOX's Emmy Award-winning series "Malcolm in the Middle," which ran for seven seasons and currently is syndicated worldwide in over 52 countries. Prior to portraying "Reese," Berfield starred as "Ross Malloy" on the hit comedy series "Unhappily Ever After" for five seasons. Berfield also co-starred on "The Mommies" and "Hardball" for FOX, as well as several feature films including Disney's "Max Keeble's Big Move" and Touchstone's "3 Ninjas."

In 2004, Berfield formed J2 Pictures/J2TV with producer Jason Felts, where he created and executive produced several unscripted and scripted pilots and series for both broadcast and cable networks. Berfield has also produced several films through J2.

Berfield is also involved with Virgin Unite (the charitable arm of the Virgin Group) and Ronald McDonald House Charities, where he served as an ambassador from 2002-2004. He lives in Los Angeles.



When the Gunderson boys - Brandon, Gary and Robby - hire Ron Snuffkin to pretend to be their father after their real father goes to prison, they find out that there's more to their "fake" dad than meets the eye. Ron has to enroll them in school, convince Robby's teacher to keep him in her class, sweet-talk the principal, locate mint-condition toy soldiers at his grandmother's house and avoid a thug who wants his money in the "Pilot" episode of SONS OF TUCSON airing Sunday, March 14 (9:30-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX.

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