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By Suzanne

Adam Berry and Amy Bruni of "Ghost Hunters"

Interview with Adam Berry and Amy Bruni of "Ghost Hunters" on Syfy 8/15/11

This was an interesting one for me because I've never seen the show, I don't really like reality shows, and I don't believe in ghosts!  So I struggled to come up with some good questions, but I think I did have success, in the end...see if you agree! :)

Syfy Conference Call
Ghost Hunters
Adam Berry and Amy Bruni

August 15, 2011 1:00 pm CT

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Syfy Ghost Hunters conference call. During the presentation all participants will be in a listen only mode. Afterwards we will conduct a question and answer session.

At that time if you have a question please press the 1 followed by the 4 on your telephone. If at any time during the conference you need to reach an operator please press star 0. As a reminder this conference is being recorded Monday, August 15, 2011. I would now like to turn the conference over to Thomas Dima. Please go ahead.

Thomas Dima: Hi guys. Thank you for joining us today for the Ghost Hunters call. We have investigator Amy Bruni on the line along with investigator Adam Berry. And we want to thank you for joining us for the mid-season return of Ghost Hunters, which is Wednesday, August 24th at 9:00 pm Eastern Time. So if weíre ready to begin with questions letís go right ahead.

Operator: And ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder if you would like to register for a question please press the 1 followed by the 4 on your telephone. Our first question comes from the line of Jim Iacino from Media Boulevard Magazine. Please go ahead.

Jim Iaccino: Hey guys. Howís it going?

Amy Bruni: Good.

Adam Berry: Good.

Jim Iaccino: Cool. First of all Adam, congratulations on making the Ghost Hunters team. I watched your performance in Ghost Hunters Academy and can you just tell me what your experience has been like now on the team and working with Amy primarily?

Adam Berry: Yes. Itís a lot more low key, thatís for sure. I donít have to worry about anybody trying to stomp all over me or stab me in the back or anything like that - no sabotage.

Itís actually a really nice breath of fresh air and Bruni keeps me right on track to where I need to be.

Jim Iaccino: Cool. Amy, would you want to add anything to that?

Amy Bruni: I actually couldnít think of a better person to work with than Adam. It was great. As soon as he showed up it was like instantly we got along. And I kind of knew we would because he started emailing before he ever came out because we knew that he had won Ghost Hunters Academy and would be joining us. And so we started emailing and the first thing he told me was that I was fierce. And so I knew weíd get along after that.

Adam Berry: Yes. I was like youíre fierce and insane and thatís all that needed to be.

Jim Iaccino: You did mention it was more low key now and Iím sure that with all these intense investigations that you occasionally have some humorous moments. Would you mind sharing one that you and Amy, Adam or Amy too, that you had together?

Adam Berry: I mean sheís always teasing me and playing tricks on me without me knowing it because Iím very gullible at times. And so sheíll say things to me and Iíll believe her immediately. And then sheís like no, Iím not being for real of course.

Amy Bruni: We just did an investigation recently where I stuck all this gaff tape on Adamís back and he investigated all night with this gaff tape on his back.

Adam Berry: Yes.

Amy Bruni: And when he finally found it he was like how long has that been there and I said itís been at least four hours and itís totally going to be on television.

Adam Berry: Yes. Gaff tape.

Jim Iaccino: Thatís great. Thanks guys.

Amy Bruni: Of course.

Adam Berry: Thank you.

Operator: And our next question comes from the line of Diane Morasco from Please go ahead.

Diane Morasco: Hi Amy, hi Adam. I just wanted to thank you so much and congratulations to Adam. My questions are has the belief in the paranormal been with you since you were children? And if not, when did it begin for the both of you?

Amy Bruni: Well, for me it was since I was a child. My dad and I used to investigate together when I was like 10-years-old. So itís been a long time. I grew up in a house that had seemingly paranormal activity and thatís when I got interested in it.

So my dad and I went to the library and we checked out all these books on spiritualism and paranormal investigations and we had this really crappy tape recorder and weíd try to get EVPs and then weíd start going to cemeteries and local historical sites. And it was really kind of a bonding experience.

And then I just kept on doing it and it was one of those things when I was in junior high and high school people made fun of me for it and now itís a lot more out in the open so itís very different. But yes, itís been a lifelong thing for me effectively.

Adam Berry: Yes. I would have to agree. When I was a kid I loved things that go bump in the night, anything scary, anything scary movies, Halloween and all that.

And so I knew something was out there but I didnít have my first ghostly encounter until I was after college. So I had a later start but I always had a drive for it, a passion for it to find out what exactly it is. And itís progressed from there and I canít wait to find out what really lies behind that closet door. What is it?

Amy Bruni: (Thatís true).

Diane Morasco: I have to ask what do you expect and where do you expect your passion in the paranormal to go in say the next I donít know 10-15 years?

Amy Bruni: Thatís a good one.

Adam Berry: Yes.

Amy Bruni: I know that I never expected it to become something that I could almost make a career of because thatís really not why anybody does it. Itís not normally a field that you can expect to make a living from.

So Iím really enjoying being able to travel the country and do what I love right now. And I know itís not forever obviously but I know that afterwards Iíll still be investigating because I did for so many years beforehand. Iím hoping eventually to get into maybe like writing a book or just something getting into the more educational side of it. And it will always be something that I do in sort of capacity but itís very unpredictable.

Adam Berry: Yes. I would have to agree. The thing is itís always changing. Itís an ever changing field because there are new researchers and new techniques and new things happening.

So oddly weíll never really know until weíre actually 15 years from now saying wow, I canít believe itís gone this far or progressed in this way. And Iím excited just for the future.

Diane Morasco: Thank you. And my last question - what has been your scariest bump in the night moment?

Amy Bruni: Well, I know for me it wasnít a ghost, we were investigating and it was this old jail in New Jersey and I basically was in the tunnels and I found this kind of manhole cover.

And I lifted up the cover and I stood up into this room that we didnít really know existed. It was this old boiler room. And I had stood up in a homeless manís house. He was there, I was there, we looked at each other and I was like I should not be here. And I just went right back down and turned to the camera operator and was like letís not go that way.

Adam Berry: (Thatís odd).

Amy Bruni: That doesnít happen very often because these locations are usually very, very secure but when youíre in a massive complex like that the buildings weíre investigating have actually been secured and there is nobody in there.

But this was just some area that was way off the beaten path and they never went in that building. So yes, that was a little scary. Iím more afraid of people than animals.

Adam Berry: Thatís true and I have to say that the moment that Amy and I had was at Benhurst Asylum upstairs. And we thought that crazy animals at the end of the hallway.

That was frightening because we didnít know what it was. Absolutely. And we couldnít even find the animals. Didnít find the animal, didnít find what it was. So who knows? That was a freaky moment and also when we were in Hawaii the whole tsunami thing was absolutely the most terrifying experience.

Amy Bruni: Of course.

Adam Berry: And sometimes itís not ghostly thatís freaking us out.

Amy Bruni: Yes. Iíll take ghosts over any of that stuff any day.

Adam Berry: Yes. I will too, absolutely.

Diane Morasco: Thank you guys so much and I wish you the best of luck.

Amy Bruni: Thank you.

Adam Berry: Thanks.

Diane Morasco: Youíre welcome.

Operator: And our next question comes from the line of Beth Beacham from the Please go ahead.

Beth Beacham: Hi Amy. Hi Adam. Thank you so much for talking to us this morning.

Amy Bruni: Of course.

Adam Berry: Youíre welcome.

Beth Beacham: I have a couple questions. First of all, I was curious how you guys are ghost hunters so you guys have seen a lot. But when Halloween comes around what do you guys do to celebrate Halloween?

Amy Bruni: Well, we do the live show.

Adam Berry: Yes.

Amy Bruni: Weíre very into the month of October. Thatís kind of like for us the Christmas season for retailer. We are so busy. Every weekend we have something to do and then we have to prepare for the live show.

And it gets so exciting. There is always this buzz about that month for us. And every Halloween we are ghost hunting so itís like we are doing what we love on Halloween night, which is great. So thatís how we celebrate.

Adam Berry: Yes. Itís a month-long celebration. I absolutely love Halloween, I love everything about it. I love the fall, I love the sweatshirts and apple cider - like come on, everything about it.

And I canít think of a better way than being in a dark crazy place with Amy Bruni for six hours on television. Canít think of a better thing to be doing.

Beth Beacham: Is there anything in your real lives that you find scarier than your investigations?

Adam Berry: Thatís a good question.

Amy Bruni: What was the question? Iím sorry I missed it.

Beth Beacham: Is there anything in your real lives that you find scarier than the stuff that you encounter on your investigations?

Amy Bruni: Geez. Some of our travel was pretty scary. We have had some when we were out at Mackinac Island taking the icebreaker ferry across the lake and then realizing we were stranded there and couldnít take the ferry back.

And had to fly out on this little four-seat plane and it took like 16 trips to take all of our equipment back and forth. And that kind of stuff is scary. We were driving across the country at that time in the middle of these crazy snow storms and we almost went off the road and had to pull over and stay at a hotel. And that stuff terrifies me. Thatís the one thing that scares me.

Adam Berry: Yes. Actually and to add to that a couple of months later we thought the worst of the winter was over and we were driving up to Maine to do Fort Knox and literally the drive should have taken us two hours and it took us 4-1/2 hours because of the snow storm that happened.

But we had to get there because we had nowhere to stop. We couldnít see anything. Blinding snow - itís terrifying.

Amy Bruni: It was. We were trying to calm each other down. Weíll be fine. Weíll be fine.

Adam Berry: Totally fine. And then we get there and weíre like yes, now weíre fine.

Beth Beacham: So I think those are great answers because I kind of did a little bit of ghost hunting myself last year and the location, the city was actually scarier than the actual location. So I kind of thought that was interesting.

Amy Bruni: Yes.


Adam Berry: Yes. Some hotels we stay at Iím like should we be investigating here? Like somethingís crazy.

Beth Beacham: Yes.

Amy Bruni: Some of the buildings we investigate, theyíre in parts of town that arenít always desirable because theyíre run down and old and there are a few instances where we have had criminal activity happening very close to us, gunshots, things like that.

Adam Berry: Gunshots. Gunfire.

Amy Bruni: I wonít name any place in particular but yes, that has happened.

Adam Berry: Yes.

Beth Beacham: And then I had another curiousity because I know you guys are never going to run out of places to investigate. But have you guys heard of the story of Robert the haunted doll and have you guys done any investigations on that?

Amy Bruni: I have met Robert the haunted doll. Heís in Key West, right, or Florida somewhere? Yes. This is interesting because I know heís on some island and they took him off the island to come to a convention that I went to a few years ago, this is before I was even on the show.

And this doll was creepy. They brought him in and everybody was wearing gloves carrying him in and he was a celebrity. Jay and Grant were there, they were invisible. Everybody wanted to see this doll. And they brought him in and they sat him down onto the display and there were some people trying to broadcast like their radio broadcast next to him.

And all their equipment just kept malfunctioning and nothing would work. So they finally moved to the other side of the room and everything worked just fine. And the people kept saying that they were taking pictures of this doll and they werenít turning out. So I would like to have investigated him a little bit more but he was in a big convention setting. But it was really interesting to see him. Itís a strange story for sure.

Adam Berry: Yes. Definitely a creepy little doll, sailor outfit and all.

Amy Bruni: Heís not little. Heís like as big as a kid. Itís weird.

Adam Berry: Itís so weird. Iím looking at pictures right now online. Itís really awful.

Beth Beacham: And then my last question - whatís your favorite scary movie and why, both you and Adam?

Amy Bruni: Mine is The Shining for sure and I think itís just the creepy factor and the fact that Stephen Kingís book was inspired by real experiences he had when he stayed at The Stanley.

And so it led to this great movie and Stanley Kubrick directed it and I just love that movie. I can watch it over and over and over again. That would have to be my favorite.

Adam Berry: Yes. I would have to say Iím not a fan at all of any kind of slasher films. Sometimes itís too gross for me and I canít deal with it. So anything psychologically thrilling, anything thatís messing with your brain thatís crazy.

And I also enjoy old Hollywood B movies, scary movies like House on Haunted Hill even though itís kind of creepy and you see the string and you see the ghost. But itís hilarious and itís the start of all horror films. I absolutely love that.

Beth Beacham: Okay. Well, thank you guys and congratulations on another season.

Amy Bruni: Thank you.

Adam Berry: Thank you.

Operator: And our next question comes from the line of Catherine Burke with Please go ahead.

Catherine Burke: Hi Amy and Adam. How are you guys doing today?

Amy Bruni: Good.

Adam Berry: Good.

Catherine Burke: Excellent, excellent. Just a few questions real quick - when youíre in the haunted house and youíre in the middle of an investigation with the things that do go bump in the night, are there any like little rituals or personal routines you kind of do to handle your nerves?

Amy Bruni: I donít personally. I know some people they like to say a prayer before they go in or they bring something with them that they think is protection to them. And I donít do that. I donít know about Adam but Grant has always said this to me for years.

And itís basically that if you have something that can be taken away so youíll feel weak. If for some reason you forget your religious medal or you forget to say your prayers, are you superstitious about it and suddenly you feel vulnerable? So I just go in and Iím strong and I just assume that nothing is going to be able to hurt me and nothing has.

And I just continue that way. And when things are happening I donít really have any ritual because at that point Iím just probably laughing and swearing like a sailor.

Adam Berry: Yes. I think we load up on caffeine, thatís for sure. We load up on coffee, five-hour energy drink, candy and then we go. And one of the first things Grant ever told me was exactly what Amy said.

So ever since that day we just go in with our heads held high and our eyes open and ready for anything.

Catherine Burke: Thatís great. That is awesome. All right, so the next question - I know you guys have a season that is coming up right now and weíre very excited about it. In your opinion, what makes this upcoming season stand above like the past seasons that youíve done?

Amy Bruni: The evidence. I know that we have been using some new especially full spectrum cameras and we have just gotten some crazy evidence this season. And I know that even Steve has said that this as far as evidence goes is the best evidence heís seen since he started with Pat.

So I think as the equipment progresses our ability to collect evidence progresses and it has been pretty crazy. And also as we go further people start bringing more locations to us that have consistent and constant paranormal activity. So weíre basically really lucky in that way that we get to go to these amazing locations. And I just feel like the activity is really perking up this season.

Catherine Burke: Thatís exciting.

Adam Berry: Hands down, absolutely.

Catherine Burke: Wow. Okay. Great. And just one final question - I know you just mentioned TAPS and since í04 itís just really progressed and just come a long way. And kind of in reference to like where you guys are going to be 15 years like before but where do you see like that organization in the next few years because itís grown so fast already?

Amy Bruni: I donít know. I think TAPS will always be around in some form or another. And I think what Jay and Grant have been able to do with, especially the TAPS family groups, is really important to the field and thatís because there are so many groups out there.

And they have been able to select groups with a similar mentality as ours. Weíre able to refer people to them and weíre confident in their ability to handle cases because obviously we canít do them all. And so I think that thatís just going to grow and grow over the next few years. And so I think thatís one of the great byproducts of the show. And hopefully that kind of trend continues.

Adam Berry: Yes. Unless people stop ghost hunting I feel like itíll just get bigger and bigger.

Amy Bruni: Yes. They havenít stopped since 1848.

Adam Berry: Yes. Exactly. There are always ghosts.

Catherine Burke: All right. Excellent. Well, thank you so much for your time.

Amy Bruni: Youíre welcome.

Adam Berry: Thank you.

Operator: And our next question comes from the line of Ryan Hydett from Please go ahead.

Ryan Hydett: Hi guys. Thanks for talking with us today. First of all I just want to say Iím a big fan of the show. And I got to interview Griffith a couple of weeks ago so he was pretty cool.

What is it like or we get to see a short amount of what you guys are doing when you go to a location. How long does it actually take letís say when you go to Mayfield Reformatory or Eastern State? What is an investigation actually like as far as length is concerned?

Amy Bruni: Itís long. Depending on the time of year, especially the winter months when it gets darker sooner, we get there pretty early. Weíre usually rolling up anywhere from 1:00-3:00 in the afternoon and weíre there until 5:00 or 6:00 in the morning.

And some nights we do two nights or some investigations are so large weíll do two nights but you really canít tell on the show. They usually play it as though we were there for only one night. But itís a very long process because we go in, Jay, Grant and Steve go on the tour, and we unpack the van at that time.

And they come back out and Steve tells us where to put the cameras. We go in, put the cameras and thatís the longest part is the cameras and the cabling. So youíre looking at least an hour or two of set up. And then as soon as it gets dark we go in there and we start investigating and it just goes on and on and on. And especially larger locations where we can all investigate at once, itís a process but itís a lot of fun.

Adam Berry: Yes, absolutely. And of course it continues after that. Itís all about going over the evidence and you have days of review to do and itís very, very exciting because every case is like a little Christmas present that you get to open and unwrap very slowly and then you find out.

Amy Bruni: Very slowly.

Adam Berry: Yes. Itís like take the ribbon off and then youíre like tada, evidence. And itís really just a lot of fun.

Amy Bruni: Yes and each case usually takes a week or two so weíre in that area for a week or two between the investigation, the analysis, the researching, all that.

Ryan Hydett: Now, you guys talk about reviewing the evidence and you get hundreds of hours of footage. How do you keep yourselves entertained when youíre staring at the same wall for hours at a time hoping to see one instance of something paranormal?

Amy Bruni: Itís all about breaks. So we try to spread it out. We try to only do three or four hours of review at a time and take a break, get out, breathe some fresh air, see the sun every once in a while and go back at it.

Adam Berry: Right.

Amy Bruni: So yes, itís definitely a tedious process and I will admit it is the worst part of the process for me. I hate reviewing except when I find something. And when you find something youíre like okay, this was worth it. Thank god.

Adam Berry: Right. It also goes for the investigation itself because first off, youíre in a place where you canít believe youíre actually here. Some places we get access that no one gets access to.

Youíre overwhelmed by that so when going through the evidence you kind of imagine what was happening and you put yourself in that position again when youíre listening to the audio or watching the video. And you try to relive it. So youíre basically in the investigation, in this world for a week at a time and I think thatís what keeps me going.

Ryan Hydett: Okay. And you guys must be getting recognized by fans on the street. What is that like?

Amy Bruni: Itís actually not so bad because it wouldnít be bad in the first place but weíre seen in night vision so much that half the world or half of our viewers donít realize that Iím a redhead. They think I have blonde hair.

Theyíll meet me in person and go when did you dye your hair and Iím like Iíve always had red hair. And so it does happen especially as they see us more and more in color. And all of our fans are really great. They always want to share their stories and their experiences and they feel safe telling us these things.

And so itís always very nice and I have yet to have a fan encounter that was uncomfortable or strange. It usually happens a couple times a day. Itís not anything crazy.

Adam Berry: Yes. I only get recognized when Iím with Amy. So I donít know what thatís like.

Ryan Hydett: All right. Last question on the opposite end of the spectrum of fame, how do you deal with skeptics?

Amy Bruni: Well, honestly sometimes I feel that being a skeptic is healthy, being a healthy skeptic. But then there are some that I think are almost taking it too far.

And itís hard to pinpoint what Iím trying to say but I just think some of them take it too far and theyíre very extreme in their skepticism and theyíre not open to anything. A ghost could walk up to them and tap them on the shoulder and theyíd still try to think of some sort of alternative explanation for it.

Adam Berry: Yes.

Amy Bruni: So thatís a little tough but at the same time, we are not out to prove ourselves. What we do is we collect our evidence, we investigate, we try to help our clients and we show what we find. And then we just kind of leave it up to everybody else to make their call on it.

We say hey, weíve got this, we were able to explain this but this weíre not quite sure on. So thatís what we have and you make your own call on it. So weíre not out to prove ourselves or turn skeptics. We just like to keep an open mind about it and entertain the notion that there might be something beyond what we think is there.

Adam Berry: Yes. Youíll believe it when you see it.

Amy Bruni: Exactly.

Ryan Hydett: Thanks guys.

Operator: And our next question comes from the line of Lynn Packet with Scifivision. Please go ahead.

Lynn Packet: Thank you. Thanks for talking to us today. I really appreciate it.

Amy Bruni: Of course. Thank you.

Lynn Packet: My first question is do you ever fear bringing something home when you go on these locations?

Amy Bruni: It hasnít happened to me yet and I donít know. I canít speak for Adam but I know Iím not really afraid of it and it hasnít happened. And I know some people say that it can.

Any time something weird happens around me though everybody wants to blame it on me. But I know Jay actually at one point there was reportedly this ghost of a little boy at a mill they investigated and he said hey, I have kids at home so if you want to come visit and play with my son, feel free. So he actually invited this thing home.

And nothing happened, nothing followed him home or anything but it was funny because his wife didnít realize that he had done that. And she saw the episode and was so furious.

Adam Berry: Yes. I donít think anything has followed me home yet, knock on wood. And I think if they did itíd just be like investigating. Youíd tell them to leave, tell them to get out. Theyíre not welcome or leave me alone. So I think itíd be easy to get rid of.

Lynn Packet: Do you guys ever get like from a site - any particular location ever freak you out that when you get home that you might call another team member outside of the location for support?

Amy Bruni: I know we get really excited and we call each other about investigations.

Adam Berry: Yes.

Amy Bruni: There have been some where just afterwards weíre just buzzing. Youíre on at 6:00 in the morning and youíre still wide awake because youíre so excited about everything that happened.

And we have had a few of those in the last few weeks where just the whole way home weíre like oh my gosh, I canít believe this happened and this happened. So yes, thatís probably the closest thing to it I can think of.

Adam Berry: Yes, absolutely.

Lynn Packet: Now that you guys are so popular, youíve got all your - are you often approached with people to try out some new equipment? Or do you have one person or team that develops your equipment for you?

Amy Bruni: People do send us things and we do keep an eye on the field because we do investigate a lot outside of the show and talk to and network with a lot of other investigators that are doing some very amazing things.

One of the great things about the show is it has brought in some people who are very qualified and very scientific and able to design these devices beyond what we have ever been able to do. And so we definitely experiment with things like that. We wait to bring them on the show usually until they have produced some kind of evidence for us.

So we donít want to experiment with things on the show necessarily just because weíre aware of the fact that when people see us use something theyíre going to run out and buy it. And so we know paranormal investigation is probably one of the most expensive hobbies you can have. So before we use something on the show we want to make sure that there is a chance for it to actually produce some sort of tangible result.

So we do get sent things on a regular basis. And weíre always very thankful for that.

Adam Berry: Yes. Iíd say at events and things where people come to ghost hunt and be with us, they bring the most creative and almost weird-looking, unique things. And if it works itís good for the entire field. Itís good for us, itís good for everyone.

Lynn Packet: I canít wait for the new season to start. My auntís your biggest fan too. Sheís like counting the minutes.

Amy Bruni: Awesome. We canít wait either.

Lynn Packet: Sheís like if sheís not there itís recorded. I can guarantee it. Are there any sites in the new season coming out that stick out more than any - more fun, more evidence gathered than any of the others?

Amy Bruni: Hillview Manor - that was a great investigation. And I think thatís the second episode when we come back and it was great. And Pearl Harbor obviously, tying that up.

Lynn Packet: That was a great show.

Amy Bruni: Yes. So there have been quite a few standout investigations. We canít talk about all of them yet but Hillview definitely.

Lynn Packet: So I know she wonít be coming over here for dinner.


Lynn Packet: My last question is we had one of our Twitter fans ask do you know if theyíll be airing and I know you probably donít have all the airing things but in Newfoundland? Do you know if theyíll be airing any episodes in that area soon?

Amy Bruni: I donít know. That would be a question for you guys.

Lynn Packet: That would be great. Thank you very much and thank you so much for talking to us.

Amy Bruni: Of course.

Adam Berry: Youíre welcome.

Lynn Packet: We look forward to the new season and congratulations Adam.

Adam Berry: Thank you very much.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder to register for a question please press the 1 followed by the 4 on your telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Katia Bakko with Scholastic Scope Please go ahead.

Katia Bakko: Hi. Thanks everybody for chatting with us. Itís really great. So what I wanted to ask about actually is the episode on Pearl Harbor that ended before the break and then picks up again.

That one scene where you guys do that flashlight technique Iím just wondering if you can talk a little bit about what you thought was happening that night and how to make sense of it because I notice that it didnít get resolved in that episode where you guys did a review and stuff. So can you just talk a little bit about that since Amy, you were there?

Amy Bruni: Yes. Hereís the deal with the flashlight technique. Itís something weíve been experimenting with for quite a long time. And what we have discovered is the deal with the flashlights is when you use a mag light and you basically turn it to where itís almost to a point where it would turn on. So itís very easy to turn on.

And we set that down and what weíve noticed is that there is a natural way for them to turn on and off using that technique. And itís that the element inside expands as it cools down, touches, turns the flashlight on as it warms up, it turns back off. Once we discovered that we realized we couldnít use one flashlight any more.

So we started experimenting using multiple flashlights and youíll see in upcoming episodes weíll have four or five going at once as opposed to one. And in that way we can turn, if the answer is yes, turn on the purple flashlight or turn on the black flashlight. And when it starts turning on exactly the flashlight weíre asking for then we speculate that weíre getting some sort of response from something.

And so that was what we were doing there. I believe we had two or three different flashlights.

Katia Bakko: (Yes, I think there were three of them).

Amy Bruni: Yes. The flashlights went on and off a couple times but beyond that they just kept moving no matter what we did. And then we would set it down and hit the bench and they wouldnít move.

And so I donít know if something was trying to move the flashlight or trying to turn it on and it moved instead. But it did happen a couple times and we couldnít recreate it without touching the flashlight and making it move ourselves. So there is that. But weíre really trying to narrow down the results with that.

It for some reason seems to work and really resonate and I donít know why. But we try to make it as controlled as possible. We ask control questions. We try to trick it, try to verify if something is actually interacting with us. And we love doing that and then having an EMF meter there.

We have had sessions where the K2s next to a flashlight going off at the same time or weíll capture EVPs while weíre doing the flashlight technique. So itís really interesting stuff for sure.

Katia Bakko: And then I think when you get that kind of response Iím just wondering what kind of response that you can get is the one that makes you the most excited? Are the flashlights a particularly exciting response to get or is there another kind of thing?

Amy Bruni: With the flashlights I get chilled when they are dead on. You have to really see it in person. Itís hard sometimes on the show to really see what itís like because the flashlights, we can tell when theyíre not working, when nothing is using them.

But sometimes weíll have these half an hour, 45-minute interactions with this thing where they are just dead on. Iím saying, weíll pick a specific color will come on.

Weíll assign a yes and a no flashlight and a maybe flashlight and we just start having these conversations back and forth. And itís crazy. For it to just turn on every time you ask for it as opposed to just kind of randomly turning on. And when you ask it to turn off it turns right off and turns on and off twice, blink, blink. Itís crazy to me.

Adam Berry: Yes.

Amy Bruni: So I donít know why it works so well and I know itís one of our most controversial ghost hunting techniques. But it works for some reason and I stand by it.

Katia Bakko: Why do you think itís the most controversial?

Amy Bruni: People watch it and they just donít believe it. And I realize it seems unbelievable, that lights are going on and off on their own. And Iíve read so many different blogs and people write me, you have a remote control, you have this. And Iím like no we do not. And I wish I could tell you why it works so well but I canít.

And I really just think itís this universal - itís a light. Itís so easy and I think thatís why it works well because itís simple, itís easy to understand and I think thatís part of it.

Katia Bakko: Cool. And then the other thing I wanted to ask and this is like I know a really simpleton question but how come just can you explain like why the investigations are better done in the dark and at night rather than during the day?

Amy Bruni: Adam Berry, bring out that GHA expertise.

Adam Berry: There are a lot of things. Obviously ghosts are around at all times. You can investigate during the day. Like I was in Provincetown with a group of my friends and we were investigating during the day last week.

So you can ghost hunt any time but at night there are a lot of different things that will help you. Itís quiet, the noise outside, traffic, anything construction - itís quieter, everyone is asleep. Also when youíre in the dark your senses are a little more heightened, youíre more aware with your ears and your smell and your body.

And it seems like you know, youíre just a little more attentive to whatís going on around you. Also, itís really spooky and itís a lot of fun in the dark. And itís a lot of fun in the dark. Itís more fun to ghost hunt in the dark than it is during the day time. But thatís pretty much why we do it, because itís quieter and weíre more aware of whatís going on.

Amy Bruni: Plus there are a lot of light anomalies that are more easily seen in the dark including shadow figures strangely enough. So that is a big part of it as well.

Katia Bakko: And then the last thing I just wanted to ask is whether or not each of you has ever done an investigation in a place that you have lived or like places where your friends live, where you have actually done personal work in that way?

Amy Bruni: Yes. I investigated my parentsí house for them and I took my sister with me and we actually caught some pretty crazy EVP and it was really interesting. So yes, definitely and actually what I would love to do one day is the house I grew up in that really started this all for me. I would love to go back there with the TAPS team and investigate it for real because back then I was just a kid and I had no idea what I was doing. So now I think itíd be so fun to go back with the team and investigate it.

Katia Bakko: Cool.

Adam Berry: Yes. I tend to have the belief of donít investigate your own house or your own where you live just because youíre interacting with something that you think might stir up more activity.

And if you want that, thatís cool. But I tend to try to keep my work at work. So if something is going on at my house Iíll acknowledge it but I will try to not communicate with it. And the only thing Iíd have to say like I just found out that there is a mental hospital in Tuscaloosa, Alabama because Iím from Alabama originally.

And theyíre going to tear it down. But I just found out that my great-great-grandmother went there for two months and died and they donít know why she died. Sheís buried on the property. They say itís completely haunted, itís crazy. There was a big article on it and I would love to get there before they tear it down just because I didnít know she was there, I had no idea.

And now all these things are happening and Iím just researching this new property. So you never know. That would be the only thing that I would investigate that I would have a family connection to.

Katia Bakko: Cool. Actually can I sneak in one more question if thatís okay? I just want to know how much historical research you guys actually do before you leave for a property and like how much you rely on stuff like that?

Adam Berry: Amy Bruni.

Amy Bruni: Yes well, I am the teamís researcher and what we do is we usually have a general overview of the location before we go. We compile a very high level amount of the history and the activity thatís taking place there.

And we go in with that information. Then after we do the investigation I go do more hard core research and go to the local historical society, go to the library, try to verify many of the stories weíve been told. And this is the way Jay and Grant like to do things is we do that because we donít want what historical information we already know going in to sway our investigation.

Because many times weíll get evidence that doesnít necessarily correlate with what a client has told us. But then when we go back and do the research we find out something new that they didnít know. So it is very intensive. Itís usually a day or two and I use a lot of web sites like, things like that.

And then I actually go in and interview people and try to get more information on the place.

Katia Bakko: Cool. Thank you guys so much. Congratulations.

Amy Bruni: No problem. Thank you.

Operator: And our next question comes from the line of Troy Rogers with the Please go ahead.

Troy Rogers: Hi Amy, hi Adam.

Amy Bruni: Hi.

Adam Berry: Hi.

Troy Rogers: Now out of the first three episodes back Hillview Manor sounds the scariest. What was the vibe like in the nursing home?

Adam Berry: Oh god.

Amy Bruni: It is creepy. I mean it really is and the history there is kind of crazy and it was surprisingly complete. Many times when we go into a location like that there is no power, there are walls gone and leaks and I mean there were some leaks and things.

But it was pretty put together still and so we were able to get all our equipment up with no problems. But just the stories there were so awful. Sometimes you go into these places and you know what has happened there already and itís hard not to be sad because you know this is how many people have died there and what they went through.

Yes, it was one of the first investigations where I went off by myself. I went down to the boiler room for like an hour and just sat there by myself and talked to whatever was there. And it was pretty scary.

Adam Berry: Yes. It definitely was cold, dark and I think it was the first investigation in a long time that Amy and I put on masks because some hallways were so damp, there was mold and crazy things that we always put ourselves in crazy situations but this was heightened a little bit just because of our surroundings.

Amy Bruni: Yes, for sure.

Troy Rogers: Okay. And can you talk about the loudest evidence you guys ever recorded at the (Teaview Terrace) site?

Amy Bruni: Iím trying to remember - that was so long ago but I do know there was some really crazy sound we captured there. And I donít think anybody heard it. And so we donít know what it was or where it came from.

And yes, it was pretty crazy and youíll have to hear it to believe it. It sounded like a dump truck or something. But yes, that location was just really cool just because it was the dark shadows house. And I would like to live there.

Adam Berry: Yes. I couldnít honestly believe that one family owned it. Itís massive. The scale of it, you can get lost in it if you didnít know which way you were going. And the history behind it was all very exciting.

Troy Rogers: Okay. Well, speaking of one family home, what was the most interesting thing that happened when you guys investigated that elderly man in the urgent episode?

Adam Berry: Well, they got called away, Jay and Grant got called away for the case. So Amy and I - we werenít even involved just because we were still on the island. We were still in Hawaii.

Troy Rogers: So you guys didnít - you werenít part of that investigation, right?

Amy Bruni: No. We were roughing it in Hawaii while they ran back to Rhode Island for an urgent case.

Adam Berry: Yeah right.

Amy Bruni: Because we had to close things up on our end like Tango and I had to go do the review and it was just definitely an experience we had never had before. Suddenly by the end of the case we were by ourselves.

Adam Berry: Yes.

Amy Bruni: And so Iím not sure how that plays out but yes, it was interesting.

Adam Berry: Yes but when there is a kid involved, when there is a family or a child involved it is priority. So they had to go and we were okay to tie up the loose ends in Hawaii.

Amy Bruni: Yes, for sure.

Troy Rogers: Okay. Excellent. Thanks again you guys.

Amy Bruni: No problem.

Adam Berry: Thank you.

Operator: And our next question comes from the line of Suzanne Lanoue from the TV MegaSite. Please go ahead.

Suzanne Lanoue: Hi. I was wondering, youíre coming up on the eighth season of the show. Youíre the longest running reality show on SyFy and the show has been parodied by a number of TV shows. How does it feel to be a part of what is basically an institution now on television?

Amy Bruni: Itís surreal in that any of us fully realize it because weíre just all doing our normal thing. And then every once in a while something comes along like South Park and youíre reminded that we are televised every week.

Adam Berry: Yes. Amy definitely runs out of the building just like that with arms up.

Amy Bruni: Iím just like that - very two dimensional, screaming.

Adam Berry: Very two dimensional - exactly.

Amy Bruni: So itís flattering, itís surreal, itís crazy. Iím going on my fourth year now with the team and it doesnít feel like you think it would because I think all of us are just so normal.

And I think we all try to remain very down to earth and just kind of do our thing. But every once in a while weíll meet a fan or something who is so excited and passionate about the show and it really just kind of drives it home. So I think it makes us all very happy and I think weíre a very good representation of what we do.

Suzanne Lanoue: That actually follows into my next question, which is have you had any unusual fan encounters?

Adam Berry: No. I mean not for me personally. I think everyone is very, very nice and especially at events and things where theyíre investigating and weíre all investigating together.

Weíre working together as a team and I think the coolest thing is you can take eight people that do not know each other at all and you can investigate a haunted location without any prep. I mean you are all passionate about it and you have a drive to do it. And I think for the most part everyone is very, very nice. I havenít had that stalker moment yet, though.

Amy Bruni: I know I just did Wizard World in Chicago this weekend and met so many great fans. And one of them really stands out. It was this girl and she came up and she just could not speak.

She was so painfully shy and she just kept saying you donít understand how much I admire you and I love that especially women are kind of inspired by Kris and me just because weíre out there doing what we love. And itís caused them to go out and start teams and I love that. And she came up and she was just so shy and couldnít get a word out.

And almost in tears and I gave her a big hug and she was so nice and then she gave me this letter and I opened it when she left and it started out with Amy, Iím giving you this letter because I know I just met you and I was too shy to say anything. And she just went on and on about how much the show has helped her come to terms with activity that happened in her house and how itís really inspired her.

And I literally almost started crying reading this thing because she was just so sweet. And so those are the ones that really stick out to me. Iíve had creepy stalker people send me crazy emails and stuff and Iíve met a few and thatís whatever. But I like those kinds of fans. People that I know weíve helped in some way.

Adam Berry: Yes.

Suzanne Lanoue: Okay. And you mentioned that ghost hunting has been around since the 1800s and itís the 21st Century and we know so much more about the world frankly than we used to. Why do you think there is still so much interest in the supernatural?

Amy Bruni: Because things keep happening that no one can explain.

Adam Berry: Yes.

Amy Bruni: Itís like regardless of all of the scientific advances weíve made, people are still seeing full bodied apparitions walk by them. People are still having things strangely thrown across the room for no reason.

This stuff is still happening and the amount of reports of this, there is no way that itís not happening. And just because science canít explain it doesnít mean it doesnít exist. And people once they have these experiences, they want to know what the heck is going on. And science isnít answering it for them in all cases. And I think it will eventually. I think weíre not there yet.

Adam Berry: Yes. I also feel that there is always an uncertainty about the life hereafter and people always want to know whatís happening to their loved ones, what they are going to go through when they pass away.

And people are always looking for hope that there is something beyond what this is. So I think people will always look for answers and solutions.

Suzanne Lanoue: And do either of you have any interest in other paranormal or supernatural things besides ghosts?

Amy Bruni: Iím into all of it. I used to produce a paranormal radio show with Jay and Grant actually. And I have a lot of interest in cryptozoology. I love hearing about UFOs.

All that stuff - so I definitely have an interest in a lot of it. And like Tango especially - Tango is obsessed with Coast to Coast AM. He loves UFO stuff. So there is a lot more to us than just ghosts. But I think all of us are into the strange and unusual.

Adam Berry: Right. And like Tango I think - he had us convinced for like a week that he had a chip implanted in his shoulder.

Amy Bruni: He really did.

Adam Berry: He was like I woke up and I just got this thing and I donít know what it is and I donít know how I got it. And I was like youíre crazy and then for a week we thought he was abducted and then he was of course playing a joke.

Amy Bruni: Because he had this shoulder pain and so he was complaining about it. And I asked him how is your shoulder. We came back from a week break and I said how is your shoulder and he was like I went to the doctor, they found a piece of metal in my shoulder. Iím like what? Heís like they canít explain it. Theyíre freaking out. Iím like are you kidding me? You need to call UFO hunters or something.

Adam Berry: Yes. Call somebody.

Suzanne Lanoue: Thatís funny. Well, thank you very much and good luck with the next season too.

Amy Bruni: Thank you.

Adam Berry: Thank you.

Operator: And we do have a follow up question from the line of Jim Iaccino with the Media Boulevard Magazine. Please go ahead.

Jim Iaccino: Hey guys. Howís it going?

Amy Bruni: Good.

Adam Berry: Good.

Jim Iaccino: Good. Iím not sure if any of you have seen one of the Paranormal Activities but I really think that movies like that you guys are responsible for I mean in terms of just taking an ordinary Joe or Jane, taking a video camera and recording things throughout the night and trying to see if there is anything paranormal or strange. So have any of you seen one of those movies because they are really good?

Amy Bruni: I havenít seen them. Adam probably has.

Adam Berry: Yes. Well, I saw the first Paranormal Activity. I havenít seen the second one and what I like about movies like that is itís very Hollywood. It is Hollywood like everything is blown up to the Nth degree.

The stakes are always extremely, extremely high for the fear factor, for the things. I have got to say I donít necessarily think if you were to just ghost hunt that would happen to you or youíd get thrown against the wall and dragged down the stairs. I like the thrill factor. Itís almost like a roller coaster ride that you donít have to get in a roller coaster to experience and you have a good time. And I think for entertainment values itís brilliant.

Jim Iaccino: And I really think that your show, the granddaddy of (our) show or grandmother is responsible for things like that, which now brings me to two related questions about ghost hunting.

Iíve noticed on a lot of these rip off shows and that may be too negative, they provoke the ghosts or they get their anger in an uproar. And it seems like they lose their objectivity, these hunters as they do it. And I just watch it and I figure this isnít the way you scientifically investigate a phenomenon by getting yourself all worked up and emotional about it. Do you have any take on this provocation method thatís really being used in a lot of these shows?

Amy Bruni: Yes. Itís not our style but I think one of the things in our field is that we really donítí know ¨a whole lot about it. Different teams have different styles and we donít fault them for that.

And for us I really go into a location and I have said this a lot where I kind of feel like Iím a ghost counselor or ghost therapist. My goal is to really kind of relay to them that we know theyíre there, weíve encountered other people like them and that we are there to help them if we can. And that the more they try to communicate with us and talk to us the more we will learn.

So even if itís not now or maybe itís years down the line, we can come back and try to help them if they need it and help them understand. And so thatís really how I always try to approach things and I feel like it gets results, it gets - I feel like I would want to hear that if I was in that situation. And so provocation is not something we do.

We do every once in a while like if itís something we know is just very negative, weíll try it out or itís a very extreme method that we wait to do. And I donít ever do it myself but like I know Tango does every once in a while. So weíll do some very mild provoking sometimes. Weíll make fun of the decor. Weíre like...

Adam Berry: Sure. I mean the thing that Amy has taught me the most is she goes in. I consider her like a ghost therapist. Whereas she opens herself up to saying please talk to me.

There are people like you out there, like youíre not the only one. We try to connect with them on an emotional level from their standpoint about what they went through and what theyíre doing. And occasionally Amy will let me say one or two things that are a tiny bit on the provoking side but nothing crazy because like she said, if youíre talking to a child, you donít want to yell at the kid.

The kid is going to run away from you. Heís not going to talk to you, heís not going to communicate with you. Heís afraid of you. There is no reason for them and we donít know if theyíre in a position where theyíre frightened themselves. Theyíre freaked out that these people are talking to them, they donít know where they are and scared. So make it as easy as possible.

Jim Iaccino: Right. The other related question I have is a lot of these ghost teams use all sorts of devices from the ovulus that sort of synthesizes voices out of frequencies. Do each of you have a really cool piece of equipment that either you have used or want to use on a ghost investigation?

Amy Bruni: I would say my favorite thing that itís been out of commission for us for a while because itís getting fixed is our ETC unit. And itís just because it is a laptop computer that has three cameras hooked up to it.

It has a thermal imaging camera, a full spectrum camera and an IR camera plus it measures EMS fluctuations, it records audio, it records temperature. It does everything and I love that. And so we honestly havenít had it for a few months, which is kind of a bummer. But thatís probably one of my favorite things that weíve used just because it covers so much in one spot and itís especially useful for like visual anomalies and plus you have the audio and the temperature.

And I keep hoping for that moment where we have something on camera and then we have a strange spike in the EMS field and we get an EVP at the same time. Thatís the device thatís going to do it, you know? So once we get it back itís going to be awesome.


Amy Bruni: Itís a very expensive piece of equipment so thatís part of it.

Adam Berry: Yes. We should definitely check on that piece of equipment. We need that back ASAP.

Jim Iaccino: And what about you, Adam? Would you agree thatís the piece to go or are you comfortable with something else?

Adam Berry: Honestly I like all kinds of methods. Amy has pretty much hit it right on the nail on the head just because it does so many different things. And it backs up so many if you get three or four things at the same time it just gives you more solid evidence.

And I think that is a wonderful piece of equipment. And I am also enjoying the full spectrum camera that weíve been using a lot. We just got some more of those because theyíre doing so well for us. And I canít wait to go to the next case and keep using it and get that thing fixed and move on.

Jim Iaccino: Cool. Well, thanks for answering all of my questions.

Amy Bruni: Youíre welcome.

Adam Berry: Youíre welcome.

Jim Iaccino: And I will keep watching Ghost Hunters because thatís my favorite out of all of the shows.

Amy Bruni: Thank you so much.

Adam Berry: Thank you.

Jim Iaccino: Bye-bye.

Adam Berry: Bye.

Operator: And we do have a follow up question from the line of Diane Morasco with Please go ahead.

Diane Morasco: Thank you. Hi guys. I have to ask you question. What is your best prank that youíve played on each other? Like Adam, what have you done, Amy, what have you done to Adam? You want to share?

Adam Berry: Amy shared the prank that she did.

Amy Bruni: Yes, I did do the gaff tape thing to you. Iím trying to think what else Iíve done to you recently.

Adam Berry: Remember the time we were investigating in Derby, Connecticut and Steve was downstairs and we knew he was there, he didnít know that we had entered on the top and we scared the bejesus out of him.

Amy Bruni: Yes, that was pretty funny because we were going into another part of this opera house we were investigating and we could hear Steve and Tango downstairs as we were crossing through.

And we walked into them and said hey guys, weíre going to cross through real quick. But once we heard them we kind of camped out by this old staircase and waited for them to get near it. And then as soon as they were at the bottom of it we just jumped out and screamed and Steve like grabbed his heart and just started blaring.

And he always says heís going to get us back. We are constantly trying to scare each other. And it definitely wakes you up once you get that little adrenaline rush. But Iím trying to think if there was a really good one recently. And it wasnít really a prank, we were investigating in Maryland and was it Maryland? I feel like it was Maryland.

But anyways, wherever it was, there were huge bugs and Steve was in the TAPS van and Jay was in the van with them. They were looking at the cameras and this huge June bug flies into the van. And when Steve sees something like that all rational thought leaves him. There is no like itís a bug, Iím going to calmly exit the van.

It is I am going to kill it, I am going to freak out. And so he just starts grabbing at anything, the keyboard, the cameras, something to hit this bug with. And so Jay has to grab him and literally almost put him in a headlock until this bug went away. And we didnít know what was going on and we see this whole van like rocking all over the place.

Like what is going on in there and it was all from some little bug and Steve was freaking out.

Adam Berry: Yes and I think Jay even took a bug and put it on Steveís shoulder without him knowing it in the van.


Adam Berry: Yes and then he looks to his left and sees the bug and then flailing. He turns and heís doing karate and stuff.

Amy Bruni: Yes. Thatís pretty funny.

Diane Morasco: Okay. What do you guys do in your down time?

Amy Bruni: Sleep.

Adam Berry: Sleep a lot.

Amy Bruni: I try to - I go home and I cook a lot because we travel. I live in California so Iím on the road a little bit more than the other guys because weíre usually pretty close to New England.

And Iím gone from home about 300 days a year and so Iím in hotel rooms and so as soon as I get home I just want to do something like cook. I cook, I go out and try to do normal things because you just kind of take all that stuff for granted until youíre on the road all the time. I do a lot of reading, I like to hike and I go wine tasting, all kinds of stuff.

Adam Berry: Yes.

Amy Bruni: Or I try to catch up with friends and travel around on breaks and go visit friends and stuff.

Adam Berry: Yes. Down time, especially when weíre on the road, is few and far between. But when we get it Amy and I love to Yelp like great restaurants nearby or ToDo and we go.

Itís funny because people make fun of Yelp but we use it and if enough people are like you have to eat here, so weíll go and try it and weíll have just a nice dinner or weíll all go out as a group and just have a good time and try to blow of some steam before the next intense case.

Amy Bruni: Yes. Weíre definitely foodies. We lived it up in New Orleans. We gained 5-10 pounds there and we ate so much food.

Adam Berry: Yes. Iím still gaining weight so I havenít gotten the memo to stop eating.

Diane Morasco: Okay. Last question - what would you say is the most important lesson youíve learned being part of the TAPS team or the hardest challenge you guys have faced?

Adam Berry: Thatís easy for me. Be a team player. Iíve learned it from beginning day one GHA if there is some slack to be picked up, pick it up because youíre all working together.

You all have something to do. Youíre not working for yourselves even though youíre there having a good time and doing what you love to do. You have somebody who really needs answers, which is the client. So any time you are on any team doing anything itís pick up the slack if you have to and do the best that you can possibly do. Bring your 150% every single time.

Amy Bruni: Yes. And I think that mine is very similar and itís just kind of realizing that youíre on the road with your family and donít be afraid to ask questions and donít be afraid to say if something is wrong or communication has been a skill that I have definitely learned with the team.

And itís just because it is a different dynamic because you are traveling, living with and working with these people year round. And itís not just the TAPS team. We have 11 crew that come with us too. So there are 17-18 of us at a time and communication is key and I think that has been a huge lesson for all of us. And I think itís part of why we all get along so well.

Adam Berry: Absolutely.

Diane Morasco: Thank you so much Adam and thank you so much Amy again.

Amy Bruni: Youíre welcome.

Adam Berry: Thank you.

Diane Morasco: Youíre welcome.

Operator: And we do have a follow up question from the line of Beth Beacham with the Please go ahead.

Amy Bruni: Thank you.

Adam Berry: Okay. Thank you.

Beth Beacham: Thank you so much for answering the questions. The question is what do you guys say to people who are hard core skeptics who explain the paranormal like ghost activity as being just something like a past energy or even time travelers? Have you guys at any point in your investigation even questioned yourselves that they might be right? If not, how do you convince them that they are ghosts?

Amy Bruni: Honestly like the more I do this the more I donít know what weíre encountering and I (am absolutely open) to those ideas. I mean if someone can prove to me that itís some sort of time travel then thank goodness we have an explanation.

I am open to all theories because when I first started doing this I had a very clear cut view of what I thought it was. I thought it was someone died and they didnít follow the light or whatever and then here they are and theyíre stuck here in limbo. And thatís what I thought it was. But the more I do it, the evidence we collect doesnít always point that direction.

So I think that Iím open to all those ideas. I feel like I really do feel like eventually quantum physics is probably going to explain many of the phenomena that we experience. And thatís not something I can get into because thatís way over my head. But I know people that are theorizing on that a lot and working on it a lot.

Adam Berry: Yes. We honestly until there is absolute, absolute proof of exactly what it is, all options are open. And you know, with skeptics believe it when you see it. When it happens youíll know and you canít always explain it.

Beth Beacham: Okay. Thank you again guys.

Amy Bruni: Of course. Thank you.

Adam Berry: Thank you. Good job Amy.

Amy Bruni: Good job Adam.

Thomas Dima: Thank you guys for joining us today. I want to thank Amy and Adam again and I want to remind you guys that there will be a transcript available tomorrow and that Ghost Hunters is returning on Wednesday, August 24th at 9:00 pm Eastern Time. So thank you again.

Amy Bruni: Thank you.

Adam Berry: Thanks.

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