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Interview with Jason Hawes of "Ghost Hunters" on
Moderator: Maxine Shen
August 28, 2012
1:00 pm CT
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by.
Welcome to the Syfy, Ghost Hunters conference call. During
the presentation, all participants will be in a listen only
mode. Afterwards, we will conduct a question and answer
session. At that time, if you have a question, press the 1
followed by the 4 on your telephone. If at any time during
the conference you need to reach an operator, please press
As a reminder, this conference is being recorded Tuesday,
August 28, 2012. I would now like to turn the conference
over to Ms. Maxine Shen. Please go ahead maíam.
Maxine Shen: Okay. Hi, everybody and welcome to the Ghost
Hunters conference call with Jason Hawes, Lead Investigator
and founder of TAPS. Heís here today to talk about the
mid-season return of Ghost Hunters, which continues its
eight season on Wednesday, September 5. But, before he
starts taking your questions, Jason has some news to share
with you. Over to you Jason.
Jason Hawes: Hey, how is everybody. Iím happy you all joined
us. Yes, this - well the new seasonís really going to be
kicking off with a lot of great things. You know, I think
youíre all going to realize we ended up brining in a new
investigator, her nameís (Ashley). I think you guys will
really enjoy seeing how she grows on the show and her
interaction with the rest of the team and she - I think
sheíll be appearing starting September 26.
But, some of the best cases I think that weíve had to date
and some of the best evidence that weíve caught recently. I
cant - of course, I canít get into too much but, itís just
going to be - I honestly believe itís probably going to be
one of the best seasons ever.
Maxine Shen: Okay. Great, thank you Jason. (Marcel), we are
ready for your questions...
Maxine Shen: ...for asking.
Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, once again if
youíd like to register for a question, please press the 1
followed by the 4 on your telephone. You will hear a three
tone prompt to acknowledge your request. If your question
has been answered and you would like to withdraw your
registration, please press the 1 followed by the 3. If you
are using a speakerphone, please lift your headset before
entering your request. And our first question comes from the
line of Reg Seeton from TheDeadbolt.com. Please go ahead.
Reg Seeton: Hey, Jason. Thanks for taking the time to do
Jason Hawes: Oh, thanks for coming on.
Reg Seeton: Cool. Well, heading into the season, how tough
was it to adapt to the investigations without Grant. Can you
touch on that just a little bit?
Jason Hawes: Honestly, it wasnít that tough at all because I
still deal with Grant daily on other things and heís still
there. He had to take a leave of absence from the show but,
you know, weíre - our families are extremely tight and weíre
And, for many years I investigated without Grant being
there, you know, for many years of our friendship - Grant
and while TAPS was still going, of course - still is - Grant
left to go to Utah. He was gone for a couple years on that.
So itís - of course itís a little odd not having a guy I
refer to as my brother standing beside me all the time. But,
you know, I think it wasnít an issue for me at all. And to
be honest with you, the team, thereís just a new energy with
the entire team. Everybodyís just so alive lately and yes,
itís been interesting.
Operator: Thank you Jason. Our next question comes from the
line of John Soltes from Hollywood Soapbox. Your line is
open. Please go ahead.
John Soltes: All right, thanks for the time today Jason. Iím
curious, you know, it seems like the upcoming season youíre
going to be focusing in on some ghost stories down in the
South. You know, why take this focus for the new season down
there and can you kind of give a preview of some of the good
things you guys find some of the bad things.
Jason Hawes: Some of the good or the bad things? Well, weíve
had some wild investigations. We were actually able to
investigate a zoo, which has been -you know, thatís tough
enough if you think about it. You know, we were called in by
an actual town that had called us in n the past to
investigate some locations.
You know, and yes, we spent some time down in Charleston,
South Carolina because theyíre such old areas and a lot of
the areas we headed off to, they have such a history, some
of these - in some of the - some insane history. One of the
locations we had to do had the first so called female serial
killer. But just to be able to get out there, hear these
stories and to be able to investigate some of these
locations, itís just - itís incredible.
Yes, itís - you know, that one actually - the one is was
just talking about the first serial killer, some people who
actually are on production ended up having a situation. I
canít get in too many details but it led to a really
Operator: Thank you and once again ladies and gentlemen, to
queue up and/or to re-queue up for a question, please press
the 1 followed by the 4 on your telephone.
Our next question comes from the line of Christiane Elin
from Sci-Fi Vision. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Christiane Elin: Hi Jason, thanks for talking to me this
Jason Hawes: Oh, thank you.
Christiane Elin: Well, my question for you is it - Iím sure,
like, amazing Season 8 or an 8.5 now. And what do you think
about the evolution of Ghost Hunters throughout the years?
Jason Hawes: Oh my gosh, I didnít think we were going to
make it out of first season, so the fact that weíre at 8.5
is incredible. To see that this field has come so far that -
a field that used to be laughed about and people felt that
they had to whisper experiences that they were having, now
they feel that they can openly discuss it, thatís just
Itís such a great feeling to know that we were a part of
that movement to try to really get this field ahead. And
also the amount of new people - new investigators - who have
been stepping into the field just really shows that itís
advancing, and itís becoming a respected area. So that does
mean everything to us.
Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the
line of Kat Hobza from Sheknows.com. Your line is open.
Please go ahead.
Kat Hobza: Hey Jason, pleasure to visit with you today.
Jason Hawes: Thank you.
Kat Hobza: So, when you needed a new investigator, what
criteria did you use? What are you looking for in a new team
Jason Hawes: Well, of course, when weíre looking for
somebody new we want somebody who is not going to
automatically believe that everything is a ghost or
paranormal. We want somebody whoís willing to try to go that
extra mile to figure out what might be truly creating the
activity, whether itís electrical issues, plumbing,
anything, over medicated, under medicated individuals.
But also beyond that, I need somebody who can mesh with the
rest of the TAPS team because the main thing is weíre a big
family. Steveís been with me for 20 plus years. Daveís been
with us for years. Amy has been a friend for, you know,
almost 10 years now, same with Britt. So - and K. J. was my
nextdoor neighbor as a kid growing up.
So, we all get together. We all spend so much time, you
know, doing this show but also hanging out outside the show
that I just needed somebody who was going to fit in and be
able to work well with the group. And that the group was
going to be able to accept as a whole because bottom line,
theyíre the ones who make the decision if somebody stays or
if somebody goes.
Kat Hobza: Sure. And so, just real quick, I need your
expertise. Iím getting ready to buy a house, so how can I
tell if itís haunted without actually spending the night
Jason Hawes: Well, thing is, you could buy a house and not
know that thereís something going on there for years. So
thereís really no way to know. Over 80% of all claims can be
disproved, so chances are youíre buying a house that doesnít
have anything going on.
Operator: Thank you. And once again, ladies and gentlemen as
a reminder, to register for a question, please press the 1
followed by the 4.
Our next question comes from the line of Chris Boyd from
Hollywood Junket. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Chris Boyd: Hello Jason, thanks for taking some time to talk
to us. I noticed that in this season you guys are looking
into some different types of hauntings, for example, in the
ďCape FearĒ episode. Is there any difference between looking
for more like the typical ghost (unintelligible) looking for
something like an elemental spirit?
Jason Hawes: Absolutely (unintelligible). When youíre
looking for a typical ghost youíre able to a lot of times,
if there is something actually there, and intelligent type
haunt youíre able to make contact with it, youíre able to
get these things to communicate back and for with you. When
youíre dealing with what some believe to be an elemental
type of activity youíre dealing with something that is
purposely trying to avoid you but create fear in order to
make you leave an area, to sort of push you out of these
highly wooded areas that weíve now encroached into.
So, yes, now youíre trying to actually document something
that youíre spending all this time trying to hide out in.
Yes, itís a total different style of investigation. Also
being outside and investigating cabins and stuff into all
these areas, youíre dealing with animals, youíre dealing
with insects and a lot of other contamination issues that
come into play.
Operator: Thank you Jason. Our next question comes for the
line of Erin Wolf from Paranormal Pop Culture. Your line is
open. Please go ahead.
Erin Wolf: Hi, Jason. How are you?
Jason Hawes: Hey, good. How are you?
Erin Wolf: Good. Good. So, now that Grant has left, do you
see an end in sight for your involvement with the show and
when do you think that would be? And do you think Ghost
Hunters could continue without you?
Jason Hawes: You know, I donít - Iím never looking that far
ahead to wonder when Iím leaving or if Iím leaving or
anything of that nature. To be honest with you, every time I
go to do a season, every time Iím requested to do another
season, I sit down with my wife and children and itís a
choice that we make as a family and I spend a lot of time at
home. Even though it looks like Iím always on the road, Iím
not. But, if my children come and say, you know what, dad we
prefer you not to, well then I would walk away knowing that
Iíd been able to bring it this far. But as of right now, my
children love the fact that Iíve been doing this since even
before they were born and, you know, to see how this has
I remember my oldest whoís 21, she used to come downstairs
as a little kid and see Steve and me and Grant and everybody
sitting around trying to figure out cases, so she sees how
this whole thing has grown and how itís become this
international thing now. So, yes, I will stay as long as my
family wants me to stay. And if the show can survive without
me, I think it could. I donít know, I guess that would have
to be from the viewerís standpoint.
You know, I know that if I was to step back Steve, who is
100% adequate and able to could easily run what is going on.
I donít know how we would feel about doing that on his own
though. So, I donít know, time will tell. I guess youíll
have to tune into the show and find out.
Operator: Thank you. Once again, ladies and gentlemen, it is
the 1 followed by the 4 on your telephone to register for a
question. Our next question comes from the line of Karen
Lambert from Ghost TV Blogs. Your line is open. Please go
Karen Lambert: Hi Jason, welcome back. I have two questions.
Will there be a Halloween special and will we be seeing
Maddie again this season?
Jason Hawes: Okay, to start off with the Hallow special, I
am not going to do a Halloween live show this year. Itís
just - my twin sons are eight now, I spent a lot of these
Halloweens away from them and I just - I want to spend time
with the family on that day. Weíve always loved that holiday
and I just - one thing I canít stand is getting picture
texts to feel like Iím there, so Iím staying home with them
this year. Iím going to celebrate it with them and go from
As for Maddie, yes, I actually just had Maddie on some cases
we just did. I try to keep her somewhat to more local type
cases just because the amount of travel. I donít want her
sitting in the back seat of a car for two - three days while
weíre driving out to these locations; it just takes a toll
on her. So, but you will definitely see her on these cases.
Operator: Once again, thank you. Our next question comes
from the line of Marc Eastman from areyouscreaming.com. Your
line is open. Please go ahead.
Marc Eastman: Hi Jason, itís good to talk to you.
Jason Hawes: Hey, thank you very much.
Marc Eastman: Iím actually supposed to tell you that my wife
is your biggest fan. So, I have to get that out.
Jason Hawes: Oh, well, I think sheíd have a - sheíd have to
go up against my 12-year-old daughter on that one then.
Marc Eastman: I wouldnít be surprised. The question I had
actually is after so many doing the show and doing all these
investigations and obviously having, Iím sure, way too many
options to pick from, how do places make the cut? What does
it take for some - for a place thatís trying to get you, you
know, what tips it over the edge that youíd go to one place
Jason Hawes: Okay. Well, the TAPS website last year alone
received 96 million hits. We receive about a thousand to
1,500 emails a day with possible case requests. Honestly,
out of those itís going to fall under are the people
terrified. If they are, what type of activityís going on?
Are there children involved because if thereís a child
involved that jumps to the front of the list because thatís
- Iím a father and the least thing I would want is for my
children to be fearful, in their own home to feel
So, you know, of course, these things all - those are the
main factors that will bring us to an area. Itís going to
jump right to the front. But, also with residential cases, a
lot of those cases either we do not - with absolutely no
cameras there because the people donít want to be on camera
or we just - we need to be cautious with a lot of those
because sometimes those donít air. Thereís a lot of cases we
do that never make air. So - but yes, anytime thereís a
family and children and activity that is active at that
point, we - weíll get there ASAP.
Operator: Thank you. And we have a follow up question from
the line of John Soltes from Hollywood Soapbox. Your line is
open. Please go ahead.
John Soltes: Ah, yes, thanks again. Iím curious, you know,
looking back now at the TV series and, you know, itís been
out for so many years, I mean, how has it changed your life?
I mean, is it kind of night and day looking back seven years
ago of, you know, are you - for example, are you still doing
the daily plumbing and stuff, I mean, or do you get spotted
a lot in public?
Jason Hawes: I definitely get spotted a lot in public. Itís,
you know, the baldhead and goatee thing definitely puts -
people are easy to recognize me. As for plumbing, yes - when
Iím not full swing production, I go back to the norm. You
know, Iíll go and Iíll price out jobs for Roto, still
employed by them. Theyíve been a great company but also the
understand that theyíre getting advertising while Iím on the
road, so, you know, we scratch each otherís backs on that
end. Theyíve always been a great company. I for them years
before the show, so - and yes, to see - to honestly see how
just incredible or how large this whole thing has become is
just - itís wild. Weíve just been having a great time. Itís
definitely - itís changed a lot.
You know, itís - but the nice thing is weíre going in with a
camera crew, Iím going in with - when I go into a location,
where a lot of other shows theyíre going in with a producer,
a cameraman, a sound man, all these things, I donít.
I go in with just one cameraman and whoever Iím
investigating with at the time and that cameramanís usually
(Kendal), who is my main guy whoís been with me for years on
the show so he knows to stay out of my way. But also, Iím
able to take his tape, Iím able to take his audio and
analyze that as well, so it also comes in handy that way
having that crew there because I have more possible evidence
that can be documented by a different camera and other
Operator: Thank you. And once again, ladies and gentlemen,
it is the 1 followed by the 4 to register for a question.
The next question, once again, is a follow up question from
the line of Kat Hobza from sheknows.com. The line is open.
Please go ahead.
Kat Hobza: Hey, Jason. Iím curious, is there a particular
haunting our episode that sticks with you? And then also,
how do you clear your head from this line of work and relax?
Jason Hawes: Yes, I think every case sticks with me because
I look at it - cases Iím able to figure out are just as
exciting as cases that actually have paranormal activity.
So, of course, Waverly Hills, 63,000 people passed away
there. Just walking through that building, you know, you
feel - you could feel that. A lot of (unintelligible).
Stanley Hotel, you know, but also personal cases. Weíve got
two personal cases thatíll be coming up rather early in this
season that are real - they hit close to home and so, of
course, that stuff sticks with me.
As for clearing my head, I donít know, itís just Iíve been
doing this so long Iím - itís second nature. Itís always
there, even when I go home though itís always there. Itís -
Iíll pull into my house sometimes after getting off a plane
or driving back into town and all the lights are off in my
house and all I see is flashlights. I walk in to find my two
8-year-old twin sons walking around with their 12-year-old
sister investigating the house.
So itís such an imbedded part of my life and my familyís
house that itís not like I ever have to clear my head
because thereís always somebody involved in it. We also have
my 17-year-old daughter Haily whoís on the show and also
investigating off of the show with me as well. So, yes,
everybody in my family seems to be involved with it.
Operator: Thank you. And our next question comes from the
line of Steve Eramo from Sci-Fi and TV Talk. Your line is
open. Please go ahead.
Steve Eramo: Hi Jason, a pleasure to speak with you today.
Jason Hawes: Hey, thank you, same.
Steve Eramo: Wanted to find out if maybe if could tell us,
what continues to fuel your passion for this type of
investigative work after all these years?
Jason Hawes: First off, itís still such an unknown field.
You know, of course, Iím looking for answers in it and also
trying to help out as many people as I can along the way.
You know, and I donít know - and I sat there and I thought
about this, surely, because I donít know if Iíll ever figure
out these answers that Iím looking for that people are
hoping Iím able to find for them. But if 100, 200, you know,
300 years from now somebody does and we even played the
smallest little role in the foundation that led them to
that, then thatís all that matters to me.
Itís just trying to figure this out and trying to be a part
of that - of possibly what it is, and I think thatís really
what fuels me and just trying to understand how these things
are possibly because thereís so many - there appears to be
so many different types of haunts. Weíve - over the years
weíve found that, you know, you can have intelligent type
haunts, you could have residually, you could poltergeist
type haunts. But also, you can have intelligent type haunts
that arenít like everything that weíve ever thought about
these ghosts communicating back and forth. Now, for whatever
reason, some of these intelligent type haunts are spirits
that are still stuck in their time, theyíre still living a
normal day in their life.
Well, how is that possible? How is it possible to have time
that seems to be folding on itself and if so does that now
lead into maybe thatís what a psychic or sensitive is?
Somebody whoís still in their time but they are able to hear
voices as these things are able to hear us. So, itís just -
itís so interesting and thereís so many different layers
that thatís just what keeps us going.
Operator: Thank you. And our next question, once again, is a
follow up question from the line of Erin Wolf from
Paranormal Pop Culture. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Erin Wolf: Okay. Jason, youíve researched a lot of great
people, you always recommend reading up on the paranormal
before investigating. Is there a new technique or a latest
study or an author that you have explored or employed in
this new season coming up?
Jason Hawes: You know, no. Honestly, there isnít. Iíve
always tried to stray away from reading books from other
paranormal investigators. And the main reason behind that is
because I never wanted to follow in someone elseís
footsteps, I sort of wanted to blaze my own trail, look at
it my own way, be my own person.
And itís - initially when TAPS - when we came out with TAPS
we - so many people used to attack us because we used to
shoot down these orbs that everybody thought were spirit
activity and everything else. And we were able to recreate
all these things just by slapping pillows or, you know,
taking pictures outside when it was high moisture times and
things of that nature. So, it was just we always wanted to
look at it our own way.
I know Steve was big on reading books by (Hahn Hosier), you
know, other investigators like to read from other people. I
just try to always stay away from that stuff.
Operator: Thank you. And as a final reminder, ladies and
gentlemen it is, once again, a 1 followed by the 4 to
register for a question.
And our next question is a follow up question from the line
of Christiane Elin from SciFi Vision. Your line is open.
Please go ahead.
Christiane Eline: Hello again Jason. I had a question about
technology. I know there different paranormal shows out
there, do you have a limitations on what, like, the TAPS
recognizes the technology they use or do you try new things?
Will there be technology this season?
Jason Hawes: There will and actually Iím working with a
company right now on an app that will be able to take any
Android and iPhones and iPads and all that stuff and be able
to work off of meters that are built into them. And canít
get into too much detail on it but, Iím - I was actually
just using a prototype of it the other day.
But thereís also a lot of equipment out there that becomes
rather laughable that Iíve seen that I guess other people
have brought into this field where, you know, these boxes
that are generating voices, well the voices are words that
are actually put in or programmed into these devices. So,
you know, thereís a lot of things out there that I think are
holding the field back and thereís a lot of technology out
there dealing with infrasound and stuff like that that weíre
really trying to bring to the forefront. So I think youíll
be able to see a lot of newer stuff coming out from us and
to other areas.
Operator: Thank you Jason. And our final question, once
again, is a follow up question from the line of John Soltes
from The Hollywood Soapbox. Your line is open. Please go
John Soltes: Thank again. Iím just curious, you know, you
had talked a little bit about, you know, people, I guess,
who believe and you kind of dispelled some of the evidence
that they presented to you. I was looking - you know, what
about the flipside of that equation, you know, people - do
you ever have sort of naysayers, just people who donít
believe in ghosts and they kind of, you know, I donít know,
they give you a hard time or theyíre critics? I mean, do you
- what do you sort of say - who - people just who donít
believe in anything that appears on Ghost Hunters as far as,
you know, the paranormal goes?
Jason Hawes: Honestly, I have dealt with people like that
and itís pretty - because I donít get into an argument with
them about this. Bottom line is, Iím not here to push my
beliefs on them, I would appreciate the same. I think that,
first off, every religion, every nationality, everybody out
there has talked about something to deal with the spirit
realm since the human race came around. So I think it would
be naÔve to say that it didnít exist, let alone, we
manipulate energy every time we turn on a hair dryer or a
vacuum cleaner. To say the world hasnít been manipulating it
since the start of time is just silly.
But like I said, Iím not here to try to force this as
paranormal and I know it because of this reason down anybody
throat. I just think that it would be best if those people
stop being so close minded and instead of becoming full
believer, hey thatís fine, meet us in the middle. Letís try
to work this out together. Letís try to figure out - if you
donít believe it to be paranormal fine, letís try to figure
out what it is instead of casting stones at each other.
John Soltes: Okay.
Operator: Thank you. As a correction, now our final question
comes from the line of Kat Hobza from sheknows.com. Your
line is open. Please go ahead maíam.
Kat Hobza: Hey Jason, I was just curious, what do you love
about your job, what do you not love about your job?
Jason Hawes: I love about my job is definitely problem
solving, figuring out whatís truly going on, the people that
Iím able to meet and interact with. And sometimes that can
be the stuff that you really donít love about your job
because you never know whose house youíre walking to.
Just like, Iím a plumber for Roto Rooter and Iíve walked
through peopleís homes where you just know you have to get
out, that theyíre not all there. It happens in this field as
well where, you know, we had a case not too - a couple years
back where we walked into a house and come to find out, this
person had loaded weapons all through their house. It
becomes a safety issues, you need to get out, you need to
So, I think meeting new people, interacting, trying to
figure out what their problems are, being a problem solver
is one of the most interesting things. But also not knowing
who youíre about to walk - whose home youíre about to walk
into and who youíre about to deal with can be a pretty scary
part as well.
Operator: And thank you Jason. It appears we have no further
questions at this time. Ms. Shen, Iíll turn the call back
over to you.
Maxine Shen: Okay. Well, thank you very much everyone who
called in and Jason, thank you for chatting with us today.
And just a reminder, Ghost Hunters returns of September 5
with the episode titled, ďSerial Killerís RevengeĒ. Itís the
first of 14 new episodes, which takes us through to
December. Great. Well, thank you again for calling and have
a nice day everyone.
Jason Hawes: Thank you everybody, I appreciate you taking
the time out. It means a lot to me.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude the
conference call for today. We thank you for your
participation and ask that you please disconnect your lines.
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