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Peter OíFallon and Jim Jefferies on "Legit"

Interview with Peter OíFallon and Jim Jefferies of "Legit" on FX 1/28/13

Final Transcript
FX NETWORK: Legit
January 28, 2013/10:00 a.m. PST

SPEAKERS
Stephanie Kelly Ė FX
Peter OíFallon Ė Executive Producer/Writer, Legit
Jim Jefferies Ė Executive Producer/Writer, Legit

PRESENTATION

Moderator Welcome to the Legit Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Instructions will be given at that time. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to our host, Ms. Stephanie Kelly.

Stephanie Hi everyone. Thanks so much for participating in todayís call with Legit co-creators and co-executive producers Jim Jefferies and Peter OíFallon. Jim is also the star of Legit, and it is loosely based on his stand-up routine and life. Without further ado, I wanted to open it up to Peter and Jim for questioning. If you have any questions at the end, we will do our best to accommodate follow-ups. Iím turning it over now, so thanks, again, for participating.

Moderator We have a question from Kyle Nolan.

Kyle Could you talk a little about how the idea for the series came about?

Peter Do you want me to start, Jim?

Jim Yes, you start.

Peter John Landgraf is a good friend of mine at FX. I worked with him before on the The Riches and a couple other projects in the past. I had lunch with him one day and I said I really want to do the comedy thing that heís doing, particularly the Louie model. At the time, he said go find me a comedian. Then I went to my agency, which was CA, and looked a whole bunch of different comedians and came up with Jim. We met a couple of times and watched almost all of his stand-ups and saw him do a bunch of stand-ups live and ultimately came up the idea for the pilot, which came directly from a stand-up, so thatís basically how Jim and I met together and figured out we could work it out.

Jim Sorry. Iíve got a cold.

Peter Jimís got a bad cold, by the way.

Jim Youíre going to hear that from time to time through the call. Yes, thatís basically it. There is not much more I could add to that question. The pilot episode was directly mixed out of my third DVD, Alcoholocaust, and a true story from my life about me taking a friend with muscular dystrophy to a brothel, so the way we came up with the idea is we just did true stories, I guess.

Peter The other thing, like with Jimís manager, Lisa Blum, who is also an executive producer on the show, we met with her andóI met with her alone and she said what do you thinkóand I said I think there is a pinprick of a heart in there. One of the things Jim told me after he did this stand-up, particularly the muscular dystrophyóthe thing about taking him to the hooker or the brothelóis that afterwards, parents, brothers and sistersóthose kind of people would walk up to him and say how can I do that for my brother. So, for me, there was a kindness to this incredibly raw, incredibly abrasive and difficult humor, but at the core of it was a kind actónot necessarily heart but it was a nice thing to do to somebody. So in my mind, thatís what kind of sparked the idea for me of trying to balance the difference of this really dark humor with ultimately someone trying to do a nice thing.

Kyle Jim, in the stand-up world, do you get instant feedback from the live crowd as to what works and what doesnít. How has it been different working on this?

Jim Not as pleasurable, of course. It is better to hear it live directly instead of doing something and then waiting three months to see if people are laughing at it. But I have never acted before, so Iíve enjoyed the process very much.

Peter Although I will add that we all laugh like Ö on the set.

Jim We do laugh on the set Öbut Iíve enjoyed it. I find the whole acting process to be a little bit more than the Ö I traded my stand-up career.

Moderator The next question is from Aaron Couch.

Aaron Iím from the Hollywood Reporter. I was wonderingóFX is known for giving people a lot of freedom with their shows. What have they done for you as far as do they give you notes or do you just kind of do your thing and turn it in?

Peter Let me start with that one, Jim. One of the reasons I wanted to go back to FX is from working with other networks and stuff was that idea and the concept that John has, which is a brilliant concept in my opinion, especially with these comedies, is trying to keep them at a low enough budget that there is not as much pressure and there is not as much heat, and because of that, there is a lot more freedom. One of the things that I found really amazing with FX, and this really isnít me blowing smokeóI found them to be the best example that Nick Grad gave me. Once I was complimenting them on their notes and he said, yes, we like to be more like a book editor than an actual network.

I think thatís a really great analogy because as we went through the process, there were a couple of notes they gave us on the script, initially, and it was about the basic heart of the script. I donít mean the heart of the show but what the show was about. They kept pushing us to push further and further into what the show was actually about. They were great notes, and it actually did help us find the rhythm and find it. And then in the editing processóagain, their notes are big and overall. It isnít like cut here and cut here. I thought this would be funnier and I thought this would be more touching or whatever. Those are bad examples. But in the big pictures, I have really loved the process. The freedom is tremendous and when you need it, theyíre there, which I think is great.

Jim I agree with Peter. But for me, the notes donít really apply that much to me because they never really questioned any of my jokes.

Peter None of them.

Jim They never question my jokes. They sometimes say is this not a bit risky, and then we always say weíll shoot it and see how it turns out and if it doesnít turn out, weíll just cut it.

Peter Except for one that Jim brought upó Never mind.

Moderator Our next question is from Suzanne Lanoue.

Suzanne This is Suzanne from the TV MegaSite. How are you guys doing today?

Jim Iíve got a cold.

Suzanne Except for the cold. Sorry about that. I really liked the, forgive me if I get the name of this wrong, the 1950s dad voice. How did you come up with that?

Jim I donít know when we called it the 1950s. That was an ad lib. That happened on set once.

Peter He started doing it. I thought it was hilarious.

Jim I think it was like me trying to do an infomercial commercial or just the dad off Leave it to Beaver. I just started doing the dialogue like that and I thought Peter would come in and say stop being an idiot. But they told me to keep going so we just worked it into the episode.

Peter I remember we were just doing rehearsals just before we started shooting. There was a close-up of Jim and he turned to the camera and said, ďWell, Billy, let me tell you how this works.Ē I fell over laughing and hollered out to him as we were shooting and said just keep going, and he kept going and then we started calling him. I said what is that. He said, you know itís kind of like a 50s dad. The guy that talks about asbestos plants that he goes to work out. I said thatís hilarious. Letís go with that.

Thatís a great example of what we were talking about a minute ago about FXís freedom. We saw it on the set. We thought it was great, and we said letís go.

Jim FX gave us notes from that episode. They said we love 50s dad, a great bit from Jimís stand-up. We never argued with them. That was never in the stand-up.

Peter One of the things we do. I donít know if you guys have heard this, but we try to get together on the set. We have a script. Scripts are good and theyíre tight. But we try to get in there and we have reallyóDan Bakkedahl, who was Second City, and Mindy, who is Groundlings, and D.J., whoóeverybody knows D.J., and Sonyaówe have this group of extremely talented people that are really good at playing their instruments. I always like to use the music analogy. Jim gets tired of this one. We kind of jam. We get it going and things start working. We rehearse over and over againólike when we do the big master shots, we spend a lot of time trying to find the rhythm and things like 50s dad come out of it.

Suzanne Jim, you said you hadnít acted before. Are you taking acting lessons or are you just winging it?

Jim Iím just winging it. I think Iíll take an acting lesson if I ever play a different character besides myself. At the moment, I think I should be able to play myself alright.

Suzanne Thanks. I enjoyed the episodes a lot. I didnít think anybody could balance this sort of heart with the really irreverent, dark humor but you guys pulled it off.

Jim Thank you.

Peter That really means a lot.

Moderator Our next question is from Christiane Elin.

Christiane Iím Christiane from SciFi Vision. I think I understand risky and pushed limits. Do you find that itís hard to top in the television atmosphere today?

Jim I donít think itís hard to top in the sense that itís not hard to top live action. But when youíve got to top something like Family Guy or American Dad or any of those shows because we canít do what cartoons can do, but I think live action-wise, everyoneís got the same boundaries. I came and Ö off a person with muscular dystrophy. As long as you donít see the pain and you see my hand moving and thatís the same rule that everyone has to play by.

Peter What weíre trying not to doóat least what Iím trying not to doóis to continue the whatever outgrowths oró One of the things using the idea of American Dad and Family Guy is they are a lot of jokes. Weíre a bit more of a story. In a perfect world, what we are trying to do is to make that whatever you do in life has consequences. So there is a very smallóI donít want to call it a moral because then it sounds like weíre trying to make moral judgments and weíre not but the idea of like what Jim just used the example of Ö of Billy. It was something he did because he had to because Billy needed it because he was a buddy and he has to do it. The comedy of that is I love putting people in difficult situations and watching them try to get out of it. But secondly is the idea that it is also a nice thing to do. Thatís the balance that weíre trying to get. Weíre not trying to get too crazy. Does that make any sense?

Christiane Jim, youíre opening your life to a larger audience, how does that feel? Different?

Jim Yes, it feels very odd, especially since a lot of these stories are 100% true. Iím really raking my life to get each story out. If we go to a second season, Iíve got a few stories ready to go. But it is odd. Itís like they say that when you know a person, you only know the tip of the iceberg and 90% of the iceberg is underwater. I think people know 90% of me and only 10% underwater. I havenít held much back.

Peter I love one time we were watching one of the shows and Jim turned to me and said, ďAm I that much of a douche?Ē

Jim Iím portrayed as Ö but itís probably a fib.

Christiane Thank you. Iím looking forward to seeing more.

Peter Thank you. They seem to get better and better, I hope.

Moderator Our next question comes from the line of Sean McCarthy.

Sean This is Sean McCarthy from the Comics Comic. Iím just following up on something you said about winging it by playing yourself. Can you describe the process of actually portraying Jim Jefferies in a TV show reenacting stories youíve already told in stand-ups?

Jim The way to do it is you just have to act like a bit of a prick. Thatís the only way to do it. Also, you have to have a false sense of confidence where you think youíre cool and the rest of the world doesnít think youíre as cool as you think you are.

Peter Ö I think is a really great thing to say. Weíve had a couple of people say it was really great but it wasnít as funny as his stand-up. The thing about that was so important what Jim said is that a stand-up isóyou tell them Jim.

Jim Itís pretty bizarre that people go your stand-up is way funnier than the show. Iím like I hope so. Stand-up is just me trying to be as funny as possible in the most concentrated hour with me standing on stage with no storyline, no plot line, and no character development. Doing the TV show, you have to have the characters. We want you to root for them. We want you to have emotions for these people. It used to be people that I just explained on stage. So, obviously, itís slower and itís not quite as funny. But I hope the TV show leaves you a little bit more fulfilled than the stand-up does. Does that make sense?

Aaron So far, in the first season, weíre seeing stories from your life off stage. Will see any of Jim Jefferies, the professional comedian, also?

Jim I never really do stand-up on stage, at least in this season. Youíll see me a couple of times in clubs. We were really conscious. We didnít want to be compared to Louie, so we thought weíd end up doing stand-up on the show.

Peter And also I believeóand itís just my own little parameters I want to put inóone of the things that is easy about being able to do the stand-up is that you canówe used to call it the Wonder Years trick where at the end you say what we learned today was. By not being able to go to a stand-up and have us explain or tell the joke or try to illiterate the story, it makes our job a little bit harder, but I think it makes it ultimately hopefully a more satisfying show.

What weíre trying to do is make little mini moviesólittle 23-minute movies. If you notice, there are no titles. The titles just come on. There is no theme song. There is no music going out to commercial or music coming in to commercial. The only music we use is needle drops. Every show is a little bit different. Every show there is no real pattern. One of the hardest things weíve had marketing the show is whatís the show about. Well, itís about Jim trying to become legit. So the good news about that is it opens up so much more for us.

Moderator The next question comes from the line of Earl Dittman.

Earl Itís Earl Dittman from Digital Journal & Wireless Magazine. I have to say I have seen you, Jim, do the stand-up, and I have to say I actually almost prefer the show better because, like youíre right, youíre doing the whole story and you have the whole time to actually relax and do the whole story. Although I love them both, I think this show is really a great vehicle for youóa wonderful vehicle. I think itís incredible. Of course, Peter, youíve done like a lexicon of everything Iíve ever loved from The Riches on down way back to Party of Five and Northern Exposure. Youíre quite a prolific guy.

Peter One of the things that has been interesting about my career, and itís a thing that has only existed, I think, in the last few years is I always try to go for things that I find interesting. I did the first two episodes after the pilots of Northern Exposure. My agent sent it to me and she said youíll love this because itís weird. We went up there and we did it. I donít know if you heard the whole story about Northern Exposure years ago about how everybody hated it. The network buried it in the summer, and so we did whatever we wanted to, which was great.

In that kind of freedom, the first show I ever did was Thirtysomething and that show as like graduate film-making school. After that I did American Gothic and a bunch of other shows like that wereóall throughout my career The Riches were like independent films for television. Itís been really great and wonderful. Iíve really enjoyed it, maybe not as much financially as I could have, but creatively itís been great.

Earl Jim, when you first started talking to Peter, did you have a rough idea that this was something you did want to do or did he have to talk you into it?

Jim Iíve sold a lot of sitcom premises and scripts over the years, which were always like Iím a taxi driver or Iím in a boy band. Actually there was one that I was the manager of the Thunder from Down Under in ĎVegas, which wasnít a bad one, believe it or not. In the end, I kept selling these scripts and I was like I have these stories in my stand-up and we can just do them. Originally, the concept was that from my standup weíd do these stories and then maybe the D.J. character would be in for three or four episodes. Then FX like it so much, they wanted him to be in the series regular. At first, I was a little bit apprehensive about that. But now Iím glad. Itís given us a definite B story or sometimes an A story that we always have to write through. Having to care for this character in a wheel chair and still make it funny is a nice little challenge weekly.

Earl It really is. It really adds a whole lot. I just want to say the series just opens you up to so many different things. Before I let you go, you mentioned that 10% we donít see. Is that 10% that you edit out because you think itís not interesting or stuff you just donít want to talk about?

Jim No, no. Itís illegal. Obviously, Iím not allowed to say it.

Earl There is no edit button on you.

Peter Jim lives his life like most people live 90%. I donít know if you heard that other commentóthe life underneath. I have found pretty much across the board Jim lives his life pretty much wide open.

Moderator Our next question is from the line of Cody Powell.

Cody This is Cody Powell from TV Guide Canada calling. How are you doing? So this question is for both you guys. What has been your favorite part of working on this show or your most memorable moment on set thus far?

Peter Can I take that one? You guys met Rodney last week. He has become a great friend of Jim and me. His name is Nick Daley, and heís an actor with special needs. On our final episodeóhe absolutely loves fire trucks. So he came out at lunchtime and gave us this great speech telling us how special it was for him to be here. Our medic, who has worked with the LAFD, got the fire truck to show up at lunch and two fire trucks showed up. They dressed him all up. He got to drive around with the fire truck and do the hose and all that kind of stuff. It was just a really killer moment because it was so great for him because he kept bugging because I kept telling him weíre going to take you to the firehouse. For me that was really great.

Jim For me, Iíll have to say meeting my girlfriend in the pilot episode.

Peter There you go.

Cody I heard she played one of the hookers, right?

Jim No, no, no. She was Nick Daley, the mentally challenged guy on the fire truck. I just said girlfriend very loosely.

Cody So the second question is there anything you guys can tease about the upcoming episodesómaybe some guest stars that are going to be dropping by or anything?

Jim We can tell you guest stars, I think.

Peter We have Andy Dick.

Jim Andy Dick. We have Marlon Waynans.

Peter John Ratzenberger.

Jim Verne Troyer.

Peter Well, we have Brad.

Jim Brad Williams. Eddy Ifft from my podcast will be making an appearance.

Peter We have some really crazy, crazy story lines coming up.

Jim What about girls? Rachelówe have some pretty girls coming up.

Peter Somebody sent me an e-mailósomebody online, which, by the way, you guys are the key to our hopeful successful. I think itís because of you guys we bumped up last week. Please keep the buzz out. I donít want to call us an underdog, but FXís modelóthis actually comes from one of the guys at FX is they take their chickens, the make them, and then they throw them out of the nest and see what flies. As youíve noticed, itís mainly built on this whole concept of whether people like it or not. Right now Ö. The buzz on the internet has been great. The comments I getóall this stuff Iíve been getting has been really fun. The thing that I really enjoy about you guys, and I have to be honest with you, and, again, Iím not blowing smoke, is you guys get it. Really, itís been encouraging and very fun for me to read a lot of these reviews where people say I was surprised by the heart. I always get scared by calling it the heart because it really isnít heart, but whatever it is, I appreciate it. Itís really great.

Cody I love the show so Iíll do whatever I can.

Peter Anything we can for you, let us know. Call us anytime.

Jim Do they include Canadian ratings in our little rating pack we get?

Cody No. I think Canadian ratings are done separately. What you see is just American.

Jim Oh, bloody.

Peter I did a show up there in Canada for a couple of years. It was great.

Jim My girlfriendís Canadian. Iím Australian. Sheís Canadian. We have an American baby.

Peter And weíre pretty upset about you guys taking out jobs.

Cody Alright. Thanks, guys.

Moderator Our next question comes from the line of Stephanie Kelly.

Stephanie Iím actually asking this on behalf of a journalist who couldnít be on the callóCurt Wagner from Tribuneís Red Eye. He was asking it seems to me that you guys are exploring how close being selfless is to being selfish. Was that on your minds when creating the show and how do you keep that balance?

Jim Actually, I donít think anyone has said it more succinctly as that.

Peter That was very well put. In my career, what Iíve always tried to do, even like I made a movie a long time agoóSuicide Kings. I always canít stand movie or anything that happens. In Suicide Kings, itís quite violent. What I have the people do is when the violence happens, they all freak out and go crazy like we all wouldólike normal people would. The thing that weíre trying to do in this show is the same kind of thing. How do you react? It is funny, but it is also a difficult situationówith Billy in the wheelchair and Dan having trouble with work, all those kinds of things. There is just a hint of reality.

So one of the things we love about the show is that somebody called it a bromance, which I think it kind of is. I think thinks itís a really good analogyóselfless and selfish. Actually, that came from Jim, in my mind. After watching all of the stand-up and sitting down with him, itís the same struggle I think we all have is how much are we out for ourselves and how much are we out for other people?

Stephanie That makes sense. The follow-up to that kind of goes along those lines -how do you balance the sweetness with the crudeness on show? He loves both but he wonders how you strike that balance?

Jim I think Iíve struck that balance my whole career with my stand-up so to me, it feels like a fairly natural way of telling jokes. I donít see any other way to tell jokes, to be honest with you.

Peter I think what I was saying a minute agoówith Jim and IóI think that is one of the things that has been a nice marriage for us is I believe that itís really important to show, for lack of a better term, the consequences of your actions, even if theyíre emotional or theyíre simple little things in life. The thing that I think weíre hopefully doing well on this show right now is the crude and terrible humor but then the reality of life comes in. Thatís where I hope that our plan is to make it funny as Ö and then suddenly surprise you with life, more so than heart. This is a real situation with a guy in a wheelchair. Itís really funny, but he still has to wipe his Ö which hopefully will work.

Moderator The next question comes from Kyle Nolan.

Kyle This is Kyle Nolan from Noreruns.net. So you guys both wear so many hats on the production of the show. What do you find are the challenges or benefits in being involved in so many aspects?

Peter Do you want me to take that, Jim?

Jim Yes.

Peter The challenges are obviously I work myself to deathóseven days a week and that kind of stuff because as I think we mentioned earlier, there is not a lot of money in the show. But the positive aspect is the ability to have one vision so that it ends up being pretty much what you want. Itís the amazing thing, again, about FX. I cannot say enough good things about them. Everything that has been on the air so far, Jim and I, hopefully also, are very proud of. Itís pretty much what we wantó98% of what we want. The 2% may have been places where we crossed the line maybe too far, but, in general, itís been really rewarding to, like I said a minute ago, to make these little mini movies every week.

As a filmmaker, one of the things that Iím trying to do is Iím primarily known as the director. Iíve written a couple of movies in the past and I did my own series about 10 years ago, but one of the things that I always wanted as kind of a fantasy of mine was to try to make television a bit more of a film-makerís medium. I have been able to do that with this one. Itís been really greatóreally fun.

Kyle You had mentioned some of the guest stars. Could you talk a little bit about how you go about casting the series and getting D.J. and some of the other main cast?

Jim D.J. auditioned for us like a regular person. It was quite the prize when he walked in. I think it was just luck. I think Memphis had just been canceled that day.

Peter We have this wonderful tracking agent.

Jim Wendy OíBrien is very good.

Peter Another Canadian.

Jim Apart from that, we got John Ratzenberger because I do John Ratzenberger impersonations. When we wrote that character, whenever I would table read, I would say Iíll take Walter and then Iíd just do a John Ratzenberger And then we were why donít we just ask if we can get him. And then lo and behold, we got him.

Peter D.J. is another great example. He came in and auditioned. Like I said, it was a bit of luck. And then he got cold feet. We were up in Portland and we shot the pilot in Portland and his manager called me up and said I think you may need to talk D.J. into this. So I got on the phone with D.J. and talked to him. I first started out with the obvious questionóreally, D.J., you donít want to play a guy in a wheelchair? Thatís what everybody gets awards for. And then after that, he was just worried and nervous about what he could do. Now, if you talk to him, he loves the choice he made. Again, heís the hub we wheel around because the other people are more improv and comedy centered and D.J. is a really solid actor. Because heís stuck to a chair and only can express with his face, itís critical he is as good as he is and obviously is.

Then we have Andy Dick, a good friend of Jimís. He came in and he killed it. We have a show coming up youíre just going to love. Heís outrageous. He talks about his troubles and his issues that heís had and talks about being sober and not being sober and itís really quite funny.

Jim When we want someone like Andy Dick who is playing themselves, we wanted them to be portrayed as they actually are, you know what I mean, rather than a glossy version of themselves.

Moderator We have a question from the line of Earl Dittman.

Earl Quick question for you, Jim. I didnít ask youóhow did you originally get started in comedy? What was your calling? Did you always know you wanted to be a comedian?

Jim I wanted to be a stand-up comedian since I was about 14. I started watching stand-up comedy on TV. I did some open spots when I was 17. The first one went rather well. Then they found out I was 17. In Australia, you have to be 18 to go to a bar. They said if I wanted to come back, I had to bring a parent. So I told my dad that I went off and did this. And my dad said alright, Iíll come out with you. I remember it was hailing and it was really bad. I went on stage and I bombed in front of about seven people. Just died on my Ö My dad was there. I was doing a lot of jokes about you know when youíre in school and this happens and that happens. My dad, in the car ride home, said I donít think this is for you, mate. It broke my little 17-year-old heart. I went out and did it one more time and it just didnít go well. I didnít do it again until I was 23. Then I got up on stage. Iím 35 now. Itís been my occupation since I was 23 years old.

Peter When I asked him the same question at first, what did your mother call youóThe King of the Ö.

Jim The Kind of the Idiots.

Earl Is that an appropriate term?

Jim I think itís appropriate. Iíve never been the type of guy that had a lot of friends or was part of the cool group. If I have got friends, I seem to be running the show.

Peter As his mom used to say, theyíre all a bunch of idiots. Weíre just continuing that now with the show. Jim calls it the ugliest show on television.

Earl I hope you feel better. You have the flu, rightónot that new neural virus from Australia?

Jim I donít know what Iíve got. I had the flu shot. Yesterday it got bad and this morning, itís really bad. I donít know what Iím sick with.

Earl Youíre not throwing up or anything?

Jim No.

Earl Okay. Thatís that new virus from Australia that theyíre scaring Americans with.

Jim Itís like a committee off a kangaroo.

Earl You all have a great day and thanks again.

Moderator We have a question from the line of Jeri Jaquin.

Jeri Military Press. Hi guys. Sorry to hear youíre sick, Jim.

Jeri We Americans didnít mean to bring you down a little bit. You talk a lot about your family in your performances. Are you going to be bringing in family for yourself on the show?

Jim Thatís the plan I have at the moment for Season Two is to bring my parents over for maybe three episodes.

Jeri Your mother sounds hilarious.

Jim A lot of stuff in Mindy Sterlingís character, which is lifted directly from my mother. Obviously, Mindy is not morbidly obese, but my motherís a hoarder and Mindyís character is a hoarder. There are a few lines where Iíve had arguments with my mother that I put straight into this script. I have an idea of a few actors Iíd like to play my mom and dad that would be my dream cast. Theyíll definitely be in the next season.

Jeri How do they feel about the show? Have they seen a lot of it?

Jim No. Iíve shown some episodes to my brother because I like to get his feedback but not to my parents. They can watch it if it ever gets to Australian television. Theyíve never laughed at anything Iíve ever said. I donít think theyíre going to start laughing now.

Jeri So is all the cast from Legitóis that your new family, then?

Jim I hate to get mushy and say something like that, but I do believe weíre all friends. This is the first set that Iíve ever been on. I hear thatís a rarity. We allóme, D.J., Dan, and Mindyóhave all been calling each other after each episode airs and see how we all feel. Weíve all remained friends.

Peter One of the things, from my point of view, is Iíve been doing this a long time and one of the things I told John Landgraf and FX when I wanted to do thisóone of the reasons I wanted all the freedom that FX gives you is that part of the problems with studios and networks and all that good stuff is they tend to oftentimes make things to be difficult. I try to go out of my way on this show to do everything that Iíve seen that there have been problems in the past to try to make it really fun and to try to have a good time. As we discussed, weíre on a fairly low budget. Iím making a tenth or whatever of what I usually make, but the idea is that you pay for it, hopefully, with fun. Part of that fun is the more fun you have, the more it becomes a group of peopleólike in a perfect world, what I would like to do is like make a troupe, like we could all go together and have more and more fun. So far, itís been really great.

Jeri Peter, do you feel like FX is the perfect place for you? I think it is, but do you think itís perfect place for a jumping board for this show?

Peter Absolutely. I have no question.

Jim Iíve said before that I like that they like their comedies as edgy as possible, but there are still some restrictions. I canít say Ö, right?

Jeri I miss that.

Jim If I had a show on HBO, it would just be a naked girl sitting on a chair saying Ö over and over.

Peter Jim has a good point. Even though there are very few rules, and you will see one coming up here next week is about Jim in an airplane where he calls the guy a Ö, and we beep it out. We beep it out in a really great way. Itís very obvious what he said. In some ways, itís almost funnier that he actually said it and that we have to beep it out. One of the things that has been kind of nice about it is it does give us rules like a basketball court where youíre inside the court and you have to play within those rules. In some ways, itís an odd way to say it, but I think it actually helps the stories. I think FX is also the perfect place for a number of reasons but also for the fact that they areóas I said earlier, this book editor thing. There are occasional times when it feels like weíre on our own for a second and then they come in and say I think this is working and you say good.

Jeri I think the show is going to be amazing. There are some students at UCSD, especially one named Brad, who is so thrilled that you are on TV, Jim.

Peter Tell Brad to tell all his friends in Tweet and Facebook and Reddit and all the other stuff you guys do because itís all good. Itís all working.

Jeri We absolutely will. Thank you, guys.

Peter Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

Moderator There are no further questions at this time. Please continue.

Stephanie I just wanted to thank everyone again for participating in the call with Jim and Peter. As a reminder, Legit airs Thursday night at 10:30 only on FX. Thanks so much to Jim and Peter for participating and the transcript will be sent out within the next 72 hours.

Moderator That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for your participation and for using AT&T executive teleconference. You may now disconnect.

Here is a link to the official LEGIT blog where you can find behind the scenes videos and updates from the cast and crew: http://legit.blogs.fxnetworks.com .

Legit Episode 3 Ė ďLoveĒ
Description: Billy decides he wants to have a real relationship, so Jim and Steve create a fake online dating profile to help him meet girls. Steve goes to a bar and tests out Jimís pick-up strategies on a co-worker and returns home to find Billy in a compromising position. Written by Peter O'Fallon & Jim Jefferies & Rick Cleveland; directed by Peter OíFallon. Link: http://www.hulu.com/watch/451459

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