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Interview with Joelle Carter of "Justified"
on FX 3/4/11.
I've only started watching "Justified" this year, but
I've really enjoyed it. It has a huge but great cast, and Carter is
certainly one of the prettier members of the cast. She also shows a
great range and has gone through some amazing things on the show. She
was very nice when I spoke with her below. I hope you enjoy it, and
don't forget to watch the show!
Dominic Pagone – FX Network, Director of Media Relations
Kristy Silvernail – FX Network, Manager of Media Relations
Joelle Carter – “Ava Crowder,” Justified
Moderator Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to
the Justified conference call with Miss Joelle Carter. At this time all
participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a
question and answer session. As a reminder this conference is being
recorded. I would now like to turn this conference to your host, Dominic
Pagone. Please, go ahead.
D. Pagone Thank you very much, and hello, everybody. Thanks for joining
us today with Miss Ava Crowder herself, Joelle Carter. Joelle, thank you
for taking the time to be with us. Again, Justified airs Wednesday
nights at 10 p.m. on FX and we will go ahead and open it up to
Moderator One moment please, for our first question. The first question
is from Ernie Estrella, Buzzfocus.com. Please, go ahead.
E. Estrella Hi, Joelle.
J. Carter Hey, how are you?
E. Estrella Good, my first question is…we see you interacting with Boyd
a lot this season. Is there any chance that we'll see you interacting
with even Mags Bennett or any of the other Bennett clan?
J. Carter Yes, there are a few scenes where a whole bunch of the gang
get together. I don't get any one-on-one with any of the Bennetts until
the very last episode. And that's about all I can say.
E. Estrella Okay, great. Thank you.
Moderator Our next question is from Far Hossain, Franklyfarr.com.
Please, go ahead.
F. Hossain Hi Joelle, how are you?
J. Carter I'm really well, thank you.
F. Hossain I have a question. How do you actually feel about Boyd?
J. Carter How do I feel about Boyd as Ava?
F. Hossain Yes, as Ava. Do you want him with her, or do you just put up
J. Carter I think where we left off, the last episode when he offers the
money to her, right? And then the cost of coming in--- It's interesting.
I think it's Ava and Boyd. Ava likes to have--- She has a big heart and
she really loves the idea that everyone can change and in the beginning
I think she wanted to take a chance on that with Boyd, and I believe as
its progressing, they're kind of falling for each other a little bit and
she wants to help him out because of these feelings she's having and
then he brings this in again, yet another complicated issue. But, I
think that for Ava, she had this long, long relationship with Boyd and I
believe he's kind of always been in love with her and she really finds
him interesting and she sees him exciting and we'll see what happens!
F. Hossain Alright, thank you.
Moderator The next question is from Jim Napier, Napiernews.com. Please,
J. Napier Hi, Joelle. Thank you for your time today.
J. Carter Sure.
J. Napier I just wanted to ask you a quick question. The character Ava
has such a complex relationship with both Raylan and Boyd. Do you find
it difficult to keep all of the …of those relationships boiling under
J. Carter I'm sorry, I find it difficult--- I didn't hear---
J. Napier No, that's fine. Do you find it difficult to keep all the
subtleties of those relationships, the different intricacies of those
relationships boiling under the surface?
J. Carter Oh, I find it challenging and exciting. It's wonderful when
they write for you such complex situations because it is a challenge,
but it's thrilling. It's great.
J. Napier Thank you very much.
Moderator Monique Hale, Your Entertainment Corner.com.
M. Hale Hi, thanks so much for talking with us today.
J. Carter Oh, my pleasure.
M. Hale I wanted to know with Ava and Boyd being family and pretty much
all that the other person has, like they're each other's support system,
do you think that she'll be able to keep him out of trouble?
J. Carter Have you tried to keep a man out of trouble? I'm not sure. I
don't think Ava can keep herself out of trouble.
M. Hale Right, but she has her shotgun just in case.
J. Carter She does. You know I kind of see Ava as the--- I think, you
know, for Ava, she's had a certain life if you look at Winona and Ava.
Winona, she knows kind of what she wants, her picture of her and Raylan
in the end and them saying, and him doing a job when he comes home, does
the work nine to five. For Ava, I think she's really just looking for
love and someone that's dedicated to her and for someone that will
respect her and won’t hurt her. Boyd is a gentleman and he's really
devoted to her so far, and so that's all she needs is a little more
simple. I think she wishes they could stay out of trouble.
M. Hale Great. Thanks so much.
Moderator Next, is Lena Lamoray, LenaLamoray.com. Please go ahead.
L. Lamoray Hello.
J. Carter Hey.
L. Lamoray One of my favorite scenes from last week's episode was with
Ava and Boyd, so what is it like working with Walton and do you think
she was smart to sort of let Boyd move in?
J. Carter Working with Walton is such a wonderful experience. He's a
dynamic actor and you never worry that there won't be something on the
other side of the table coming at you. So, it's really exciting and it’s
an honor. I think in the end Ava had to do what she had to do to survive
and to have Boyd living with her it’s help ends meet and it's kind of
opened her up to really discovering who she is a little bit more. So, I
think it was a good idea.
Moderator Next, it's Christina Kovar, Maverick Media.
C. Kovar Hey Joelle, we've seen your character go from the slightly
frantic, first time we ever meet Ava, to this strong put-together woman
over the season one. How do you feel her character is going to grow
through season two?
J. Carter I think she's really still trying to discover, to accept and
to trust the shrink that's inside of her. When called out, it’s there.
It's like a second instinct. She's used to hard living and that's the
way she is, but I think she's still trying to figure it all out as we
all are usually. But, she definitely has developed and come a long way
since season one which is nice.
Moderator And next we have Nick Nunziata, CHUD.com
N. Nunziata How are you doing?
J. Carter Good thanks!
N. Nunziata When I heard of the show, right, it was an Elmore Leonard
series which immediately creates a visual image and a tone, you hear
about the star, you see the name, you see the ads and you think this is
going to be a testosterone test, a boy's show, and it is. It has all of
those things, but it surprisingly has managed to paint rather nice
intricate portraits of the female characters and I kind of want to get
what's it like being in the epicenter of that 'man storm'?
J. Carter The 'man storm'! I like it. I'm going to use that. Yes, it is!
It's a lot of testosterone. There's a lot of manly stuff out there
beneath. I think it's a challenge as it is and it is business. It's a
very male dominated business, so it's kind of a real life challenge
that's come into play in the working world. I think that the writers and
all of us have developed some really strong female characters that
complement the male testosterone that we're living in. That's what makes
it exciting, because we are the sauce, you know, the sensitive part to
their lives, but you don't mess with them and you see them stick up for
themselves and you see them call the shots. I think do us justice.
N. Nunziata Yes. Well your character in particular, I still haven't
necessarily pegged who she is and what she's going to be and that's very
rare in the show where you can usually pigeon hole almost every
character through the pilot episode, so it's a testament to Graham and
everybody that it's definitely not your average show and that everything
about it is unorthodox in terms of the current TV landscape. Was that
obvious to you guys as you started making the show and as it's evolved?
J. Carter It's become more obvious, especially with my character. I've
talked with the writers and we kind of like that sometimes we don't even
know where it's going and she doesn't know where she's going, but she is
so complex that we discover along the journey with her different things
and that's a lovely unveiling. It's been amazing to watch it unfold and
to see us kind of embrace strongly the unknown and go for it.
N. Nunziata Awesome. Thank you.
Moderator And we have a follow-up from Ernie Estrella, Buzzfocus.com.
E. Estrella Hi, Joelle. I wanted to ask, the quiet moments that have
been provided in the show with you and with Walton, the conversations
you have on the porch, in the bedroom, what is going through Ava's head
in these scenes? Maybe, you can take us into a little bit kind of deeper
into the character what she's thinking as she tries to make contact with
Boyd in the home.
J. Carter You don't see a lot of the relationship building and growing
and that was a big challenge for me because then I would have these
short scenes to do to show the audience, well this is where these people
are now, and you can imagine maybe with us that they've been
cohabitating together and learning more about each other. Just the idea
of her going up to his bedroom because maybe she's a little bored and
she knows he's there and she starts to enjoy his company a little bit
more and she calls him out to be like, it's okay if we get to know each
other a little better. I want to know more about you. And then even on
the porch, he shares some stuff with her. I found that for Ava to be a
bit more intriguing. And it's just that they're starting to get a little
more comfortable and these bad guys come. Then trouble comes up the way.
And she's like, "Well, I thought you told me you were---" I think for
her Boyd is like the audience, someone that you think you know and then
maybe you don't know completely. And I believe what we'll see as it goes
along in them really coming to realize that they know each other a lot
better than they thought they did and maybe these are the only people
that can really know each other the way they do.
E. Estrella We've all been kind of waiting for this big moment for
either one of your characters, but then in “Cottonmouth,” you both have
these really big moments and of course, we'll see a big moment. What was
the buildup maybe once you got to see the script for “Cottonmouth”? Were
you like, "Well finally, we get to really see Ava's in the mix with
J. Carter Yes. I was promised something at the beginning of the season
and it's kind of unfolding, so when you finally get to a place where
you're like, "Well, I think this is when it's happening now." Or, "This
is when she's making big decisions” it's very gratifying. Yet for Ava,
it's like when you put one foot forward and then you take a half step
back a little bit. She's trying to go forward with some of it and then,
she's not sure about some of it. So, it's a little more complicated than
just knowing exactly what you're going to play. She's confused sometimes
as I guess I am as the actress to, like, I know what this means, I know
what that means and I'm still not sure if she's a hundred percent this
way. So, it's fun; it's challenging.
E. Estrella Okay, great, thank you, Joelle.
J. Carter Thank you.
Moderator Next, we have Rachelle Thomas, Right Celebrity.
R. Thomas Hi, Joelle. Thanks for taking the time to meet with us today.
J. Carter Thank you for being here.
R. Thomas So my first question is what is it about the character of Ava
that first attracted you when you first read about her that made you
want to play her?
J. Carter I think it was the contradiction of her being this victim and
yet being so bold and strong to seduce a man right after she shot her
husband who had put her in a very trying and confined relationship for
so long. I felt like they're giving me the freedom by the way this is
written to be this soft, vulnerable character, but to have a lot of
strength to decide to live and go out and also try to figure out who she
really is. So she has to be able to discover that. It's really loaded.
R. Thomas My next question would be how did you get involved in acting
just in general?
J. Carter I was living in New York City and I dabbled in some commercial
work through my modeling and I really loved it and I just started
studying in Manhattan and I fell in love with it.
R. Thomas I think you've got us … on the show and I can't wait to see
what else is going to happen in the season.
Moderator Next, we have Susanne Lanoue with TV Megasite.
S. Lanoue Hi, Joelle. I read that you're from Georgia. I'm in Georgia
J. Carter Well good, where are you?
S. Lanoue Columbus.
J. Carter Yes! I lived in Columbus, Fort Benning.
S. Lanoue Yes, I read that you were an Army brat.
J. Carter ….
S. Lanoue Was it difficult to lose the accent?
J. Carter Because we travelled so much, it wasn't as hard as you would
think, but the problem is we always lived in Georgia throughout our
travels, so if I hear it, it comes back really fast and if I go back or
if I'm around people, it's really, if you partake in a beverage of the
alcoholic types, it definitely will come out, the twang, yes. So, a
little bit of a challenge but not as hard as maybe if I'd only lived in
the south my whole life.
Moderator And next we have Sheldon Wiebe from Eclipsemagazine.com.
S. Wiebe Hi, how are you doing?
J. Carter Good.
S. Wiebe Now, at the beginning of the show it was established that Ava
had been a cheerleader with a crush on Raylan and I kind of guessed from
there a very girly girl and she has not ended up where she thought she
would in life and you get the feeling that maybe she contributed to that
a little, but you also get the impression that she has adapted to some
very different situations even above and beyond the ones that we've seen
on the show. So, my question is could you speak to Ava's survival
instincts and the role that that plays in the series?
J. Carter Do I speak to her survival instincts?
S. Wiebe Yes.
J. Carter Well, you know, it's interesting that you mention that. I’ve
always had to do background work for Ava because there's so much of her
that hasn't been revealed yet. And I think Baumann, her husband was the
only man she ever really loved and their relationship in the beginning
was like that young true love and, unfortunately, things didn't turn out
the way they thought they were. They were the couple, you know, that
were going to leave town and make it and he just deteriorated,
deteriorated, deteriorated until alcohol and abusive and yes, it really
didn't turn out the way they thought. And there’s a scene in the first
season where she says she did try to leave, I think because she did love
him and those relationships are really complicated, abusive
relationships, where you think you're strong enough to do it and then
you don't and then you come back and then they won't let you go and it's
just--- it was a lot that she went through in that one relationship and
that's why I feel like when she finds Raylan, she is like, "Oh this is a
ticket out. And I've always had kind of these feelings for this guy and
maybe I can go back to all of these dreams that I thought I wanted.” And
I believe in the first season we kind of see she realizes, "Maybe I have
to figure out what my new dreams are because those old dreams aren't
going to work."
S. Wiebe Thank you very much.
Moderator Ernie Estrella from Focus.com.
E. Estrella Have you talked with Elmore about Ava and where he kind of
had this vision of your character and were you able to kind of work in
would you’d like to see as the season's gone on?
J. Carter Have I talked to Elmore to see where he would like to see Ava
go as the season goes on? No, I haven't. I have gotten messages through
other ---Tim …for season one and he said he adored the character of Ava
and what we were doing with her, so that's a big, big compliment. I'm
sure that other people that have been writing and I know that Tim gets
to talk with him some, I'm not sure if they've talked about Ava. I know
originally the short story was just a short story. So, I'm not sure if
he ever wrote any other episodes or any other short stories with Ava in
them. But he seems very happy with the way we're going.
E. Estrella Okay, and then you can also talk about the difference of
your interactions with Timothy from last season where you're kind of in
this blind romance and then this season, every time you see Timothy on
the same scene, you're kind of lashing out at him or you've got your
rattler snake out.
J. Carter My claws out. You know what's interesting about the first two
scenes that we had together when he comes to the porch and he's actually
looking for Boyd, his character could have gone anywhere to find Boyd,
but I believe he wanted to see if I was okay and he wanted to kind of
warn me, he wanted me to not like do that, not let him live with me and
he was wanting to make sure it wasn't because I was trying to punish
him. I think a little bit she was, she knew that that he wouldn’t like
that but it comes down to the end is that he would was making a choice
not to be a part of her life. So, this is a woman that lives in the
moment and she has to go on.
In some of the other scenes, we were interested in a way that kind of
interacts. I think it’s more of the circumstance of what’s happening and
how they feel about what's happening in the circumstance and maybe they
feel the other person should be doing something different. I don't think
these two people hate each other. He might be disappointed in some of
the choices that she's making. She's still disappointed.
I think Ava really fell hard for Raylan. She's still got some scars
there that she has to deal with it. Sometimes love and hate are really
E. Estrella One last one. Is there any chance that we'll see you in any
scenes with Natalie? … last year kind of a moment of tension. Will there
be a Winona-Ava thing?
J. Carter There won't be any Winona-Ava, well, yes we are in one scene
together of unspoken words. So, yes you will see one.
E. Estrella Thank you.
Moderator And there are no additional questions in queue.
J. Carter Okay.
D. Pagone Great. Well Joelle, thank you very much for taking the time
J. Carter Thank you.
D. Pagone And thanks for everyone for being on the call and have a great
J. Carter Yes, stay tuned.
D. Pagone And watch Justified.
J. Carter 'Bye.
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